View Full Version : Best WWF/WWE Feud?
Yes I know it's scripted, but no I don't think that takes away from the athleticism of some of these guys :rolleyes:
Anyway for the WWF fans out there I wanted to know what you consider as your favourite all time feud? I'll throw up a poll and a few videos of some all time classics, but add in whatever you want.
Personally I'd go for Bret vs Austin. I think the way the whole feud was handled, with Bret getting more and more frustrated, leading to the classic WrestleMania 13 match and heel turn was as perfect as it gets in wrestling. The continuing feud up to Austin injuring Bret's knee provided the foundations for the WWF to turn things around against WCW and not go out of buisness in my eyes. I would have gone for Sting vs Hogan had they not had a ridiculous end to their pay off match at Starrcade '97. Really, how Hogan was allowed pass this over as a good ending to the feud is beyond me. Savage vs Warrior is an absolute belter as well
Macho Man vs Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania 5
(complete with nice video package detailing the feud at the start)
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Ric Flair calls out Ricky Steamboat
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Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat at Chi Town Rumble
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Rick Rude vs Ultimate Warrior, cage match at SummerSlam
(all new WWE fans note, Rude's entrance is how to build instant heel heat)
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Contract signing for WM7 between Macho Man and Warrior
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Career Ending Match between Macho Man and Warrior at WM7
(God I miss Gorilla Monsoon at the announce table)
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Bret Hart vs Steve Austin at WM13
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Bret brings back the Hart Foundation
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Hart Foundation vs Team USA in Calgary, Canada
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Sting attacks the nWo
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Sting vs Hogan at Starrcade '97
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Steve Austin and The Rock promo
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The Rock and Austin sing
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Both The Rock's and Austin's last match at WM
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Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesner at WrestleMania
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deecay
03/08/2008, 6:29 PM
'Well let me tell you something Mean Gene'
Stevo Da Gull
03/08/2008, 11:51 PM
I voted Rock-Austin but in all honesty HHH-Austin and HHH-Rock were probably better. Special mention to Rock-Foley, Benoit-Jericho, Shane McMahon-Test, Edge+Christian-Hardys, HHH-Foley and Orton-Undertaker... those were the days:(
Watched a bit of it this weekend though, wasn't bad. It's good to see Edge and Jeff Hardy doing well after years of hard work.
tetsujin1979
04/08/2008, 12:42 AM
The whole Corporation - Ministry angle from 99 got me back interested in wrestling when I was on work experience from college. I was usually hungover on saturday mornings, so it was perfect braindead tv! Had some really messed up stuff in it in retrospect, kidnappings, crucifiction, and the ending of it all with Vince as the higher power, meaning he had ordered the kidnapping of his own daughter just to screw with Stone Cold, was an awful cop out.
Special mention for the Hardys - Edge+Christian - Dudleys feud that made the tag division interesting again. And for getting Lita more airtime!
bellavistaman
04/08/2008, 3:48 AM
Great thread. More please but IMO one of the best was bret vs shwan michaels for the aftermath and the seriousness about it. thats why i voted other
jebus
04/08/2008, 12:02 PM
Great thread. More please but IMO one of the best was bret vs shwan michaels for the aftermath and the seriousness about it. thats why i voted other
See that's the problem with Bret vs Shawn, outside of WM12 and Survivor Series 1997 they refused to fight each other, even at that SS97 can hardly be counted as a proper match. Proper outside the ring feud Bret vs Shawn wins hands down, but in the ring I think the listed ones provided more entertainment
Dodge
04/08/2008, 12:10 PM
Yes I know it's scripted, but no I don't think that takes away from the athleticism of some of these guys :rolleyes:
Well I do, and I've moved it out of sports.
Poor Student
04/08/2008, 12:17 PM
Personally I really enjoyed the Chris Benoit v Chris Jericho feud over the Intercontinental Title about 5 years ago. Some tremendous wrestling and good contrast of styles. Jericho also had the personality to carry Benoit's lack of mic skills.
superfrank
04/08/2008, 3:02 PM
I loved the whole McMahon family feud back in 2000. I think it all came to a head at Wrestlemania, iirc, with Stephanie backing HHH, Vince backing The Rock, Shane backing Bigshow and Linda backing Mick Foley in a four-way title match.
Kane vs. The Undertaker was another favourite of mine.
The Kurt Angle/Brock Lesnar feud was pretty good too.
