New signings

[see's it]

ah yes he was

he was asked and his reply was get me a job and il sign

[Monkfish]

Is it panto season already? :)

[abbeyvale]

Did Alan ask us? is he the next Ronaldo or something? :)

No he may not be, but L37 are hardly Real Madrid or Man Utd are they??? spare me.

The club should be trying to sign the best junior footballers in this town not the average ones, and until they do, they will stay in Div 1.

[Jofspring]

bottom line, if they have asked him to sign and he has said no he obviously doesn't want to step up to senior football at the moment. no point in begging players to sign and chasing certain players if they aren't interested. time can't be wasted. right now limerick need players that want to play for the club and if this means average players at the moment then so be it. this season is over for limerick cup wise and they won't make top 3 in the league, a strong or mid table finish is all thats wanted at the moment. also the eircom league transfer window is open so i'm sure they are looking at one or two players there.

[abbeyvale]

bottom line, if they have asked him to sign and he has said no he obviously doesn't want to step up to senior football at the moment. no point in begging players to sign and chasing certain players if they aren't interested. time can't be wasted. right now limerick need players that want to play for the club and if this means average players at the moment then so be it. this season is over for limerick cup wise and they won't make top 3 in the league, a strong or mid table finish is all thats wanted at the moment. also the eircom league transfer window is open so i'm sure they are looking at one or two players there.

If thats what the club want for now then fine, but to progress further they need the best 4/6 junior footballers in town, plus the best 8/10 players they have, on top of 3/4 decent EL signings.

[see's it]

If thats what the club want for now then fine, but to progress further they need the best 4/6 junior footballers in town, plus the best 8/10 players they have, on top of 3/4 decent EL signings.

do you go to the matches?

[abbeyvale]

do you go to the matches?

as often as I can, but not for a month or so now. why do you ask?

[Jofspring]

If thats what the club want for now then fine, but to progress further they need the best 4/6 junior footballers in town, plus the best 8/10 players they have, on top of 3/4 decent EL signings.

would be nice to be able to sign players like that but at the moment i don't think the club is in that position. if in time the club gets itself in a position to sign those types of players and they don't then they'll have some questions to answer but for the time being i'd personally prefer the club to be stable more than anything.

[the only 1]

is shane tracey still with ye?

[see's it]

as often as I can, but not for a month or so now. why do you ask?

you never seem to talk about the games thats all

[waylanderj]

you never seem to talk about the games thats all
whats that got to do with it
My other team is spurs i have been 3 times does that make me less of a fan than a fan who makes it to more games?
The answer is NO
i go when i can (very rarely)
but i trawl the sites for info and watche the matches on sky
i don't go to every game but i follow L37 thats my team
if this guy goes or not he is still entitled to his opinon about the team and who they sign or not
we all are

[see's it]

whats that got to do with it
My other team is spurs i have been 3 times does that make me less of a fan than a fan who makes it to more games?
The answer is NO
i go when i can (very rarely)
but i trawl the sites for info and watche the matches on sky
i don't go to every game but i follow L37 thats my team
if this guy goes or not he is still entitled to his opinon about the team and who they sign or not
we all are


WTF has it to do with you and spurs.i go to the games for the football and i just noticed he never actually speaks about the matches...
as for more of a fan are you 12?

[Monkfish]

No he may not be, but L37 are hardly Real Madrid or Man Utd are they??? spare me.

The club should be trying to sign the best junior footballers in this town not the average ones, and until they do, they will stay in Div 1.

Maybe they did try? and do you honestly think theres junior talent in this town that would see us promoted over sides like Shels and Dundalk?

[Jofspring]

is shane tracey still with ye?

no his loan deal is up.

[LK37oldskool]

[quote=waylanderj;974818]whats that got to do with it
My other team is spurs
Spurs fan!:D:D is there really such a thing?:D

[abbeyvale]

you never seem to talk about the games thats all

not much to say in all fairness, its been a poor showing to date, with the exception of one or two games.

[abbeyvale]

Maybe they did try? and do you honestly think theres junior talent in this town that would see us promoted over sides like Shels and Dundalk?

well didnt a depleted L37 just beat Dundalk??
and to answer your first question, I think there is at least 3/4 players in this town playing junior football that are good enough to improve the TEAM, and there are a lot more junior players in town better than some of the players currently on the L37 SQUAD.

I'm just giving my opinion thats all, after all, you cant tell me that the likes of Alan Barry, Keith Hartnett, Pat McGarry & Alan Carroll (to name a few) are not better than some of the players currently playing with L37.

[joeSoap]

I'm just giving my opinion thats all, after all, you cant tell me that the likes of Alan Barry, Keith Hartnett, Pat McGarry & Alan Carroll (to name a few) are not better than some of the players currently playing with L37. They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.

[abbeyvale]

They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.

Yes but surely if Mike Kerley signed them, then he would need to use his man-management skills to get the best of out each player (isn't that what he is paid to do?)

[Monkfish]

you cant tell me that the likes of Alan Barry, Keith Hartnett, Pat McGarry & Alan Carroll (to name a few) are not better than some of the players currently playing with L37.

Of course they are but they either dont want to or will want a lot more money than our current squad are being paid, and the simple fact is that the so called 'better' junior players around the town have all tried senior soccer and have made litttle or no impact so why bother over streching an already tight budget for these players?

As for beating Dundalk, as good as it was we're not chasing promotion, they still are.

[Monkfish]

man-management skills

Sadly lacking apparantly.

[gaidin]

They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.

What a player he was...

And I agree with what your saying about the junior lads. I think McGarry and Carroll would be great additions to the team but I dont think they would have the attitude for it.

[leather]

Had a god given talent but had problems with the application side of the sport...gifted

[Philbert]

Anyone on here ever see Pat Power play in his day? Passed away a couple of years ago? Great bloke... I heard he was a superb footballer in his day
RIP Pat

[4tothefloor]

Alan Barry isn't a fan of Mike Kerley. Keith Hartnett has had numerous opportunities to resign but has quite openly chosen junior international caps instead. Pat McGarry apparently offered to sign for the A team with a view to the senior squad but was turned down by Kerley. Unbelievable if true........Don't know anything about Alan Carroll. Not hearing good things about Mike Kerley's oddball management skills, I think we may have another NOC/Ski Magee on our hands.

[see's it]

why cos he wont accept junior standards at senior level?

[allab]

why cos he wont accept junior standards at senior level?

manjor/hayes,, ill say no more!

[da bishop]

They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.
sorry joe but you are doing these lads a terrible misservice there that cant go unchecked.bar carroll none of these lads have been asked to sign for l37 and in carrolls case he recieved 1 phonecall from mk which was,n followed up until recently.barry was treated very poorly by mk during his previous stint a few years ago,i wuldn,t be hartnetts biggest fan but both he and mcgarry are top junior players.the key here is MK,if he wants these players he should do everything he can to get them but whether he does or not his track record on signing players is very poor.i cant name a decent player he,s discovered or one he,s convinced..name or experienced....to sign for the clubs he,s managed.

[joeSoap]

sorry joe but you are doing these lads a terrible misservice there that cant go unchecked.bar carroll none of these lads have been asked to sign for l37 and in carrolls case he recieved 1 phonecall from mk which was,n followed up until recently.barry was treated very poorly by mk during his previous stint a few years ago,i wuldn,t be hartnetts biggest fan but both he and mcgarry are top junior players.the key here is MK,if he wants these players he should do everything he can to get them but whether he does or not his track record on signing players is very poor.i cant name a decent player he,s discovered or one he,s convinced..name or experienced....to sign for the clubs he,s managed.

Keith Hartnett: Tried his hand at EL a few seasons ago. Wasn't good enough then, and nothing I've seen of him at junior level with Pike tells me he'd be any better this time round. He displays a hell of a lot of arrogance and lack of ambition combined when he refused to sign last season because he wanted to go to the Canaries on a Junior International junket. Enough said!!

Alan Barry: Similar to Hartnett in that he tried the EL a few seasons ago, but never really did much. A bad injury later, with fitness concerns and the fact that he doesn't get on with the manager....Can be done without I think.

Pat McGarry: Has the ability, but drinks too much and won't give up the GAA. Not whats required in an EL player.

Its hard by the way to sign real talent, experienced or not when you're operating on a shoestring....Whatever gripes I've had with Mike Kerleys management style I decided to put on hold this season because of the predicament the club is is financially. Wins against Dundalk, Longford, and the resounding defeat of Danny Drews latest love interest on Friday night even have a cynic like me giving credit where its due.

