€150,000 bid for O'Flynn

[Estar]

From Scottish club Falkirk, would that be a club record? Has scored twice for Irish U-21's. Would he move to Scotland?

[@ndy]

Originally posted by Estar
would that be a club record?

I'd imagine so.


Originally posted by Estar
Would he move to Scotland?

I'd imagine so.

[NorthoftheLee]

he's worth well more than that! He aint going anywhere for that sort of money...i hope!!!!!!!!

[James]

*does some frantic research over on falkirk website*

btw who the fcuk are falkirk like!!!!

[Estar]

Falkirk won Div 1 last year but were not allowed into the Prem because the club was sub standard.

They have €500,000 from transfers. I would much rather live in Cork than Falkirk.

[@ndy]

Stepping stone to bigger things. £150,000 - i'd say that's a good price.Much better than losing him in a year or two for nowt...

[James]

Originally posted by Estar
Falkirk won Div 1 last year but were not allowed into the Prem because the club was sub standard.


yeah saw they won div 1 easily enough
me reckons flynny going nowhere.. esp not to scottish div1 side
might have been different matter if they had gotten promoted

estar. where u hear this from btw?

[eoinh]

There is a story on soccer central about this although no fee is mentioned

http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=10351&mainheading=Eircom&viewstory=yes

i hope city dont put money over the good of the team. O'Flynn is the teams lynchpin and our best player by far:mad:

[Estar]

Originally posted by James


estar. where u hear this from btw?

It's an exclusive in the Irish Sun, only buy the paper because Keely has a column in it on a Tuesday. They also have a full page advert in the Kildare County programme, I like to support the companies that support County.

[James]

Originally posted by Estar
It's an exclusive in the Irish Sun,
i guess the evening echo will have the exclusive so later on today when it comes out. i'll beleive it once i see it in the echo from spillage

[Dodge]

The money's about right but it would be a step down for O'Flynn, football wise

[ian]

Dodge I would agree with you on that one. I think it would be a step down after all ur league is better than the scottish first div

[patsh]

Hasn't he said he would only go to a Premiership or 1st divison team in England?
Even the Scottish Premier league would be a step down if it was not Celtic or Rangers.

[James]

so we could well a situation where as was stated the money was right, i think the club would consider selling for 150,000 + sell on and appearance clauses, but you could/should/hopefully have JOF turning the deal down cause falkirk are CRAP :)
and it's a big step down from playing for the Rebel Army

[Neil]

If Shams got €250,000 for Noel Cúnt off Kilmarnock
Flynny has to be worth 4/500,000

Not that he's going anywhere anyway!

[Dodge]

I'd think very poorly of him if he agreed to the move. Has he ever come out with statements saying he's desparate to go back to the UK

[eoinh]

What is amazing to me is that (1) no one has approached city before about him and (2) that he was let go from the UK in the first place.

i consider him to be citys second best player ever (after dave barry, of course).

[Neil]

Only Pat Morley and George O'Callaghan come close to John O'Flynn as City's best ever. Barry was good but not in the same class as these three.

[ccfc till i die]

O' Flynn was actually only let go by Peterborough because they couldn't afford him after the ITV digital thing. His manager Barry Fry said one day he would play for Ireland.

BTW Neil you're right , if that rovers fella was worth 250,000 then I reckon Flynny has gotta be worth at least 500,000

[dcnags]

from a football point of view,if you were john o flynn you would have a better chance of getting to play europoean football with ccfc than you ever would with falkirk and they can't even play in the scottish premier!!by playing european football you would therefore have a better chance of being noticed by english clubs' scouts than you would playing with falkirk i would say.

What i'm saying is if he wants to play in england and not with falkirk he should hold out until the end of the season when we could qualify for europe.

[niamh]

I'd be disappointed with flynny if he left City for Falkirk.

[tiktok]

Falkirk would not be a good move for him. i think we all realise that in the mid to long term an offer will come in that neither player nor club can turn down, but this isn't it.
Moving to Falkirk would be a step backwards for flynn, i honestly think our standard is higher, we still have a shot of euro football, something Falkirk will never have, his exposure there would be less, even from the U21 point of view.
I doubt city would accept the offer anyway, he's worth more than that to us, regardless of how much he's worth to Falkirk.

[Seanie]

The 96fm website is reporting that "Chelski" are interested in Glenn Crowe - a 1.25m fee is being reported. Probably absolute rubbish but Flynnie is worth at least as much as Crowe if not potentially more.

[eoinh]

Originally posted by Seanie
The 96fm website is reporting that "Chelski" are interested in Glenn Crowe - a 1.25m fee is being reported. Probably absolute rubbish but Flynnie is worth at least as much as Crowe if not potentially more.


ITV Web and Teletext has the same story about Crowe

[NorthoftheLee]

he'd only be there as a babysitter for duff..

[ian]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I don't think so hahahahahahahaha Crowe for chelsea stop the bus i want to get off.

[eoinh]

Originally posted by Neil
Only Pat Morley and George O'Callaghan come close to John O'Flynn as City's best ever. Barry was good but not in the same class as these three.


Dave Barry was citys one truley great player. He was able to control a match. Since ive been going to matchs only Pat Byrne could match him.

[thecorner]

Originally posted by Estar
It's an exclusive in the Irish Sun, .
definitly must be true so

[Olaf Thom]

Greetings!

I'm a Falkirk Fan, trying to find out info about this O'flynn fellow.

I didn't think Falkirk would be getting ripped to bits.

Our Record Transfer is £450K for Derek Ferguson. We've paid over 100K, 4 times.

We got knocked back for the SPL because our ground did not have 10,000 seats. Our 12,500 seater stadium is getting built right now.

As we didn't get promoted, we've lost our strikeforce, Lee Miller to Bristol for £350K and £400K for our entire Management team, Collin Samuel, Mark Kerr and Owen Coyle to Dundee Utd

So we have a bit of cash to play with, I can't see us offering more than 150K.

This Season we've signed Russell Latapy from Rangers and few others but we need a strikeforce.
I would say the top of the Scottish First would be on a Par with the Irish League.

He would certinaly get more exposure as plenty of our players move to English Clubs or Larger Scottish Clubs. Our Cup games are on SKY or FIVE. If we bags 20 goals in the Scot First Division He'll move for 300K easy! Davie Weir and Alex Rae started there career with us

So whats the info on O'Flynn is he a target man, speedster or poacher.

[Ruggy Bairn]

Hello there, City fans!

I too am a Falkirk fan, and our club is highly ambitious, we'll be in the Premier league within 2 years if not, one.

Can you tell us how many goals O'Flynn scored last season? I read somewhere 38, is that about right?

[Slash/ED]

If O'Flynn ever wants to play for Ireland, and as Barry fry has said he is good enough too some day, he'll wait for a better offer. Going to the Scottish first division is a step backwards and could leave his career in a rut. He should stick with City, continue being prolific for the U21s and wait for a premiership side to come in and move then, top first division side at the very worst. He'd be absolutley mad to goto Falkirk, no offence to their fans...

[Real ale Madrid]

If Falkirk are as good as thier fans say they are and are as ambitious as they seem. Flynn would be only 1 season away from playing in front of 60,000 people at Celtic Park. Good exposure there. Also look at a team like Livingston - they did ok in Europe for a team out of the scot 1st div. just one season.

Don't get me wrong i agree with the earlier posts, i think it would be a terrible move for him - just throwing a few possitives about the move - people seem to think that Falkirk would be a huge step down - in the long run that may not be the case.

Flynn got 18 goals last season i think???

[Ruggy Bairn]

Originally posted by Real ale Madrid
If Falkirk are as good as thier fans say they are and are as ambitious as they seem. Flynn would be only 1 season away from playing in front of 60,000 people at Celtic Park. Good exposure there. Also look at a team like Livingston - they did ok in Europe for a team out of the scot 1st div. just one season.

Don't get me wrong i agree with the earlier posts, i think it would be a terrible move for him - just throwing a few possitives about the move - people seem to think that Falkirk would be a huge step down - in the long run that may not be the case.

Flynn got 18 goals last season i think???

Indeed, and as Olaf mentioned, one of our youngsters departed just last week for close to £400,000 stg. to Bristol City. And hed only played in our first team for a season and a half. He is only 20, and won his move from us, so no reason O'Flynn couldn't do the same or better.

