View Full Version : Liam Miller Transfer listed
Torn-Ado
27/02/2008, 11:27 AM
Keane gets his fellow Corkonian Transfer listed.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14288
Ireland4ever
27/02/2008, 11:40 AM
It wasnt that long ago that he was moaning that Miller wasnt in the Irish squad...and now he goes and tries to get rid of him. If he's good enough for Ireland he's definitely good enough for Sundireland.:D
Claret Murph
27/02/2008, 11:49 AM
It wasnt that long ago that he was moaning that Miller wasnt in the Irish squad...and now he goes and tries to get rid of him. If he's good enough for Ireland he's definitely good enough for Sundireland.:D
TOP REPLY Ireland4ever
That's just what I was thinking also .
finnpark
27/02/2008, 12:03 PM
Keane gets his fellow Corkonian Transfer listed.
http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=14288
Another one for Cork City.
This is effectively the end of his International career.
DeNiro
27/02/2008, 12:05 PM
He should never have left Celtic. Eircom League beckons!
paul_oshea
27/02/2008, 12:05 PM
i was thinking the exact same thing as reply 2 and 3 when i read it, in fact i was going to post it and say the exact same thing as I4E said.
Miller wouldnt get near Cork City's midfield.
Not a hope we'll sign him
ifk101
27/02/2008, 12:17 PM
Strange. Keane and Miller must have fallen out.
Wolfie
27/02/2008, 12:22 PM
He should never have left Celtic.
That will be written on his grave stone.
soccerc
27/02/2008, 12:24 PM
Miller for Pat's?
There, I've said it.................:D
Dr. Ogba
27/02/2008, 12:28 PM
Strange. Keane and Miller must have fallen out.
nah, i'd say that he's just realised what the rest of us knew already that Miller's absolute muck.
would be a good EL signing though. i'd say one of the top clubs should make an audacious loan bid and see what happens. Can't see him being picked up by a Prem club or even a top championship club...
ifk101
27/02/2008, 12:35 PM
nah, i'd say that he's just realised what the rest of us knew already that Miller's absolute muck.
would be a good EL signing though. i'd say one of the top clubs should make an audacious loan bid and see what happens. Can't see him being picked up by a Prem club or even a top championship club...
But why not transfer list him in January like the group of other players Keane transfer listed? Of what I've seen of Miller this season I think he's done alright for Sunderland. He hasn't been speactular by any means but neither has Sunderland. I think he's good enough for a Premiership club like Sunderland so I don't believe he's been transfer-listed on purely sporting grounds.
jmurphyc
27/02/2008, 12:39 PM
He looked like he was doing okay from the few Sunderland games I've seen this season. Sunderland really do have a lot of deadwood in their squad. Perhaps the signing of Andy Reid has made him dispensible. That or perhaps Miller asked to be put on the transfer list as he wasn't getting enough game time.
Dr. Ogba
27/02/2008, 12:47 PM
Yeah i'd say the Andy Reid signing was the final nail in the coffin. Miller just gives away the ball far too much at this level and if I had the choice between Miller and Reid I know who I'd pick (Hint: it wouldn't be Miller)
Poor Student
27/02/2008, 12:49 PM
He should never have left Celtic. Eircom League beckons!
He was very inconsistent for Celtic and never nailed down a first team spot and he was 23 or 24 when he left. There's no guarantee he'd have made it in Glasgow.
drummerboy
27/02/2008, 12:49 PM
Keane placed Murphy on the transfer list before Xmas and Murphy started playing very well and actually scored 2 goals. Perhaps he is trying to get the same response from Miller. It does seem strange although nothing would surprise you with Keane style of management. No consistency whatsoever, chops and changes the team, more comings and goings than Connolly Station.
paul_oshea
27/02/2008, 12:53 PM
drummers, thats because he doesnt know what his best team is, proves he hasn't much of a clue to be honest.
as_i_say
27/02/2008, 1:04 PM
from man u to obscurity in a few years and he's what age? 27? how the mighty have fallen. i actually remarked to a mate that i thought he was really quite good against brazil and sure he has had some good performances for sunderland this year also.
there must be something else to this story. he is good enough for the championship alright but no prem club would touch him.
seanfhear
27/02/2008, 1:06 PM
roy keane has made a lot of mistakes in the transfer market but at least he admits this by trying to move on players that he believes are not trying or are not good enough [mcshane and stokes better improve and bloody quick]
livehead1
27/02/2008, 1:10 PM
Miller wouldnt get near Cork City's midfield.
