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ramblers
04/08/2008, 8:08 PM
The highlights on MNS were interesting. Bilko gave away the first goal, Murray the second and the centre backs the third.
School boy errors for all of them.
ramsfan
04/08/2008, 10:19 PM
poor enough alright:(
rambler14
04/08/2008, 11:26 PM
poor enough alright:(
Told ya:cool::D
ramsfan
05/08/2008, 3:44 PM
just watched it again how the hell was bilko beaten at his near post for bohs first and god alone knows what murraythought he was doing when he gave away the penalty??????????
rambler14
05/08/2008, 3:52 PM
god alone knows what murraythought he was doing when he gave away the penalty??????????
Thought he was playing with Pirates maybe????:rolleyes: or maybe he was trying to save Bilko the embarrassment of being beaten at his near post again????:rolleyes:
Rambler20
05/08/2008, 5:12 PM
[quote=bellavistaman;994296]I would class a manager who won the first division on the lowest budget in the league as being a manager who can manage.
Have to agree with Bella , be realistic athlone have a bigger budget this season then we do. The next few weeks will tell alot and then ye can all jump ship again when hendo keeps us up
Read some of the other Clubs promotional ideas here (http://onefootballforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=63)
****ing beats me why we can't be organised like this when it comes to promoting the club. No wonder we fall behind. :mad:
ramsfan
05/08/2008, 7:44 PM
i am not sayin this to stir but do we still have a cpo is marco still with us just havent seen him at games for a while or he hasnt been heard of for a while:ball:
i am not sayin this to stir but
Having to 'Tippy-Toe' around as well in case of upsetting people is another annoying ****ing thing and I ain't doing it any longer. I think Marco may be on holidays because I'm not getting any response from him either, but regardless of that, other clubs are still miles ahead of us in terms of their promoting tactics.
ramsfan
05/08/2008, 8:26 PM
well be honest we have had this argument before someone is employed to do promotions so it is up to them to bring forward ideas and carry them out
i am not sayin this to stir but do we still have a cpo is marco still with us just havent seen him at games for a while or he hasnt been heard of for a while:ball:
Just because you haven't seen me doesn't mean that I wasn't at the matches... get the facts right first plz.
Read some of the other Clubs promotional ideas here (http://onefootballforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=63)
****ing beats me why we can't be organised like this when it comes to promoting the club. No wonder we fall behind. :mad:
Before you go spouting off, go ask the clubs what budget they were given to do promotions..., because I have no ****ing budget, I use a shop that's for sale, 5 road signs sponsored and 4 that weren't paid by the club, match posters are done by myself, & 1 person to put them out when he turns up. We have a supporters club which is made up of supporters club members, who number about 20 at most & they are tied up with what they do. And as you well know Luka when it comes to being organised it's allways very handy to have one or two people helping out with something that you are trying to do...
It ****ing beats me too Luka when someone like you that is involved with the club, go on this forum spouting ****, and others speak about Hendo as if the guy has done **** all, most of you have been to all the games and you have seen the amount of ****e luck the team has had, yes some need to put there hand up & admit there not up to the Premier Division, but I wonder how many Bohs, Pats or City players must first put in a days work & then go training, using up holidays etc so they can travel to away games. As for the Sunderland game those on the commitee gave up there free time( & some more) to get that day sorted, and they done a bloody good job, It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and be judgemental. Bet ya if I asked for volenteers to do stewarding on Sat night how many would turn up?? The very same few all the time.
So Luka maybe you might like the CPO role, work on your todd, with no money to do anything & see how far you will go;)
ramsfan
05/08/2008, 10:04 PM
sorry now what aload of bull, you get paid ,easy to slag people off as far as i know luka does site for free, and it is an easy target to pick on volunteers who give up free time.
ramsfan
05/08/2008, 10:06 PM
Just because you haven't seen me doesn't mean that I wasn't at the matches... get the facts right first plz.
never said you werent at matches just sayin we hadnt heard much from you lately thats all .
Marco
05/08/2008, 10:27 PM
sorry now what aload of bull, you get paid ,easy to slag people off as far as i know luka does site for free, and it is an easy target to pick on volunteers who give up free time.
Luka has been doing and excellant job with the site, PA, and other stuff, thats not the point, the point he made was about promotion & why we cant do what everyone else does, answer is simple really, people don't give a **** about the club. Where are the thousand or so fans who went to Athlone, or have you ever seen local people pass the ground on match night & ask how the game is going but not bother to step inside and see for themselves? There is only so much you can do on the cheap/free. Derry are in town this w/end & where will everyone be .... in the pubs.
