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Maroon 7
17/03/2008, 10:39 PM
Anybody know any more about this lad? The name sounds Turkish. One to hang on to?


Republic of Ireland 1-0 Italy
Tidim 67

The Republic of Ireland Under-16 recorded victory against Italy on Sunday in their first fixture of the Malta International tournament.

Selcuk Tidim’s struck the only goal of the game with 13 minutes remaining, putting the finishing touch to a flowing move that involved Shane Murray, Oliver Kelly and Ryan Connolly.

The FC Pauli striker connected with Connolly’s cross from the left, giving the Italian goalkeeper no chance.

The goal was Tidim’s fourth in his past four matches after the German-born striker declared for Ireland through his mother.

His rich vein of form began on his debut against Belgium and he followed that up with a goal in each of the matches against Israel.

Ireland’s main threat in the first half came through centre-back Mark O’Brien. Twice the Cherry Orchard defender got the better of his marker in the box from corner kicks but he saw one of his headers saved and the other angle over the crossbar.

Tidim was presented with a great chance to break the deadlock, also in the first half, but contrived to blast his close-range shot over the bar following another teasing centre by Connolly.

More chances were spurned by Oliver Kelly and Shane Murray in the second half but it was left for Tidim to secure the victory on 67 minutes.

Irish manager Vincent Butler said in the aftermath of the win. “It was very pleasing performance and all the players did the jobs they were asked to do.

“Selcuk came up with another goal for us and, in the end, we could have won the game by a larger margin.”

Butler has guaranteed the seven players not in the line-up against Italy a starting place in the team which meets Malta on on Tuesday. Ireland will complete their group on Thursday by playing Turkey, who defeated Malta 2-0 in the other group game played on Sunday.

Ireland: Ciaran Gallagher (Castlefin), Leigh Swords (Belvedere), Daniel Joyce (Belvedere), Mark O'Brien (Cherry Orchard), Anthony O'Connor (Kilreen Celtic), Sean Stewart (St. Kevin’s Boys), Shane Murray (Arklow Town), Sean Skelly (Belvedere), Ryan Connolly (Derby County), Oliver Kelly (Reading), Selcuk Tidim (FC St.Pauli).
Substitutes: Daniel Fitzsimons (Millwall) for Swords (65 mins) and Anthony Bolger (St. Kevin’s Boys) for Bolger (75 mins).

eirebhoy
18/03/2008, 7:56 AM
I asked about him a few months ago. He's German born to I think a Turkish father and Irish mother. He scored over 100 goals in a season for the St Pauli youths. Germany and Turkey tried to get him to commit to them but he chose us.

/edit - just noticed his eligibilty is confirmed in that article.

graham_d
18/03/2008, 7:58 AM
Was just looking him up on the St Pauli website. He's just signed a 'long-term' (whatever that means) contract and has played for their U17 team. They have a short report on the Ireland game here (http://www.fcstpauli.com/magazin/artikel.php?artikel=2494&type=&menuid=464&topmenu=94).

The U17s are looking good for promotion from the regional league to the Bundesliga, apparently.

Tidim (seems to be sometimes spelled Tidem) also was chosen best player at an underage tournament in January (http://www.fcstpauli.com/magazin/artikel.php?artikel=2391&type=&menuid=464&topmenu=94).

The senior team are struggling somewhat in the Bundesliga 2, so in one way a good place to get opportunities but obviously long-term they're a selling club. I'm guessing Hamburg is his home town, but St Pauli has a more mixed background than HSV, ethnically speaking.

Superhoops
18/03/2008, 11:48 AM
I asked about him a few months ago. He's German born to I think a Turkish father and Irish mother. He scored over 100 goals in a season for the St Pauli youths. Germany and Turkey tried to get him to commit to them but he chose us.

/edit - just noticed his eligibilty is confirmed in that article.

