Euro 2008

[Pike B]

do,nt forget veron,forlan,taibi,liam miller,
Oh ya, and them!!!

[abbeyvale]

do,nt forget veron,forlan,taibi,liam miller,

Veron was a world class proven footballer, he just didnt settle in England, Forlan has proved what a good finisher he is in Spain over the last few years, and he'll always go down as Utd legend for his 2 goals in Anfield.:p The other 2 I agree with.

[old git]

Veron was a world class proven footballer, he just didnt settle in England, Forlan has proved what a good finisher he is in Spain over the last few years, and he'll always go down as Utd legend for his 2 goals in Anfield.:p The other 2 I agree with.


lads am i missing something here ... what has an veron / forlan and man utd got to do with euro 2008 if i remember back to my school days argentina & uraguay are both in south america :D :D

[abbeyvale]

lads am i missing something here ... what has an veron / forlan and man utd got to do with euro 2008 if i remember back to my school days argentina & uraguay are both in south america :D :D

Its just a debate Pike "B" and I have going about so called flops that were bought by Utd & Pool.
We'll let it at that then, and move on.

[Pike B]

Ya that's the end of it there. So Old Git, what about the Euros? Who's your pension money on? :D

[old git]

Ya that's the end of it there. So Old Git, what about the Euros? Who's your pension money on? :D


not very original germany.. i just think they will grind out the results as they always seem to do ... portugal as my second choice :ball:

[Pike B]

not very original germany.. i just think they will grind out the results as they always seem to do ... portugal as my second choice :ball:
Any tips for player of the tournament? Top scorer? Players to watch?

[old git]

Any tips for player of the tournament? Top scorer? Players to watch?


if i give any tips as player of tournament / top scorer dont back them i usually put the jinx on players ... at the moment would fancy torres / ronaldo and cant remember his name striker plays for lyon to do well but you never know afer a long hard season players may lose a bit of their game ... :ball:

[Pike B]

if i give any tips as player of tournament / top scorer dont back them i usually put the jinx on players ... at the moment would fancy torres / ronaldo and cant remember his name striker plays for lyon to do well but you never know afer a long hard season players may lose a bit of their game ... :ball:
Benzema. Ya,fair point. Fatigue will play a part.

[old git]

Benzema. Ya,fair point. Fatigue will play a part.


cheers thats the worst with old age my memory keeps going :D:D

[Pike B]

cheers thats the worst with old age my memory keeps going :D:D
Have a lie down. You've earned it :D

[hoops12]

if i give any tips as player of tournament / top scorer dont back them i usually put the jinx on players ... at the moment would fancy torres / ronaldo and cant remember his name striker plays for lyon to do well but you never know afer a long hard season players may lose a bit of their game ... :ball:

if the dutch have good tournament huntelaar will be a star.the best finisher since van nistlerooy

[abbeyvale]

if the dutch have good tournament huntelaar will be a star.the best finisher since van nistlerooy

The best finisher since Van Nistelrooy???
Is that just to come out of Holland?
Coz if it aint, then your talking rubbish, again.

[hoops12]

The best finisher since Van Nistelrooy???
Is that just to come out of Holland?
Coz if it aint, then your talking rubbish, again.


well since it was holland i was on about what do you reckon,

[Pike B]

The best finisher since Van Nistelrooy???
Is that just to come out of Holland?
Coz if it aint, then your talking rubbish, again.
Who is the best finisher going into this tournament then? Huntelaar, V. Nistellrooy, Podolski, Klose, Toni, Henry, Anelka, Mutu, Nuno Gomes, Koller,?

[abbeyvale]

Who is the best finisher going into this tournament then? Huntelaar, V. Nistellrooy, Podolski, Klose, Toni, Henry, Anelka, Mutu, Nuno Gomes, Koller,?

