2008 attendances

[Knappagh Red]

I would have said about 500 Shams fans and 200 away supporters, a shocking crowd for a cup game

[Candystripe]

Not that it matters, but only 1,500 at Derry V Liffeys Pearse.

[pineapple stu]

3852 on the Cork forum for Cork v Cobh.

920 at Rovers v Galway.

[Battery Rover]

Limerick 37 vs Athlone Town. Official attendance 292

[gufct]

I know our own gates are down because of two factors Cost and our league position but from going to game and watching MNS there seems to be a fall off everywhere and its worrying to see probably all teams bar Cork not being able to attract crowds of 2,000 plus. Im really worried about not only our own future but that of the league in general am I alone in this.

[kingdomkerry]

Update after the weekend. Clubs who give official figures are in bold. 489 (http://community.fingal.ie/SportingFingal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=2) at Fingal v Longford a couple of weeks ago. 2143 at Cork v Rovers per the attendances thread on their forum. 800 mentioned for Dundalk v Fingal; that about right?

Think a few of the gaps have already been posted; going to go back and find them and update this shortly.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,298 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (missing Sligo)
Bray - 1,500 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,429 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD) (missing Drogheda)
Cork - 3,634 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,589 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,986 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 2,320 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD)
Galway - 1,367 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 1,952 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882)
Rovers - 2,005 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,171 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 545 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 450 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,364 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 177 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 516 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 617 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD)
Monaghan - 190 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 971 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 809 (N/A) (missing Waterford)
Waterford - 801 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 1,021 (810)

Premier Division average - 2,042 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 691 (722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,430 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Estimates in but official figures missing -
Harps v Pat's
Harps v Derry
Harps v Rovers
Pat's v Bohs
Fingal v Dundalk

Recent games missing -
Bohs v Sligo
Cobh v Drogheda
Fingal v Waterford

The premier division has an average of over 2,000. If you took UCD out it could probably be alot higher.

[stann]

Pathetic crowd at the Blues-Dundalk game last night, truly pathetic, only about 500 there.
Kind of crowd that makes the people knocking the s**t out of themselves to run the club and do the fundraising wonder what, and exactly who, they're running it for. I don't know how they keep going. That's me done with that side of it after this season anyway. :mad:

[Youths4Ever]

the official attendance for Wexford last night was 470 the PR guys may get back out on the road attendances starting to drop

[JC_GUFC]

About 800 in Tolka last night I'd estimate.

[rambler14]

Cobh vs Drogheda attendence was 1700.

[SPXcyan]

500.. sounds a bit too low! id of guessed around 700 - 800.. main stand had about 300 in it with about 100 dundalk fans.. new stand had about 400 - 500! 500 definately far too low

[CuanaD]

I know this thread is only for the league games, but, I reckon there were around 2500 at the Bohs/Rhyl game - not bad for a 1st round intertoto that everyone expected was a foregone conclusion

[oldyouth]

the official attendance for Wexford last night was 470 the PR guys may get back out on the road attendances starting to drop
The Star had 530 but I think your quoted figure would be nearer the mark

[DmanDmythDledge]

About 800 Sligo-UCD.

[Dalymountrower]

I know this thread is only for the league games, but, I reckon there were around 2500 at the Bohs/Rhyl game - not bad for a 1st round intertoto that everyone expected was a foregone conclusion



Looked about 1800-1900 to me.Not bad given the btutal weather and the Dutch game on TV......(Obligatory dig at Rovers coming up, please look away) Twice as many as Rovers got for their relegation battle on Friday night.

[sonofstan]

I'd go with the lower figure - plenty of empty seats, even in F+G

[CuanaD]

I'd go with the lower figure - plenty of empty seats, even in F+G
I think Jodi takes 3,200
& looked like about 6-700 empty to me (had a good look around both ends of the stand)
plus about 100 Rhyl in the DesKelly
Thats where I came up with the 2500
But I'll have another look when its on MNS ;)



:ball:

[stann]

500.. sounds a bit too low! id of guessed around 700 - 800.. main stand had about 300 in it with about 100 dundalk fans.. new stand had about 400 - 500! 500 definately far too low

The new stand had exactly 186 people in it, they were counted. The official attendance figure was 480.

[bohs til i die]

I think Jodi takes 3,200
& looked like about 6-700 empty to me (had a good look around both ends of the stand)
plus about 100 Rhyl in the DesKelly
Thats where I came up with the 2500
But I'll have another look when its on MNS ;)

:ball:


Jodi holds 2742. Attendance was around 1800-ish mark

[Martinho II]

estimate that there was five hundred at our game.. shels brought a good travellin support of say 100 people..

[higgins]

100 ?
are you joking!!

There was nearly 100 around the ground in the rain!
You need to add those in the stand.

