Delaney hits back at Keane.

[OwlsFan]

Don't fall for bill's wind ups. I think he'd be hard pushed to find anyone who supported Delaney's world class appointment. However, miracles do happen and until it is apparent that he hadn't a clue, you have to reserve judgement. I remember many attacking (especially Con Houlihan) Big Jack's appointment.

Most of us support Trappatoni's appointment but that doesn't mean it will all go well and no doubt we'll all start to criticise if it starts to go wrong. However, like every appointment (Giles, Hand, Charlton, McCarthy, Kerr and Staunton) you give them a chance to prove themselves and not join the baying mob before even a ball is kicked.

[Billsthoughts]

Don't fall for bill's wind ups. I think he'd be hard pushed to find anyone who supported Delaney's world class appointment. However, miracles do happen and until it is apparent that he hadn't a clue, you have to reserve judgement.

This was apparent quite early! It was obvious at the Holland match Staunton hadnt got a clue. You reserve judgement if we are trying to do the right things but they arent coming off. You dont if we are being overrun by europes lower tier teams.

Neil if you dont know what a cham is I cant help ya:D.

[Reality Bites]

Delaneys comments at Keane smacked of keeping powder dry till you're in a strong position i.e having just appointed a world class Manager and Keane struggling in the premiership with Sunderland!! Keane is a victim of believing his own press and he has self elevated himself into some sort of a spokesman fo a generation, some of his comments are ridiculous and smack of red-top hyperbole, his comments on Liam Miller not being pick for Ireland Senior squad made me cringe and was in my opinion self serving and aimed at his adoring fanbase in Cork and a headline for the sake of it.

[janeymac]

Delaneys comments at Keane smacked of keeping powder dry till you're in a strong position i.e having just appointed a world class Manager and Keane struggling in the premiership with Sunderland!! Keane is a victim of believing his own press and he has self elevated himself into some sort of a spokesman fo a generation, some of his comments are ridiculous and smack of red-top hyperbole, his comments on Liam Miller not being pick for Ireland Senior squad made me cringe and was in my opinion self serving and aimed at his adoring fanbase in Cork and a headline for the sake of it.


Ya don't get the Cork psychic, do ya?

One thing about whatever Sean Óg, Ronan O'Gara or Roy Keane say (all known to ruffle a few feathers), is that they all genuinely believe what they are saying and I think they are honest. Sometimes they are shocked at people's reaction to them. A lot of people think it is arrogance. I think its that 'edge' that makes them great at sport. And lets face it, Cork really do produce people very good at sport.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Ya don't get the Cork psychic, do ya?

One thing about whatever Sean Óg, Ronan O'Gara or Roy Keane say (all known to ruffle a few feathers), is that they all genuinely believe what they are saying and I think they are honest. Sometimes they are shocked at people's reaction to them. A lot of people think it is arrogance. I think its that 'edge' that makes them great at sport. And lets face it, Cork really do produce people very good at sport.


What's that? a Tarot line? :D ...or does she read the tea-leaves? Cork people love their tea. They love the bitter taste. :p

[Noelys Guitar]

When the article was first published Delaney quoted Givens as having said to him (Delaney) that Keane was deflecting attention away from his performance as Sunderland manager. Why has Givens has been airbrushed out of the article?

[NeilMcD]

This was apparent quite early! It was obvious at the Holland match Staunton hadnt got a clue. You reserve judgement if we are trying to do the right things but they arent coming off. You dont if we are being overrun by europes lower tier teams.

Neil if you dont know what a cham is I cant help ya:D.

Well I know in clare they have shams. I also found this on the web so I am not sure why you may be comparing us to ethnic groups in Asia and Eastern Europe. Maybe we might meet a few chams in Montenegro.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_Albanians

[NeilMcD]

are you for real??? you and owlsfan and that other cham karlosirl were his biggest fans. shows what you collectively know about football.:rolleyes:

Also from reading your posts I would be of the opinion that you are actually one of the least informed people about football on this forum but at the end of the day who cares as there is not great credit to be taking for knowing about football. What makes you think that you know more about football that Owlsfan Karlos and myself or anybody else for that matter.

[Noelys Guitar]

When the article was first published Delaney quoted Givens as having said to him (Delaney) that Keane was deflecting attention away his performance as Sunderland manager. Why has Givens has been airbrushed out of the article?

Taken from the Eircom site. This is the original story.

Delaney repeated the contention, recently put forward by Don Givens, that Keane is using the FAI to deflect from Sunderland's problems.

"He seems to be very good now at deflecting from his own issues and he should get on now with doing his own job. We don't comment on where they in the league. If anything, publicly, we've been supportive of what they've done in regard to Irish players -- so from my perspective now he should just get on with his job."

[Calcio Jack]

Keane is a victim of believing his own press and he has self elevated himself into some sort of a spokesman fo a generation

Well his favorite artist is Bob Dylan... "..once upon a time you played so fine,threw the bums a dime in your prime didn't you..."

[Billsthoughts]

What makes you think that you know more about football that Owlsfan Karlos and myself or anybody else for that matter.

reading your posts my Chamish friend....