Can't beleive you left out one of your favourites??? Torres
Or what about Benzema, Villa

[hoops12]

Who is the best finisher going into this tournament then? Huntelaar, V. Nistellrooy, Podolski, Klose, Toni, Henry, Anelka, Mutu, Nuno Gomes, Koller,?


your forgetting the small matter of torres,and when your talking bout finishers raul has to be one of the all time greats.and is laarson still playing with the swedes another clinical finisher

[Pike B]

Didn't mention Torres on purpose lads. Wanted to see if a United man would bring him up.. And low and behold abbeyvale, you did ;). My question answered :D

[Pike B]

On another thread they are discussing the French squad and who might be left out. They have incredible options at the moment, but my 11 would be :
1
Coupet
2 3
Sagna Clichy
4 5
Thuram Gallas
6
Viera
7 11
Ribery Nasri
8
Benzema

9 10
Anelka Henry

[abbeyvale]

On another thread they are discussing the French squad and who might be left out. They have incredible options at the moment, but my 11 would be :
1
Coupet
2 3
Sagna Clichy
4 5
Thuram Gallas
6
Viera
7 11
Ribery Nasri
8
Benzema

9 10
Anelka Henry

I think Abidal (Barca) & Makalele (Chel) are def starters, and maybe Mexes (Roma) & Toulalon (Lyon)

[Pike B]

I think Abidal (Barca) & Makalele (Chel) are def starters, and maybe Mexes (Roma) & Toulalon (Lyon)
Mexes?? Not likely. Abidal will start alright, but the 11 I named would be something to watch. Can't see them being so attacking though. Pity. Nobody really just goes for it in football these days. Too defensive.

[hoops12]

Mexes?? Not likely. Abidal will start alright, but the 11 I named would be something to watch. Can't see them being so attacking though. Pity. Nobody really just goes for it in football these days. Too defensive.


lads is that guy dorhasoo [think thats how you spell it]not around the french squad anymore.i saw him against ireland bout 2 years ago in lansdowne and he was awesome

[abbeyvale]

lads is that guy dorhasoo [think thats how you spell it]not around the french squad anymore.i saw him against ireland bout 2 years ago in lansdowne and he was awesome

Gone past it, and not doing it on a regular basis.

[hoops12]

Gone past it, and not doing it on a regular basis.

who,s he playing with

[abbeyvale]

who,s he playing with

See factfile below

Date of birth October 10, 1973 (age 34)
Place of birth Harfleur, France
Height 1.68 m (5 ft 6 in)
Playing position Midfielder


1993-1998 Le Havre App 137 (Goals 4)
1998-2001 Lyon 93 (5)
2001-2002 Bordeaux 28 (1)
2002-2004 Lyon 68 (6)
2004-2005 Milan 12 (0)
2005-2006 Paris St-Germain 34 (0)
2007 Livorno 0 (0)


National team
1999–2006 France 18 (1)


Retired from all football on 11th January 2008.

[Pike B]

See factfile below

Date of birth October 10, 1973 (age 34)
Place of birth Harfleur, France
Height 1.68 m (5 ft 6 in)
Playing position Midfielder


1993-1998 Le Havre App 137 (Goals 4)
1998-2001 Lyon 93 (5)
2001-2002 Bordeaux 28 (1)
2002-2004 Lyon 68 (6)
2004-2005 Milan 12 (0)
2005-2006 Paris St-Germain 34 (0)
2007 Livorno 0 (0)


National team
1999–2006 France 18 (1)


Retired from all football on 11th January 2008.
Never rated him.

[Pike B]

Good website for this competition lads.http://www.euro2008comp.co.uk/

[hoops12]

See factfile below

Date of birth October 10, 1973 (age 34)
Place of birth Harfleur, France
Height 1.68 m (5 ft 6 in)
Playing position Midfielder


1993-1998 Le Havre App 137 (Goals 4)
1998-2001 Lyon 93 (5)
2001-2002 Bordeaux 28 (1)
2002-2004 Lyon 68 (6)
2004-2005 Milan 12 (0)
2005-2006 Paris St-Germain 34 (0)
2007 Livorno 0 (0)


National team
1999–2006 France 18 (1)


Retired from all football on 11th January 2008.

cheers alan ,

[Pike B]

From Uefa.com.