Not a hope we'll sign him
Tell me your joking that you think he wouldn't get near the Cork midfield... We've seen how past Cork stars have got on in England. You must be deluded?
geysir
27/02/2008, 1:16 PM
The FAI are claiming that there is a conspiracy against Cork-born players.
The Sunderland manager is being accused by the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) chiefs of infecting the Sunderland squad with mediocrity while discriminating against Cork players.
An FAI source claimed
'It definitely doesn't help Liam Miller. If he was (from) further up the country, I'm pretty sure he would be in the Sunderland squad.
'I don't just say these things. There's no doubt in my mind that Liam Miller being from Cork certainly doesn't help him.'
This is very strange, he has been a first team regular for most of the season, got injured in the Brazil game which Keane was complaining about and now hes transfer listed. Very bizarre. More to this than meets the eye...surely.
Maroon 7
27/02/2008, 1:27 PM
What a way to go. Stabbed in the back by a fellow Cork man.
Wolfie
27/02/2008, 1:29 PM
This is very strange, he has been a first team regular for most of the season, got injured in the Brazil game which Keane was complaining about and now hes transfer listed. Very bizarre. More to this than meets the eye...surely.
The truth is out there.................................. cue X Files tune
drummerboy
27/02/2008, 1:49 PM
What a way to go. Stabbed in the back by a fellow Cork man.
Indeed. Shades of Michael Collins and Bean na Blath
dr_peepee
27/02/2008, 1:59 PM
nah, i'd say that he's just realised what the rest of us knew already that Miller's absolute muck.
would be a good EL signing though. i'd say one of the top clubs should make an audacious loan bid and see what happens. Can't see him being picked up by a Prem club or even a top championship club...
You may be right about the premiership but come on?? He got promoted with Sunderland and got to the playoffs with Leeds. A top champiponship club is an option...
back of the net
27/02/2008, 2:02 PM
Another one for Cork City.
This is effectively the end of his International career.
he should never have had an intl career - he is an extremely average player
the irony of keane letting him go is hysterical after all his whining last year
Denis The Red
27/02/2008, 2:11 PM
He should never have left Celtic. Eircom League beckons!
I agree he should never have left Celtic, but to think he's destined for the Eircom league is a little premature.
I'll bet he'll end up at Wolves or Oldham!!!!
Dr. Ogba
27/02/2008, 2:15 PM
You may be right about the premiership but come on?? He got promoted with Sunderland and got to the playoffs with Leeds. A top champiponship club is an option...
was he a regular in that team last season though? Really do think that mid-table Championship is his level. Don't think he's as good as, say, Glenn Whelan, for example...
Over the post
27/02/2008, 2:18 PM
he should never have had an intl career - he is an extremely average player
the irony of keane letting him go is hysterical after all his whining last year
I'd say he's more inconsistent than average. He's the kind of player who seems destined to be yo-yoing between the Premiership and the Championship. There are parallels with the case of Andy Reid in that sense, only Reid's inconsistency and failure to carve out his niche is a result of injuries whereas Miller's is more down to dips in form.
He didn't seem to be doing that badly; when Sunderland played Man Utd at the beginning of the season he was the only member of the Sunderland midfield who looked any way comfortable on the ball, but I suppose they've come on since then and Reid obviously offers a lot more.
Says a lot about Keane's panicky incursions into the transfer market. Fair enough, Miller came in when Sunderland were in the Championship but he signed Harte with a view to playing him in the Premiership!
Miller might benefit from a move to a league without the physical intensity of the Premiership. I could see him getting a game for a team in the lower half of the Spanish first division.
shakermaker1982
27/02/2008, 2:19 PM
I'm sure a Championship club will come in for him on loan. I actually didn't think he was doing too badly this season so I'm assuming they had a bust up!
back of the net
27/02/2008, 2:31 PM
I'd say he's more inconsistent than average. He's the kind of player who seems destined to be yo-yoing between the Premiership and the Championship. There are parallels with the case of Andy Reid in that sense, only Reid's inconsistency and failure to carve out his niche is a result of injuries whereas Miller's is more down to dips in form.
