AGM

[rambler14]

Are there any changes to the ticket prices? What are the season tickets gonna cost?

Also it's great to see that RTE are doing a special on Rams for the Harps match.

[ramsfan]

it is not fair to start naming names and stuff, members are entitled to there opinion just like you or me , whether he was wrong or right not for me to judge but every person still has right to voice there opinion

[ramsfan]

season ticket

adult 250
family 350
student 200
oap 100

[rambler14]

it is not fair to start naming names and stuff, members are entitled to there opinion just like you or me , whether he was wrong or right not for me to judge but every person still has right to voice there opinion

Fixed


season ticket

adult 250
family 350
student 200
oap 100

Cheers.
The student seems a little dear. R u sure it's €200? I was told it gonna be €100. It's only a fiver to get in and if there is only 17 games then it looks as if it'll be cheaper to not get one.

[ramsfan]

typo on season ticket should read 100 for student, sorry:o

[The Rebel Ram]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram
That was my first AGM, I've been working the past few years and never got to make it. All the rumours are true, same old faces, same old complaints.

It was sickining to think this is a club, my club.
The amount of snyde remarks and personal undercutting was shameful. And it came from both sides of the table. One committee member stated that the best way to affect change was from the inside. I agree that this is the best way to affect change.
Yet there was the same group constantly undermining the committee at every opertunity last night!
This as far as I can see is not just two fingers to the comittee but also two fingers to the members, as they elected in the comittee.
They voiced their opinions saying that they wouldn't run for the comittee because they wouldn't want to take over the mess that is there now!
How do they think they can do anything positive by undermining and side swiping at every opertunity.
I think Hendo made an excellent speach, by bringing in the posters from the dressing room he showed what needs to be done, we need to be unified.
The sooner ALL the members accept the committee of the day and and work with them to the best of their ability instead of trying to cut them down the better. Don't cut them down to your level to overtake them, rise up above them and make it a better club!!!!!!!!!
The club has worrying finincial issues but I don't think they will be detremental with the increased revenue we will make this year. The book keeping was the major issue and this will be sorted.
Congrats also to the excellent work done on getting the main sponsor and the game for the summer.
It is giong to be an excellent year, lets all enjoy it and lets all be one!!!! [QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rambler1;886130]Well said Ramsfan. As your name suggests you are a Rams Fan and probably echo what most Rams Fans out there on the Terrace feel including myself.
Didnt make it this year Thank God, but I imagine it was the same as every other year.ie. the people who do the least were shouting the most....


Jeez, I go to all that bother of writing a long mail and RamsFan gets the credit:rolleyes:

[6yardpunisha]

2.15 it rumbled on til and could of gone on longer, at the end no body gave a crap, it was stupid to have the egm before the agm, as people had lost interest by the time it came to voting etc

the will to live more like it:D

[rambler14]

I have to say I was dissappointed with the way Barry handled things.

-Everytime someone questioned him he gave a smartass answer.

-Anytime an ex-commitee member questioned him they were immediately told "it was worse when you were here".

-Look at this way if the ex-treasurer hadn't stood up and asked to speak to Nigel Hickey about the finance we would all be as wise as ever. Barry was willing to string us along and say the club is in a good situation when the truth was that we had a terrible financial year and we would be going bust if we hadn't have got promoted.




Rebel Ram you are 100% right with what your saying. There seems to be no discipline up there.
That group who were constantly undermining the committee at every opportunity last night should have been told to shut up and let others speak. I mean at one stage they argued with Barry for 10 mins over what number an item was on the Agenda. Grown men and women and their fighting like children in a playground. Like when they lost the first vote of the night they argued for an hour afterwards even though they couldn't change the result. I mean that wasn't even a close vote. It was something like 58 vs 12. But still they wouldn't let it lie.
They had no trouble interrupting people either.
There should be a set of rules that says if you disrupt the meeting, you are given a warning. If you disrupt again you should be asked to leave.

[6yardpunisha]

I have to say I was dissappointed with the way Barry handled things.

-Everytime someone questioned him he gave a smartass answer.