Germany's Bernd Schneider will definitely miss Germany's UEFA EURO 2008™ campaign after undergoing surgery on a herniated disc in his back last week.
Absence confirmed
The Bayer 04 Leverkusen midfielder was originally rated as doubtful for the tournament after the operation in Hanover on 25 April. Today, however, Germany coach Joachim Löw received final confirmation of the 34-year-old's unavailability, when he was informed that Schneider has been told not to resume training for the foreseeable future.

[Pike B]

From uefa.com
http://www.euro2008.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/EURO/66/52/97/665297_w2.jpg
Luka Modrić has earned comparisons with Johan Cruyff



The reasons why Tottenham Hotspur FC were in such a hurry to spend €21m on Croatia midfielder Luka Modrić will become clear at UEFA EURO 2008™. That is the message from Modrić's national-team coach Slaven Bilić who has no doubts about the quality of the 22-year-old from NK Dinamo Zagreb.
Cruyff comparison
Modrić and company also helped to eliminate England from the EURO, so Tottenham Hotspur fans will not be completely incredulous of the comparisons their recruit has earned with both Lionel Messi and Johan Cruyff. Increasingly, he has been likened to Cruyff, whom he resembles both in frame – being of slim build – and in speed, agility and creativity, as master of the pinpoint pass. And if Modrić could become NK Zrinjski's star player in the Bosnia-Herzegovnian top flight as an 18-year-old loanee in 2003/04, Bilić will be expecting a similar impact from his protégé in north London and beyond.

High praise for new Spurs recruit.

[abbeyvale]

seedorf out of dutch squad for euro 08......big loss for them

[Dirk Diggler]

what are the odds for winning the competition? Also anyone have a list of odds to finish top scorer in the competition?

[lionelhutz]

what are the odds for winning the competition? Also anyone have a list of odds to finish top scorer in the competition?

Go to world football forum. There's a full list of odds for winning the competition and top goalscorer on page four of the Euro 2008 thread there

[Pike B]

no one seems to be mentioning the russians could be dark horses, great coach and some gifted players that will shine on the big stage. just look at zenit st petersburg, personally though cant see beyond germany
Sticky group for the Russians mate. Spain Sweden and Euro Champs Greece. I don't see them getting out of that group to be honest. Spain and Greece for me there.

[Pike B]

My tips for tournament.
Germany to win 5/1
Torres top scorer 14/1
Greece to win group D 4/1
Germany France final ???

[Raúl Madrid]

Spain named a very peculiar squad today. There are 5 uncapped players (Palop, Fernando Navarro, Ruben De la Red, Santi Cazorla and Sergio Garcia), and no room was found for the likes of Joaquin, Guti, Raul etc.

Obviously, some of these players have been out of the reckoning for a while, but it still looks like an unnecessarily weak selection from Aragones.

If Spain picked the right squad, and got a couple of breaks, it would take a pretty good team to beat them ...

[jmurphyc]

Ruben De La Red and Sergio Garcia are meant to be excellent talents. However, it's odd that they picked so many inexperienced players and didn't include Bojan.

The Russians have got a decent side from what I've heard, but I read in World Soccer that they they feel the lack of a quality defensive midfielder could cost them. One of their best players (probably their best) Arshavin is suspended for the first two games as well. They play Sweden in the final group game.

I think France could do well, provided they play the right players. I don't really like Domenech as a coach at all, but they have some fantastic players and this could put them in contention. However, they seem to be sticking with the old guard which may cost them IMO.

[Raúl Madrid]

Ruben De La Red and Sergio Garcia are meant to be excellent talents

Well, De la Red was farmed out by Real Madrid to Getafe this season, on the basis that he wouldn't be able to dislodge midfielders like Guti, who Aragones has never thought good enough to select in a squad ...