He didn't seem to be doing that badly; when Sunderland played Man Utd at the beginning of the season he was the only member of the Sunderland midfield who looked any way comfortable on the ball, but I suppose they've come on since then and Reid obviously offers a lot more.
Says a lot about Keane's panicky incursions into the transfer market. Fair enough, Miller came in when Sunderland were in the Championship but he signed Harte with a view to playing him in the Premiership!
Miller might benefit from a move to a league without the physical intensity of the Premiership. I could see him getting a game for a team in the lower half of the Spanish first division.
how about ... "he is consistently average" ... would u accept that??
andy reid has skill and talent and if he didnt have weight and injury problems then would never have left the premiership
miller lacks quality and is way out of his league in the premiership .. he is a lower half championship player at best
he is a lower half championship player at best - maybe falkirk in the spl will sign him as it seems they like to sign irish players who never fulfilled their so called "potential"
and as for keane signing ian harte - wtf?? playing harte right back against newcastle still baffles me - why sign him when he was gonna let him go 6mths later - he should have let harte go to wolves if he had no long term plans for him
WoodquayBoy
27/02/2008, 2:56 PM
I am a Roy fan and make o apologies for that, but when you look at the list of players down for transfer, it shows what an amount of absolute turkeys and no-hopers he brought into the club, and would call in to question his manegement credentials
osarusan
27/02/2008, 2:56 PM
What a way to go. Stabbed in the back by a fellow Cork man.
Transfer-listing someone is stabbing them in the back?
dr_peepee
27/02/2008, 3:15 PM
was he a regular in that team last season though? Really do think that mid-table Championship is his level. Don't think he's as good as, say, Glenn Whelan, for example...
He was as regular as any of the outfield players were under Roy Keane, and was a regular in the Leeds side that got to the play offs.. I haven't seen much of whelan to compare them...
jbyrne
27/02/2008, 3:29 PM
I am a Roy fan and make o apologies for that, but when you look at the list of players down for transfer, it shows what an amount of absolute turkeys and no-hopers he brought into the club, and would call in to question his manegement credentials
roy maintains that he cant get decent players into the club as they wont go to sunderland. from what ive heard of the city they probably cant be blamed for that. the fact that all three north east premiership teams constantly struggle these days no matter who is in charge despite millions of pounds being thrown at all 3 possibly backs this up
the jury is still out on roy the manager but i think he should be given the benifit of the doubt for now given his very impressive, all be it in the championship, first year in management last year
carloz
27/02/2008, 3:36 PM
http://www.elevenaside.com/acrossthewater/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=31204
rumours of a bust up. Keane may have had some strange dealings in the transfer market, but he isnt just going to put one of his midfielders that has played the most on the transfer list at the end of february for no reason. Have to laugh that somne people think he will come to the Eircom league
Tell me your joking that you think he wouldn't get near the Cork midfield... We've seen how past Cork stars have got on in England. You must be deluded?
Yes I must be deluded. We all see how past Cork stars like Damien Delaney, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Roy O'Donovan etc have been useless.
Would you put Miller ahead of Joe Gamble as a holding player?
Would you put him ahead of George O'Callaghan as an player in the No. 10 role?
Ahead of Colin Healy as a box to box player?
Ahead of Farrelly or the very promising young Murphy as a bench warmer because if City signed him thats all he'd do. Sit on the bench.
I'm 100% honest when I say that I think Miller would not get near our starting 11
Miller is pretty aveage but he has been one of Sunderlands better player this season and easily good enough for Sunderland, my money is def on a bust up.
cavan_fan
27/02/2008, 4:38 PM
Yes I must be deluded. We all see how past Cork stars like Damien Delaney, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Roy O'Donovan etc have been useless.
Would you put Miller ahead of Joe Gamble as a holding player?
Would you put him ahead of George O'Callaghan as an player in the No. 10 role?
Ahead of Colin Healy as a box to box player?
Ahead of Farrelly or the very promising young Murphy as a bench warmer because if City signed him thats all he'd do. Sit on the bench.
