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A face
05/05/2008, 9:00 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/

mns@rte.ie


Missed it tonight, was it good, what was on it?

pineapple stu
05/05/2008, 9:02 PM
Very enjoyable again. Feature on the Euro U-16 win, Goal of the Month (of suspect quality, admittedly), Harps' winner against Derry ten years ago on the scorer's 40th birthday and Glen Crowe losing his balance over his belly.

sligoman
05/05/2008, 9:06 PM
Disappointed they didn't interview Keith Foy during the Euro U-16 feature. Considering he's in the league, scored one of the goals in the clip they showed and was also mentioned by Andy Reid in the interview. Think I'll send them an e-mail.

Boo_Boy
05/05/2008, 9:14 PM
Another good show, Tony O'Donoghue did a good job & the guests tonight(Rico, Dave Barry and Liam Mackey)made some good points.

I enjoyed the report on the Euro - U16 aswell, i didnt know John O'Shea & Andy Ried was playing for them back then:o.

Giovanni Trappatoni & Marco Tardelli will be doing the draw for the 2nd Round of the FAI Cup on next week's show:eek:

sligoman
05/05/2008, 9:19 PM
Giovanni Trappatoni & Marco Tardelli will be doing the draw for the 2nd Round of the FAI Cup on next week's show:eek:3rd round and why the shock? They are the international management team.

Boo_Boy
05/05/2008, 9:21 PM
3rd round and why the shock? They are the international management team.

sorry i meant to hit the ':)'!

Sheridan
05/05/2008, 9:22 PM
You can see for yourself now, A Face, it's up on the site.

Wasn't a great show, though. Around a quarter of it was wasted on Oireland stuff which had nothing to do with the league, the 60 interviewee was some nobody from UCD and your man Mackey was back on the panel and doing most of the talking for some reason.

pineapple stu
05/05/2008, 9:24 PM
Around a quarter of it was wasted on Oireland stuff which had nothing to do with the league, the 60 interviewee was some nobody from UCD
:rolleyes:

I suppose the quality of the Ballybofey pitch on the Archive section met with your disapproval too?

Poor Student
05/05/2008, 9:26 PM
:rolleyes:

I suppose the quality of the Ballybofey pitch on the Archive section met with your disapproval too?

I wouldn't be too bothered, he's just indulging in a spot of bank holiday fishing.

pineapple stu
05/05/2008, 9:29 PM
You'd like to think so, but he has a bizarre notion that the Irish national team should consist solely of players playing in Ireland, which gets brought up far more regularly than an opinion of its ridiculousness ought.

bellavistaman
05/05/2008, 9:48 PM
refeering the big topic again with the danny murphy incident and glen crowes fall, to be fair to crowe he didnt even appeal. The shams red card was disgraceful from your man, thats bloody assault

srfc19
05/05/2008, 9:56 PM
would have made sense to interview foy alright,as he's in the league and all.
he's put on a little bit of weight in the last few years eh?

gael353
05/05/2008, 10:05 PM
That 60 seconds thing is retarded and if thats the only way of getting a woman in the show :rolleyes: The first division doesnt exist of course and it was no surprise to see Dave Barry as Tony ODs side kick i was actually expecting a visit from the president of cork himself, Roy Keane! The "raiders" :rolleyes: piece is ruined by the grany footage which is a joke and is RTE just saying that our footbage is ****e. Not a showing of great European times like the 60s/70s/80s course the tapes are prob taped over with GAA games by now. Id love to see a collection of away european goals in the show. Just from a Limerick side, Des Kennedy scoring in the bernebeu, Limerick drawing 1 1 in the Dell Vs Southampton or Alkmaars last min winner against us in 79. No chance of course

pineapple stu
05/05/2008, 10:14 PM
E-mail them.