-Anytime an ex-commitee member questioned him they were immediately told "it was worse when you were here".

-Look at this way if yer man Murphy hadn't have stood up and asked to speak to Nigel Hickey about the finance we would all be as wise as ever. Barry was willing to string us along and say the club is in a good situation when the truth was that we had a terrible financial year and we would be going bust if we hadn't have got promoted.

the whole tone of the AGM was agressive from the start, not flying to Barry's defence but you sit up there and have things thrown at you all night for nearly 7 hours, anybody who i saw throwing crap at barry essentially pays their membership each year and then does f**c all else for the club and then complains when accounts are poor, Barry IMO is a doer not a talker(agree he could improve his handling of it). To try and be positive at least the debt made in 2007 is over 50% less than debt made in 2006. All businesses carry debt but the club is now in a position to amake money especially if all the talkers get off their a**es

[MojoPin]

the club is now in a position to amake money especially if all the talkers get off their a**es

how? not being smart but i pay my seaon ticket fee and what should i be expected to do then?

[6yardpunisha]

how? not being smart but i pay my seaon ticket fee and what should i be expected to do then?

get involved in club activities either through SC/Fundraising/promotion, every bit helps but no offence intended to you Mojo, you are a student but the people I am referring to are men actively involved in business or are working, as Hendo said last night, we are a community club and this aspect has been lost by a significant portion of people who attended last night.

[ramblers]

After last years AGM I would not go to another one and did not buy a season ticket as I was not interested in watching the abuse that people take at an AGM as I beleive it is scandolous. I have lost count of the AGM's and EGM's and they have all been the same one side giving out about the other. If people do not figure out this year they are all on the same side then it is doomed to fail. If they pull together there may be a chance of success.

Lets hope they pull togther for the sake of the club!!

[MojoPin]

get involved in club activities either through SC/Fundraising/promotion, every bit helps but no offence intended to you Mojo, you are a student but the people I am referring to are men actively involved in business or are working, as Hendo said last night, we are a community club and this aspect has been lost by a significant portion of people who attended last night.

i get where you are coming from but the club is unique, in that nobody at all pulls together.

[6yardpunisha]

i get where you are coming from but the club is unique, in that nobody at all pulls together.

simple, get more young people involved, IMO most of disruption coming from older generation, FFS arguing for hours over rules that have been governing the club for 50 years etc. Too many barroom lawyers up there

[MojoPin]

you cant argue that the club isn't actively trying to get new young people on board but hte problem is that the young people the are targetting are the kids? there are absolutely of no use to board decisions and the likes! the club needs to actively seek males in the 16-30 age group! easy to make it a sat night thing! few pints in rams game and out! ive said it many times before these are people with the most disposable income ( myself included im a poor student but then again ive no wife kids mortgage) in turn the people in this age group will then become interested in club politics!

just ask don ramo, rambler 14, ramsontour, bella or myself what have the club done for us lately? im not interested in clowns and blow up baloons id rather a free pint at every home game or a scarf or a ticket to bring a non interested friend along!

[chimpster]

I don't bother with AGMs any more. Seen too many of them now, better things to do than listen to that crowd of ****s that turns up every year and make sure that the club can't move forward.

For me, the only way forward is for the club to be turned into a limited company. AGMs should just be for shareholders to be advised of finances. Directors should be installed and full-time staff should be left alone to run the club. This is the 21st century and we are the dinosaur club of the LOI.

Some people cr*p themselves at this idea, thinking that the club would be taken over by a shower of cowboys who would run it into the ground, but that ain't happening at other clubs. A full time board/staff will plan for the future instead of living this stupid year-by-year existence that the committees at Ramblers have to put up with.

Time for change lads, take the voice away from the begrudgers and move the club forward...

[MojoPin]

I don't bother with AGMs any more. Seen too many of them now, better things to do than listen to that crowd of ****s that turns up every year and makes sure that the club can't move forward.

For me, the only way forward is for the club to be turned into a limited company. AGMs should just be for shareholders to be advised of finances. Directors should be installed and full-time staff should be left alone to run the club. This is the 21st century and we are the dinosaur club of the LOI.

