So who would Pat's like....

[Duggie]

Good draw, they got Bertha Herlin. Payday and winnable.

dont know about that - lets not get ahead of ourselves.

[OneRedArmy]

dont know about that - lets not get ahead of ourselves.Winnable implies that there is a possibility Pats may win the tie.

Ergo, nobody is getting ahead of themselves.

[red bellied]

Heard this morning, that Pats home leg might have to be played in England. Croke Park and the RDS are the only UEFA approved grounds at this stage of the competition and arent available for the dates involved.

[DaveyCakes]

I wouldn't be counting on a massive TV payday. Hertha aren't that big a club in Germany, particularly compared with Schalke, Dortmund, Hamburg, and Stuttgart, who are also in the competition.

They'll only get decent money if they agree to an early kick off.

[amaccann]

Can't they file to have the legs switched ?

[Larry 'da' Wyse]

Ryanair Dublin to Berlin only 60.62 + bags cost thats flying out on wednesday and back on friday

Thats not bad
would it hard to get a ticket for away leg

Doubt it. The ground takes over 80,000 I think and is rarely sold out.

[OneRedArmy]

Heard this morning, that Pats home leg might have to be played in England. Croke Park and the RDS are the only UEFA approved grounds at this stage of the competition and arent available for the dates involved.
Is the RDS approved? It hasn't hosted a European match since Euro licensing came in so I doubt a UEFA delegate has visited it never mind approved it. Usual lazy journo papertalk me things.

See above re the temporary seats issue.

[red bellied]

Approved or not its a bad state of affairs if not one Loi ground cant hold a first round proper game. If Drogheda had qualified this season for the Champons League stages, where would these games been played? Dalymount should of been revamped years ago.

[Dodge]

First leg confirmed away. Flights booked. 220 all in for me and the missus.

Not winnable, we'll make a couple of quid on it, and the fans get a decent trip out of it.

The game will be in Dublin. Not confirmed where though.

[paul_oshea]

could do - at least the headache of both grounds not being available has been seen off

First Leg in Berlin will be played in this unimpressive little ramshackle ground:

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/berlin/berlin_olympiastadion.shtml

who runs out and gets the ball if it is hit too hard?

[twoenz]

Without disappointing Pats fans, they won't be playing at the Olympiastadion. They've been playing their last few European games at Jahn Sport Park, and can't see that changing. My season ticket gets me in for free to the Europe games which is nice

They're a young team, capable of keeping the bigger teams quieter on their good days and looking like a Championship team the next.

Pantelic scored against Ireland for Serbia, and he's their main threat. Other players that you'd know are Arne Friedrich and Jo Simunic.

[paul_oshea]

who runs out and gets the ball if it is hit too hard?

The game will be in Dublin. Not confirmed where though.


Not winnable, we'll make a couple of quid on it, and the fans get a decent trip out of it.

wouldn't be so sure on that(in terms of winnable being away goal perhaps), if pats can get a draw away from home they have a serious chance in the second leg. I think having the first leg away from home makes a huge difference to Irish teams as has been proved in the past. If pats are in a position where they can focus solely on the euro games then who knows.

[Dodge]

Confirmed as RDS on October 2

[Réiteoir]

Heard this morning, that Pats home leg might have to be played in England. Croke Park and the RDS are the only UEFA approved grounds at this stage of the competition and arent available for the dates involved.

That was only if the first leg was at home

Thankfully - this didn't happen and the tie will be at the RDS

[Réiteoir]

Without disappointing Pats fans, they won't be playing at the Olympiastadion. They've been playing their last few European games at Jahn Sport Park, and can't see that changing. My season ticket gets me in for free to the Europe games which is nice

Shame if it isn't in the Olympiastadion - but the Jahn Sportspark looks like a tidy little ground.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/berlin/berlin_jahn.shtml

I'm gonna try and get across for the either leg if I can

[rambler14]

Shame if it isn't in the Olympiastadion - but the Jahn Sportspark looks like a tidy little ground.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/berlin/berlin_jahn.shtml



Morton Stadium, Germany.:D It'll be as if they never left Dublin!

[The Good Son]

Hertha live on Setanta at 4pm this Sunday away to Bayern Munich.

[mypost]

Unbelievable all the people who wanted Pats to get Milan, then bawl at all the Italian's goals go in. :rolleyes:

Decent draw for Pats against a mediocre mid-table German outfit, they stand a good chance of progressing, compared to what they could have got.

[LeixlipRed]

Confirmed as RDS on October 2

What sort of capacity do you reckon?

[TheBoss]

Its a good draw for Hertha, they are playing the 80th/80th team in the co-effs :D

This is a hard game as the majority would have been, they will find it extremely hard to win in Germany, if Berlin win about 3-0 in the 1st leg, Pats have a chance of a win at the RDS.

[elroy]

Decent draw for Pats, well be hard to progress but who knows. Playing away from home in the first leg is crucial, it makes such a difference. If they can get a draw or narrow defeat in the first leg with an away goal they will have a decent chance.

[LeixlipRed]

I'm curious as well if Pats fans think this European run will save McDonnell his job. Pats are likely to finish miles off the top again this season and will European success paper over the cracks in that respect

[Dodge]

I'm curious as well if Pats fans think this European run will save McDonnell his job. Pats are likely to finish miles off the top again this season and will European success paper over the cracks in that respect

what cracks? not sure anyone else would do better. The majority of rubbish signings we've had recently weren't his.