I voted Rock-Austin but in all honesty HHH-Austin and HHH-Rock were probably better. Special mention to Rock-Foley, Benoit-Jericho, Shane McMahon-Test, Edge+Christian-Hardys, HHH-Foley and Orton-Undertaker... those were the days
The Big Boss Man/Bigshow one you were telling me about the other night was pretty hilarious too.
gilberto_eire
04/08/2008, 4:09 PM
Great thread. More please but IMO one of the best was bret vs shwan michaels for the aftermath and the seriousness about it. thats why i voted other
Not into wrestling since i was small but after seeing this i looked it up came across this..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Screwjob
The Montreal Screwjob was the real life double-crossing of defending WWF Champion Bret Hart by Vince McMahon, the owner of the World Wrestling Federation (WWF), during the main event match of the professional wrestling pay-per-view event Survivor Series held on November 9, 1997 at the Molson Centre in Montreal, Quebec. A secret change of the match's pre-determined finish (known as a "shoot screwjob" in professional wrestling parlance) was devised by McMahon and discussed with Hart's match opponent, Shawn Michaels. The plan was executed when the match referee, Earl Hebner, under orders from McMahon, called for the bell to ring and ended the match as Michaels held Hart in the Sharpshooter submission hold (Hart's signature finishing move), even though Hart had not submitted. Michaels was declared the victor by submission and crowned as the new WWF Champion, even as Hart and the audience demonstrated their outrage.
Video of it here.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSSgYxyApM
Very interesting, while i'm not into wrestling i love reading up on stuff like this. You can see how ****ed of Hart is, so much so he spits at McMahon, even the commentators did'nt know it was going to happen as indicated by a few things they say, never saw a WWF crowd as angry:eek:
Poor Student
04/08/2008, 7:27 PM
The Big Boss Man/Bigshow one you were telling me about the other night was pretty hilarious too.
That was one of the most god awful world title feuds in rasslin' history! It was the first ever WWF World title feud that I'd ever seen not make the main event. It was a mere appetiser to Vince v HHH grudge match that main evented that PPV. The feud did have some "that's so bad it's good" moments like the tasteless on-screen "death" of the Big Show's father by cancer and the Bossman stealing his casket from the funeral.:D All in all though it was a pretty poor pairing for the top belt in the industry and the match was woeful. Big Show's whole title reign very took a back seat and he merely kept the belt warm before HHH took the belt back off him.
Stevo Da Gull
04/08/2008, 8:52 PM
That was one of the most god awful world title feuds in rasslin' history! It was the first ever WWF World title feud that I'd ever seen not make the main event. It was a mere appetiser to Vince v HHH grudge match that main evented that PPV. The feud did have some "that's so bad it's good" moments like the tasteless on-screen "death" of the Big Show's father by cancer and the Bossman stealing his casket from the funeral.:D All in all though it was a pretty poor pairing for the top belt in the industry and the match was woeful. Big Show's whole title reign very took a back seat and he merely kept the belt warm before HHH took the belt back off him.
It was the poem that made that feud IMO :D
skitz3
04/08/2008, 9:24 PM
Austin VS McMahon. I don't know how it wasn't an option so therefore i voted for other.
gilberto_eire
04/08/2008, 9:42 PM
Austin VS McMahon. I don't know how it wasn't an option so therefore i voted for other.
Actually when i was posting here earlier and trying to remember some feuds this one came straight to mind, i kind of got back into wrestling around 1999 when i was 13 until around just after the whole ''WWF Vs ECW/WCW'' there were some great years around then, Austin and McMahon really came across like a genuine feud.
I suppose since mentioning it WWF Vs ECW/WCW was a feud itself!!.
Lionel Ritchie
04/08/2008, 9:54 PM
Well I do, and I've moved it out of sports.
Proper. Ballet dancers and circus trapese acts have tremendous athleticism. They're not sports either. :p
Besides ...ye'd nothing involving Big Daddy or Kendo Nagasaki. :cool:
deecay
05/08/2008, 12:15 AM
Ministry of Darkness against everyone was the best ive ever seen
bellavistaman
05/08/2008, 12:51 AM
See that's the problem with Bret vs Shawn, outside of WM12 and Survivor Series 1997 they refused to fight each other, even at that SS97 can hardly be counted as a proper match. Proper outside the ring feud Bret vs Shawn wins hands down, but in the ring I think the listed ones provided more entertainment
Oh its true!!!
Well I do, and I've moved it out of sports.