Marco
05/08/2008, 10:29 PM
i am not sayin this to stir but do we still have a cpo is marco still with us just havent seen him at games for a while or he hasnt been heard of for a while:ball:
Fair enough ... :rolleyes:
rambler14
05/08/2008, 10:59 PM
Derry are in town this w/end & where will everyone be .... in the pubs.
and is there some initiative being undertaken to draw the people out of the pubs????????..................NO!, typical Ramblers!:(
This is the first time in years that Rams have had a home game the weekend of the regatta and luckily in my opinion we are playing against the team with the best travelling support in the league and they will come down here, they will spend money and add an extra atmosphere to the regatta and to the match. Not to mention the fact that the Derry team will probably stay over night too.
Once again this club miss out on a potential money spinner and then people wonder why were broke and begging members for €2000!
All we needed was one hook that could drag the people up from town for 90 mins but what do we do instead???.................we sleep!
The match is on Saturday, that means there's 4 days to think of something that could drag in an extra punter or two!
Any ideas???- I was thinking of something along the lines of a match ticket + 2 free pints?
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 12:05 AM
Luka vs Marco, in a ring, 3 rounds, all funds raised go to the club, now there is a fundraising idea!!!!!
Here we go. Tippy -Toeing around again. My intention wasn't to have a go at anyone particular person and I don't have time to comment on these issues now as I'm running out the door and have to be somewhere at 9. Get a life Marco FFS. The whole World is not against you and you should try to read between the lines before having a dig at me. Less dramatics I say. Less dramatics.
chimpster
06/08/2008, 7:11 AM
Are ye all mad?? Why the **** are ye all havin a pop at each other?? Marco and Luka both do heaps towards the club and deserve nothin but praise for it. Marco is given a budget and has to work within it - it doesn't matter how many good ideas he has if doesn't have the funds to implement them. And Luka does his bit for nothin.
If anyone has a problem with promoting the club, get down there and get to work on it yerselves, or put up the cash to let Marco get on with it. Don't be coming on here havin a dig. :mad:
Our problems are apathy and image. The average Joe in town will sit on a bar stool and talk/bitch about Ramblers all night but will only show up once a season at most. Meanwhile, there are a few lads tryin to keep the ship afloat while the name of the club is dragged into the dirt by childish politics and bitchin caused by a small minority who can't face the fact that they're not in charge any more. The Supporters Club barely even exists! (I know the work they do is very valuable but it ain't a proper Supporters Club, so please change the name)
I can't give answers to the problems, some of them relate to personal/family vendettas that go back decades. Maybe the club needs a whole new start to modernise it - new constitution, shareholders, Board of Directors (not a committee!!), new image, full-time General Manager, god forbid even a new name!! Anything to rid us of the bull*** that's held us back so long...
drinkfeckarse
06/08/2008, 7:50 AM
Are ye all mad?? Why the **** are ye all havin a pop at each other?? Marco and Luka both do heaps towards the club and deserve nothin but praise for it. Marco is given a budget and has to work within it - it doesn't matter how many good ideas he has if doesn't have the funds to implement them. And Luka does his bit for nothin.
Aye no point arguing with each other lads as I don't think there's a right and wrong in this. Can see both your points but as has been said, there's only so much Marco can do within his budget and without man power. Luka made a decent point about utilising the website more, surely that can be taken on board though...
Here's an idea right. Because the Club CPO's budget is so small to operate as effeciantly as other clubs them why not organise some sort of fundraiser(s) to generate cash towards helping the CPO operate more efficiantly. It can't be that hard to organise something, I mean we already have a large enough venue for it. I'd be willing to give my time to help organise something.
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 1:02 PM
i think there are bigger issues we need to prioritise at the moment.
i think there are bigger issues we need to prioritise at the moment.
It really depends on which way you look at it Bella. If the CPO has funds to perform more efficiantly then naturally he would be in more of a position to attempt to being in more people to games. I'm not in the know when it comes to the Club's financial matters because quite frankly it's none of my concern. I was informed we were all getting a letter about the €2000 thing. I'm still waiting, but the point I'm making here, or trying to make, whichever way you look at it is, the CPO needs funds. Should a cut of the Sunderland finances be afoarded him? I don't see why not or cut the CPO's job altogether and put that wage to use in other areas, but who promotes the Club then? I really don't see anyone doing his job for free do you?
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 1:22 PM
God no, i just feel myself at this moment in time there is more important things we need to spend money on.
Getting the house in order being no.1 IMO.
Getting the house in order being no.1 IMO.
Agree 100% with you. The house needs to be put in order from the top right down. People need to realise what their actual role is at the club by my saying 'do it' I mean do it correctly and stick to it. If people can't perform then goodbye. That's my attitude anyway.