Some people crap themselves at this idea, thinking that the club would be taken home by a shower of cowboys who would run it into the ground, but that ain't happening at other clubs. A full time board/staff wiull plan for the future instead of living this stupid year-by-year existence that the committees at Ramblers have.

Time for change lads, take the voice away from the begrudgers and move the club forward...


its kinda true, but arent bohs the same as us?

[chimpster]

its kinda true, but arent bohs the same as us?

Not sure, maybe they are. But they don't have to put up with that crowd for 7 hours...

[bellavistaman]

the 50 year old constitution has to be ****ed out the window, its a joke, different generation, different standard of football, different things at stake. Hole meeting was a disgrasce. Surprised barry didnt walk, when he was asked to,(that i thought was a disgrace, only my own opinion though) the people who really care about the club know we need barry more than he needs us, if he walked when pushed, we'd be ****ed now, no sponsor or anything, would fold, just like some people want,. Out of everybody in that room last night, he is the only man suitable to take the club forward. Thankfully the majority is with the people who can put personal issues aside and do whats best for the club.
We know now lads that our comments are being watched, i think we were described as loo-laas??? there were a few loo laas in that room last also let me tell you.:) Anybody noticed nobody congratulated barry on gettin a 75,000 sponsorship deal?? Na, the hole think is a outrage, and for the 5 hours i was there, it was the first time in my life i was embarassed to be a rams fan, and we had to put up with some **** off pitch and on the pitch in my lifetime. Problem is the constitution and the old laws and old thinking behind it. Why was the solicitor there if his suggestion was going to be knocked down if it didnt suit somebody. No body had the balls to go against barry, so they should shut up from now on.

Also would be great if we could get possibly 3-4 people to get together to try keep the books in order. 4 people once a month,1 person looks after them a week??

R14 be careful with the names man.

[bellavistaman]

I believe that if there was someone suitable to challenge Barry for chairman that he would be gone and we would today be talking about our new chairman.

bull ****

[rambler14]

bull ****

Sorry there was a typo on the post. I phrased it totally wrong. I didn't mean it to come out that way. Deleted it.

[rambler14]

the 50 year old constitution has to be ****ed out the window, its a joke, different generation, different standard of football, different things at stake. Hole meeting was a disgrasce. Surprised barry didnt walk, when he was asked to,(that i thought was a disgrace, only my own opinion though) the people who really care about the club know we need barry more than he needs us, if he walked when pushed, we'd be ****ed now, no sponsor or anything, would fold, just like some people want,. Out of everybody in that room last night, he is the only man suitable to take the club forward. Thankfully the majority is with the people who can put personal issues aside and do whats best for the club.
We know now lads that our comments are being watched, i think we were described as loo-laas??? there were a few loo laas in that room last also let me tell you.:) Anybody noticed nobody congratulated barry on gettin a 75,000 sponsorship deal?? Na, the hole think is a outrage, and for the 5 hours i was there, it was the first time in my life i was embarassed to be a rams fan, and we had to put up with some **** off pitch and on the pitch in my lifetime. Problem is the constitution and the old laws and old thinking behind it. Why was the solicitor there if his suggestion was going to be knocked down if it didnt suit somebody. No body had the balls to go against barry, so they should shut up from now on.

Also would be great if we could get possibly 3-4 people to get together to try keep the books in order. 4 people once a month,1 person looks after them a week??


I agree with you there. It was quite embarrassing. To be honest I never realised there were so many begrudgers in the club.

[MojoPin]

and if they aired there views at a pubic forum why cant they be named here? pm time bella id say ;)

[don ramo]

lads i must say i was very unhappy about one motion, that was argued about for 45 mins, about setting the prices for the season ticket before christmass, which i took interest in cause of the fuss created, and it was voted against massively, and they said that the prices should be set at the AGM, final, so 2 hours later when the time came to sort out the prices, that people most against changeing the rule objected sayin it wasnt on the agenda, and went on for 10 mins, i nearly collapsed after all the argueing and rejection of haveing it set before christmass, it doesnt have to be on an agenda, as the conststuition states that it set at teh AGM,
that about sumed up the night for me, its was the major contradiction of the night,


sorry for jumpin in late PC was nearly layed to rest

[rambler14]

R14 be careful with the names man.

I only named the club auditor. Hardly the crime of the century. I named someone in an earlier post but I've fixed it.
I named the auditor because if it wasn't for him we'd still be there. He laid it all on the table and got to the point. He cleared up the bull Barry spouted about the club being financially sound.

I'd say this is the only thread where we've all agreed with each other:eek:

[bellavistaman]

is that why the two posts are edited since i said it, :D:D, just trying to help ya out fook ya so..:D

[ramsfan]

i think it is probably a time to draw a line under agm and move on, some good things some bad.no matter what people think this year is make or break, we will either make enough to keep us going or fold that is the reality

but lets enjoy the football after all thats why we are here

[chimpster]

i think it is probably a time to draw a line under agm and move on, some good things some bad.no matter what people think this year is make or break, we will either make enough to keep us going or fold that is the reality

but lets enjoy the football after all thats why we are here

Spot on Ramsfan. AGM RIP.

But personally, I'd still like there to be debate within the club management/membership on updating our constitution. At least to start taking small steps in the right direction. Or we'll all be here next year having the same conversations again...

[drinkfeckarse]

I agree with you there. It was quite embarrassing. To be honest I never realised there were so many begrudgers in the club.

Always has been, always will be. We always seem to thrive on negativity :o:(

[The Rebel Ram]

lads i must say i was very unhappy about one motion, that was argued about for 45 mins, about setting the prices for the season ticket before christmass, which i took interest in cause of the fuss created, and it was voted against massively, and they said that the prices should be set at the AGM, final, so 2 hours later when the time came to sort out the prices, that people most against changeing the rule objected sayin it wasnt on the agenda, and went on for 10 mins, i nearly collapsed after all the argueing and rejection of haveing it set before christmass, it doesnt have to be on an agenda, as the conststuition states that it set at teh AGM,
that about sumed up the night for me, its was the major contradiction of the night,


sorry for jumpin in late PC was nearly layed to rest

I was disgusted at this too. They didn't read the proposal. The msl crew were whinging and moaning so much about not being able to sell the tickets in December when the motion was to set the price in December.
My blood nearly boiled when they then wanted to keep the price of season tickets the same because it wasn't on the agenda. All they wanted to do was undermine the comittee yet again. These people have no interest in the club whatsoever they are just power hungry!!!!!!!:mad:
As for the chairman and his comments about past peoples performances he was completely out of order! It was extremely low and very unprofessional of him to be throwing out those remarks at anyone who challenged him. He lost a lot of respect from me.
As for those on here who don't turn up to the AGM's and want to scrap the constatution!
The only way for this club to survive is for us all to attend the AGM's. Read and study the constitution before the next AGM and put your proposals in, very carefully worded. If we can start making our voices heard we might have a chance of influencing the system and the clicks.
I have about 5 proposals prepared and stored already for next. I urge you to do the same. Show them that we are not just going to stand there and listen to their bitching all night, that there is actually a group of people who have the clubs interest as a priorty and have no history or hidden issues.
I honestly think we will have the loudest voice and the majority of the FANS on our side!!!!!

[Rambler1]

Jeez, I go to all that bother of writing a long mail and RamsFan gets the credit:rolleyes:

Sorry Rebel Ram...Good post again

[6yardpunisha]

just one worry i have to bring forward.

the chairman said he expects to gross ~300000 from 16 home games that is an average attendance of ~3500 people city were struggling to get that do we real thing we will get that many people through the gates, i really hope so otherwise we are f*cked

look at your maths, €300,000 divided by 16 games is a gate of €18,750 at an entry fee of €15 per head is 1,250 paying people.

[bellavistaman]

look at your maths, €300,000 divided by 16 games is a gate of €18,750 at an entry fee of €15 per head is 1,250 paying people.