I'm 100% honest when I say that I think Miller would not get near our starting 11
O'Donovan is the very definition of Keane's transfer disasters (well him and Andy Cole). In effect he's bought loads of 1-3 million type players (most of whom he has some personal link with) and now is realising they are not up to it and are effectively worthless. What will he get for Miller, 500 grand? If I was Quinn I'd refuse to let him sign anyone else. What he needs to learn is that you should buy one good player not 4 mediocre ones. I cant believe the Sunderland youth system dcoesnt have people as good as Miller, Cole, Ian Harte or Roy O'Donovan.
ifk101
27/02/2008, 4:42 PM
I cant believe the Sunderland youth system dcoesnt have people as good as Miller, Cole, Ian Harte or Roy O'Donovan.
Either can I! Two Irish internationals, an English international and an Irish U21 international. Every youth system in England must be full with these types of players. But obviously not in Sunderland ....
Ozymandias
27/02/2008, 4:51 PM
O'Donovan is the very definition of Keane's transfer disasters (well him and Andy Cole). In effect he's bought loads of 1-3 million type players (most of whom he has some personal link with) and now is realising they are not up to it and are effectively worthless. What will he get for Miller, 500 grand? If I was Quinn I'd refuse to let him sign anyone else. What he needs to learn is that you should buy one good player not 4 mediocre ones. I cant believe the Sunderland youth system dcoesnt have people as good as Miller, Cole, Ian Harte or Roy O'Donovan.
he got miller on a free...he will now get a fee for him..Miller did well in the championship for them last year..that alone is a good return on a free transfer
Irish_Praha
27/02/2008, 5:16 PM
I agree, the timing of this would suggest that it is some kind of falling out rather than sporting reasons. We can only speculate until Miller has left Sunderland and then goes public with it. I myself would say that it's somehow related to his injury while on international duty. I can't recall that Miller has been injured often and maybe it's a bit frustrating for him and he said something he shouldn't have to Keane. Or Keane was not happy with Millers commitment to trying to recover from his injury and Miller then brought up Saipan and repeated some of McCarthy's accusations :p
Fergie's Son
27/02/2008, 5:27 PM
Yes I must be deluded. We all see how past Cork stars like Damien Delaney, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Roy O'Donovan etc have been useless.
Would you put Miller ahead of Joe Gamble as a holding player?
Would you put him ahead of George O'Callaghan as an player in the No. 10 role?
Ahead of Colin Healy as a box to box player?
Ahead of Farrelly or the very promising young Murphy as a bench warmer because if City signed him thats all he'd do. Sit on the bench.
I'm 100% honest when I say that I think Miller would not get near our starting 11
Yes to all. Better player than any of the current Cork XI. Don't be so myopic.
Yes to all. Better player than any of the current Cork XI. Don't be so myopic.
I'm sure you've based that on seeing all the above players playing in the positions described many times and Miller being better in each of those roles than the City player?
Fair play to ya
eirebhoy
27/02/2008, 6:00 PM
I support Cork City
Ahem...
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=834229&postcount=16
"Maybe when Cork City achieve something, they'll win my support."
rambler14
27/02/2008, 6:04 PM
I thought he was doing well there and aswell I thought the fans loved him.
I'd say he'll go back to Leeds.
SUB of the day
27/02/2008, 6:08 PM
Ahem...
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=834229&postcount=16
"Maybe when Cork City achieve something, they'll win my support."
Pure class eirebhoy.........as a City fan, I think Miller would be competitive for a start, but certainly not a banker.
kingdom hoop
27/02/2008, 6:10 PM
Ahem...
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=834229&postcount=16
"Maybe when Cork City achieve something, they'll win my support."
:D I remember that alright. The funniest thing was City had won the Cup a few days previous to that post!
Come on Ciaran, no need to lie to us. :)
cavan_fan
27/02/2008, 6:19 PM
Either can I! Two Irish internationals, an English international and an Irish U21 international. Every youth system in England must be full with these types of players. But obviously not in Sunderland ....
Oh come on
Harte and Cole may once have been good enough to be internationals but both re well past it, in Cole's case laughably so.
Miller adds nothing to a team and only gets on the Irish team because he was at Celtic and a big prospect.
Finally being an Irish U-21 is a bit like being on the Cavan hurling team, anyone could do it.
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