How many of you on here knew before I drew attention to this that Marco has naff all of a budget to work with? Not many I bet. Issue like these need to be brought out, dealt with correctly and closed out in a proper manner that enables all to move forward with the best intentions of the club at heart. It's all very well for us to natter about it here but does anyone actually take any notice of the good things and ideas that are spoken about here or is it the usual case of, 'Nah. I'm not going with that 'cause I didn't think of it' attitude.
ramsfan
06/08/2008, 2:01 PM
It really depends on which way you look at it Bella. If the CPO has funds to perform more efficiantly then naturally he would be in more of a position to attempt to being in more people to games. I'm not in the know when it comes to the Club's financial matters because quite frankly it's none of my concern. I was informed we were all getting a letter about the €2000 thing. I'm still waiting, but the point I'm making here, or trying to make, whichever way you look at it is, the CPO needs funds. Should a cut of the Sunderland finances be afoarded him? I don't see why not or cut the CPO's job altogether and put that wage to use in other areas, but who promotes the Club then? I really don't see anyone doing his job for free do you?
it comes back to forward thinking, bar manager, cpo and press officer should be one person and one wage , its not man u surely one man/woman could cope with work load, one wage instead of 2/3 and immediately then you remove the "thats not my area " crap, one man one voice and one person who can be held accountable
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 2:09 PM
Agree 100% with you. The house needs to be put in order from the top right down. People need to realise what their actual role is at the club by my saying 'do it' I mean do it correctly and stick to it. If people can't perform then goodbye. That's my attitude anyway.
How many of you on here knew before I drew attention to this that Marco has naff all of a budget to work with? Not many I bet. Issue like these need to be brought out, dealt with correctly and closed out in a proper manner that enables all to move forward with the best intentions of the club at heart. It's all very well for us to natter about it here but does anyone actually take any notice of the good things and ideas that are spoken about here or is it the usual case of, 'Nah. I'm not going with that 'cause I didn't think of it' attitude.
I think we all knew because he has said it here on numerous occasions.
I think the attitude you speak of is slowly fading away too, people are coming together to work hard and raise cash for the club.
But back to what we we discussing i just feel, and its only my opinion that there are more important things at the moment that we need to put money into than the CPO side of it.
6yardpunisha
06/08/2008, 2:09 PM
it comes back to forward thinking, bar manager, cpo and press officer should be one person and one wage , its not man u surely one man/woman could cope with work load, one wage instead of 2/3 and immediately then you remove the "thats not my area " crap, one man one voice and one person who can be held accountable
total nonsense RF, how in gods name could one person do those three jobs, maybe you could link the cpo with the press job but then putting in the bar manager is not feasible due to the nature of that kind of work. If you did mix the 3 jobs you would have someone working 90 hours a week at least, press officer not paid by the way and she is doing a damn fine job IMO
bellavistaman
06/08/2008, 2:14 PM
press officer not paid by the way and she is doing a damn fine job IMO
Oh that she is, totally voluntary, prob hasnt received one pat on the back, gets no credit at EGM/AGMs and so what. Were lucky she not in it for the praise or spotlight or she'd be well gone. Having seen her at work i'd have nothing but praise for her. BTW before ye start i know nobody was questioning her, just when i seen the role mentioned thought she deserved a bit of praise.:)
Oh that she is, totally voluntary, prob hasnt received one pat on the back, gets no credit at EGM/AGMs and so what. Were lucky she not in it for the praise or spotlight or she'd be well gone. Having seen her at work i'd have nothing but praise for her. BTW before ye start i know nobody was questioning her, just when i seen the role mentioned thought she deserved a bit of praise.:)
Just to add to Bella's comment about the Press Officer. She does a great job (Friendship aside) and no she doesn't get paid for it as far as I know. They do a good job on the Programme too with the available resources but if only we were able to sell more programmes.
it comes back to forward thinking, bar manager, cpo and press officer should be one person and one wage
I'm surprised at a statement like that from you RF. It wouldn't be possible to do that. The three positions are totally different and not only that, the one person doing it would have to work 24/7 to achieve results. Someone mentioned earlier about a General Manager and you know what, as we move further and further toward the end of the season, I'm beginning to think that that may be one way to go. At least then there would be something called accountability at the end of it all.
ramsfan
06/08/2008, 3:03 PM
what is general manager role and duties so?