But I bet the footage, if it still exists (I know our game against Everton is gone), will be grainy.

cheifo
05/05/2008, 10:14 PM
That 60 seconds thing is retarded and if thats the only way of getting a woman in the show :rolleyes: The first division doesnt exist of course and it was no surprise to see Dave Barry as Tony ODs side kick i was actually expecting a visit from the president of cork himself, Roy Keane! The "raiders" :rolleyes: piece is ruined by the grany footage which is a joke and is RTE just saying that our footbage is ****e. Not a showing of great European times like the 60s/70s/80s course the tapes are prob taped over with GAA games by now. Id love to see a collection of away european goals in the show. Just from a Limerick side, Des Kennedy scoring in the bernebeu, Limerick drawing 1 1 in the Dell Vs Southampton or Alkmaars last min winner against us in 79. No chance of course.



I remember as a kid looking forward to Limericks euro games and being gutted that
Alkamar got a late one to go through.You can email them and make suggestions btw.

A face
05/05/2008, 10:18 PM
The first division doesnt exist of course

We have been over this before, can we give it a rest now. If you are promoted then you'll be on, get promoted and its job done.


and it was no surprise to see Dave Barry as Tony ODs side kick i was actually expecting a visit from the president of cork himself, Roy Keane!

Last few beers after the long weekend draws to a close i see.


The "raiders" :rolleyes: piece is ruined by the grany footage which is a joke and is RTE just saying that our footbage is ****e. Not a showing of great European times like the 60s/70s/80s

Email address ... top of the thread. List some games and they'll show them. Unless you are expecting someone else to do it for you.


course the tapes are prob taped over with GAA games by now.

C'mon, you're being silly now


Id love to see a collection of away european goals in the show.

I would too, good idea, email them about it. List some goals as well so it has a better chance of being shown.


Just from a Limerick side, Des Kennedy scoring in the bernebeu, Limerick drawing 1 1 in the Dell Vs Southampton or Alkmaars last min winner against us in 79. No chance of course

Email them, if they have the footage then there is no reason it wont be shown.

pineapple stu
05/05/2008, 10:19 PM
C'mon, you're being silly now
No he's not. That's what they do with archive footage. (Not necessarily the GAA bit, but the recording over bit)

A face
05/05/2008, 10:37 PM
No he's not. That's what they do with archive footage. (Not necessarily the GAA bit, but the recording over bit)

They spend huge amount of money on time coding footage so i cant imagine that they record over it willy nilly, i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but some footage gets priority over other. I cant imagine to tape over European footage like that.

Ask them .... email them

rambler14
05/05/2008, 10:43 PM
Why has there been 2 UCD players on that "Sixty" thing? When Ramblers, Finn Harps, Cork City and Sligo havn't had any players!

The red card at the Sligo vs Shams game was terrible. It was assault as Bellavistaman stated earlier on in the thread.

The goal of the month is a joke. There is no way that Brennan's penalty shuld be in there. There's a few more i'd question aswell.

Battery Rover
05/05/2008, 10:45 PM
They spend huge amount of money on time coding footage so i cant imagine that they record over it willy nilly, i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but some footage gets priority over other. I cant imagine to tape over European footage like that.

Ask them .... email them

It was common practise with RTE to tape over old sports footage. Our club contacted them for the footage of Athlone vs AC Milan and only 30 minutes of it survived.

I have emailed half of europe trying to find old footage of the away leg in the San Siro bit as of yet no joy.

HarpoJoyce
05/05/2008, 11:06 PM
After the game at the showgrounds did Mauro Almeida actually say
"Best. Game. Ever."

A face
05/05/2008, 11:18 PM
It was common practise with RTE to tape over old sports footage. Our club contacted them for the footage of Athlone vs AC Milan and only 30 minutes of it survived.

I have emailed half of europe trying to find old footage of the away leg in the San Siro bit as of yet no joy.

Do they contact clubs when they are doing this? Surely the clubs have some rights over it as well, seeing as they are the biggest stakeholders as regards the content. I mean if they are going to tape over it then they have no more use for it, give it to the clubs and leave them have it, even with an understanding that they could use it when ever they want.