[pineapple stu]

I know our own gates are down because of two factors Cost and our league position but from going to game and watching MNS there seems to be a fall off everywhere and its worrying to see probably all teams bar Cork not being able to attract crowds of 2,000 plus. Im really worried about not only our own future but that of the league in general am I alone in this.
Probably. The crowds were always going to drop as the season went on, and especially as Euro 2008 kicked in. The former has happened every year we've done this thread; the latter happened in the 2006 World Cup. There is no panacea for football in Ireland; crowds under 2000 at Pat's and Drogheda despite recent successes in particular highlight this. We're not on the verge of average crowds of 4000 here. You can be disappointed about it I suppose, but it's the league we're in.


Cobh vs Drogheda attendence was 1700.
Eh? You were playing Cork. :confused:

[Rovers fan]

Eh? You were playing Cork. :confused:

In the list of all the attendances the attendance for cobh-drogheda is missing,that's what he's on about.

[pineapple stu]

I have 1100 in for that one; must have left it in there by mistake. Cheers.

[SPXcyan]

The new stand had exactly 186 people in it, they were counted. The official attendance figure was 480.

thats embarressing...

[Martinho II]

100 ?
are you joking!!

There was nearly 100 around the ground in the rain!
You need to add those in the stand.


i only included people in the ground ..why how many of ye were in the stand???

[LeixlipRed]

There was another 75 to 100 in the stand I'd say.

[TonyD]

Probably. The crowds were always going to drop as the season went on, and especially as Euro 2008 kicked in. The former has happened every year we've done this thread; the latter happened in the 2006 World Cup. There is no panacea for football in Ireland; crowds under 2000 at Pat's and Drogheda despite recent successes in particular highlight this. We're not on the verge of average crowds of 4000 here. You can be disappointed about it I suppose, but it's the league we're in.


Eh? You were playing Cork. :confused:

Sadly this does seem to be the case. It's very frustrating, but it seems to me that crowds were higher ten years ago. You'd wonder what clubs have to do. It certainly gives the lie to the argument that it's about standards. The standard of play, and quality of players in the league has probably never been higher, yet crowds seem to be falling rather than rising. :mad:

[niallsparky]

Sadly this does seem to be the case. It's very frustrating, but it seems to me that crowds were higher ten years ago. You'd wonder what clubs have to do. It certainly gives the lie to the argument that it's about standards. The standard of play, and quality of players in the league has probably never been higher, yet crowds seem to be falling rather than rising. :mad:

I'd say that the increase in Premier League matches on Sky and Setanta could be playing a role. There is usually between 4-6 matches live every weekend now as opposed to maybe 1 in years gone by. They've also increased the showing of Championship, Coca Cola leagues and La Liga. Still, you would hope that there could be a role for both this and EL on a Friday.

[Straightstory]

The ONLY thing that could change the embarrassingly low attendances in this country is the (near miracle) of an Irish team qualifying for the Champions League groups stages. This can't be said enough. It's still an absurdity that Dublin dosen't have a team who can achieve this when you see cities like Eindhoven, Valencia, Prague (eg similarly sized, or even smaller, cities) regularly appearing in the latter stages. But it boils down to the lack of imagination and docile mindset of the typical Irish sports 'fan'. It's been said here a million times - the mindless 'barstooler' with his misplaced allegiances to teams in Britain is the one to blame.

[L37Ultra]

. It's still an absurdity that Dublin dosen't have a team who can achieve this when you see cities like Eindhoven, Valencia, Prague (eg similarly sized, or even smaller, cities) regularly appearing in the latter stages.
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Yes, but those cites you mention only have one or at the most two professinal football clubs where Dublin (similar population) has 6 semi-pro/pro clubs. In those European countries you mention the whole city supports one club but in Ireland there is a small population outside of Dublin and there is 6 clubs in the capital and also as you mentioned the rivalry of the English League, but I think that is just an excuse.

[CuanaD]

Jodi holds 2742. Attendance was around 1800-ish mark

I've just wasted 30 mins counting the heads on the DVD of the highlights - I've counted 1988 - but I know I'm missing some - its hard to see those up the back of the Jodi - so maybe 100 more (?)

Either way you were closer to the actual figure than I was :o

(and the 'official' figure was way off)

[WindmillWarrior]

Drogs Derry - 1,500

[Sam_Heggy]

Horrible crowd on a horrible night in Finn Park last night, id say max there was 1200 and maybe that's being generous :o

[pineapple stu]

Drogs Derry - 1,500
What's your capacity restricted to now? That's a terrible crowd for such a big game.

[sonofstan]

Horrible crowd on a horrible night in Finn Park last night, id say max there was 1200 and maybe that's being generous :o

I thought about 800, but I don't know the place that well - 50 of us at most

[WindmillWarrior]

What's your capacity restricted to now? That's a terrible crowd for such a big game.