This man has too much power.:D
Ministry of Darkness against everyone was the best ive ever seen
Couldnt disagree, happy days not sure if it was the ministry fued but can anybody remember the event where the ministry hung big bossman off the steel cage, frightenign stuff.
deecay
05/08/2008, 11:22 AM
anybody remember the event where the ministry hung big bossman off the steel cage, frightenign stuff.
Ha,cant remember that but It was good when The Rock had his own bull 'crucifix' and put one of the ministy on it
bellavistaman
05/08/2008, 1:02 PM
Here it bud shockin quality though. :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Ebnv0tMFE&feature=related
Couldnt disagree, happy days not sure if it was the ministry fued but can anybody remember the event where the ministry hung big bossman off the steel cage, frightenign stuff.
That wasn't the Ministry, that was the Undertaker doing it on his own after the Hell in a Cell match at WrestleMania something-or-other
Austin VS McMahon. I don't know how it wasn't an option so therefore i voted for other.
Always have had a problem calling it a wrestling feud given there was no proper pay off match (although they did fight each otehr a few times), along the same lines WCW vs nWo was probably the best angle ever in wrestling, involved some great matches like Sting vs Hogan, Goldberg vs Hogan and so on but isn't between two wrestlers.
I also find it weird that no-one has voted for the classic WWF feuds
Morbo
06/08/2008, 11:19 AM
I liked the Bret v Owen Hart, Razor v Michaels, Million Dollar Man vs Jake Roberts was good too as they were both great characters, only watched wrestling regularly from about the late 80's to mid 90's so I missed most of the feuds after that
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 11:43 AM
As individual matches go, razor michaels ladder match was right up there
jebus
06/08/2008, 12:04 PM
As individual matches go, razor michaels ladder match was right up there
True, looking back on WM10 it's hard to pick between Michaels vs Razor and Bret vs Owen as match of the night. I'd go for Bret-Owen, simply because that's my preferred style of wrestling, but I can easily see why someone would plump for the ladder match
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 1:18 PM
BTW isnt vince mcmahon some man, even the way he uses his family in storylines, slapping linda and so on. Very entertainign stuff thrown our way from the mcmahon family over the years.
Poor Student
06/08/2008, 7:57 PM
That wasn't the Ministry, that was the Undertaker doing it on his own after the Hell in a Cell match at WrestleMania something-or-other
I think was the WM XV in 1998 and it was the Ministry. The Brood (Gangrel and a young vampire Edge and Christian) flew down onto the roof to help the Undertaker set up the noose.
tetsujin1979
06/08/2008, 9:22 PM
I think was the WM XV in 1998 and it was the Ministry. The Brood (Gangrel and a young vampire Edge and Christian) flew down onto the roof to help the Undertaker set up the noose.
Wrestlemania XV is correct, but it was 1999: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WrestleMania_XV
Boss Man getting hung here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR-8n3c7VUk
Article about the entrie angle on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Darkness
Soon after the angle ended, the WWE changed broadcasters to UPN, and had to tone down some of the "Attitude". IMO, this lost a lot of the momentum the WWE had been building in the late 90's, but WCW and ECW soon folded, so it didn't really matter
BTW isnt vince mcmahon some man, even the way he uses his family in storylines, slapping linda and so on. Very entertainign stuff thrown our way from the mcmahon family over the years.
Some of it has just been plain odd though. I remember when Steph was Smackdown GM and she was in a feud with Vince and Sable, and she said something about him using her to seal deals with various buisnessmen when she was a teen, and then Vince saying not before he had broke her in though :eek:
And he pushed for Steph and himself to have an incest angle after Steph had Triple H's first kid. When she shot that down he proposed they do one with Steph and Shane so :eek::eek:
Bluebeard
07/08/2008, 9:18 AM
And he pushed for Steph and himself to have an incest angle after Steph had Triple H's first kid. When she shot that down he proposed they do w=one with Steph and Shane so :eek::eek:
Marketing to the South, perhaps?
Marketing to the South, perhaps?
That doesn't make sense though, those kids can't even see straight, and their hands are too big to use a remote control
boovidge
12/08/2008, 1:27 PM
The whole Corporation - Ministry angle from 99 got me back interested in wrestling when I was on work experience from college. I was usually hungover on saturday mornings, so it was perfect braindead tv! Had some really messed up stuff in it in retrospect, kidnappings, crucifiction, and the ending of it all with Vince as the higher power, meaning he had ordered the kidnapping of his own daughter just to screw with Stone Cold, was an awful cop out.
Special mention for the Hardys - Edge+Christian - Dudleys feud that made the tag division interesting again. And for getting Lita more airtime!
give me terri over lita anyday.
