Ballad of Ronnie Drew

[Risteard]

This man deserves such a better song.
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It's down there with the likes of We're sending our love down the well.
Anyone in disagreement?

Also, are they not leaving the Irish Cancer Society open to loyalty claims from Leonard Cohen re:Hallelujah?

[BohsPartisan]

If Bono paid his taxes I'm sure some of it would go to cancer research.

[Lionel Ritchie]

This man deserves such a better song.

It's down there with the likes of We're sending our love down the well.
Anyone in disagreement?

Also, are they not leaving the Irish Cancer Society open to loyalty claims from Leonard Cohen re:Hallelujah?

I could only manage half of it. Verses aren't bad but the chorus' are very weak. The Hallelujah comparison is a fair cop and all.

[Anto McC]

This man deserves such a better song

Agreed. When you think of the talent amassed there, you know for sure they could have come up with so much better so why did they pick that song.

The comparision to "Sending our love down the well" is brilliant, it's so similar

[TonyD]

Christ :eek: Horrific Stuff. Poor old Ronnie. What did he ever do on any of that lot ?

[Wolfie]

Ronnie deserved much better than this self-indulgent caterwaul.

A woeful dirge. Resembles the sound of a pet shop burning down.

[Donegalred]

...i've only heard it once but it was failry pitiful alright. Did anyone understand what the hell Shane McGowan was saying.

[Wolfie]

...i've only heard it once but it was failry pitiful alright. Did anyone understand what the hell Shane McGowan was saying.

I think it was something along the lines of "This song demeans us all"

[jebus]

Anyone catch them doing this on the Late Late? That constant shame Bono seemed like he was doubled over in pain whilst singing, Shane McGowan still surprises me with his state of living, Sinead O'Connor seemed nervous as usual, and Pat Kenny didn't even know who Kila were from the looks of it. The only thing that made it worthwhile was Ronnie Drew being there himself to show he's fighting hard against the cancer, although Pat nearly ruined that as well by rubbing Drew's head when he said that his hair was starting to grow back.

Someone should tell Bono that saying things like Ronnie Drew is as important as Jimi Hendrix doesn't do anyone any favours either

[anto1208]

Saw that late late and felt sorry for ronnie drew who had to sit through that.

Every story any of the told was like "me and ronnie had 20 pints here" or "he had been drinking all day" Made him sound like an old alco.

Song is rubbish but i hope it raises some money for the cancer research agree though if bono paid his taxes it would raise far more than the song ever will.

[NeilMcD]

Do people honestly believe that Bono is not giving a **** load of money to charities himself. However U2 in the 80s announced that they were giving money to local inner city projects in Dublin and were slaughtered by the press for that. So what they do now is that any money they give to charity is kept in private.

Bono's contribution to charities is far higher than any tax he is avoiding by legally basing his publishing company in Holland.


Terrible song though and Ronnie Drew seemed to like it and Irish people are a cynical bunch as it is and nobody is more cynical that an internet forum poster.

[anto1208]

Do people honestly believe that Bono is not giving a **** load of money to charities himself. However U2 in the 80s announced that they were giving money to local inner city projects in Dublin and were slaughtered by the press for that. So what they do now is that any money they give to charity is kept in private.

Bono's contribution to charities is far higher than any tax he is avoiding by legally basing his publishing company in Holland.


Terrible song though and Ronnie Drew seemed to like it and Irish people are a cynical bunch as it is and nobody is more cynical that an internet forum poster.


I give loads to charity as well and dont bang on about it in the press i could give a whole lot more if i didnt have to pay tax but we need things like hospitals and roads gaurds etc

[McShels]

However bad the song is and it is bad, what was Plank Kenny like pandering to one and all except Shane McGowan on friday? Did you see the look on his face when he started talking to Shane and realised the state he was in so he hotfoots to the nearest person (who was Patsy Watchorn) and says something like 'Hi Kila its great to have you here'

[NeilMcD]

I give loads to charity as well and dont bang on about it in the press i could give a whole lot more if i didnt have to pay tax but we need things like hospitals and roads gaurds etc

Bono does not bang on about giving his money to Charity that is the point I was making. What he bangs on about his structural change and a dropping of debt that prevents countries in Africa from ever helping themselves and always relying on charity. He is using the stupid thing we have which is celebrity for a worthwhile cause but sure the cynics like to slag these things while the press rave over true wasters such as Pete Doherty who is ****ing his life up against a wall.