I know, brutal.
Restriction is 3,000.

[Schumi]

What's your capacity restricted to now? That's a terrible crowd for such a big game.Was it that big? Drogheda were out of the title chase even before that game.

[pineapple stu]

Football fans are optimistic; a win would have seen Drogs right back in it (in their fans' eyes). One point off them and challenging for the UEFA Cup spots. It was really the last chance to save the season*, and as such arguably a bigger game than usual. Plus I assume Derry brought a decent crowd. Going by the figures here, that's their worst crowd of the season, which is very surprising.

* - watch as they win every game from here to the end now.

[Carlin]

Horrible crowd on a horrible night in Finn Park last night, id say max there was 1200 and maybe that's being generous :o

Would have said around 1000. Around 70-80 Bohs....

[WindmillWarrior]

Football fans are optimistic; a win would have seen Drogs right back in it (in their fans' eyes). One point off them and challenging for the UEFA Cup spots. It was really the last chance to save the season*, and as such arguably a bigger game than usual. Plus I assume Derry brought a decent crowd. Going by the figures here, that's their worst crowd of the season, which is very surprising.

* - watch as they win every game from here to the end now.

Derry brought 200/250 - the best crowd I've seen from them in UP in a long time.
for our crowd I suppose you could blame the mid season break, a lot of people on holidays this time of the year, the euro championships.

[pineapple stu]

Update after last weekend. Clubs who give official figures are in bold.


PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,298 (2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340) (missing Sligo)
Bray - 1,500 (1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cobh - 1,382 (681 FD; 368 FD; 403 FD; 240 FD)
Cork - 3,661 (2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,589 (2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,925 (1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Harps - 2,145 (1,164 FD; 428 FD; 1,347; 1,106 FD)
Galway - 1,367 (2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 1,952 (1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882) (missing Bray)
Rovers - 1,870 (1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 2,000 (1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 545 (663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 450 (670; 421; 316; 291)
Dundalk - 1,393 (1,406; 1,078; 474; 591)
Kildare - 177 (243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 488 (670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 600 (885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD)
Monaghan - 190 (292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 971 (888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 809 (N/A) (missing Kildare and Waterford)
Waterford - 761 (1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 952 (810)

Premier Division average - 2,008 (1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 680 (722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,410 (1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Estimates in but official figures missing -
Pat's v Bohs

Recent games missing -
Fingal v Kildare
Pat's v Bray

[irishultra]

St. Petersburg home to Zenit, play in the Petrovsky stadium. It has a capacity of just over 21,000. Generally the matches didn't sell out. St.Petersburg has a population of over 4 million and Zenit are the only team in the city playing in the top tier of Russian football.

Face it, the EL with Ireland's population hasn't got a chance, unless they did something stupid like having franchises.

Today with Zenit's success and massive investment the crowds have flocked and they are building a 60,000 capacity stadium. So get some rich tycoons into the league and it will succeed.

[smasher]

St. Petersburg home to Zenit, play in the Petrovsky stadium. It has a capacity of just over 21,000. Generally the matches didn't sell out. St.Petersburg has a population of over 4 million and Zenit are the only team in the city playing in the top tier of Russian football.

Face it, the EL with Ireland's population hasn't got a chance, unless they did something stupid like having franchises.

Today with Zenit's success and massive investment the crowds have flocked and they are building a 60,000 capacity stadium. So get some rich tycoons into the league and it will succeed.




Carrick United brought a crowd of over 2,000 to the RSC for the FAI Junior Cup Final which far exceeds anything in First Division and most Premier league attendances

[Sam_Heggy]

Carrick United brought a crowd of over 2,000 to the RSC for the FAI Junior Cup Final which far exceeds anything in First Division and most Premier league attendances

How many do they get for every week league games?

[John83]

Carrick United brought a crowd of over 2,000 to the RSC for the FAI Junior Cup Final which far exceeds anything in First Division and most Premier league attendances
And St Francis got 12000 to an FAI cup final. Meant jack**** when they were in the league.

[holidaysong]

Terrible crowd in Oriel last night (it was stupid having it clashing with the Euro 2008 semi) - only about 500-600.

[Straightstory]

Yes, but those cites you mention only have one or at the most two professinal football clubs where Dublin (similar population) has 6 semi-pro/pro clubs. In those European countries you mention the whole city supports one club but in Ireland there is a small population outside of Dublin and there is 6 clubs in the capital and also as you mentioned the rivalry of the English League, but I think that is just an excuse.

Even if you add up all the attendances of Dublin teams, it's still terrible. I mean, what difference is UCD's '545' going to make?

[pineapple stu]

So get some rich tycoons into the league and it will succeed.
Like at Drogheda and Pat's?

[gufct]

dolers said the crowd for UCD -v- Monaghan was less than 100 cant be true can it:confused: