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Rovers fan
01/06/2008, 3:27 PM
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/08/05/30/SOCCER_FIFA_Lead.html

This would have a huge affect on our league if it came in. Do ye think it would be good? We would probably keep some of the good iIrish players instead of having them move to england when they get good. Transfers like kevin doyle,roy odonovan and mccourt(if he goes to west brom) wouldn't happen. I know Sligo rovers have a lot of foreign players so it would make a huge difference to the likes of us.

kingdomkerry
01/06/2008, 3:54 PM
"UEFA defines "home-grown players" as team members who, regardless of age or nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the National Association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21."

I find this part the most interesting. It means that Irish youngsters who sign for english clubs at the age of 15/16/17 will be classed as home grown players in england by the time they are old enough / good enough to play on the first team.

Makes me think if we could somehow keep our players at home until they are 18 the EPL clubs will be less likely to want them as they wont be "home grown". This could only help Irish football.

A face
01/06/2008, 4:17 PM
Makes me think if we could somehow keep our players at home until they are 18 the EPL clubs will be less likely to want them as they wont be "home grown". This could only help Irish football.

That would be the hard part though. But also the rule would effect England so it would balance the amount of players they can take at a young age.

The best way around this for our league is to improve the league and ensure we can keep players here for longer. We would realistically need to have players playing full time for all clubs in top flight here.

Rovers fan
01/06/2008, 5:29 PM
We would realistically need to have players playing full time for all clubs in top flight here.

This is going to be so hard to sustain when attendances are so low. If there is going to be a fully professional league in Ireland the people are going to have to support it. A lot of clubs seem to be in a very bad state financially or will be in the near future.

SligoBrewer
01/06/2008, 5:31 PM
"UEFA defines "home-grown players" as team members who, regardless of age or nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the National Association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21."

I find this part the most interesting. It means that Irish youngsters who sign for english clubs at the age of 15/16/17 will be classed as home grown players in england by the time they are old enough / good enough to play on the first team.

Makes me think if we could somehow keep our players at home until they are 18 the EPL clubs will be less likely to want them as they wont be "home grown". This could only help Irish football.

Will the English clubs not just take in more players at a younger age then?
Before the LOI sees these players at all, they'll all be whipped onto the ferry for England.

DmanDmythDledge
01/06/2008, 7:33 PM
Will the English clubs not just take in more players at a younger age then?
Before the LOI sees these players at all, they'll all be whipped onto the ferry for England.
I don't quite understand what you mean. How would that be possible? It's not like there would be secret schoolboy leagues that only English scouts would know about.

superfrank
01/06/2008, 7:42 PM
I don't see it affecting our league too much.

Even if players stay here, clubs would be spend more on recruiting young players but the coaching and training won't have improved. The fans will still support English clubs + Celtic.

Also, I'm pretty sure the EU will insist on the definition of "foreign" being someone who doesn't have an EU passport.

A face
02/06/2008, 12:28 PM
I don't quite understand what you mean. How would that be possible? It's not like there would be secret schoolboy leagues that only English scouts would know about.

Well he has a point to a degree if junior clubs still pride themselves on how many players they can ship out of the country each year.

amjl
03/06/2008, 1:36 PM
"Football's world governing body has voted in favour of the 'six-plus-five rule', which would put a limit on the number of foreign players each team could field."

Clubs can have as many foreigners as they like in their squad so I can't see this having a major effect on things, especially by the time EU trade law have had their say in it.

Although I am hoping we can get some of the better Irish players returning to boost the ELOI.

Rovers fan
03/06/2008, 2:44 PM
"Football's world governing body has voted in favour of the 'six-plus-five rule', which would put a limit on the number of foreign players each team could field."

Clubs can have as many foreigners as they like in their squad so I can't see this having a major effect on things, especially by the time EU trade law have had their say in it.

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Yeah but if ya can't have them on the FIELD whats the point in having them?

amjl
03/06/2008, 3:40 PM
Yeah but if ya can't have them on the FIELD whats the point in having them?

Obviously for the same reason as having any squad player; to cover for injuries & suspensions

sullanefc
03/06/2008, 7:12 PM
"Football's world governing body has voted in favour of the 'six-plus-five rule', which would put a limit on the number of foreign players each team could field."

Clubs can have as many foreigners as they like in their squad so I can't see this having a major effect on things, especially by the time EU trade law have had their say in it.

Although I am hoping we can get some of the better Irish players returning to boost the ELOI.

What you will see though is any young Irish player who has aspirations of playing in england go over and do a 3 year "apprentiship" to ensure he has options in the future and to increase his value.

3 years where he could be playing at home. You could argue that they are doing that anyway, but it could limit the player pool for Irish clubs while these guys are in england. Players will not come home if it jepeordises they're "homegrown" status. Instead they will drop to lower leagues in england rather than come home.

This rule benefits lower league english clubs rather than Irish clubs.