Apparently he joined the St.Pauli set up when he was 9 and has scored over 600 goals for them since then.

theworm2345
18/03/2008, 2:43 PM
Hopefully hes not the next Terry Dixon

youngirish
18/03/2008, 3:42 PM
Hopefully hes not the next Terry Dixon

Or worse - the next David Connolly.

shakermaker1982
18/03/2008, 4:10 PM
cool name!

theworm2345
18/03/2008, 6:43 PM
Or worse - the next David Connolly.
You're right, who would want play in the World Cup and still be hated by half of the country...****
I certainly hope Tidim gets treated better is my point

I want everyone here to notice how he brought up Connolly completely unprovoked, not me

irishfan86
18/03/2008, 7:43 PM
Well one thing I've noticed with foreign born players, or players with foreign accents who decide to play for Ireland is that when things are going well, they're just one of the lads, but when things are going bad he's an "English so and so," or "Scotland's rubbish," etc...

Clinton Morrison is a perfect example of this kind of treatment. When selected, he's one of our hardest working players, yet I've seen a number of posters question his commitment and criticize his performances for us. While his connections to Ireland may be tenuous, his commitment after having been selected should not ever be questioned. He's worked his socks off on a number of occasions, and scored some crucial goals (even in away games, remember Israel!).

I realize this tends to happen in society at large as well (scapegoating minorities during economic hard times for example), but you can bet an unsavoury element of the Irish support will have something to say totally unrelated to football when young Tidim goes through a tough spell, or misses a sitter in a crucial match.

Denis The Red
19/03/2008, 11:22 AM
Sounds like one for the future, OUR future. What's the criteria for commiting to a certain country. Can he change allegiances until senior level if he wants or is he now Irish and that's it?

RiffRaff
19/03/2008, 11:37 AM
Glad he's opted for us because by all accounts the Turks are pretty hot on getting declarations from and second or third generation players abroad.

Dr. Ogba
19/03/2008, 12:33 PM
Well one thing I've noticed with foreign born players, or players with foreign accents who decide to play for Ireland is that when things are going well, they're just one of the lads, but when things are going bad he's an "English so and so," or "Scotland's rubbish," etc...

Clinton Morrison is a perfect example of this kind of treatment. When selected, he's one of our hardest working players, yet I've seen a number of posters question his commitment and criticize his performances for us. While his connections to Ireland may be tenuous, his commitment after having been selected should not ever be questioned. He's worked his socks off on a number of occasions, and scored some crucial goals (even in away games, remember Israel!).

I realize this tends to happen in society at large as well (scapegoating minorities during economic hard times for example), but you can bet an unsavoury element of the Irish support will have something to say totally unrelated to football when young Tidim goes through a tough spell, or misses a sitter in a crucial match.

think you're preaching to the choir here my good man...

Morbo
19/03/2008, 12:40 PM
You're right, who would want play in the World Cup and still be hated by half of the country...****


And in that World cup he took one of the most pathetic pens I have ever seen, he is a bottler of the highest order which you think would make him humble but the arrogant **** thought he should be the first striker on the team

Jicked
19/03/2008, 2:10 PM
Well one thing I've noticed with foreign born players, or players with foreign accents who decide to play for Ireland is that when things are going well, they're just one of the lads, but when things are going bad he's an "English so and so," or "Scotland's rubbish," etc...

Clinton Morrison is a perfect example of this kind of treatment. When selected, he's one of our hardest working players, yet I've seen a number of posters question his commitment and criticize his performances for us. While his connections to Ireland may be tenuous, his commitment after having been selected should not ever be questioned. He's worked his socks off on a number of occasions, and scored some crucial goals (even in away games, remember Israel!).

I realize this tends to happen in society at large as well (scapegoating minorities during economic hard times for example), but you can bet an unsavoury element of the Irish support will have something to say totally unrelated to football when young Tidim goes through a tough spell, or misses a sitter in a crucial match.

Well I can only speak for myself, but I'm rather sure my hatred of Clinton isn't because I'm scapegoating a minority, but rather because he's an utter, utter ****, an average player, a moron, and once bragged about learning how to drink a pint of Guinness, presumably because he proper loves Eire. Innit?

amaccann
19/03/2008, 2:23 PM
Is it just me or does nearly every thread about an Irish player descend into an argument of some kind about David Connolly?

jbyrne
19/03/2008, 2:39 PM
but the arrogant **** thought he should be the first striker on the team

name me a striker who doesnt?

eirebhoy
19/03/2008, 6:30 PM
We're scouring the globe it seems. Tidim scored again against Malta as well as New Zealand born Tim Pilkington off Freiburg.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3001

I wonder is this him posting on Leo Messi's site:

Tim Pilkington (08-04-2006 01:48)
Hi Leo my name is Tim Pilkington. I live for football and everything in my life is about it. The ball makes me happy and watching you makes me happy too. I wish you the best of luck in the future and to achieve all you wish and more. God bless and we will meet soon in the near future.

http://www.lionelmessi.azplayers.com/messages/29.html

theworm2345
19/03/2008, 8:21 PM
And in that World cup he took one of the most pathetic pens I have ever seen, he is a bottler of the highest order which you think would make him humble but the arrogant **** thought he should be the first striker on the team
Haha, suprisingly you believe Don Givens...yet he alienates half of the players he comes into contact with

irishfan86, Morrison and Andy O'Brien seem to get it worst for "only playing for Ireland because England wouldn't have them," I agree its stupid.

Morbo
20/03/2008, 9:20 AM
Don Givens is a beautiful man and I won't have the likes of you slandering him :mad:.
Seriously though, even if Givens made the whole thing up I still wouldn't be a fan of Connolly, not sure why we are even talking about him as he is really kind of rrelevant

boovidge
20/03/2008, 9:45 AM
good to see these guys delcaring so young! :)

Dr. Ogba
20/03/2008, 10:14 AM
We're scouring the globe it seems. Tidim scored again against Malta as well as New Zealand born Tim Pilkington off Freiburg.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3001

I wonder is this him posting on Leo Messi's site:


http://www.lionelmessi.azplayers.com/messages/29.html

bloody hell EB where do you find these things! :)

theworm2345
20/03/2008, 11:27 AM
Don Givens is a beautiful man and I won't have the likes of you slandering him
[QUOTE=Morbo;901857]
Seriously though, even if Givens made the whole thing up I still wouldn't be a fan of Connolly, not sure why we are even talking about him as he is really kind of rrelevant
You brought him up

Don Givens is a beautiful man and I won't have the likes of you slandering him :mad:.
I'm not touching that one :confused::eek:

Morbo
20/03/2008, 11:52 AM
You brought him up


Short term memory there worm, you were the first to mention him anyway I think Don Givens is too media friendly and these things shouldn't be aired in public but I doubt he outright lied about the Connolly incident

theworm2345
20/03/2008, 7:50 PM
Short term memory there worm, you were the first to mention him anyway I think Don Givens is too media friendly and these things shouldn't be aired in public but I doubt he outright lied about the Connolly incident
Fair enough you didn't bring him up, but it wasn't me either...it was youngirish. I'd love to continue the Connolly discussion, but I think it would best for all if done by PM

Irish_Praha
04/07/2010, 8:49 PM
St. Pauli got promoted last season maybe he might get some Bundesliga 1 games under his belt in the next season or two.

Crosby87
04/07/2010, 10:37 PM
More importantly, Whatever happened to Leigh Swords? :D
Ger Crossley, Leigh Swords, two of the better names.

ifk101
07/07/2010, 12:44 PM
Well I can only speak for myself, but I'm rather sure my hatred of Clinton isn't because I'm scapegoating a minority, but rather because he's an utter, utter ****, an average player, a moron, and once bragged about learning how to drink a pint of Guinness, presumably because he proper loves Eire. Innit?

