Kerr -becoming a Sad Figure

[Fergie's Son]

I lost a lot of respect for him after the home match against Israel. Adding Kavanagh for Keane made no sense. You may not like Connolly but he was a direct replacement for Keane and we would have continued our dominance of that game.

[Calcio Jack]

Very predictable that he would have a dig at Brady, I recall Brady calling one of Kerr's articles ridiculous on the panel and Kerr no doubt holds grudges, lost all respect for him, I especially hate the way he pretends to complement someone before getting his little dig in(e.g. calling Brady a legend), as if by doing this it makes his point seem more valid and not just the rantings of a bitter little man

You've summed it up Kerr's approach perfectly... he's engaging in what technically known as 'passive agression'...the man needs help big time.

[TonyD]

I thought Dunphy was right to get stuck into him in The Star today: "Kerr's just a back seat driver showing no class."


Humpty Dunphy is never right. About anything. Ever. He is in no position to start name calling Kerr (Whatever your views on Kerrs article are). Humpty is the ultimate backseat driver. He has slaughtered every Irish manager, and I'm sure Trapp will have his turn under the Dunphy knife too. For Dunphy to accuse Kerr of lacking class is mind boggling. (remember his attacks on his good friend John Giles ? See how he had turned on his other good friend, Roy Keane ? And his atacks are almost always characterised by their personal, spiteful and bitchy nature) Dunphy has also attacked Brady in the past, now when it suits his anti Kerr agenda, Brady is a legend, with a great record at Arsenals youth team (better than winning 2 European international youth titles, Eamonn ?) Brady was much more of a disaster as a manger than Kerr ever was with Ireland. Dunphy accuses Kerr of not wanting Ireland to succeed, does he not remember sitting in the RTE studio making a big issue of the fact he was wearing the Cameroon colours, and supporting them against Ireland during WC 2002 ? In short, Brian Kerr is a Pats legend(and that's all that really matters to me ), Dunphy is a hypocrite and a fool.

[OwlsFan]

I thought Dunphy was right to get stuck into him in The Star today: "Kerr's just a back seat driver showing no class."

The pot calling the kettle black!!

[zenokelly]

On Newstalk now!

[zenokelly]

He didn't say much, "couldn't believe" what he said made "so much headlines".

He just said there was a need to "repair some relationships" in regard to Brady's relationship with the players.

And he defended his statement about Brady and Ireland saying that he "never said the player (Ireland) was right".

And declared Brady not to be a weak link in the managerial team.

At least he came out to the public, still think he should mind his own business, he's past tense now.

[Wolfie]

On Newstalk now!

He went on Newstalk as well! This is beyond obsession.

This can only end with Kerr atop of the FAI Abbotstown Offices, shaking his fists at the cruel sporting gods, with a sawn-off shot gun with Delaney taken hostage.

"What was so wrong with preperatory DVD footage of Canada!!!!!!. I just needed more time, damn you!!!!"

[dublinmick]

Humpty Dunphy is never right. About anything. Ever. He is in no position to start name calling Kerr (Whatever your views on Kerrs article are). Humpty is the ultimate backseat driver. He has slaughtered every Irish manager, and I'm sure Trapp will have his turn under the Dunphy knife too. For Dunphy to accuse Kerr of lacking class is mind boggling. (remember his attacks on his good friend John Giles ? See how he had turned on his other good friend, Roy Keane ? And his atacks are almost always characterised by their personal, spiteful and bitchy nature) Dunphy has also attacked Brady in the past, now when it suits his anti Kerr agenda, Brady is a legend, with a great record at Arsenals youth team (better than winning 2 European international youth titles, Eamonn ?) Brady was much more of a disaster as a manger than Kerr ever was with Ireland. Dunphy accuses Kerr of not wanting Ireland to succeed, does he not remember sitting in the RTE studio making a big issue of the fact he was wearing the Cameroon colours, and supporting them against Ireland during WC 2002 ? In short, Brian Kerr is a Pats legend(and that's all that really matters to me ), Dunphy is a hypocrite and a fool.