HarpoJoyce
05/05/2008, 11:25 PM
Do they contact clubs when they are doing this? Surely the clubs have some rights over it as well, seeing as they are the biggest stakeholders as regards the content. I mean if they are going to tape over it then they have no more use for it, give it to the clubs and leave them have it, even with an understanding that they could use it when ever they want.

The broadcaster/production company has paid for the rights of the footage. They have further edited that material. It's the company that takes the images that has the rights. For right or wrong.

The subject has lost entitlements before the event took place.

Your argument is very romantic but on a previous post you rebuked another member because they suggested that the First Division get a look in.

theworm2345
05/05/2008, 11:51 PM
Owen Morrison for goal of the season for me

Poor Student
06/05/2008, 12:23 AM
Why has there been 2 UCD players on that "Sixty" thing? When Ramblers, Finn Harps, Cork City and Sligo havn't had any players!


Easy enough to figure out. Ever seen the distance between RTE and UCD?

One the Keith Foy issue, they didn't talk to Dessie Byrne either, nothing to worry about too much. Enjoyed Tony O'Donoghue presenting for a change.

Angus
06/05/2008, 6:57 AM
That 60 seconds thing is retarded and if thats the only way of getting a woman in the show

Excellent - those of us of a slightly older persuasion actively seek out opportunities to express a minority view and this is one.

I really like the 60 thing - her questions are generally nonsense but that is not really the point.

The point is that it is reasonably funny if the player is up for it and it is a good part of an overall excellent show

Magicme
06/05/2008, 8:07 AM
I think it gives a chance to see a bit of the personality of the players and that is something this league needs badly, for people to be able to connect and indentify with their "local heros".

A face
06/05/2008, 8:15 AM
Your argument is very romantic but on a previous post you rebuked another member because they suggested that the First Division get a look in.

Ahh, rebuke is harsh given i dont make the rules, am not employed by RTE/MNS and my opinion has no impact whatsoever, an email from me would only carry the same weight as anyone else who contacted them re: First Div.

I personally dont agree with it, and i also have what is sometimes described as a fairly draconian view on tv money in that i think it should be shared equally between all 22 clubs. I'd be castigated for that as well no doubt.

I think the only solution for it is to give me more of a say of what actually happens in the league so i could champion the first div cause ;)

A face
06/05/2008, 8:20 AM
Excellent - those of us of a slightly older persuasion actively seek out opportunities to express a minority view and this is one.

I really like the 60 thing - her questions are generally nonsense but that is not really the point.

The point is that it is reasonably funny if the player is up for it and it is a good part of an overall excellent show


I think it gives a chance to see a bit of the personality of the players and that is something this league needs badly, for people to be able to connect and indentify with their "local heros".

I'm the same, its nowhere near as bad as people are making out. For the casual viewer who may not be a LOI fan it breaks down the barriers and makes them realise there are actually blokes like any other in the game, not just a collective that is pigeon holed and ridiculed.

Seagull-4-life
06/05/2008, 8:44 AM
Alan Cawley was good on last weeks show.
Not just saying that coz he plays for Bray

Fivesilver
06/05/2008, 8:49 AM
Mackey was decent enough except for the comment on the Crowe penalty. He seemed to be saying that despite there being no foul, it was right for Bohs to get the penalty because they had been on top and didn't score and therefore 'deserved something'.
Someone might try explaining to him that the keeper is part of the UCD team, and that keeping the ball out of the net is the job he's there to do. :p
Maybe we should consider a rule change whereby after missing a certain number of chances, you're given a penalty.

Rovers Maniac
06/05/2008, 8:55 AM
Agree Five, it was like they were saying Bohs had a right to handed a crazy penalty because they had a number of chances.

saint dog
06/05/2008, 9:25 AM
Disappointed they didn't interview Keith Foy during the Euro U-16 feature. Considering he's in the league, scored one of the goals in the clip they showed and was also mentioned by Andy Reid in the interview. Think I'll send them an e-mail.

only really done players that have made it....

