Our joke of a Youth System

[rambler14]

From next year all of the Cobh Ramblers U17 and Youth games will be played in a new permanent "home" venue.
I think the new location is an absolute disgrace and an insult to the youth of Cobh.
For a bit of fun i'm not gonna tell ye where for a while and i'm gonna leave it go for a day or two to allow for guess'.
Ye will all be shocked!
It's in County Cork thats all i'm willing to say.

[ramsfan]

is it midleton

[rambler14]

is it midleton

No. Not even close.
When I reveal the answer believe me ye are all gonna be as furious as I am.

[MojoPin]

so why dont you reveal location? ive heard this muted before and being honest where is the alternative venue in cobh?

[rambler14]

so why dont you reveal location? ive heard this muted before and being honest where is the alternative venue in cobh?

I was hoping to build up the anticipation!;)

[MojoPin]

grand so keep your not so secret secret to your chest!

[ramsfan]

oh wise one impart your knowledge to the great unwashed:D

[6yardpunisha]

From next year all of the Cobh Ramblers U17 and Youth games will be played in a new "home" venue.
I think the new location is an absolute disgrace and an insult to the youth of Cobh.
For a bit of fun i'm not gonna tell ye where for a while and i'm gonna leave it go for a day or two to allow for guess'.
Ye will all be shocked!
It's in County Cork thats all i'm willing to say.

omg, how shocked will we all be, please please dont tell us cause the shock might be too much, omg what are we going to do

[rambler14]

Ok I'll spill the beans seeing as ye can't contain yeer excitement

[6yardpunisha]

Ok I'll spill the beans seeing as ye can't contain yeer excitement

dont bother

[rambler14]

dont bother

I'll give it a day so.

[the sub]

Is the first letter B

[ramladies]

i heard pfizers or ballinhassig, going to be the same for us, we'll have to find somewhere else to play our home games

[rambler14]

We have a winner of the pointless competition.

BALLINHASSIG..............35 km from Cobh


The teams currently don't even train in Cobh. They currently train in Pfizers. Not only that there is only about 3 or 4 Cobh players on either team.
It's an absolute joke. I expect the Cobh Ramblers Schoolboy system to fold in the next year or 2. Unless drastic changes are made!
:mad::mad::mad:

[don ramo]

whats wrong with springers pitch. that they have to play elsewhere, plus its not cobh ramblers its springfield ramblers

[MojoPin]

why would you expect them to fold?

[rambler14]

whats wrong with springers pitch. that they have to play elsewhere, plus its not cobh ramblers its springfield ramblers

Springfield Ramblers have use of Pat O'Brien Park. The U-17 and Youth teams have nothing to do with Springfield Ramblers and are known as Cobh Ramblers.
Pat O'Brien Park can't be used as different people control the U-17 and Youth league as opposed to the Cork Schoolboys League controlling U-11's up as far as U-16. I suppose only certain amount of teams can use the one pitch and I doubt Pat O'Brien Park is up to the standards expected by the AUL who control the U-17 and Youth League.

[MojoPin]

I doubt Pat O'Brien Park is up to the standards expected by the AUL who control the U-17 and Youth League.

yet two springfield AUL teams play there? think before you type :rolleyes:

[ramsfan]

god man have you seen some of the tractor tracks the aul play on, pat o brien park is a good enough pitch, what about wanderers i thought nthey were them the lights why cant they strike a deal

[MojoPin]

think ramblers wanted wanerders to pay for the ligths!

[luka]

BALLINHASSIG..............35 km from Cobh

A bit akward to say the least eh!!

[ramblersnb1]

jezz interesting enough i think im cracking up as ive seen the 17s and 18s training in cobh in the past 2 weeks !!! as for there only bein 4 cobh players on the 17 team ..... they have at leat 8 if not more players from cobh .... id say checking facts would be the best thing to do before posting on subjects like this ....

[jfarlo]

how does the youth set up work. who is the current manager. have they won anything recently. just wondering because i was at the recent cobh pirates agm and there set up is very good. all underage coaches are currently working towards there i.r.f.u. coaching badges. the senior squad are involved with underage training sessions. not a bad set-up for a "JUNIOR" club. anyone know?

[6yardpunisha]

what about the schools pitches, both secondary schools have pitches, why arent the underage teams playing on these

[ramblers08]

i played there before good enough pitches but really really to far away for a ''home'' venue.....what about the tec? a couple of games have been played there recently and pay the tec for the use of the pitch then

[outside in]

...what about the tec? a couple of games have been played there recently and pay the tec for the use of the pitch then
as far as i no they only want schoolboys on the pitch.wanderers dont even train there anymore even before they got their lights ,open to correction on that

[outside in]

what about the schools pitches, both secondary schools have pitches, why arent the underage teams playing on these
good point,but the schools play some of their games in springfiend to stop students skiping class to watch them so why not put that to them and see wat they have to say.they might change their mind

[ramsfan]

this club is so frustrating one step forward and twenty steps back, if i was an outsider reading this what i would think of the club is that it is disorganised and chaotic
cmon sort it out

[outside in]

this club is so frustrating one step forward and twenty steps back, if i was an outsider reading this what i would think of the club is that it is disorganised and chaotic
cmon sort it out
all it takes is a call to each school,simple really:o

[ramblers08]

there was also rumours floating around about pitches out in ballymore somewhere dunno if dey were even half true but thats also 2 far away.....they shud of neva got rid of the pitch down in ballyleary

[marty]

lads im sure the school venues have been thought of the bottom line is we just dont have the money to buy pitches and theres not much available anyway,the more time that passes the harder it is going to be to purchase.We need a serious injection of cash or a seperate supporters club for the youth system .one problem alright is local players we need all our teams up to u18s to be local its not going in the right direction we are tryin to build from the top inevitable problems lie ahead.

[eddieohalloran]

We have a winner of the pointless competition.

BALLINHASSIG..............35 km from Cobh


The teams currently don't even train in Cobh. They currently train in Pfizers. Not only that there is only about 3 or 4 Cobh players on either team.
It's an absolute joke. I expect the Cobh Ramblers Schoolboy system to fold in the next year or 2. Unless drastic changes are made!
:mad::mad::mad:

As U17 Manager I can confirm that we have been told to play our "Home" games in Pfizers, Ringaskiddy for the rest of this season. The U17s do, however train in the Colaiste Muire Astroturf every week and NOT in Pfizers as stated. Each player on the U17 squad pays towards the cost of the astroturf. There currently is a squad of 17 players, 10 of which are from Cobh, 6 from Cork and 1 from Youghal, so it is incorrect to say that there are only 3 or 4 from Cobh. The U17 team is self sufficient, the only cost to the club is the hiring of the Pfizers pitch and referees fees.

For a club like Ramblers to survive and compete we must produce and develop our own players so any players who are brought into the club at U17 level must be better than those already there and be potential League of Ireland players. The catch pool of players must be the whole of the Cork area. There are some people of the opinion that we must be winning leagues and cups every year at Youth level. This is not our priority however, all it would be is an added bonus. Our priority is to produce players for the 1st team. We are very confident that the group of players we are working with this year have the potential to step up. We expect some to play with the Reserve Team and others to play with the U20 team this season.

I hope that this clarifies any issues regarding the U17 team.

[bellavistaman]

As U17 Manager I can confirm that we have been told to play our "Home" games in Pfizers, Ringaskiddy for the rest of this season. The U17s do, however train in the Colaiste Muire Astroturf every week and NOT in Pfizers as stated. Each player on the U17 squad pays towards the cost of the astroturf. There currently is a squad of 17 players, 10 of which are from Cobh, 6 from Cork and 1 from Youghal, so it is incorrect to say that there are only 3 or 4 from Cobh. The U17 team is self sufficient, the only cost to the club is the hiring of the Pfizers pitch and referees fees.

For a club like Ramblers to survive and compete we must produce and develop our own players so any players who are brought into the club at U17 level must be better than those already there and be potential League of Ireland players. The catch pool of players must be the whole of the Cork area. There are some people of the opinion that we must be winning leagues and cups every year at Youth level. This is not our priority however, all it would be is an added bonus. Our priority is to produce players for the 1st team. We are very confident that the group of players we are working with this year have the potential to step up. We expect some to play with the Reserve Team and others to play with the U20 team this season.

I hope that this clarifies any issues regarding the U17 team.

Well said eddie.

[outside in]

why do the club pay for the ref,when i was playing every player paid on match day to cover da cost of the ref,seems like an unnessery cost imo

[bellavistaman]

When i was 17s, i never paid a penny towards anything, training, matches, gear, nothing, then again they were paying me to play at the time, :D:D:D, but seriously mojo would be able to back me up on that.

[bellavistaman]

id just like to say you should try to keep the severity of your thread name to a lower level, this sort of thread could have possibly went with, youths playing outside cobh, or something like that.People from other clubs will check this when they see it in last post and will be thinking whos is a joke, and be directed to our page. By god you get in rages lad.

[rambler14]

As U17 Manager I can confirm that we have been told to play our "Home" games in Pfizers, Ringaskiddy for the rest of this season. The U17s do, however train in the Colaiste Muire Astroturf every week and NOT in Pfizers as stated. Each player on the U17 squad pays towards the cost of the astroturf. There currently is a squad of 17 players, 10 of which are from Cobh, 6 from Cork and 1 from Youghal, so it is incorrect to say that there are only 3 or 4 from Cobh. The U17 team is self sufficient, the only cost to the club is the hiring of the Pfizers pitch and referees fees.

For a club like Ramblers to survive and compete we must produce and develop our own players so any players who are brought into the club at U17 level must be better than those already there and be potential League of Ireland players. The catch pool of players must be the whole of the Cork area. There are some people of the opinion that we must be winning leagues and cups every year at Youth level. This is not our priority however, all it would be is an added bonus. Our priority is to produce players for the 1st team. We are very confident that the group of players we are working with this year have the potential to step up. We expect some to play with the Reserve Team and others to play with the U20 team this season.

I hope that this clarifies any issues regarding the U17 team.


If only things could be explained to us as clearly as that all the time.


Question for ya Eddie:
Are you happy that Cobh Ramblers have to play their home games away from Cobh?
I understand where your coming from but surely you can't like the fact that Pfizers is the home pitch of the 17's and Ballinhassig is the home pitch of the youths!

[bellavistaman]

saying that pfizers isnt a bad pitch, and could have been dumped on alot lot lot worse, go on to aul section, match in blarney was called off due to horses on pitch!

[rambler14]

id just like to say you should try to keep the severity of your thread name to a lower level, this sort of thread could have possibly went with, youths playing outside cobh, or something like that.People from other clubs will check this when they see it in last post and will be thinking whos is a joke, and be directed to our page. By god you get in rages lad.

Thats because i'm not happy with the situation. I think it's an absolute farce the situation the Youth System is in. I havn't been happy with it for quite a long time aswell.
It wasn't like this when you were playing 17's bella and it wasn't like this when I played 17's.
I'm dissappointed more than anything because of the drastic change.

[bellavistaman]

this pitch issue goes alot further than just youths, the senior team dont even have a piych to train on, they destroy the pitch by training on it but theres nothing at all we can do, we even asked the town council for help, but i really doubt they'll be giving any.

[6yardpunisha]

Thats because i'm not happy with the situation. I think it's an absolute farce the situation the Youth System is in. I havn't been happy with it for quite a long time aswell.
It wasn't like this when you were playing 17's bella and it wasn't like this when I played 17's.
I'm dissappointed more than anything because of the drastic change.

well get off your a**e and do something about it, the problem has been here for quite a while, petition your local representative(i presume your old enough to vote)to see what he/she can do.Write a letter to newsletter/inside cobh etc highlighting this if you feel that strongly

[bellavistaman]

Write a letter to newsletter/inside cobh etc highlighting this if you feel that strongly

oh dont tempt him ,please dont r14:D

[rambler14]

well get off your a**e and do something about it, the problem has been here for quite a while, petition your local representative(i presume your old enough to vote)to see what he/she can do.Write a letter to newsletter/inside cobh etc highlighting this if you feel that strongly

Yes i'm old enough to vote but even if I wasn't it wouldn't mean sh*t.
The club needs a benefactor not a letter.
I tell ya if I won the lotto in the morning i'd buy the club a pitch where the 17's and Youth team could play and the senior team could train without a problem or bother of wrecking the pitch.

[rambler14]

oh dont tempt him ,please dont r14:D

I have no intention of doing it bella but it'll be worth bringing up at the AGM.

[6yardpunisha]

Yes i'm old enough to vote but even if I wasn't it wouldn't mean sh*t.
The club needs a benefactor not a letter.
I tell ya if I won the lotto in the morning i'd buy the club a pitch where the 17's and Youth team could play and the senior team could train without a problem or bother of wrecking the pitch.

anything to get a game or what

[rambler14]

anything to get a game or what

No i'd be more of a Denis O'Brien sort of donator. I'd want nothing in return.

[6yardpunisha]

No i'd be more of a Denis O'Brien sort of donator. I'd want nothing in return.

very good reply, very topical too, well done R14,just let me quietly get back in my box

[MojoPin]

i played 2 and a half seasons for ramblers under 17s and 18s and i never paid for anything whilst there ever!

[chimpster]

In our Ramblers utopia, we'd have a nice shiny pitch or two somewhere in the town for the underage games to be played on and for first team training.

But we don't. So get used to it, unless you have a spare full-size pitch in your back garden to donate.

Why do so many people feel its their right to come on this forum and slag the club, driving new players/supporters away, when they are doing absolutely nothing themselves to sort the situation out? This club is basically run by volunteers and its up to the club to use the very limited manpower and finances at its disposal to operate all aspects of Cobh Ramblers. Most of the people involved (including Eddie O'H whose post thankfully brought some sanity to this idiotic thread) are giving up their own time to try and give us a club to support and/or play for.

So why the hell do so many so-called supporters devote so much time to sticking the knife in from a distance instead of rolling up their sleeves and getting involved with the club? Its so cowardly and hypocritical. Going into our biggest season ever, we need everyone to rally round the club and get involved, instead of sitting at home scratching their backsides and sending stupid posts to this forum.

To those involved: Cop on lads. :mad:

[blackholesun]

Is the first letter B

Jeez, I thought you were going to say Bishopstown!?

35kms away does seem to be a crazy decision!

bhs