Dunphy can make good and bad points, like everyone else. I thought him wearing the Cameroon colours was terrible - but that doesn't nullify what he said about Kerr. I'm not his biggest fan, but in my opinion he was spot on about Kerr. Kerr has acted disgracefully. He is a pathetic hurler on the ditch. Kerr, never mind Dunphy, really is a hypocrite. But I don't think he's a fool - In think he knows exactly what he is doing and should be ashamed of himself. He got the boot from Ireland because he was no good. He should get over it rather than sniping from the wings.

[Stuttgart88]

I have to says Kerr's latest piece in the Times was by and large spot on bar his praise of Miller! When being more objective in his analysis he's far more worth reading.

[tetsujin1979]

Kerr's piece online: http://www.ireland.com/sports/soccer/2008/0531/1212156490573.html

[Paddy Garcia]

I was at the Bulmers/Tv3 sports quiz in Galway last year where Kerr was the guest speaker.His bitterness at the FAI was incredible but at the time I thought understandable, but then he started telling some stories from training sessions and in one in particular he said the they had a game of Culchies against the Dubs, it was funny apart from the fact that he said that Roy Keane was stuck on the team with all the useless Gobdahs like Gary Doherty(in his words, Gary was a nice fella but jaysus he was ****e).... I just sat there thinking that if he thought he was so bad why the fcuk did he play so many games while Kerr was manager and especially in the game against the Swiss when we were so desperate for a goal. In that moment I lost any last lingering bit of respect I had for the guy

I've never been one to take a dig at Kerr, however if he said that then it is highly unprofessional & rather disgraceful.

[Razors left peg]

I've never been one to take a dig at Kerr, however if he said that then it is highly unprofessional & rather disgraceful.

it was disgraceful but I have to admit that there was a funny side to it too.He was talkin bout the run up to the France game and in the training game of the culchies against the dubs the dubs won 4 nil and Roy Keane was raging to have even lost in training, so when they were about to set up the teams for the training game the following day Keano shouts "right lads, same team as yesterday".Kerr had to tell him to fcuk off coz he didnt want half the team to have broken legs come the France game

[NeilMcD]

Poor old Roy did not like to get beat by the Dubs. Must have been the Anti Cork Bias

[paul_oshea]

Poor old Roy did not like to get beat by the Dubs. Must have been the Anti Cork Bias

I'd say he just didnt like to get beaten at all somehow neil. Btw I'd like to see the teams too.

[RogerMilla]

kerr was at the rory gallager weekend , he is a big music fan i remember reading

[youngirish]

Poor old Roy did not like to get beat by the Dubs. Must have been the Anti Cork Bias

Wonder who Kilbane, Andy O'Brien, Mattie Holland and Morrison played for in that training session?

Anyway Keane was fighting a losing battle from the start with a defence consisting of the likes of Gary Doherty, John O'Shea and Ian Harte.

[NeilMcD]

I suppose it went for whatever county their parent or grandparent was from. So in Kilbanes case it would be Mayo so that would make him captain of the culchies I reckon.

[cartman]

neil mcd, id say you were captain of many football teams over the years... you are surely a lifelong member and captain of Andycapp FC??

[mypost]

In short, Brian Kerr is a Pats legend(and that's all that really matters to me ), Dunphy is a hypocrite and a fool.

It appears that Pats fans are the only ones left to idolise Kerr.

He had a go at Trap the other week. Trap has won practically everything in the game over 3 decades. Kerr hasn't had a managerial job for 2 and a half years.

Make your own mind up on who knows what he's doing/talking about.

[geysir]

I suppose it went for whatever county their parent or grandparent was from. So in Kilbanes case it would be Mayo so that would make him captain of the culchies I reckon.
Wasn't it Achill Island?
That would put him in the culchie hall of fame.

[paul_oshea]

Wasn't it Achill Island?
That would put him in the culchie hall of fame.

Yes it was, achill sound to be precise, i went to college with a cousin of his, though she never took advantage of the situation. I think there are pictures of him down in a pub there. Actually I must find out the pub.

[NeilMcD]

Has Achill Island left Co. Mayo then.

[TonyD]

It appears that Pats fans are the only ones left to idolise Kerr.

He had a go at Trap the other week. Trap has won practically everything in the game over 3 decades. Kerr hasn't had a managerial job for 2 and a half years.

Make your own mind up on who knows what he's doing/talking about.


1) Maybe we are. So what ?
2) Don't recall reading or hearing him having a go at Trappatoni specifically. What did he say about him ?
3) No ones doubting Trappatonis record, or his ability. It just annoys me when people pretend Kerr did a whole lot worse with Ireland than he actually did. And he emphatically does know what he's doing as a manager. You don't win trophies otherwise.

As for getting a job "People running clubs in England aren't smart enough to realise how good Brian Kerr is" Not my words (and not an exact quote, my memory's not that good,but that was the jist of it). Eamon Dunphy :eek:on the Late Late Show with Brian Kerr after the under 20 Tournament in Malaysia, with Dunphy in full brown nose mode. Another example of what a hypocrite he is.

[Razors left peg]

1) Maybe we are. So what ?
2) Don't recall reading or hearing him having a go at Trappatoni specifically. What did he say about him ?
3) No ones doubting Trappatonis record, or his ability. It just annoys me when people pretend Kerr did a whole lot worse with Ireland than he actually did. And he emphatically does know what he's doing as a manager. You don't win trophies otherwise.

As for getting a job "People running clubs in England aren't smart enough to realise how good Brian Kerr is" Not my words (and not an exact quote, my memory's not that good,but that was the jist of it). Eamon Dunphy :eek:on the Late Late Show with Brian Kerr after the under 20 Tournament in Malaysia, with Dunphy in full brown nose mode. Another example of what a hypocrite he is.

The fact is that he failed with Ireland

[TonyD]

The vast majority of managers have failed at some stage during their careers. I'll still stand by what I said. A lot of people are lumping Kerr in with Staunton now, which is just ridiculous.

[Razors left peg]

The vast majority of managers have failed at some stage during their careers. I'll still stand by what I said. A lot of people are lumping Kerr in with Staunton now, which is just ridiculous.

He wasnt as bad as Staunton but he did fail the only time he managed above League of Ireland level

[tetsujin1979]

A lot of people are lumping Kerr in with Staunton now, which is just ridiculous.
I think that Staunton was appointed largely so the FAI could be seen to be dealing with Kerr's failings. I read an article a while ago that new managers are often appointed on the basis of the previous manager's failings. IIRC, it took Newcastle as an example, Keegan was seen as tactically inept at the end of his first reign, so Gullit ,who had a reputation of solid football following his stint at Chelseas was appointed. Gullit was sacked because he didn't understand the Geordie spirit, so Robson - a Geordie who bled for the club - was appointed. Robson was given the boot because he wasn't seen as a disciplinarian within the club, and Souness, who had a history of enforcing discipline, was appointed. And so on. It can be applied to the England national side as well, The public perception of Hoddle was (and still is) that the players couldn't get along with him (noone would care about his religious beliefs if he was successful, Domenech is known for bizarre astrology beliefs, but it's largely ignored because of his success). Keegan was appointed because he had a history of fantastic man management. When he left, Ericsson was appointed because he was a far better tactician than Keegan. Following his departure, and the outcry of appointing a foreigner (remember Harris' rant about selling their history down the fjord to a nation of skiers and hammer throwers who spend half their lives in darkness?), the most qualified English coach was appointed. After that failed miserably, the FA went with actual success, rather than potential.
Going back to Staunton and Kerr, the public reaction at the end of Kerr's reign was that he had lost the spirit of the dressing room. Staunton was appointed partially on the basis that he had been there in the successful years, and would being that spirit back. In the build up to the Sweden game their was a lot of talk in the press about how easy it was to talk to the players and manager, as compared to under Kerr where it was nigh impossible to get a quote outside of a press conference.
Like it or not, Staunton's failure will forever be linked with Kerr.

[geysir]

If Kerr just dumped the load of chips, the acid sarcasm - there would be no problem.

There is no problem with his overall managerial record for his country, at senior or underage.
There is no problem with his ability to write about a game.
When he just writes about the game he makes a good read.

[Drumcondra 69er]

If Kerr just dumped the load of chips, the acid sarcasm - there would be no problem.

There is no problem with his overall managerial record for his country, at senior or underage.
There is no problem with his ability to write about a game.
When he just writes about the game he makes a good read.

Agree generally although his senior record deserves to be questioned. When the chips were down (Russia at home and Swiss away for Euro 2004 when 6 points would have qualified us and France and Swiss at home for WC2006) he failed. You also have to point to our propensity under him to throw away winning positions (Russia again for 04, Swiss away and Israel home and away for 06) as a result of safety first tactics in general as a major minus. His best result was still only a 'moral victory' away to France in a game we should have won.

I was a staunch supporter at the time of his appointment and much as I thought he should go had a degree of sympathy when his contract wasn't renewed but he's behaved with such a degree of bitterness since then it's almost impossible not to disike him now. His glee at the Cyprus debacle when he was commentating at the game was unforgiveable and made little sense when you consider it was only Shay Given that prevented a similar scoreline the previous year when he was in charge. Kerr was in charge for some of the most insipid performances I've witnessed from an Ireland team (twice against the Swiss and against Cyprus despite the win) that were practically as bad as what we witnessed under Staunton.

[mypost]

When the chips were down when 6 points would have qualified us and France and Swiss at home for WC2006) he failed.

Winning just one of those games, including Israel at our own home ground, having been 2-0 up, would have got a play-off at least. We were supposed to have a bulletproof home record. 3 games at home to qualify for the WC, is about as good as it can get, yet Kerr blew it.


Don't recall reading or hearing him having a go at Trappatoni specifically. What did he say about him ?


There are more little petty digs there than on College Road.

[seanfhear]

I think that Staunton was appointed largely so the FAI could be seen to be dealing with Kerr's failings. I read an article a while ago that new managers are often appointed on the basis of the previous manager's failings. IIRC, it took Newcastle as an example, Keegan was seen as tactically inept at the end of his first reign, so Gullit ,who had a reputation of solid football following his stint at Chelseas was appointed. Gullit was sacked because he didn't understand the Geordie spirit, so Robson - a Geordie who bled for the club - was appointed. Robson was given the boot because he wasn't seen as a disciplinarian within the club, and Souness, who had a history of enforcing discipline, was appointed. And so on. It can be applied to the England national side as well, The public perception of Hoddle was (and still is) that the players couldn't get along with him (noone would care about his religious beliefs if he was successful, Domenech is known for bizarre astrology beliefs, but it's largely ignored because of his success). Keegan was appointed because he had a history of fantastic man management. When he left, Ericsson was appointed because he was a far better tactician than Keegan. Following his departure, and the outcry of appointing a foreigner (remember Harris' rant about selling their history down the fjord to a nation of skiers and hammer throwers who spend half their lives in darkness?), the most qualified English coach was appointed. After that failed miserably, the FA went with actual success, rather than potential.
Going back to Staunton and Kerr, the public reaction at the end of Kerr's reign was that he had lost the spirit of the dressing room. Staunton was appointed partially on the basis that he had been there in the successful years, and would being that spirit back. In the build up to the Sweden game their was a lot of talk in the press about how easy it was to talk to the players and manager, as compared to under Kerr where it was nigh impossible to get a quote outside of a press conference.
Like it or not, Staunton's failure will forever be linked with Kerr.
If a manager is successful then no matter how crazy his beliefs or coaching methods there are commentators/journalists/fans that will declare these crackpot ideas the answer to every problem on the face of the earth.These people are spoofers without an original idea of their own and there are far more of them out there than most people realise