Undertaker vs Kane when Kane was still good. Especially as the tombstone is the best move ever :)
I keep trying to get back into it but the characters are so lame these days.
tetsujin1979
12/08/2008, 2:13 PM
give me terri over lita anyday.Terri? Are you nuts? 4 foot nothing, cigar smoking, 20% silicone tanorexic over punk tattooed goddess?
Sunny, in her prime, maybe, but not Terri!
boovidge
12/08/2008, 2:39 PM
It's precisely her alternative rock, pre emo image that annoys me. That and her masculine jaw.
Chyna might even be a preference over her...well..maybe not.:D
If you're going to go for a generic blonde like Sunny at least pick Sable! :p
bellavistaman
12/08/2008, 6:05 PM
Oh lita no,1 melina no.2 for me, love lita.
Stevo Da Gull
12/08/2008, 7:43 PM
For me it's Lita at no.1, in her physical prime (pre vertebrae cracks in 2002) she was ...:eek: (that's supposed to mean jaw-dropping). Real life personality also counts.
After Lita I'd probably pick Trish. I didn't really like how clearly you could see Terri's ribs, and she sometimes looked a bit (ridiculously) eh.. top-heavy.
But it's all down to what attracts the individual I suppose.
How hasn't the obvious choice of Stacy Keibler been picked??
Stevo Da Gull
12/08/2008, 7:56 PM
Any thought's on best womens feud? I could open a new thread for that if necessary :confused: The one that pops into my mind is Ivory against Moolah :D but that probably shouldn't be considered. Mickie James against Trish Stratus was also memorable. Going back further there are plenty of feuds involving Sable, Sunny, Luna etc
How hasn't the obvious choice of Stacy Keibler been picked??
Aye she's a stunner alright.
superfrank
12/08/2008, 8:01 PM
Trish is definitely the fittest.
No-one comes close.
tetsujin1979
12/08/2008, 11:45 PM
How hasn't the obvious choice of Stacy Keibler been picked??Best. Legs. Ever.
All you pesky kids are prob too young to remember the famous Hogan v Andre the Giant saga in the 1980's - classic stuff
Surely the best feud.
The other one I really liked was Demolition v Powers of Pain - especially when the mercurial Mr Fuji switched sides from Dem to PoP half way through. I was a strict demolition man - PoP wore too much flashy stuff for my liking
We should also have a pool on the hottest wrestling skirt
jebus
13/08/2008, 12:10 PM
The other one I really liked was Demolition v Powers of Pain - especially when the mercurial Mr Fuji switched sides from Dem to PoP half way through. I was a strict demolition man - PoP wore too much flashy stuff for my liking
Agree totally with all of this, loved Demolition and the Hart Foundation back in the day, their feud was quality as well now that I think of it. Anyone remember the Tito Santana/Rick Martel feud after Lightning Strike broke up? As good as HBK vs Jannetty after the Rockers split on the barber shop. We'll need a NSFW (not suitable for work)in the thread title if people want to nominate their diva of choice by adding a picture and we can decide amongst ourselves who was the fittest. I don't think the Dodge's of this world could handle their being 2 wrestling threads :D
Bluebeard
13/08/2008, 1:58 PM
Agree totally with all of this, loved Demolition and the Hart Foundation back in the day, their feud was quality as well now that I think of it. Anyone remember the Tito Santana/Rick Martel feud after Lightning Strike broke up? As good as HBK vs Jannetty after the Rockers split on the barber shop. We'll need a NSFW (not suitable for work)in the thread title if people want to nominate their diva of choice by adding a picture and we can decide amongst ourselves who was the fittest. I don't think the Dodge's of this world could handle their being 2 wrestling threads :D
Naughty Sexy Federation Wrestlers?
rambler14
17/08/2008, 3:45 PM
What about Torrie Wilson???............absolutely savage!
Neish
19/08/2008, 10:01 AM
Used to watch WWF wrestling as lot in late eighties to mid nineties, and have to mention the original diva Sunny
http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en&q=WWF+SUNNY++PICS&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title
eamo1
19/08/2008, 10:48 PM
That whole incident from survivor series is in a documentary called "Beyond The Mat",its an excellent doc.Bret punched vince but said "HE RAN INTO MY FIST":D.
Best Fued for me was The Hart Foundation vs Demolition and The Rockers back in the classic days.I voted for Rock Austin as best Fued but only coz both were incredible showmen but they were brutal wrestlers,Austin epescially.
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