[pineapple stu]

However, miracles do happen and until it is apparent that he hadn't a clue, you have to reserve judgement. I remember many attacking (especially Con Houlihan) Big Jack's appointment...However, like every appointment (Giles, Hand, Charlton, McCarthy, Kerr and Staunton) you give them a chance to prove themselves and not join the baying mob before even a ball is kicked.
Are you seriously comparing the appointment of Charlton (a manager with a proven track record) to that of Staunton (a coach at Walsall for a couple of months to get around the wage cap)?!

[geysir]

The main thing that Owls uses as a crucial line of comparison on potential Irish managers is on how well they did do at Sheffield.

[pineapple stu]

Should know better about Charlton then!

[OwlsFan]

Are you seriously comparing the appointment of Charlton (a manager with a proven track record) to that of Staunton (a coach at Walsall for a couple of months to get around the wage cap)?!

No and I wasn't but no matter who was appointed as Ireland manager (assuming they have some football experience except Dunphy) I'd give them a chance, until at least 2 games are played.

Charlton I knew would be a success and I have a copy of the letter I wrote to Con Houlihan (who attacked the appointment) at the time to prove it. Obviously I knew he had done a great job at Wednesday (one of the few) and firmly believed in him just as I believed Jewell would be a disaster from my own experience of him. One can only make judgements on ones own personal experience.

So you're right geyser :D

[newrynyuk]

Okay, own up. Which of yous is responsible for this?:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Delaney_%28football_administrator%29

[Noelys Guitar]

Keane hits back in todays Examiner.
“I think John Delaney — is it John Delaney? — is a great man. He’s come out and said it’s a great appointment and the FAI haven’t even paid for him. If you tell any club or organisation, ‘You can get any manager you want and someone else will pay for it,’ that’s a great job for him isn’t it, chief executive?.

“That’s the FAI. John Delaney said last week, ‘It’s a great move for us.’ Denis O’Brien, who wants to keep it private by telling everyone it’s him (putting up money) — they make you laugh these people.

[Greenforever]

Keane hits back in todays Examiner.
“I think John Delaney — is it John Delaney? — is a great man. He’s come out and said it’s a great appointment and the FAI haven’t even paid for him. If you tell any club or organisation, ‘You can get any manager you want and someone else will pay for it,’ that’s a great job for him isn’t it, chief executive?.

“That’s the FAI. John Delaney said last week, ‘It’s a great move for us.’ Denis O’Brien, who wants to keep it private by telling everyone it’s him (putting up money) — they make you laugh these people.


typical Keane, can't get his facts straight, Deaney never said the FAI never paid for him, and never said O'Brien wanted to keep it private... if only he would shut up about non Sunderland issues and concentrate on his job he could actually be a great manager... am I the only one who thinks that he only shouts his mouth off to deflect attention away from what he is actually paid to do

[seanfhear]

typical Keane, can't get his facts straight, Deaney never said the FAI never paid for him, and never said O'Brien wanted to keep it private... if only he would shut up about non Sunderland issues and concentrate on his job he could actually be a great manager... am I the only one who thinks that he only shouts his mouth off to deflect attention away from what he is actually paid to do
i agree and have noticed that we heard much less from keane last year when results were better for sunderland

[janeymac]

Bit selective there Noely, with your extract from the Examiner:rolleyes:

Full Examiner article here:

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=56050-qqqx=1.asp

According to the Irish Times reporter he was responding to questions asked at a press conference:

"Keane used it yesterday to respond to the two men. Keane was asked a direct question about Dunphy first, and then later brought up Delaney unprovoked after a question regarding the appointment of Giovanni Trapattoni as Steve Staunton's successor as manager of the Republic of Ireland.

[geysir]

Keane replies unprovoked with acerbity towards the FAI. If money solved all problems then wouldn't Sunderland be in the top 6?:rolleyes:
But he was spot on about Dunphy:D

[NeilMcD]

Keane is a victim of believing his own press and he has self elevated himself into some sort of a spokesman fo a generation

Well his favorite artist is Bob Dylan... "..once upon a time you played so fine,threw the bums a dime in your prime didn't you..."

How does that make Keane a victim.

[Billsthoughts]

If the WC 02 qualifiers were his 65-66 years and Saipan was his motorcycle crash......does Keane have a Blood in the Tracks still in him??? Even his critic s would have to say his Dunphy riposte was funny...

[NeilMcD]

Lets hope Time out of Mind is him leading Ireland to the World Cup Finals in 30 years

[lopez]

To be fair there is a geographical disadvantage to a certain extent. A lot of players wont go to Snderland cause it is an aboslute hole of a town. You wouldn't fancy working there if you had the option of London or portsmouth to move to insteadHave you been to Portsmouth? It is Sunderland by la manche. The only advantage is that it might have better weather and be closer to Europe, but I'd rather live in Sunderland. Far nicer people, although as a self centred footballer with a bimbo as a wife, I'd have neither as a home.

[Calcio Jack]

Lets hope Time out of Mind is him leading Ireland to the World Cup Finals in 30 years

Has he not already done enough for the FAI... " gentlemen he said I don't need your organisation, I climed your mountains and marked your cards..." in Saipan they should of caught him in is prime instead of sending him back accoss the sea but I guess it was just a simple twist of fate.

Will take a 'Changing of the guards' in Abbotstown before he'll return