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dahamsta
25/08/2003, 11:08 AM
Ok, I'm gonna try and organise a Slashdot-style interview, which basically involves us arranging an interview, telling you who we'll be interviewing and asking you to submit questions, us filtering the questions down the to best ten or so, and handing them off to the interviewee for answering.

I was going to just ring up the FAI and organise one with Fran Rooney but I thought you guys might like to pick the person too. So make some suggestions and we'll see what we can do. Let's go national this time though, don't mind all those club-level fairies.

adam

James
25/08/2003, 11:20 AM
fran rooney perfect choice imo
excellent idea adam..

go for it
:ball:

wws
25/08/2003, 11:22 AM
Brian Kerr
Ollie Byrne
Damien Richardson (the John Giles of Eircom League analysis)


would all be much more interesting interviewees than Rooney

Dodge
25/08/2003, 11:37 AM
Rooney is a good one (he mightn't be as entertaining as Rico but his answers will matter more..)

Cityace
25/08/2003, 11:41 AM
Definatley Kerr.
Giles.
Dunphy.
Keane.
Duff.

Don Givens, He'll have lots to say about who he thinks are the up-coming stars in the EL.

yur man
25/08/2003, 11:43 AM
rooney for me

i wonder does he still have a season ticket for celtic ;)

max power
25/08/2003, 11:47 AM
interview noel king and ask him where odes he get those lovely ties !!!

wws
25/08/2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Dodge
Rooney is a good one (he mightn't be as entertaining as Rico but his answers will matter more..)


well it depends what you're looking for outta the interview
I'd prefer someone like Kerr, Rico et al quizzed in depth about football, clubs and players here, future trends, the 10 team league etc

to be honest Rooney seems like the one to go for but CEO's generally just waffle and spin an official line that you can get from their website if ure that fascinated - sure he might come up with new initiatives in his job but he aint gonna be talkin about them first on here so I doubt he'd have anything interesting to say

Dodge
25/08/2003, 12:24 PM
Yeah but he hasn't been asked specifically about this league and I'd like to know if he has any plans for it. To be fair to him, he seems very open and forthright and I'm sure he could handle anything.

BTW I'd stick to matters regarding the league because the international scene gets saturation coverage as it is

dahamsta
25/08/2003, 1:51 PM
Anyone got a direct dial number for the FAI press officer? I tried going through their switch but it seems to be borked. Maybe they read this and turned it off. :)

adam

dahamsta
25/08/2003, 2:07 PM
Got it, thanks.

pete
25/08/2003, 2:11 PM
Yeah go for Rooney - i'm sure we can think of a few intelligent questions for him amoung us...

dahamsta
25/08/2003, 2:31 PM
Andy fobbed me off until tomorrow because he's busy with the league cup final, which is fair enough I guess. I'll report back tomorrow after I've talked to him. If we can't get Rooney we'll get someone else, it shouldn't be that hard to corner a current or former national player and there's plenty of meeja whores like Dolan* out there. If it works out we'll try a few more.

By the way, if we do get Rooney I'm reserving two questions, one each for Joe and me. Rules is rules, 'specially when I write 'em. :)

Thanks for the feedback.

adam

*I mean this in a nice way Pat!

A face
25/08/2003, 5:21 PM
Originally posted by Conor74
Chaka Khan. Dammit she seems so darn interesting.

Nah .... i i i i t would ta ta ta take too o o da da damn looong to to interview her like !! :)

tiktok
25/08/2003, 7:34 PM
Fran Rooney could be interesting alright.

Brian Kerr would be my pick though.

dahamsta
26/08/2003, 6:16 PM
Oops, forgot. He was prolly busy today too anyway, I'll drop him a line tomorrow.

adam

Estar
26/08/2003, 7:05 PM
I'd go for Fran "Mikey" Rooney as well. (I tell you I'm not a sheep):D

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 1:32 PM
Ok, I got through today but typically for the Eurocratic nightmare that is the FAI I was asked to talk to someone else, and was only able to get through to their voicemail. The first person told me, however, that I'd probably have to go through Conroy O'Rourke, the FAI's PR firm, and I'd be worried that we'd end up having our questions answered by them, which is just a waste of time in my view.

This might seem a little petty, but let's be honest we live in a small country, there can't be that many people wanting to interview Rooney. You pick up the phone, you tell him someone wants to do an interview, he says ok and you give us his email address. If I wanted PR-firm type answers, I'd write them myself. In fact maybe I'll do just that...

adam

wws
27/08/2003, 2:39 PM
<pats himself on the back for knowing rooney was not a good choice>



<im a smug barsteward!>

Ref
27/08/2003, 3:25 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
This might seem a little petty, but let's be honest we live in a small country, there can't be that many people wanting to interview Rooney. You pick up the phone, you tell him someone wants to do an interview, he says ok and you give us his email address. adam

just email him yourself.

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 3:27 PM
Originally posted by Ref
just email him yourself. I don't have his email address. I presume he isn't so stupid as to allow them to give him fran.rooney@fai.ie? Screw it, I'll give it a go.

adam

Ref
27/08/2003, 3:29 PM
check PM.

:cool:

btw, i hope to interview him for my site too. one of these days.

pete
27/08/2003, 3:32 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
I don't have his email address. I presume he isn't so stupid as to allow them to give him fran.rooney@fai.ie? Screw it, I'll give it a go.

adam

I'd almost put money down that it is. Dooney had similarly structured mail addy as has Brian Kerr...

wws
27/08/2003, 3:34 PM
the only thing is he hasnt got a contract with them yet?
technically he doesnt work there!

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 3:36 PM
So they spend millions on flashy PR firms to protect them from the horrible media and then give everyone an email address a banned Ramblers poster could guess? I dunno who's worse, them for doing it or him for letting them.

Hang on while I put on my shiny face. Hi Fran, I'm Troy McClure! You might remember me from such... :)

adam

James
27/08/2003, 3:40 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
Hang on while I put on my shiny face. Hi Fran, I'm Troy McClure! You might ..

well he's definately not going to give you an interview if he thinks you're that lang@r

:D

i reckon it is.. fran.rooney@fai.ie also..think from memory thats how all the fai heads have their email addys, and i dont see why he wont give an interview

imo keep it focused on the eircom league.. enough stuff on the national team already imo

pete
27/08/2003, 3:50 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
So they spend millions on flashy PR firms to protect them from the horrible media and then give everyone an email address a banned Ramblers poster could guess? I dunno who's worse, them for doing it or him for letting them.

I don't whats wrong with the FAI using that naming structure. Thats standard for practice for most businesses. Email is from communication afterall isn't it? I'm sure Bill Gates has an address like Bill@microsoft.com, bill.gates@microsoft.com or such...

Sure Bertie Ahern has an email addy kn0own to the punters but he just has an office on minions yo keep him from reading the plebs rants.

:confused:

Schumi
27/08/2003, 3:59 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
So they spend millions on flashy PR firms to protect them from the horrible media and then give everyone an email address a banned Ramblers poster could guess? I dunno who's worse, them for doing it or him for letting them. Still doesn't mean he'll read or reply to it!

wws
27/08/2003, 3:59 PM
whatever happened his porn site or did the bertiemeister leave the 'industry'?

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 4:03 PM
Pete, in a wonderful world where pixies roam the land and pizzas and beer deliver themselves unordered, it's a wonderful scheme, but when you're hiding behind a couple of PR firms because your business is in a bit of a mess, it's just silly.

Bill Gates' address is billg@microsoft.com, but really, what are the odds that that's the email address he really uses? I hope it's not anyway, because my server is forwarding Sobig.F to that address at a rate of about ten a minute.

Of course it could be that they implemented it to improve and update the business, but do you believe that? Don't get me wrong, I want to see the FAI improved and streamlined. That's what I'll be asking about if I get the chance. :)

Anyway, email sent.


From: adam beecher [mailto:adam@beecher.net]
Sent: 27 August 2003 16:53
To: fran.rooney@fai.ie
Subject: Foot.ie


Hi Fran,

I'm Adam Beecher, the operator of Foot.ie. Apologies for emailing you out of
the blue, but I can see weaving my way through your PR team taking donkeys
and I don't have the patience. I just have a simple request: Will you agree
to a Slashdot-style email interview for publication on Foot.ie?

I'd be surprised if you didn't know what that was, but just in case: You
agree to the interview, we get Foot.ie posters to ask questions, we pick ten
or so of the best and we email them to you, you answer them and send them
back, we publish the result on the site.

Nice and easy, shouldn't take you more'n a half hour or so, maybe an hour if
you actually think about what you're writing. Which we'd prefer. :)

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Cheers,
adam

__________________________________
When cryptography is outlawed,
bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

James
27/08/2003, 4:10 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
but I can see weaving my way through your PR team taking donkeys
and I don't have the patience. I just have a simple request: Will you agree
to a Slashdot-style email interview for publication on Foot.ie?



jeeze the font so small i read that as talking to donkeys :D

adam and others, i notice that ppl who use the net alot refer to url's without the http or www as you have done here adam with foot.ie ( also when referred to in the cork city matchday mag as they often do .. its also just foot.ie) now i and everyone here knows what foot.ie is.. surely it might be an idea for the not so net savey (sp) to include the more familiar-website indicating universal www so that ppl know exactly its a website thats being referred to

thoughts

pete
27/08/2003, 4:19 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
Pete, in a wonderful world where pixies roam the land and pizzas and beer deliver themselves unordered, it's a wonderful scheme, but when you're hiding behind a couple of PR firms because your business is in a bit of a mess, it's just silly.