[RiffRaff]

Like most people i was enthusiastic about Kerr's appointment but instead of the clever tactician and brave decision maker we expected, the job just seemed too big for him. My main memory is of him constantly picking our strongest 11 for friendly matches and beating sides who were using the games to experiment, giving a false impression that we were doing well. In fact we became completely dependant on Duff as an attacking outlet because we hadnt tried anything else and just became predictable for teams we played against competitively. His whole approach was negative and cautious and smacked of failure to experiment for fear of failure. The last straw was bringing back RK knowing he would expect to be guaranteed a starting place in competitive games and wouldnt accept being substituted. It may have made Kerr popular with armchair fans but it wasnt the sign of a strong manager.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Like most people i was enthusiastic about Kerr's appointment but instead of the clever tactician and brave decision maker we expected, the job just seemed too big for him. My main memory is of him constantly picking our strongest 11 for friendly matches and beating sides who were using the games to experiment, giving a false impression that we were doing well. In fact we became completely dependant on Duff as an attacking outlet because we hadnt tried anything else and just became predictable for teams we played against competitively. His whole approach was negative and cautious and smacked of failure to experiment for fear of failure. The last straw was bringing back RK knowing he would expect to be guaranteed a starting place in competitive games and wouldnt accept being substituted. It may have made Kerr popular with armchair fans but it wasnt the sign of a strong manager.

Not to mention the factthat it allienated certain players within the squad and kept 'Saipan' on the boil. RK's best days were behind him at that stage for me and it was little more then PR. Had he come back when Kerr was first appointed when he was initially asked he may have made a difference to that Euro campaign but it was too late when he did.

[jbyrne]

Not to mention the factthat it allienated certain players within the squad and kept 'Saipan' on the boil. RK's best days were behind him at that stage for me and it was little more then PR. Had he come back when Kerr was first appointed when he was initially asked he may have made a difference to that Euro campaign but it was too late when he did.

roy was at least as good if not better than any other ctre midfield option we had under kerr. not as spectacular as wc 2002 qualifying but still our best option. i would suggest the fact that he was missing from some of our more important qualifiers was one of the reasons we failed to qualify. why are we so special that the re-introduction of a 'bad boy' alienates other players in the squad? it happens in other national teams far bigger than us all the time. i think our national team and what surrounds it needs to grow up a little

[Razors left peg]

Not to mention the factthat it allienated certain players within the squad and kept 'Saipan' on the boil. RK's best days were behind him at that stage for me and it was little more then PR. Had he come back when Kerr was first appointed when he was initially asked he may have made a difference to that Euro campaign but it was too late when he did.

what players did it exactly alienate. That crap was brought up before he came back and we were warned that half the squad would quit if it happened... did one single player quit ????
He might have been past his best at the time but he was still a hell a lot better than any midfielder in the squad and his performance in Lansdown against the French was excellent

[Drumcondra 69er]

roy was at least as good if not better than any other ctre midfield option we had under kerr. not as spectacular as wc 2002 qualifying but still our best option. i would suggest the fact that he was missing from some of our more important qualifiers was one of the reasons we failed to qualify. why are we so special that the re-introduction of a 'bad boy' alienates other players in the squad? it happens in other national teams far bigger than us all the time. i think our national team and what surrounds it needs to grow up a little

Give it a rest, the very fact that you refer to the games he missed reinforces the point that he was well past his best being totally injury prone by then. It's my opinion that it was a bad move by Kerr and a PR stunt on Roy's part. He did okay when he played but his effictiveness was way overstated by a media obsessed with him such as in the away game in France when he was overshadowed by far by a limited player like Kilbane in midfield yet every two bit journalist creamed themselves over his performance.