He'll have better exposure than Lee Miller did (the guy who went to Bristol) anyway, as we WILL be in the SPL soon!

[Pablo]

i think its an insulting bid. anyway has'nt he been quoted as saying he'll only move to a premiership club or big first division club?


no disrespect to falkirk but would they be considered bigger than us?

[yiddo]

No way Pablo. How could they be considered bigger than us ?

After all they don't have our European pedigree :D :D :D

[Olaf Thom]

So has Barry Town got a European Pedigree. ;)

Our best Player is away to the English second division. Most Players follow the cash and if we pay more than Cork, He'll want to come to us.

Whether you except our bid or not is differerent matter? There is no chance in Hell we'll pay more £150K, God knows how many euros that is!

Cheers

[bob_mcshug]

Alright folks, yet another falkirk fan here!!!

As mentioned, despite being a 1st division club, O'Flynn will get much more interest playing for us IMO. Last year with the quality youngsters we had, scouts from Man U, Everton, Charlton etc were at most of our home games !!

Also, to give you an idea of the standard....Stuart Taylor was playing for Drogheda last season and I'm led to believe he was one of their best players!!! ...although he did well with us, he had to fight long and hard before he got into the 1st team!!

I think O'Flynn will get more exposure with us and it would be a good career move for him.

What kind of striker is he??

[A face]

Originally posted by Olaf Thom
I would say the top of the Scottish First would be on a Par with the Irish League

Well if you are comparing yourselves to the Irish league then i dont think much of you.
If compared to the Eircom League then i'd say we are not far off middle of the Scotts premier. Falkirk is a bad move for any player in eL. Not a chance of getting seen and would get more recognition for staying at home with better chances of getting seen in Europe. Clubs like Falkirk know their worth now that they go snoopin' about .... for get it and sort your lives out.


Falkirk = Death (and words to that effect)







What clan are Falkirk ?

[tiktok]

can someone clear up whether it's 150,000 euros or stg?
there is quite a difference (not that i'd take it in either case).

for the falkirk boys, o'flynn probably falls under the speedster/poacher label if you have to have one. good close control, very fast, and a really great finisher. strong enough in the air too but it wouldn't be his game. he scored 18 league goals last season, more in the cup games, strike rate of well over 1 in 2 games. second highest scoreer to glenn crowe who has been capped for ireland based on his scoring (only three more goals than o'flynn). he's played three times for the U21 team scoring twice. he's top scorer this season as we stand.

try www.eirways.com/citynet for a profile.

the money isn't good enough for him though. and i doubt he'd move unless you were already up to be honest, judging by what he's said about going back to england.

[James]

FAO falkirk footballl club

lads lads lads ye've gotten it all wrong
o'flynn is a 1 season wonder, the guy bottles it under pressure misses peno's.
the real player ye want is Noel 'Hartigoal' Hartigan
this is very tall and strong and is a proven international...
plus he has alot more experience then oflynn and is still a very young player.
i think it would be a good move for both parties if ye concentrated on hartigoal.. a much better option :)

i know city fans would be sorry to see noel go but its probably in his best interests as a footballer, we cant stand in the way of progress

[A face]

Originally posted by James
FAO falkirk footballl club

lads lads lads ye've gotten it all wrong
o'flynn is a 1 season wonder, the guy bottles it under pressure misses peno's.
the real player ye want is Noel 'Hartigoal' Hartigan
this is very tall and strong and is a proven international...
plus he has alot more experience then oflynn and is still a very young player.
i think it would be a good move for both parties if ye concentrated on hartigoal.. a much better option :)

i know city fans would be sorry to see noel go but its probably in his best interests as a footballer, we cant stand in the way of progress

Hear hear .... gift of a player ... legend. He IS the guy you need ;)

[Eric]

Bad form from bob mcshug coming on here with the rovers crest under his name!!!!!

Yer definately not getting Flynny now

[Peadar]

Originally posted by bob_mcshug
I think O'Flynn will get more exposure with us and it would be a good career move for him.