Alrighty, me not paying attention to the PR firm angle.


Originally posted by Vetinari
...but I can see weaving my way through your PR team taking donkeys...shouldn't take you more'n a half hour or so, maybe an hour if you actually think about what you're writing. Which we'd prefer...Looking forward to hearing from you.


LMAO

:D

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 4:23 PM
jeeze the font so small i read that as talking to donkeys

There's something seriously wrong on that rig of yours James! :)

adam and others, i notice that ppl who use the net alot refer to url's without the http or www as you have done here adam with foot.ie ( also when referred to in the cork city matchday mag as they often do .. its also just foot.ie)

It should have a capital 'F'!

now i and everyone here knows what foot.ie is.. surely it might be an idea for the not so net savey (sp) to include the more familiar-website indicating universal www so that ppl know exactly its a website thats being referred to

Fran Rooney is a former CEO of Baltimore, a world-renowned crypto firm based in Dublin. If he doesn't know what Foot.ie means, I don't think I want to interview him. ;)

adam

wws
27/08/2003, 4:24 PM
cant believe tah beecher bloke sends his own emails - dont you have a PR firm for that sort of lark?

James
27/08/2003, 4:26 PM
well i know who fran rooney was and is.
the point i was trying to make was moreso for the corkcity matchday mag reference and in general. it was only reading your good self mention Foot.ie in the fran rooney email that reminded me of it.

wws
27/08/2003, 4:28 PM
lame comeback james, lame!

pete
27/08/2003, 4:36 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
Fran Rooney is a former CEO of Baltimore, a world-renowned crypto firm based in Dublin.

Baltimore well known for their massive PR & marketing departments so maybe Fran took a few of them with him to Merrion Sq. Only problem is the FAI don't have any shares to hype.

;)

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 4:46 PM
Originally posted by wws
lame comeback james, lame! LOL.

I /am/ the PR guy btw. Why do you think Foot.ie is so quiet? :)

adam

patsh
27/08/2003, 6:28 PM
Ask him why is he making extortionate financial demands on the FAI !;)
By the way things are going, he may not be there for much longer.

dahamsta
27/08/2003, 6:34 PM
When I want questions, I'll ask for them.

Schumi
28/08/2003, 10:55 AM
This may not be the best time to go looking for an interview with Rooney what with all the stuff about him looking for $hit loads of money from the FAI.

dahamsta
28/08/2003, 11:07 AM
Strikes me as an excellent time, I'd love to hear his side of the argument directly. And there's no point in putting it off. Unless somebody - like Rooney for example - does something to fix the FAI, there will /always/ be a big issue that needs to be dealt with. In my view, he needs to sweep the hobbyists, hangers-on and and moneygrubbers out the door and get the FAI and the League running like a proper business. Starting at the top seems like a good idea, and paying someone well for a job well done is par for the course. IF he does his job well that is. Bonuses should be based on performance. Bonuses for just turning up are just idiocy. There's my question for Rooney right there. :)

adam

Schumi
28/08/2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Vetinari
In my view, he needs to sweep the ... moneygrubbers out the door Like himself? ;)

It would be a excellent time to get an interview but perhaps a less likely time to get an interview!

dahamsta
28/08/2003, 11:31 AM
Perhaps I should have said talentless hack moneygrubbers. :)

To be completely honest I don't know how talented Rooney is as a businessman, but I get the impression he's no moron and he has a fair idea of what he's doing. I get a starkly contrasting impression of the rest of the management of the FAI. The organisation's been run over the years with a level of incompetence that defies the imagination.

I take your point about it being a difficult time to get an interview but as I said, there'll always be something with the FAI. If we wait for them to get their house in order, who knows how long it will take? We're giving Rooney an opportunity to come here and refute these kinds of assertions and talk directly to the fans he claims to respect so much directly.

It's an offer I wouldn't turn down if I was him, but of course I'm not him.

adam

patsh
28/08/2003, 5:13 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari
When I want questions, I'll ask for them.
It was meant as a tongue in cheek remark.
Do you like being so cutting?

Troy.McClure
28/08/2003, 5:24 PM
Originally posted by Vetinari Hi, Im Troy McClure, you might remember me from....


Originally posted by James
well he's definately not going to give you an interview if he thinks you're that lang@r


What are ya saying boy?:eek:
I'll whoop ya back to west Cork if you dont watch it there like! :mad: :p