[jebus]

Bono does not bang on about giving his money to Charity that is the point I was making. What he bangs on about his structural change and a dropping of debt that prevents countries in Africa from ever helping themselves and always relying on charity. He is using the stupid thing we have which is celebrity for a worthwhile cause but sure the cynics like to slag these things while the press rave over true wasters such as Pete Doherty who is ****ing his life up against a wall.

What part of schmoozing with George Bush and his cronies helps Africa?

[NeilMcD]

I am sure if you do a bit a research on the matter you will find out pretty quickly enough.

[jebus]

I am sure if you do a bit a research on the matter you will find out pretty quickly enough.

My conclusion is he is a hypocritcial arsehole who wishes he was American. Case closed

[NeilMcD]

Well thats it keep on closing your mind the same way you have the case closed. I think you are probably afraid to do the research on the matter as it will go against your own pre conceived ideas on the issue. But sure Irish bitterness is alive and well it seems.

[jebus]

Well thats it keep on closing your mind the same way you have the case closed. I think you are probably afraid to do the research on the matter as it will go against your own pre conceived ideas on the issue. But sure Irish bitterness is alive and well it seems.

Yes yes, having dinner with George Bush and his ilk helps the starving children out, I see it clearly now, Bono takes the leftovers from his state dinners and drops them from his private jet over Africa, how could I have been so blind not to see the man's halo?

[NeilMcD]

Grand if you want to engage at that level fair enough but you are on your own. However if you are prepared to actually find the facts on the issue come back to me.

[Billsthoughts]

tax is too high for the top rate so would ya blame him for not paying his tax here?

[NeilMcD]

I actually think its too low and would much rather a Danish type system here but I suppose we dont have the politicians that should be given that much control of our finances so I suppose a low tax rate her is probably better off.

[Billsthoughts]

how is 40 odd per cent low?

[stann]

how is 40 odd per cent low?

Bono probably said once that it was.
Or Glen Hansard.

[jebus]

Grand if you want to engage at that level fair enough but you are on your own. However if you are prepared to actually find the facts on the issue come back to me.

FACT One I'll hit you with, Bono has never once criticised Bush's policy of giving Aids relief money solely to faith based charities

FACT Two, Bono has taken it upon himself to endorse Bush's promises for the masses, whether Bush comes through with his packages seems to be irrelevent to Sir Bono, infact you can find many instance son the internet where Bono praises Bush's commitment to Africa, based on his promises, but never any criticism of Bush when he breaks these promises.

I can see that people might think he's friends with George W. to try and persuade him to do more on the humanitarian front, but I personally think he does it with one eye on the constant pat on the back he recieves from Bush, Oprah and anyone else with a bit of power in America. Plus if he is trying to influence George W. then he has done a pretty poor job of it to be fair, and his continued praise of the man flies in the fact of practically every independent African charities assestments of his office

[NeilMcD]

how is 40 odd per cent low?Well in Scandanavian countries 40 per cent is very low and they would have a much higher rate of tax.

This in turn leads to a much better financed health and transport system.

However I can see the point that we dont trust our politicians enough to give them this control of 60 percent of our income.
FACT One I'll hit you with, Bono has never once criticised Bush's policy of giving Aids relief money solely to faith based charities

FACT Two, Bono has taken it upon himself to endorse Bush's promises for the masses, whether Bush comes through with his packages seems to be irrelevent to Sir Bono, infact you can find many instance son the internet where Bono praises Bush's commitment to Africa, based on his promises, but never any criticism of Bush when he breaks these promises.