He'll get exposure alright but it will be from the elements in the artic climate of Scotland and not the type of media exposure he needs.
You may not know much about the League of Ireland and think that players/clubs aren't up to much but believe me outside of Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic Scotish football is virtually non existant as far as the rest of the football world is concerned. I think Bohs know a bit about Aberdeen since they knocked them out of the UEFA Cup in 2000 but as for the rest of you, we haven't got the foggiest.

[Olaf Thom]

Aberdeen have won the European Cup winners cup, Dundee Utd got the final of the Uefa. So other Scottish Teams have achieved success.
When Bohs beat Aberdeen, Aberdeen were the worst side in their history, only saved from relegation by league reconstruction.

But Kilmarnock beat Shelbourne not so long a go. Kilmarnock are always crap.

Scottish Football suffers from Scottish people thinking their either Irish or English and travel from all over country to support the Bigot Brothers - Instead of the Local sides.


Anyway, look at the the UEFA Country Coefficients 2002/2003. The Scottish league is ranked 12th, Ireland is 37th.

We're in a footballing mega slump and you're in a boom, with all your great players and national side doing well -you're league is still below Iceland and Cyprus.


Here the link -> Coefficents (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/qual2003.html)

[Peadar]

Originally posted by Olaf Thom
We're in a footballing mega slump and you're in a boom,

We're in the top division in our country and you're not.
It's as simple as that.
We're in the process of establishing a full-time, professional league and things are getting better after they were bad.
There was a time in Cork when football grounds were jam packed with tens of thousands of people but that's all history as it the all the stuff you've given us about Scotish teams winning in Europe.
One of your biggest sides got to the final of a second rate European competition last year but couldn't win it.
I dare say their exploits and those of their Glasgow rivals has a lot to do with your coefficient status.
Lets call a spade a spade, without the top two you would have a league comparable to that of the Welsh League.
John O'Flynn would be a foolish lad to leave us for Falkirk.

[tiktok]

the national side's results have nothing to do with coefficients, it's purely based on results by club sides, and up to a few years ago irish clubs had only won games with alarming irregularity, but then we were an amateur/semi-pro league. that's improving now.

scotland's coefficient has much to do with rangers and celtic in the champions league (and the latter getting to the uefa cup final this season) and little to do with anyone else, certainly not falkirk.

the clubs you mentioned are all premier division, but we're talking about a first division side in falkirk, whose fans here have named two players who've gone on to do well after playing at falkirk as some incentive for o'flynn to move. roy keane moved from cobh ramblers but that doesn't mean a move there would do flynn any good.

at the end of the day, the money isn't good enough, the club plays at a lower level than flynn currently does and he doesn't need to move to get scouts looking at him as is obvious from falkirk's offer.

someone said your cup games were shown on sky, flynny's U21 games were too, he's had two of those this season, how many cup games did falkirk have on sky last season, if that's the incentive.

;)

[Olaf Thom]

If Rangers and Celtic never existed there would be around 100,000 fans that would go and support there local team rather than go shopping with the wife.

When Hibs were in the winning the first division they averaged 17,500, when they got into the SPL the average crowd went down, despite 4 full houses against the Bigot Brothers.
All clubs get bigger crowds when their successful and the other Scottish clubs have no chance of competing with the forces of Darkness.

Without the Old Scum our league would be hyper-competitive and would get bigger crowds. I've lived in Basle for a while and trust me Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen are bigger clubs than them, Bigger Stadiums and More Fans.

If the old firm ****ed off, the Scottish league would become stronger, and more like Switzerland or Austria than Wales or dare I say Ireland.

[eoinh]

Can i ask the scottish lads on here, where did you here about a possible move for O'Flynn to Falkirk? Is it being reported in the scottish media? and by whom?

[Hitman]

Originally posted by Conor74


But let's not get all anti-Falkirk about it. .

How long before we start comparing the size of our flags?

[Olaf Thom]

It was in the Daily Record (a scottish paper) saying our Manager has put in a bid and would be viewing him on Friday.

I searched for John O'flynn, Irish Soccer on Google and found Soccercentral which seemed to confirm the Record story.

Look, if this guy is going to the top of the game then he shouldn't be coming to us. But if his contact ending soon then you might be better taking €200K from us than see him walk away for nothing.


Conor74, You're 100% right, if everyone supported their local team, we'd all be better off. Maybe then we could keep our good young players and you could keep yours.