Damien Delaney [Archive] - Page 5

jbyrne

21/08/2015, 7:45 AM

Tbf, Mick and Trap both went bad, which is why the public turned on them, rightly IMO.

so the previous achievements of both should have simply been forgotten about when things went a little sour?
such a fickle attitude and there is nothing "Tbf" about it at all. both deserved far better ends to their reigns than they got given what they both achieved with us.

Stuttgart88

21/08/2015, 9:46 AM

What was unfair about the end of Trap's tenure? Mick's was cut short, two games after a World Cup last 16. Trap had run his natural course, as had Jack, for example. Trap also left himself very open to accusations he was on a well paid sinecure and wasn't working hard enough.

DeLorean

21/08/2015, 10:09 AM

I think Mick had to go as well, there was just too much bad feeling at the time, coupled with a disastrous start to a rare campaign where we were actually top seeds. We were practically out of contention after those two games. The whole thing was unfortunate and highly regrettable but I don't really think there was any way back for him overall. We performed very well at the WC, probably through togetherness and adrenaline as much as our obvious talent, but once the dust settled the country was still divided and I think he was p!ssing against the wind a bit. It might have been a bit unfair but he played his part in not managing an admittedly 'tricky' situation.

jbyrne

21/08/2015, 12:08 PM

tricky_colour

29/08/2015, 9:45 PM

Showered with praise on MOTD, but as is the case with any player who is playing really well he won't be playing for Ireland.

jbyrne

29/08/2015, 9:54 PM

Showered with praise on MOTD, but as is the case with any player who is playing really well he won't be playing for Ireland.

his own decision though

tricky_colour

29/08/2015, 9:57 PM

Delaney released this statement through his Instagram account.

So what does that mean?

He is basically saying I won't be playing for Ireland as I am concentrating on my club career, but I do have some concerns about
the the team which I can't be bothered t play for an how it is set up.

So what is is really saying here? That he might consider playing under different management or that he won't
play even if Simon Cowell was manager?

tricky_colour

29/08/2015, 9:58 PM

his own decision though

Indeed, it always is the player who will not play rare that he is not selected.

seanfhear

30/08/2015, 5:31 AM

Ol� Ol�

30/08/2015, 8:14 AM

It is interesting to ponder on why Damian Delaney has so few Irish caps under different Irish managers.

He is the kinda guy that just does a very good job for some managers even at club level, and then other managers do not seem to have the same faith in him.

But prior to his time at Palace, was he not just a very ordinary, Championship-level fullback? That's where he earned any of his caps for Ireland.

I would admit that he should be in the frame in more recent years, following his rejuvenation, but himself and John O'Shea at the back might not be ideal so his starting opportunities would have been limited.

It's disappointing he hasn't been utilised though. He's done well every time I've watched him for Palace.

seanfhear

30/08/2015, 12:52 PM

I'd say he lacked that bit of pace for fullback at international level. I think centre back would be his best position and I believe thats where Crystal Palace have got the best out of him.

I think Peter Taylor got the best out of him at another club (was it Hull) when he was a lot younger.

Particularly earlier in his career he seems to have been one of these players that certain managers could get him to do well and other managers couldn't.

IT seems as he has matured he has grown in to a player that now can do it consistently.

He should certainly be an example of where perseverance and hard work can get you to a very high level indeed.

Ol� Ol�

30/08/2015, 1:17 PM

He should certainly be an example of where perseverance and hard work can get you to a very high level indeed.

I can attest to this first hand. I saw him during his summer break in a gym in Cork (a few days before we played Scotland in fact). He must have spent 30 minutes on a spinning bike, followed by 30 mins on a treadmill. At a very high pace on both. He was absolutely covered in sweat but his conditioning was unbelievable. I don't think you could find a pick of fat anywhere on him, from what I could see anyway.

tricky_colour

30/08/2015, 11:29 PM

Hear some palace fans on a radio phone in (5 live) saying he was "immense".

OwlsFan

31/08/2015, 12:14 PM

One of the heroes of the week in the Daily Telegraph. I think MON and Co are getting off fairly lightly with their treatment of JD. I would imagine a certain native of Cusano Milanino would be getting it in spades from the media and fans alike if he was alienating players like this.

DeLorean

31/08/2015, 1:08 PM

Is he not alienating himself by saying he'd prefer to focus on his club career?

tricky_colour

31/08/2015, 3:19 PM

Is he not alienating himself by saying he'd prefer to focus on his club career?

Yes seems six of one half a dozen of another I don't thin he wants to play anyway but the statements he have been rather confusing and cryptic.