LeixlipRed
06/05/2008, 9:36 AM
The U-16 thing was a joke. Fine interview Big Nose and Big Waist but at least make some attempt to relate it back to the league! One of them mentioned Dessie Byrne and we get a half second flash of him in a Pats jersey. And Foy was mentioned loads without any comment about who he plays for now. We all know were those two play now but the regular non loi Joe doesn't. How fecking difficult is it to interview Foy and Byrne??

As for 60, they need to start leaving the Pale a bit. Surely they can send a local camera man to record the players answers and splice in Jacqui Hurleys questions after if its costing too much to have her running around the country?

A face
06/05/2008, 9:51 AM
Mackey was decent enough except for the comment on the Crowe penalty. He seemed to be saying that despite there being no foul, it was right for Bohs to get the penalty because they had been on top and didn't score and therefore 'deserved something'.
Someone might try explaining to him that the keeper is part of the UCD team, and that keeping the ball out of the net is the job he's there to do. :p
Maybe we should consider a rule change whereby after missing a certain number of chances, you're given a penalty.

To be fair i think he was referring to the two comments before his and the stage of the debate they were at. They were talking about the overall balance of the game.

And the peno, she fell over, she fell over, she fell over !!

A face
06/05/2008, 9:52 AM
As for 60, they need to start leaving the Pale a bit. Surely they can send a local camera man to record the players answers and splice in Jacqui Hurleys questions after if its costing too much to have her running around the country?

Impossible to splice something like that, it would never work. People are complaining about it now, imagine if they ran with your idea :eek:

LeixlipRed
06/05/2008, 9:53 AM
Impossible to splice something like that, it would never work. People are complaining about it now, imagine if they ran with your idea :eek:

Yes of course it's impossible. Just because you say it is.

rambler14
06/05/2008, 9:54 AM
Owen Morrison for goal of the season for me

No way. You can't be rewarded for scoring into an empty net. Gary O'Neil's goal vs Harps or Killian Brennan's free vs Drogheda will win that.

A face
06/05/2008, 9:56 AM
Yes of course it's impossible. Just because you say it is.

Ok, i'll take that ;)

LeixlipRed
06/05/2008, 9:57 AM
You can't be rewarded for scoring into an empty net.

Yes you can, it's called a goal.

rambler14
06/05/2008, 9:59 AM
Yes you can, it's called a goal.

By rewarded I mean get a goal of the month or goal of the season award.

LeixlipRed
06/05/2008, 10:01 AM
By rewarded I mean get a goal of the month or goal of the season award.

I was only kidding. God, the corkies are sensitive today :p

rambler14
06/05/2008, 10:02 AM
I was only kidding. God, the corkies are sensitive today :p

Nah just tired. I'm only just after waking up.:D

Schumi
06/05/2008, 10:27 AM
Maybe we should consider a rule change whereby after missing a certain number of chances, you're given a penalty.

Is that not a rule already? Someone should tell refs at UCD games.

sligoman
06/05/2008, 10:53 AM
A penalty should never be in any goal of the month competition imo.

A face
06/05/2008, 10:58 AM
A penalty should never be in any goal of the month competition imo.

But it was the whole game as well and how the peno finished it off.

sligoman
06/05/2008, 11:07 AM
But it was the whole game as well and how the peno finished it off.The whole game was in the GOTM competition?:confused:

It was just the penalty A face, a good penalty but still nothing special.

DmanDmythDledge
06/05/2008, 11:12 AM
Show wasn't as good last night with Tony O'D as presenter- didn't suit him at all I thought.

Block G Raptor
06/05/2008, 12:36 PM
It'll be interesting to see who's presenting it during the Olympics as I'm pretty sure Tony O'Donohoe and Con Murphy will be off to Beijing

passinginterest
06/05/2008, 1:14 PM
It'll be interesting to see who's presenting it during the Olympics as I'm pretty sure Tony O'Donohoe and Con Murphy will be off to Beijing

It's being reduced to a half hour show during that period too, I think that's what they announced at the launch anyway. They'll probably use it to try out some new recruits, give them screen testing time.