I'm replying to this now because I see I've been given an infraction (2 years after the event - and presumably by the dumbass that has now thanked your post) for my original reply to your post which I considered drivel.

I'm against the capping of players with "weak" linkage to us but once they are capped they have my full support as I believe they should be given a clean slate to prove themselves by their actions rather than judged on what gutter journalism deems worthy to be published. If I had the authority, I probably wouldn't have given Clinton Morrison the opportunity to play for Ireland but then again we're not on first name terms. However in saying that, Clinton Morrison hasn't done anything in his time as an Irish international for me to question his commitment to our cause. Quite the contrary. Now yes he is an average player and in his youth mentioned something or other about Guinness. But it's hardly the stuff to incite hatred or to justify your mini rant.

irishfan86
07/07/2010, 7:25 PM
Clinton may have said some stupid stuff, but he was the only senior player who, while a member of the senior panel, went to watch the B international a couple of years ago to support the lads. I thought that was a nice touch. I think that was near the end of the Kerr era.

Kingdom
08/07/2010, 8:57 AM
What's all this got to do with Selcuk?

Jacky08
08/07/2010, 10:31 AM
What's all this got to do with Selcuk?

Any update on the lad at all

mark12345
08/07/2010, 10:26 PM
I was all excited reading this teaser about Selcuk Tidim. Thought there was some breaking news about him because I really rate this lad. But then there's something about who said what about Clinton Morrison. C'mon lads stay on topic.

the bear
18/03/2011, 11:24 PM
any one know how this fella is getting on? is he playing in the first team?

DannyInvincible
18/03/2011, 11:35 PM
From the little recent information I can find on him around the web, he doesn't appear to be playing in their first team yet. Still only 18 after all. He has been called into our under-19 squad (http://fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101612:u19-squad-named-for-cyprus-games&catid=4:under-19&Itemid=12) however by Paul Doolin for two games in Cyprus, so at least somebody's keeping an eye on him.

boovidge
18/03/2011, 11:42 PM
All I can find is a slightly bizarre video of him playing indoor football in which he scores a really good goal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mabJ7slXAK8 2:20 in

the bear
19/03/2011, 12:17 AM
ye he seems to be in the st. pauli under 19's aswell.

sean r
19/03/2011, 1:10 AM
i prefer beamish stout

rebelmusic
19/03/2011, 11:21 AM
St Pauli fans opinions here

http://www.fcstpauli.com/iframe.php?menuid=482&topmenu=136

From my limited german they're saying he's a top class prospect. He won player of the tournament at some tournament haha. They really seem to rate him. Seems they're getting most of their info from the FAI site which is pretty ironic.

Fixer82
19/03/2011, 12:21 PM
Fair enough you didn't bring him up, but it wasn't me either...it was youngirish. I'd love to continue the Connolly discussion, but I think it would best for all if done by PM

Connolly wasn't the only player Givens fell out with. Seems he had his mind made up about players before he ever picked up the phone to talk to him.

Totally agree with ifk
Wouldn't be for capping players that seemed to be holding an auction for the best international team
But in fairness to Clinton he gave his heart and soul when pulling on the green jersey

If the lad qualifies and wants to play let's have a look at him

liamoo11
27/03/2011, 11:12 PM
Played last 20 minutes for under 19s in nil all draw today. they play again tuesday where he prob will get more game time

TheOneWhoKnocks
22/02/2014, 12:05 PM
http://theemeraldexiles.com/2014/02/21/selcuk-tidim-left-or-right-the-goals-still-flow-for-irelands-young-turk/

Interesting enough article about Tidim.

DannyInvincible
22/02/2014, 12:12 PM
Hadn't heard much of Tidim's progress in a while. Was never aware his mother was from Belfast. Cheers for the update, and a pretty handy site, that, too.

TheOneWhoKnocks
06/07/2015, 1:54 AM
Tidim has left promoted Schoenberg.

http://www.fupa.net/berichte/nach-der-kuer-kommt-die-pflicht-318487.html