6yardpunisha
06/08/2008, 3:06 PM
I'm surprised at a statement like that from you RF. It wouldn't be possible to do that. The three positions are totally different and not only that, the one person doing it would have to work 24/7 to achieve results. Someone mentioned earlier about a General Manager and you know what, as we move further and further toward the end of the season, I'm beginning to think that that may be one way to go. At least then there would be something called accountability at the end of it all.[/quote]
Hit the nail on the head, problem up in the club is that the only people who seem to be accountable for the job they do are the players and management no one else is IMO
ramsfan
06/08/2008, 3:07 PM
i think there are bigger issues we need to prioritise at the moment.
is there goin to be a breakdown of sunderland takings sent to members, think something along those lines was muted by one of the committee members
6yardpunisha
06/08/2008, 4:24 PM
what is general manager role and duties so?
generally they manage:d
ramsfan
06/08/2008, 5:59 PM
generally they manage:d
absolutely brilliant:rolleyes::rolleyes:
ramblers
06/08/2008, 8:41 PM
Its good to know Luka doesnt get paid as I can never hear what he says:D
Lads take it easy on each other you are all on the same side and we all have different opinions but people should be able to give those views without being attacked!!
it comes back to forward thinking, bar manager, cpo and press officer should be one person and one wage , its not man u surely one man/woman could cope with work load, one wage instead of 2/3 and immediately then you remove the "thats not my area " crap, one man one voice and one person who can be held accountable
some people on here dont understand how cpo's work is structured
cpo's wages are paid/supported by the fai to do cpo jobs this is only given to primier clubs dont think 1st div clubs get this funding so if u go down so does the funding for a cpo
don ramo
06/08/2008, 10:01 PM
some people on here dont understand how cpo's work is structured
cpo's wages are paid/supported by the fai to do cpo jobs this is only given to primier clubs dont think 1st div clubs get this funding so if u go down so does the funding for a cpo
actually you can hire one if you want, the FAI will help you hire one, but you have to pay there full wage,
or if you have a premier division licence the FAI will pay half the CPOs wage
ramsfan
06/08/2008, 10:10 PM
some people on here dont understand how cpo's work is structured
cpo's wages are paid/supported by the fai to do cpo jobs this is only given to primier clubs dont think 1st div clubs get this funding so if u go down so does the funding for a cpo
half from fai and half from rams, i never said get rid of him what i said was fai are givin x amount a year for cpo why not join cpo and general manager job together and get fai to pay half the wages
don ramo
06/08/2008, 10:16 PM
half from fai and half from rams, i never said get rid of him what i said was fai are givin x amount a year for cpo why not join cpo and general manager job together and get fai to pay half the wages
now thats forward thinking RF,
have to join someone up, really, we do need accountablity, general manager of board of directors,
Its good to know Luka doesnt get paid as I can never hear what he says
Let me guess. You're a NorthBanker. I can't be blamed for that one 'cause there's no speakers on that side of the ground so if you want to hear my beautiful voice then you need to be in one of the stands, but even then you have the odd whinger in there saying turn it down.
ramsfan
07/08/2008, 12:54 PM
Let me guess. You're a NorthBanker. I can't be blamed for that one 'cause there's no speakers on that side of the ground so if you want to hear my beautiful voice then you need to be in one of the stands, but even then you have the odd whinger in there saying turn it down.
no one said being the larry gogan of st colmans park was going to be easy:D:D
next thing we now he will want a bowl of m and m s with all the red ones taken out , 2 bottles of water from a stream high in the alps and a personal assistant to handle the press
no one being the larry gogan of st colmans park was goig to be easy:D:D
next thing we now he will want a bowl of m and m s with all the red ones taken out , 2 bottles of water from a stream high in the alps and a personal assistant to handle the press
I doubt I'll be available for Saturday Night's game so my PA might have to go it alone.
ramsfan
07/08/2008, 1:45 PM
knowing our luck , we all expect a top bird and it will probably turn out to be r14 :eek::eek::D
bellavistaman
07/08/2008, 2:30 PM
If we win saturday your gone luka.. Gone.. Its superstition time now.
Prob safe enough though.. :D:D
Roll on derry, i smelll a win..
Come on the rams
drinkfeckarse
07/08/2008, 2:37 PM
I doubt I'll be available for Saturday Night's game so my PA might have to go it alone.
Fair weather fan :D:D
Fair weather fan :D:D
Rain, Hail, Snow or Storm I'd be there. Weather doesn't bother me at all at all..........
..........cause I'm indoors :D
...........
ramsfan
07/08/2008, 3:10 PM
Rain, Hail, Snow or Storm I'd be there. Weather doesn't bother me at all at all..........
..........cause I'm indoors :D
...........
in the penthouse portacabin
It'll be very interesting to see how the below pans out.
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