Boom!!:D

[jebus]

look at your maths, €300,000 divided by 16 games is a gate of €18,750 at an entry fee of €15 per head is 1,250 paying people.

Do ye reckon ye'll get that for the home games lads?

[bellavistaman]

not all of them but the ones like bohs, rovers city (all twice at home) will make it even i reckon.

[6yardpunisha]

not all of them but the ones like bohs, rovers city (all twice at home) will make it even i reckon.

cant see why not for nearly all of them, especially with all the L37 fans we are expecting to come down to support us at home games:D

[rambler14]

I was disgusted at this too. They didn't read the proposal. The msl crew were whinging and moaning so much about not being able to sell the tickets in December when the motion was to set the price in December.
My blood nearly boiled when they then wanted to keep the price of season tickets the same because it wasn't on the agenda. All they wanted to do was undermine the comittee yet again. These people have no interest in the club whatsoever they are just power hungry!!!!!!!:mad:
As for the chairman and his comments about past peoples performances he was completely out of order! It was extremely low and very unprofessional of him to be throwing out those remarks at anyone who challenged him. He lost a lot of respect from me.
As for those on here who don't turn up to the AGM's and want to scrap the constatution!
The only way for this club to survive is for us all to attend the AGM's. Read and study the constitution before the next AGM and put your proposals in, very carefully worded. If we can start making our voices heard we might have a chance of influencing the system and the clicks.
I have about 5 proposals prepared and stored already for next. I urge you to do the same. Show them that we are not just going to stand there and listen to their bitching all night, that there is actually a group of people who have the clubs interest as a priorty and have no history or hidden issues.
I honestly think we will have the loudest voice and the majority of the FANS on our side!!!!!


Agree with ya 100%.

That proposal of Don Ramo's wasn't listened to and it should have passed in my opinion. It's farcicle that it didn't pass.
Can someone who stayed to the end tell me if the AGM is at the same time next year? I think it should be around late December, early January.

[rambler14]

look at your maths, €300,000 divided by 16 games is a gate of €18,750 at an entry fee of €15 per head is 1,250 paying people.

Burn!!!!!:D

[bellavistaman]

its always been february as long as i can remember, then again it was always sunday too.

[outside in]

Do ye reckon ye'll get that for the home games lads?
looking at the turn out so far lads im not so sure,defo cant see it for the "small games"

[bellavistaman]

looking at the turn out so far lads im not so sure,defo cant see it for the "small games"

your an awful a$shole all the same arent, mr negativity!!:D

[Cici900]

Sorr bout goin off topic now where do i go about a family season ticket

[outside in]

your an awful a$shole all the same arent, mr negativity!!:D
mr negativity .....where on earth did ya get that from:p

[luka]

Sorr bout goin off topic now where do i go about a family season ticket

See Angela in the Club office....................

[luka]

Alri could you tell me who your top scorer was last season and how many he got please

Davin O'Neill with 14 League Goals

[Seagull-4-life]

Is this your first season in the top flight? Who's your best player?

[The Rebel Ram]

Agree with ya 100%.

That proposal of Don Ramo's wasn't listened to and it should have passed in my opinion. It's farcicle that it didn't pass.
Can someone who stayed to the end tell me if the AGM is at the same time next year? I think it should be around late December, early January.

I think it was metioned that the AGM that the constitution states it has to be in either January or February

[The Rebel Ram]

Agree with ya 100%.

That proposal of Don Ramo's wasn't listened to and it should have passed in my opinion. It's farcicle that it didn't pass.
Can someone who stayed to the end tell me if the AGM is at the same time next year? I think it should be around late December, early January.

So that's who Don Ramo is, I might have a few more of ye sussed now!!!:)

[rambler14]

So that's who Don Ramo is, I might have a few more of ye sussed now!!!:)

Oh sh*t i'm dead!
Ah every one knows who he is anyway so it doesn't matter.

[The Rebel Ram]

Oh sh*t i'm dead!
Ah every one knows who he is anyway so it doesn't matter.

I'd say I know who you are too, just be careful on here!!!!!:p