[abbeyvale]

Keith Hartnett: Tried his hand at EL a few seasons ago. Wasn't good enough then, and nothing I've seen of him at junior level with Pike tells me he'd be any better this time round. He displays a hell of a lot of arrogance and lack of ambition combined when he refused to sign last season because he wanted to go to the Canaries on a Junior International junket. Enough said!!

Alan Barry: Similar to Hartnett in that he tried the EL a few seasons ago, but never really did much. A bad injury later, with fitness concerns and the fact that he doesn't get on with the manager....Can be done without I think.

Pat McGarry: Has the ability, but drinks too much and won't give up the GAA. Not whats required in an EL player.

Its hard by the way to sign real talent, experienced or not when you're operating on a shoestring....Whatever gripes I've had with Mike Kerleys management style I decided to put on hold this season because of the predicament the club is is financially. Wins against Dundalk, Longford, and the resounding defeat of Danny Drews latest love interest on Friday night even have a cynic like me giving credit where its due.


Just out of curiousity,,,,,,how many times have you seen Keith Hartnett play this season???

You have failed to mention Alan Carroll in your assessment of the above players.....

And just because a player tried and "wasn't good enough" when he first played EL doesn't mean that he hasn't improved since.

Alan Barry is a far better player than Manjor or Hayes, regardless of how Alan done in his first stint with L37.

[joeSoap]

Just out of curiousity,,,,,,how many times have you seen Keith Hartnett play this season???. Maybe a half a dozen or so before he got injured. My criticisms of Hartnett lie more with his attitude than anything else, but I still believe he wouldn't make any improvement to the current squad.


You have failed to mention Alan Carroll in your assessment of the above players...... As I said earlier, I do not know enough about him to comment. So therefore I won't.


And just because a player tried and "wasn't good enough" when he first played EL doesn't mean that he hasn't improved since.. True, but more likely in the case of a young fella, which Hartnett, Barry and McGarry certainly aren't.


Alan Barry is a far better player than Manjor or Hayes, regardless of how Alan done in his first stint with L37. Agreed, but I believe that we're seeing the last of Manjor and Hayes with the new signings, and the personality clash between Mike and himself wouldn't be healthy.

[Monkfish]

Thomas Lyons (Wembley)

Tony O'Mahoney (Fairview)

and.............Jamie 'Monster' Wunsch :eek: (Cobh) have been added.
http://www.limerick37fc.ie/gpage14.html

[Philbert]

Thomas (Yellow) played for Geraldines the last few years as far as i know.

He is a very good young player. With the right coaching, he could go along way. Still very young tho

Good signing

[rambler14]

and.............Jamie 'Monster' Wunsch :eek: (Cobh) have been added.
http://www.limerick37fc.ie/gpage14.html

Loan???.........Your getting a good player there. Big and strong. One for the future at St. Colmans Park.

[blinkx]

Keith Hartnett: Tried his hand at EL a few seasons ago. Wasn't good enough then, and nothing I've seen of him at junior level with Pike tells me he'd be any better this time round. He displays a hell of a lot of arrogance and lack of ambition combined when he refused to sign last season because he wanted to go to the Canaries on a Junior International junket. Enough said!!


I fail to make anything out of your "lack of ambition" remark,what exactly can he achieve with L37 exactly? 50 quid a week for being in the match squad? sure isn't he getting that above with the Pike already?? From what I can see your bashing the guy because he won't sign and prefers to win junior International caps then play in Ferrycarrig Park inWexford on a Friday night,more than likely having work the next day..

Fact of the matter is he's on par if not better than the majority of players currently togging out for L37.

[joeSoap]

I fail to make anything out of your "lack of ambition" remark,what exactly can he achieve with L37 exactly? 50 quid a week for being in the match squad? sure isn't he getting that above with the Pike already?? From what I can see your bashing the guy because he won't sign and prefers to win junior International caps then play in Ferrycarrig Park inWexford on a Friday night,more than likely having work the next day..

Fact of the matter is he's on par if not better than the majority of players currently togging out for L37.