DeLorean

31/08/2015, 4:11 PM

Stuttgart88

31/08/2015, 4:29 PM

Jeez, if he was to drop everyone who "wasn't very good" in that or any other game we'd have nobody left!

It's true he was pretty poor in that game alright. I think it's also fair to assume that there is no mutual connection to say the least, so for the sake of squad atmosphere it's probably best. Delaney doesn't strike me as the precious type. He is from Cork though.

DeLorean

31/08/2015, 4:37 PM

Jeez, if he was to drop everyone who "wasn't very good" in that or any other game we'd have nobody left!

That was just an aside really, but if he had been outstanding maybe there would have been a bigger will to keep him on board.

geysir

31/08/2015, 5:42 PM

He didn't like the fact that O'Neill claimed he was demanding a starting place. Ultimately though, even if that was a complete fabrication on O'Neill's part, Delaney has still made it clear that he would prefer to focus on his club career. It's not as if O'Neill has just ignored his existence, he started him against Turkey little over a year ago and Delaney wasn't very good as it happens.
After the turkey game
"I spoke to Martin O Neill and contrary to his recent comments, I never asked for a regular starting position."I did, however, disagree with certain aspects which out of respect to Martin and the national team will remain private."
That does sound a bit precious to me and I'd have little doubt that he would have been capped a number of times had he been determined to play and not put all his chips on those certain aspects which he had a disagreement with. At a guess I'd say the disagreement possibly had to do with making himself available for friendlies eg USA trip.

tricky_colour

31/08/2015, 9:57 PM

After the turkey game
"I spoke to Martin O Neill and contrary to his recent comments, I never asked for a regular starting position."I did, however, disagree with certain aspects which out of respect to Martin and the national team will remain private."
That does sound a bit precious to me and I'd have little doubt that he would have been capped a number of times had he been determined to play and not put all his chips on those certain aspects which he had a disagreement with. At a guess I'd say the disagreement possibly had to do with making himself available for friendlies eg USA trip.

Yes that is a bafflingly cryptic statement to me, especially when Trapatoni was mentioned in other talk, I mean wtf the does it have to do with Trap?

Anyhow one thing is clear and that is that he won't be playing for Ireland which seems to be the norm these days.

Anyhow both Paul McShane and Kieran Clark are higher than him in the stats so far this season

Stuttgart88

01/09/2015, 8:59 AM

Nothing cryptic in O'Neill's version of events here

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/sideshows-wont-distract-martin-oneill-from-serious-business-at-hand-31492439.html

DeLorean

01/09/2015, 9:18 AM

For a guy who said he isn't going there.... he really went there.

tricky_colour

03/09/2015, 1:14 AM

Yes that is a bafflingly cryptic statement to me, especially when Trapatoni was mentioned in other talk, I mean wtf the does it have to do with Trap?

Anyhow one thing is clear and that is that he won't be playing for Ireland which seems to be the norm these days.

Anyhow both Paul McShane and Kieran Clark are higher than him in the stats so far this season

Clear as muck.

Long winded way of saying he won't be playing for Ireland, perhaps.

Maybe he might reconsider his position if Palace drop him.

So basically O Neil can't guarantee Delaney won't be playing.

Damien: "Can you guarantee me you won't select me?".

Martin: "No I can't, I might select you".

Damien: "Well **** you then!!"

Martin: "Well **** you too, anyhow we won't need defenders when Grealish signs anyway."

Roy: "Calm down lads!!".

Stuttgart88

19/10/2015, 4:29 PM

the42.ie saying Delaney should be called up in O'Shea's absence, especially with Clark and Wilson injured or not playing. Fair call, though I don't think Delaney has been starting recently himself.

Which makes it obvious: St Ledger has to start!

DeLorean

19/10/2015, 4:55 PM

Which makes it obvious: St Ledger has to start!

I doubt he'll going running to Delaney really. The way I see it we have two options:

McShane and Keogh to run the show

or

Keogh and McShane to give them pain

I'm scared.

Charlie Darwin

20/10/2015, 1:39 AM

I wouldn't mind Delaney being called up but the media campaign is getting weird at this point. He's an OK player but he's no Stephen Ireland.

DeLorean

20/10/2015, 9:17 AM

Wilson and Keogh have both played a decent few games in this campaign so I presume O'Neill will just go with them. If Fantasy Football is anything to go by (!), Ciaran Clark should be available for the weekend. The way Aston Villa have played since he's been dropped/injured he can't be far off getting back in the team either. I'd be happy enough with Wilson/Clark I think. That's probably our most obvious long term partnership post-JOSH anyway.

geysir

20/10/2015, 9:00 PM

McShane's the man to bring Dzeko down to size.