Sergio Garcia is basically a journeyman professional, not good enough to make it at Barca and basically drifting around the lower reaches of La Liga. He's had a good couple of months, but hasn't done that much for a Zaragoza team that might still be relegated tomorrow night


However, it's odd that they picked so many inexperienced players and didn't include Bojan.

Bojan himself opted out of contention for a place in the squad. He had talks earlier this week and declared himself 'mentally and physically shattered' after a tough season.

It's ironic that Aragones would rather pick a 17-year-old who has basically done nothing yet in his career (Bojan) and then announces he is too tired to play ...

...whereas Raul, a 30-year-old legend and Spain's/the Champions League all-time top scorer who has captained his side to two La Liga titles in succession, is in great form (23 goals this season) and is desperate to play, gets ignored:confused:

[see's it]

cant believe Raul isnt in the squad he has just had his best season in years

[Blue-Army]

I think Germany will win it.....and I think Russia could cause an upset or two...

[Pike B]

Trezeguet out of France squad, as well Clichy Sagna. Domenech has some options. France to make final for me. Pipped by Ze Germans.

[pearse4t3]

I reckon the dutch have a great chance of winning the Euros, Seedorf isnt as big a loss as it would have been a few years ago, creates a bit to much hassle then his worth imo.

[Pike B]

I reckon the dutch have a great chance of winning the Euros, Seedorf isnt as big a loss as it would have been a few years ago, creates a bit to much hassle then his worth imo.
Have to disagree. I was never Seedorf's biggest fan, but you have to respect the man's record. And his form as he has got older is superb. I think in a young Dutch side he would have been a big plus. But I do think Holland will get to quarters, where they will lose to Spain.

[pearse4t3]

Have to disagree. I was never Seedorf's biggest fan, but you have to respect the man's record. And his form as he has got older is superb. I think in a young Dutch side he would have been a big plus. But I do think Holland will get to quarters, where they will lose to Spain.

Yeah fair enough,but i dont think he has the right mentality to help those younger players.
I think that Spains main problem is there manager, there is absolutely no doubt that Spain have the players,but Aragones is always prone to making bad decisions,either tactical or team selection.

[Pike B]

Yeah fair enough,but i dont think he has the right mentality to help those younger players.
I think that Spains main problem is there manager, there is absolutely no doubt that Spain have the players,but Aragones is always prone to making bad decisions,either tactical or team selection.
I hear you there. Arragones is a dinosaur and a racist. Only in Spain could a man like that prosper. But they are so strong now, I can't see even him stopping them reaching the semi. Where France will break their hearts yet again.

[Pike B]

Swiss full back Philipp Degen is to sign for Liverpool after Euro 2008 tournament. He is currently at Borussia Dortmund.

[Pike B]

Running a comp out here in work, and the general consensus seems to be Spain Portugal final.

[hoops12]

Running a comp out here in work, and the general consensus seems to be Spain Portugal final.


do,nt rule out the dutch,huntelaar and babel to shine,is van nistleroy fit and van persie fit,also i expect robben to have a huge tournament

[abbeyvale]

do,nt rule out the dutch,huntelaar and babel to shine,is van nistleroy fit and van persie fit,also i expect robben to have a huge tournament

Van Nistelrooy is fit, not sure about Van Persie though,

I agree, I think the Dutch will take some stopping, as well as the above names, you also have Drenthe, Schneider, Van Der Vaart, all playing well this season.

[Pike B]

Van Nistelrooy is fit, not sure about Van Persie though,

I agree, I think the Dutch will take some stopping, as well as the above names, you also have Drenthe, Schneider, Van Der Vaart, all playing well this season.
Drenthe?????? Hasn't got a sniff with Real this season. Didn't make the squad.

I do think that they will get out of the group along with France. But I see them meeting Spain in quarter final's and don't give them much hope there.