[LeixlipRed]

The massive crack separating you and Bohs ;)

[paul_oshea]

the same size as the crack in your...

[Dodge]

The massive crack separating you and Bohs ;)

We can't compete with their spending...

First leg may now be brougt forward to Tuesday or Wednesday. this was after both teams confirmed the Thursday. german TV money to blame. if its Wednesday I'm OK

[el punter]

The majority of rubbish signings we've had recently weren't his.

Are you saying Kerr was responsible for them?

[Schumi]

If Pats fans have time, I'd recommend going out for a look around the Olympiastadion. They don't have organised tours but you can pay €2 and walk around inside and outside the stadium and various olympic related stuff around it. Well worth a look.

[Dodge]

Are you saying Kerr was responsible for them?

maybe...

[Dodge]

They don't have organised tours but you can pay €2 and walk around inside and outside the stadium and various olympic related stuff around it. Well worth a look.

This thing just gets better and better.

PS I'm quite happy to admit my geekiness

[pateen]

Are you saying Kerr was responsible for them?

Lads get back on the topic re Pats in Europe.

How many do you think would be at the RDS, presuming pats come away with a decent away result. I think over 10000 would be a great crowd

[Dodge]

Its hard to say. Bohs didn't get anywhere near 10,000 for their game v kaiserslauten a few years ago. german teams haven't got that big a cache about them.

[Schumi]

This thing just gets better and better.

PS I'm quite happy to admit my geekinessThey don't have any museums or the like but there's some cool stuff. If you see an aerial photo, the roof doesn't cover the whole way around, the flame was down that end and the have plaques with all the gold medal winners there. There's a load of classical style statues and other olympic buildings around the stadium too. The entrance to the stadium is stunning too with the rings hanging from between two towers. You'll enjoy it.

[Réiteoir]

Hertha Berlin the new FC Vaduz in the mypost Household I see...

[Sheridan]

Its hard to say. Bohs didn't get anywhere near 10,000 for their game v kaiserslauten a few years ago. german teams haven't got that big a cache about them.
Wasn't capacity at Tolka restricted to about 6,000 for that game? Something to do with requirements of German TV?

[Schumi]

Wasn't capacity at Tolka restricted to about 6,000 for that game? Something to do with requirements of German TV?They bought all the tickets for the Riverside iirc so they could set up cameras wherever they wanted.

[Dodge]

Wasn't capacity at Tolka restricted to about 6,000 for that game? Something to do with requirements of German TV?

yeah, that rings a vague bell alright.

Obviously I'm hoping for as big crowd as possible, I'm just not one of these "we'd fill Croker if we played..." merchants

[Jaime]

We can't compete with their spending...


That is truly astounding Dodge

[DaveyCakes]

They don't have any museums or the like but there's some cool stuff. If you see an aerial photo, the roof doesn't cover the whole way around, the flame was down that end and the have plaques with all the gold medal winners there. There's a load of classical style statues and other olympic buildings around the stadium too. The entrance to the stadium is stunning too with the rings hanging from between two towers. You'll enjoy it.

The away fans end is beside the opening at the end beside where the flame was (the far end from the rings), which is a pity as there's a great view from the other end. You can go up the bell tower, which is a few hundred yards away.

All in all, its probably the best away trip the Pats fans could have got.

[mypost]

Hertha Berlin the new FC Vaduz in the mypost Household I see...

Nah, that was Libertas last year, which Drogheda (eventually) saw off. Even Berlin aren't that bad.

[Dodge]

That is truly astounding Dodge

Didn't think you'd be the one to fall for it. I knew I'd get one of you mind...

[Cici900]

There after gettin hertha Berlin!

Hard enough draw

[thischarmingman]

Shame if it isn't in the Olympiastadion - but the Jahn Sportspark looks like a tidy little ground.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/germany/berlin/berlin_jahn.shtml

I'm gonna try and get across for the either leg if I can
Reminds me of the Ullevi Stadium in Gothenburg.

[CuanaD]

Lads get back on the topic re Pats in Europe.

How many do you think would be at the RDS, presuming pats come away with a decent away result. I think over 10000 would be a great crowd
I'd love to see 10-12,000 there

but then the last game only sold out on Thursday morning - & that was only 2900 tickets - so you'd wonder where all the other people will come from (& why they wouldn't come out for the Elfsborg game)



Will it still be €10 a ticket? presumably RDS will cost a fair bit to rent . . .

[Dodge]

BTW Word is that the game in Germany will be in the Olympic Stadium

[CuanaD]

BTW Word is that the game in Germany will be in the Olympic Stadium
Probably find that the Sportpark is also not up to standard for this round.

[rambler14]

I see that Hertha signed Andrei Voronin from Liverpool. Pats are a shoe-in now!;):D

[Dodge]

Away leg likely to be on Tuesday 16th for German TV coverage

[Longfordian]

I see Pats have agreed to compensate fans affected by the switch to the Tuesday. Fair play to them because it would be annoying for fans who booked straight after the draw. I know most clubs couldn't afford to do that but it's a nice gesture.

[finnpark]

Any predictions on scores lads.

Will Pats get a real hammering? :D 4-0 or 5-0 maybe? Its been a long since we have seen a live TV hammering for a LOI side. :D