Stuttgart88

21/10/2015, 2:59 PM

I'm seeing Egan and Duffy as our long term solution. Mick would have capped them in 1996!

OwlsFan

21/10/2015, 5:51 PM

I'm seeing Egan and Duffy as our long term solution. Mick would have capped them in 1996!

Repeating what you said back in February 2014 in the Mark O'Brien thread :)

Stuttgart88

21/10/2015, 9:01 PM

Did I say that? Did I mention Owen Garvan too? :)

OwlsFan

22/10/2015, 12:24 PM

Did I say that? Did I mention Owen Garvan too? :)

Whatever happened to him ? Do you still send him fan mail ? :)-

geysir

22/10/2015, 9:58 PM

Did I say that? Did I mention Owen Garvan too? :)

Consider it an honour that someone remembers what you wrote in a post some 18 months ago.

Closed Account

28/10/2015, 8:48 PM

https://streamable.com/rd4r

DeLorean

21/02/2016, 2:27 PM

Pardew and Scott Dann have suggested that Delaney would be open to a return. I'm not sure if an approach from O'Neill is too likely though or how well it would go down if there is one. This is the link (http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1670465.ece) but a subscription is required to read more.

And Dann's comments...

I’m sure deep down he would want to play at the Euros. He’s playing week in, week out, in the Premier League and he is playing well. He’s good enough to play for Ireland, he’s shown that. If he was asked the question, I know what the answer would be.

seanfhear

21/02/2016, 6:07 PM

Unless players that were in the squad get injured why would a guy that did not want to be in the squad during qualifying get to go to the Euros before players that turned up for qualifying squads !

There must have been an easier way to say that !

Irish_Praha

21/02/2016, 7:11 PM

There must have been an easier way to say that !

Yes.

He can phuck awf.

;)

seanfhear

22/02/2016, 8:35 AM

Yes.

He can phuck awf.

;)Thats succinct and true:D

seanfhear

24/02/2016, 9:02 AM

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/0223/770219-damien-delaney-ireland-martin-oneill/

I wouldn't consider that the biggest invitation that Damian has ever had.

Its kind of, if we are stuck and you really really want to be in the squad(and possibly play) then we may consider you.

Anyway maybe both parties involved see it otherwise.

Stuttgart88

24/02/2016, 11:49 AM

Funny, I was only thinking at the weekend that I wouldn't be surprised if Delaney got called up, especially if Wilson doesn't. Paul O'Shea's recent post on Duffy probably made O'Neill's mind up.

TheOneWhoKnocks

25/02/2016, 12:29 AM

Keogh and Clark have done well but Wilson and Clark aren't playing. Then you have to consider McShane doing well at Reading. Think he will only be considered should O'shea get injured.

Fixer82

26/02/2016, 10:55 AM

Delaney will get in if there are some injuries but other than that I think O'Neill will stick with players who got him there. I think he'll leapfrog players like Alex Pearce who didn't get a run though

DeLorean

07/03/2016, 9:43 AM

What are people's views on this? It seems to have divided opinion. Why, I don't know... seems a clear penalty to me (and I'm anything but a Liverpool well wisher).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RsmZ8roVIY

jbyrne

07/03/2016, 9:52 AM

minimal contact if any. very soft penalty

osarusan

07/03/2016, 10:16 AM

There is clear contact from Delaney's knee on Benteke's left foot.

I would think it is very doubtful that the contact caused Benteke to fall to the ground or even impeded him in any way, but maybe he should get the benefit of the doubt.

DeLorean

07/03/2016, 10:25 AM

I think Delaney is unlucky because he doesn't really mean it, he pulls out of the tackle but (clearly) catches him accidentally with his knee. That's just tough luck though I'm afraid and Benteke has every entitlement to go down. That's how I'd see it anyway.

jbyrne

07/03/2016, 11:35 AM

Benteke has every entitlement to go down

surely a foul is committed due to another players direct action that causes a player to go down? if delaneys action isn't what actually caused benteke to collapse to the ground then no foul in my book. I don't understand the concept of "entitlement to go down". you are either tripped or you're not

DeLorean

07/03/2016, 11:42 AM

Delaney goes to ground, gets nowhere near the ball and very clearly clips Benteke's foot. I'm not sure how you can use the words "if any" in relation to the contact, it's there for all to see in the second angle above. Could Benteke have stayed on his feet? Maybe, but then he probably wouldn't get a penalty despite being fouled, that's where the entitlement comes from I think. I don't even think the contact is that minimal to be honest.