It's a fact that is p1ssed off some (by no means all) of the squad. It was a gamble by Kerr that didn't pay off for me, was way too backward looking depending on a prodigal son who was always likely to miss games rather then moving on and trying to build something.

[Drumcondra 69er]

what players did it exactly alienate. That crap was brought up before he came back and we were warned that half the squad would quit if it happened... did one single player quit ????
He might have been past his best at the time but he was still a hell a lot better than any midfielder in the squad and his performance in Lansdown against the French was excellent

Not everyone quits a squad just because they don't like someone involved in it.....

[Razors left peg]

Not everyone quits a squad just because they don't like someone involved in it.....

I dont like some of the people I work with either, doesnt mean I feel Alienated or make me any worse at my job

[Drumcondra 69er]

I dont like some of the people I work with either, doesnt mean I feel Alienated or make me any worse at my job

Fair enough, that comment was tounge in cheek. Not quite the same though is it?

All I'm saying though is that I've heard, on good authority, that a number of players weren't happy with the the way Keane was chased back particulalry after turning Kerr down the first time. These things can affect a dressing room and players relationship with their manager (which, whether as a result of that or not defintely dipped in this case). Had Keane been the player he was a couple of years previous then this probably wouyldn't have made any difference but it's my opinion that Kerr pinned his chances too much on RK's return and suffered because of it.

[Billsthoughts]

it was a no brainer taking keane back. he was better than the options we had end of story. as for some players bein upset. so what? when they stand up to be counted on the pitch then they can moan off it. Kerrs record at international level is ok. better than macarthy in my opinion(who got forever to try get Ireland thru and then only when keane dragged them thru). staunton doesnt count as his reign was a farce. trapp is a good manager but remains to be seen what he can achieve with technically mediocre players who blame everyone but themselves for failures.

[Razors left peg]

Fair enough, that comment was tounge in cheek. Not quite the same though is it?

All I'm saying though is that I've heard, on good authority, that a number of players weren't happy with the the way Keane was chased back particulalry after turning Kerr down the first time. These things can affect a dressing room and players relationship with their manager (which, whether as a result of that or not defintely dipped in this case). Had Keane been the player he was a couple of years previous then this probably wouyldn't have made any difference but it's my opinion that Kerr pinned his chances too much on RK's return and suffered because of it.

I would still have Roy Keane in the team ahead of the likes of Matt Holland, Liam Miller, Kevin Kilbane, Lee Carsley and the rest. Im no fan of Kerr but I do think that bringing Keane back was one of the few high points of his management

[BigmanCas]

it was a no brainer taking keane back. he was better than the options we had end of story. as for some players bein upset. so what? when they stand up to be counted on the pitch then they can moan off it. Kerrs record at international level is ok. better than macarthy in my opinion(who got forever to try get Ireland thru and then only when keane dragged them thru). staunton doesnt count as his reign was a farce. trapp is a good manager but remains to be seen what he can achieve with technically mediocre players who blame everyone but themselves for failures.

Kerr's record is better than Mc Carthy's???. Well done Billy. 2-2 Israel - HA!!!!

All that can be said is that Mc Carthy got a job immediately after leaving the Irish set up where I might add he did a wonderful job whereas Kerr on the other hand to quote the vomit Dunphy was a 'nothing manager' who has not been truely employed since. Beat that one.

[jmurphyc]

Kerr's record is better than Mc Carthy's???. Well done Billy. 2-2 Israel - HA!!!!

All that can be said is that Mc Carthy got a job immediately after leaving the Irish set up where I might add he did a wonderful job whereas Kerr on the other hand to quote the vomit Dunphy was a 'nothing manager' who has not been truely employed since. Beat that one.

