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Whatever your opinions of the quality I think its very very harsh to question the commitment of any of the layers last night.
The worked very hard and kept pushing and running all nihgt. After 2 or 3 they could have sat back but they didnt. They kept pushing on and chasing down every ball, led by Mooney and Flynny up front.
If theres a particular player then name him and we'l see but I didnt see a single uncommitted player on the pitch last night. And I have been one of the people bitching about it earlier.
Id agree with Risteard though. Not much has changed. We're finishing a bit better but we need to sort out the midfield. get a proper right winger in and go 4-4-2 or we'l keep being killed down the wings by the stronger teams.
You coming down for the forum game next week Micls?
You coming down for the forum game next week Micls?
Maybe. I'm on holidays so I have free time anyway :D
A face
21/06/2008, 4:48 PM
Whatever your opinions of the quality I think its very very harsh to question the commitment of any of the layers last night.
Not saying anything about the quality, its purely the commitment and lack for drive and ambition that is on show.
The worked very hard and kept pushing and running all night. After 2 or 3 they could have sat back but they didnt. They kept pushing on and chasing down every ball, led by Mooney and Flynny up front.
Just because we are used to them sitting back on leads that doesn't mean that what we should be used to. Ideally you'd have a team the pushed on for all 95 mins or whatever length of time the game is. I'm making a pint of including the times of the game where we have thrown points away so far this season, the dying minutes of the game.
If they cant push on when we are three up then they should throw the towel altogether.
If theres a particular player then name him and we'l see but I didnt see a single uncommitted player on the pitch last night. And I have been one of the people bitching about it earlier.
I dont have to go further than Gamble and Healy.
Id agree with Risteard though. Not much has changed. We're finishing a bit better but we need to sort out the midfield. get a proper right winger in and go 4-4-2 or we'l keep being killed down the wings by the stronger teams.
I think enough time has gone by to know that change is needed, and the lack of change is worrying. I was always saying that we'd have to give AM time to getting things going but he is not making enough adjustments to prevent some of the performances we've had. But i'm not blaming it all on AM, i think the players have to come in for loads of criticism but as long as they are winning 5 nil against Cobh the 'everything is grand' !!
I dont have to go further than Gamble and Healy.
Sorry but thats rubbish. Gamble was good last night and there was far from a lack of commitment. i think the contract rumours are clouding peoples view of his performances.
Healy did anything he had to do, which was very little. He was a holding midfielder in a game where they barely attacked.
Completely disagree with the lack of commitment and drive comments last night.
Other games yes, last night no.
A face
21/06/2008, 7:58 PM
Sorry but thats rubbish. Gamble was good last night and there was far from a lack of commitment. i think the contract rumours are clouding peoples view of his performances.
Healy did anything he had to do, which was very little. He was a holding midfielder in a game where they barely attacked.
Completely disagree with the lack of commitment and drive comments last night.
Other games yes, last night no.
I am speaking about the whole season, not just last night. And i wouldn't leave it at Gamble and Healy either. I'd say if you asked the same question of anyone on the team they'd say the same if they answered honestly.
I am speaking about the whole season, not just last night. And i wouldn't leave it at Gamble and Healy either. I'd say if you asked the same question of anyone on the team they'd say the same if they answered honestly.
Your initial post was complaining about last night. Thats what you were questioned about when you answered with lack of commitment
A face
21/06/2008, 9:45 PM
Your initial post was complaining about last night. Thats what you were questioned about when you answered with lack of commitment
Right, question for you so. Do you think the team have given a full contribution so far this year? Ability, mental strength, rub of the green, all that aside, just their commitment to seeing that game through 90 mins and playing for the jersey.
micls
22/06/2008, 12:15 PM
Right, question for you so. Do you think the team have given a full contribution so far this year? Ability, mental strength, rub of the green, all that aside, just their commitment to seeing that game through 90 mins and playing for the jersey.
No. If you'd read my earlier psts you'd see I already said I had questionned their commitment earlier in the season.
But this thread is about the Cobh game, thats what you started complaining about and to say their was a lack of commitment is just wrong.
For the most part the team spirit has been good this year. How many times have we fought back from being behind?
Our problem has been concentration and formation imo. Things the manager needs to sort out
A face
22/06/2008, 1:36 PM
No. If you'd read my earlier psts you'd see I already said I had questionned their commitment earlier in the season.
But this thread is about the Cobh game, thats what you started complaining about and to say their was a lack of commitment is just wrong.
For the most part the team spirit has been good this year. How many times have we fought back from being behind?
Our problem has been concentration and formation imo. Things the manager needs to sort out
Fair enough
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