I'm bashing the guy because he has pr1cked people about before with his 'Will I, Won't I' attitude to signing. What he can achieve with Limerick37 is proving himself at a higher level, playing on a national stage, and possibly attracting the attention of a bigger club and furthering himself.

But, lack of ambition prevents you from doing any of the above, and he'll always be known as a player who couldn't make it in the EL. Doesn't put him on a par with a lot of people in my book.

[Monkfish]

I fail to make anything out of your "lack of ambition" remark,what exactly can he achieve with L37 exactly? 50 quid a week for being in the match squad? sure isn't he getting that above with the Pike already?? From what I can see your bashing the guy because he won't sign and prefers to win junior International caps then play in Ferrycarrig Park inWexford on a Friday night,more than likely having work the next day..

Fact of the matter is he's on par if not better than the majority of players currently togging out for L37.

The other side of it is the staying in on a Sat night so you can play Granville in front of 10 people on a freezing cold morning instead of a summer night in front of hundreds against Shelbourne.
Harnett and some of the other 'top' junior players have proved before they are not up to senior standards and if they are happy where they are then they should be left to their kick and rush league.

[L37Ultra]

Harnett .

Whos he? :confused:;)

[Monkfish]

Whos he? :confused:;)

Just another junior baller who aint good enough for a league which has acually got a fixture list which wont change because a club is missing a couple of regulars or has games called off because someone says boo to the ref! :)

Its been so bad this year even Limerick fans are mortified for them. (and thats saying something!!!!!)

[the hoops]

lads look at some of the junior players lim37 have signed:rolleyes: christ there not good enough to even get on fairview,pike or the boro would ye stop::)

[blinkx]

I'd personally see it as common sense more than "lack of ambition", Hartnett/Barry/Buckley/etc would rather play at a decent level of football than parade around Ireland playing semi-"pro" football in front of 300-400 people on a freezing cold night in Monaghan. And get a "Premium" wage for the privilege of doing so.

Instead they could play with friends, drink in moderation, play for there country(if selected) and possibly get a free holiday out of it at the end of the year and make good fun out of your local LOI at the same time.

But please do continue, I'm sure if you keep saying the same stuff over and over for long enough someones bound to believe it..

Saying all that it'd be great to see a successful LOI side for Limerick, You'd just wonder how long it'll take the massive influx of new players to become disillusioned. 13 new players on top of your playing squad of I'd assume 22-24(?),making that more than 3 players for a position.

[the dazzler]

lads look at some of the junior players lim37 have signed:rolleyes: christ there not good enough to even get on fairview,pike or the boro would ye stop::)

think you have a point to be fair lim37 have signed some really poor junior players doesnt look good when the likes of hartnett,mc,garry carroll,barry turn them down

[joeSoap]

Instead they could drink in moderation, LMAO :D:D

[joeSoap]

think you have a point to be fair lim37 have signed some really poor junior players doesnt look good when the likes of hartnett,mc,garry carroll,barry turn them downI wasn't aware Hartnett, McGarry or Barry were asked this season. Don't know about Carroll...

[LFC in Exile]

Hartnett/Barry/Buckley/etc would rather play at a decent level of football than parade around Ireland playing semi-"pro" football in front of 300-400 people on a freezing cold night in Monaghan. And get a "Premium" wage for the privilege of doing so.

Instead they could play with friends, drink in moderation, play for there country(if selected) and possibly get a free holiday out of it at the end of the year and make good fun out of your local LOI at the same time.


Of course they are also guaranteed a game at their junior clubs and woul dhave to fight harder for a game with L37.

[Green_Hoop]

I wasn't aware Hartnett, McGarry or Barry were asked this season. Don't know about Carroll...

Every "Joesoap" was asked around Limerick for want of a better word...Rumor is the transfer fee is 2 mars bars and a Wibbley Wobbley Wonder.

[Monkfish]

300-400 people on a freezing cold night in Monaghan. .

This proves you havent a clue what your talking about. :D

[see's it]

i dont think Hartnett would get into the team at present to be honest

[blueblood]

The likes of Hartnett etc dont have the ambition. If there not going to try to make the step up to the next level (again),and would prefer to remain junior players thats their choice, and theres nothing wrong with that either. We'll never no how good they might actually be.

[allab]

any truth alan carroll signed an A form??