Kerr's record in terms of points per game is exactly the same as McCarthy's was and McCarthy had more time in the job with his best results not coming until near the end. IMO Kerr probably should have been kept on considering who we got in instead. We may have qualified for Euro 2008 if Kerr was still around, but anyway that's all in the past now. As for McCarthy getting a job after Kerr, he already had a bit of a reputation in England due to playing there and managing there previously whereas Kerr's stock would have been relatively low in England. McCarthy has arguably failed at the two jobs he's had since leaving the Irish job.

As for the whole RK thing, is there really any need to bring it up again? Kerr made a decision that he thought was best for the team and most people ageed with it at the time as far as I'm aware.

[jbyrne]

Give it a rest, the very fact that you refer to the games he missed reinforces the point that he was well past his best being totally injury prone by then..

anyone can break their foot whether in their prime or not and thats what Roy did


It's a fact that is p1ssed off some (by no means all) of the squad.

its a fact if it can be proved. prove it?

if players were annoyed at the return of one of our best ever players still playing at the highest club level possible then id say the problem was with them and says a lot about their ambitions

[NeilMcD]

[QUOTE=Drumcondra 69er;956344]

I was a staunch supporter at the time of his appointment and much as I thought he should go had a degree of sympathy when his contract wasn't renewed but he's behaved with such a degree of bitterness since then it's almost impossible not to disike him now. His glee at the Cyprus debacle when he was commentating at the game was unforgiveable and made little sense when you consider it was only Shay Given that prevented a similar scoreline the previous year when he was in charge


I agree with all of that.

[cartman]

[QUOTE=Drumcondra 69er;956620]Give it a rest, the very fact that you refer to the games he missed reinforces the point that he was well past his best being totally injury prone by then. It's my opinion that it was a bad move by Kerr and a PR stunt on Roy's part. He did okay when he played but his effictiveness was way overstated by a media obsessed with him such as in the away game in France when he was overshadowed by far by a limited player like Kilbane in midfield yet every two bit journalist creamed themselves over his performance.

this has to be one of the most stupid comments ever made on this forum..PR stunt!! well done you muppet.. keane was still our most influential player at that time.. he got injured because he was past his best?? i say 18/19 years get injured all the time - is this because they are also past their best??
is there any way stupid people like yourself with ridiculous comments can be removed from this thread so that others can chat sensibly??

[skitz3]

is there any way stupid people like yourself with ridiculous comments can be removed from this thread so that others can chat sensibly??

From someone who cannot spell or use Capital letters :rolleyes:

[FarBeag]

this has to be one of the most stupid comments ever made on this forum..PR stunt!! well done you muppet.. keane was still our most influential player at that time.. he got injured because he was past his best?? i say 18/19 years get injured all the time - is this because they are also past their best??
is there any way stupid people like yourself with ridiculous comments can be removed from this thread so that others can chat sensibly??[/QUOTE]

No need to get personal Cartman. Anyhow he is one of the better and more articulate posters on here and I have no problems with him having an opinion and either should you. Now go write something sensible if you are able.

[Billsthoughts]

Kerr's record is better than Mc Carthy's???. Well done Billy. 2-2 Israel - HA!!!!

All that can be said is that Mc Carthy got a job immediately after leaving the Irish set up where I might add he did a wonderful job whereas Kerr on the other hand to quote the vomit Dunphy was a 'nothing manager' who has not been truely employed since. Beat that one.

plenty of poor results under macarthy. 3-2 loss to macedonia and 4-2 loss to russia and plenty of drivel in between. As for the only bet Cyprus one nil lark. he bet them 3-0 at home and one nil away. stan drew at home and was hammered away. and despite winning four nil macarthys team struggled away from home against them. as did lots of teams over the last few years.

[mypost]

As for the only bet Cyprus one nil lark. he bet them 3-0 at home and one nil away. stan drew at home and was hammered away.

Kerr beat Cyprus as most bosses do, and it's nothing to tell the grandkids about. Staunton didn't and was fired, as you should be if you can't beat Cyprus.