I can see that people might think he's friends with George W. to try and persuade him to do more on the humanitarian front, but I personally think he does it with one eye on the constant pat on the back he recieves from Bush, Oprah and anyone else with a bit of power in America. Plus if he is trying to influence George W. then he has done a pretty poor job of it to be fair, and his continued praise of the man flies in the fact of practically every independent African charities assestments of his officeI don't think that having a go at George Bush would achieve anything on this issue. I actually think that Bono has withdrawn his natural instince to criticise Bush on many issues in order that he can achieve some of the things that he has set out to. Bascically I think he is of the view that the greater good is worth much more than his pride or reputation or how people see him in the world. Many people, espcieally Irish people see him as a tosser but I don't think he cares.

Do you actually think he cares about the pat on the back from Bush and Oprah and that is why he would dedicate that amount of time for that.

[anto1208]

FACT One I'll hit you with, Bono has never once criticised Bush's policy of giving Aids relief money solely to faith based charities

FACT Two, Bono has taken it upon himself to endorse Bush's promises for the masses, whether Bush comes through with his packages seems to be irrelevent to Sir Bono, infact you can find many instance son the internet where Bono praises Bush's commitment to Africa, based on his promises, but never any criticism of Bush when he breaks these promises.

I can see that people might think he's friends with George W. to try and persuade him to do more on the humanitarian front, but I personally think he does it with one eye on the constant pat on the back he recieves from Bush, Oprah and anyone else with a bit of power in America. Plus if he is trying to influence George W. then he has done a pretty poor job of it to be fair, and his continued praise of the man flies in the fact of practically every independent African charities assestments of his office


Read a good article about the work Bush has done in Africa 29 mill kids now in school 1.5 mill aids victims now on invitro drugs amoung many other points due to Bush. But sure we have to follow the herd and hate him because of "the war"

[jebus]

I don't think that having a go at George Bush would achieve anything on this issue.

Do you actually think he cares about the pat on the back from Bush and Oprah and that is why he would dedicate that amount of time for that.

Well praising him to the hilt doesn't work, and when you are talking up his efforts as a humanatarian in the same instance as he is commiting severe human rights breaches in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo is insulting to the general public, and grossly misleading to people who actually listen to him. Given that he is an intelligent man I assume he knows he is misleading people and so I assume he does all this for the backslaps and photocalls

[Sam_Heggy]

Read a good article about the work Bush has done in Africa 29 mill kids now in school 1.5 mill aids victims now on invitro drugs amoung many other points due to Bush. But sure we have to follow the herd and hate him because of "the war"

Personally I don't like George Bush because of his father. I mean, how could he not like Homer or Bart Simpson? They would be great neighbours imo.

Anyways, the song is god awful and if you asked some local pub singers in Dublin to come up with a song for Ronnie Drew Im pretty sure they would have written a better song than that tripe.

Oh and Pat Kenny isn't a patch on Gaybo.

[anto1208]

Personally I don't like George Bush because of his father. I mean, how could he not like Homer or Bart Simpson? They would be great neighbours imo.

Anyways, the song is god awful and if you asked some local pub singers in Dublin to come up with a song for Ronnie Drew Im pretty sure they would have written a better song than that tripe.

Oh and Pat Kenny isn't a patch on Gaybo.

Sounds like a listeners song on the Joe duffy show

[Angus]

Never mind any of this chutney - did I see that incubus Keating on the video ?

The insult - we have greats like Bono, Edge, Outspan, Shane and somebody let that Cliff Richard wannabe in the room ?

If he was making the tea, then I will look the other way, but he better not have been allowed to play with the big boys

[Lionel Ritchie]

Sounds like a listeners song on the Joe duffy show

... a review so devastatingly true it ranks up there along the one given to Michaela Strachans SAW produced single, which asserted that not being one of Michaelas parents wouldn't preclude you from enjoying her effort but would most certainly help.

Well observed.

[rambler14]

Does anyone else think that Shane McGowan should be put down? At this stage he's just a national embarrassment.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Does anyone else think that Shane McGowan should be put down? At this stage he's just a national embarrassment.

...do you think anything you don't say? :rolleyes: