Kilkenny might not be around next season.

[Poor Student]

Oh you Obsessive you ;)

That's Pineapple, easy to get us mixed up with identical initials.;)

[sadloserkid]

That's Pineapple, easy to get us mixed up with identical initials.;)

Sure all you student Galway haters look the same anyway: glasses, long hair, strange beards, baggy pants, hoodies, Limerick37 shirts...

[Lim till i die]

Sure all you student Galway haters look the same anyway: glasses, long hair, strange beards, baggy pants, hoodies, Limerick37 shirts...

Another Limerick fans identity outed for the Galway forums headhunters :eek: :D


Slightly OT, doesn't Rhattigans daughter have a lot of pull above at the FAI??

[sadloserkid]

Slightly OT, doesn't Rhattigans daughter have a lot of pull above at the FAI??

I'd argue that your OT there probably means 'on-topic' rather than 'off' but I'll humour you anyway. I'm pretty sure that his daughter is a member of the FAI Council.

[Lim till i die]

I'd argue that your OT there probably means 'on-topic' rather than 'off' but I'll humour you anyway.

Just the effect I was going for :)

[Bunny Kelly]

Director Caroline Rhatigan is not his daughter, just a coincindence AFAIK

[Lim till i die]

Director Caroline Rhatigan is not his daughter, just a coincindence AFAIK

I was almost certain she was his daughter.....

[Den Perry]

I'd argue that your OT there probably means 'on-topic' rather than 'off' but I'll humour you anyway. I'm pretty sure that his daughter is a member of the FAI Council.

Actually, she's not related to him as far as i know...

[Longfordian]

Not related and I heard there's been a parting of ways there too.

[sonofstan]

Drogheda only got a league team in 1963.

Oh Yeah... still, they're from a traditional football stronghold (Louth/ the east coast generally), so my original point stands

[A face]

Out of any club, Kilkenny do not deserve this at all. Its been run impeccably on a shoestring budget all down through the years. €50k is nothing in fairness compared to alot of other clubs fiascos down through the year.

Just want to say that right about now would be a good time to buy this book (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=594997&postcount=15).

[steno]

How do yuo order it Aface did you e-mail his newspaper company down in Kilkenny?. Its one book I keep meaning to get.

[Rams-07]

Often wondered how Kilkenny survived season after season..Any time I was at a match there in the last few seasons,the most home fans amounted to about 50 at the most.Jim Rattigan deserves a sainthood for keeping the club going against all the odds..Hope things work out for him..

[A face]

How do yuo order it Aface did you e-mail his newspaper company down in Kilkenny?. Its one book I keep meaning to get.

I know some people who have bought it through the club, and its available through a newsagent in the City. After that i dont know but if there were people interested in it then i wouldn't mind calling up and picking up a few copies.

[Martinho II]

How do yuo order it Aface did you e-mail his newspaper company down in Kilkenny?. Its one book I keep meaning to get.

steno i have ordered the book off jim rhattigan himself. i got his mobile no from rocky from foot.ie and he replied to my text and gave me his address to send the cheque to.


i will send a pm to you now...

[Paddyfield]

steno i have ordered the book off jim rhattigan himself. i got his mobile no from rocky from foot.ie and he replied to my text and gave me his address to send the cheque to.



That's how I got it. I sent a cheque to Jim Rhatigan's home address and the book was sent to me within a few days.

[Philly]

That's how I got it. I sent a cheque to Jim Rhatigan's home address and the book was sent to me within a few days.

Must get it myself. Meant to be a good read and I'm sure it illustrates the struggles that he has gone through to keep the club going.

[hoopy]

A source in the LSL reckons that Cherry Orchard's manager has been offered the job.

[ramsfan]

not a very good scenario for any manager to step up to let alone someone trying to move up alevel, best of luck buddy:ball:

[Den Perry]

A source in the LSL reckons that Cherry Orchard's manager has been offered the job.

Is that Joey Sommerville?

[Den Perry]

It's been hard to support City the last few years when the team has been such a shambles for all the good work done off the pitch. City will never get a big following given hurling place in the summer but for those that do go, too often the players have been so far below a repectable standard so it's hard to keep coming each week. We don't expect to challenging at the top of the table but a competitive side is all we'd ask for each week to boost interest in City, Pat Scully's team is the only one to offer this in the last few years.

I don't want to harsh on City because it wouldn't be right without them in the league, especially after the great memories most notable in the 96/97 campaign when we unbeaten at home for the season, a year that included Richie Hale going on a scoring blitz when the Hale-Bopp comet was in the sky (8 goals in 5 games I think), a year that gave us so many legends, but things had to come to a head as continuing as we have done for the last few years isn't viable.

hard on the players to perform when expected to drive all the way to donegal and play a match....

[Bunny Kelly]

That's true of all clubs & players but Cobh have shown how it can be done on a smaller set-up & we have had some success in the past(our 2 promotions were hardly bankrolled).

My only complaint with City is too often the playing side has taken a back seat to developing a nice ground, how would any of you feel if your side had finished bottom of the table 4 years out of the last 5 or started the last game of the season with a defender in goal?

Even without the current problems in running the club, the whole club needs a change of emphasis because I cannot see how a Kilkenny side of the last few seasons would beat Sporting Fingal come end of next season.

[amjl]

How much does it cost to run a 1st Division club for the year? What kind of budgets do Monaghan, Wexford, Kildare, Limerick, etc. operate on? Does anyone have a rough idea/ball park figure?:confused:

[Philly]

How much does it cost to run a 1st Division club for the year? What kind of budgets do Monaghan, Wexford, Kildare, Limerick, etc. operate on? Does anyone have a rough idea/ball park figure?:confused:

€1,500 - €2,500 per week wages anyways...

[Bluebeard]

Hmm. There is that web-bought club in London (Ebbfleet?). Is Kilkenny City a possible one for a foot.ie take over? In that case, I reckon the first thing is to fix the name (TOWN not city), then, as long as they lose the four games this year to the Blues, and injure our rivals, I'll be happy enough whatever the rest of ye want to do with them...

[bholg]

That would be class if it were possible.. anyone come up with a ball park annual per person figure if lets say 500 people got involved? total fantasy of course - nobody get too outraged at the impracticalities!

Interesting from a business point of view.. people here often talk or bemoan the promotional activities of various clubs, could enough ideas come from here to turn the club into a profit making organisation?

a bout of salmonella for the hurling team at an early stage in the all irelands may be a good start

[Bunny Kelly]

(In best Braveheart voice)

You may take our team but you'll never take our city!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A face]

Even without the current problems in running the club, the whole club needs a change of emphasis because I cannot see how a Kilkenny side of the last few seasons would beat Sporting Fingal come end of next season.

The thing is, Cobh have alot of people involved in the club aside from the first team. Their underage/junior teams have always done well. Maybe more people involved in junior clubs in Kilkenny should get involved and help out.

The actual true is that there has been an amazing effort done at City over a long long time. If more people go on board then you would see the advances being made that you are talking about.

[Bunny Kelly]

There definitely is a problem between junior football in Kilkenny & Kilkenny City. The Junior league is strong enough as shown in the Oscar Traynor trophy every season but these players do not come through to City as they consider the top local clubs stronger. Young local players are often more likely to join Waterford than Kilkenny because they have seen how badly run they have been on the pitch the last few seasons.

City probably need to enter sides in the underage leagues so kids can start to associate with the club & progress through the ranks but given the financial situation this probably is not feasible

[Den Perry]

There definitely is a problem between junior football in Kilkenny & Kilkenny City. The Junior league is strong enough as shown in the Oscar Traynor trophy every season but these players do not come through to City as they consider the top local clubs stronger. Young local players are often more likely to join Waterford than Kilkenny because they have seen how badly run they have been on the pitch the last few seasons.

City probably need to enter sides in the underage leagues so kids can start to associate with the club & progress through the ranks but given the financial situation this probably is not feasible

I think its unfair to lay all the blame on the playing side...forxample I've seen city play quite a lot over the last few seasons and never have I seen players from a club kitted out so badly, by that I mean drill tops, tracksuits etc. How can this be possible in a semi-professional set-up? Having said that I admire the club greatly and think the main cause of the malaise is the negative attitude of junior clubs towards their EL team. Up here that doesn't seem to be an issue....

[pineapple stu]

How much does it cost to run a 1st Division club for the year? What kind of budgets do Monaghan, Wexford, Kildare, Limerick, etc. operate on? Does anyone have a rough idea/ball park figure?:confused:
A couple of years ago, the Star printed clubs' turnover figures as per UEFA Licencing. Kilkenny and Limerick were around E80k for the year. That was the year Limerick were in a complete mess (relatively speaking of course), so they'd have increased a good bit since. There was a bit of a gap to the next team up - about E250k, I think.

[amjl]

I'm pretty sure that his daughter is a member of the FAI Council.

Caroline Rhatigan was elected to vice chair of the FAI Eircom League sometime before chritmas & has since had to forfeit her directorship at the club.

[A face]

Caroline Rhatigan was elected to vice chair of the FAI Eircom League sometime before chritmas & has since had to forfeit her directorship at the club.

Bad timing for Kilkenny so.

This highlights the need for EVERY club to get involved at community level and contribute to the social environment. Clubs will not exist on their own, they need support from the wider area and need to give back even more to that area. Not saying Kilkenny are guilty of not doing this but its definitely the way to go for all eL clubs.

[soccerc]

"Kilkenny City will survive, we were founded as EMFA in 1966 and just celebrated out 40th birthday and we will be around for our Golden Anniversary in 2016" were the fighting words of a 'Cats' source speaking exclusively to chatsoccer on Thursday evening.


We will Survive (http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/content/view/34/1/)

[DRDoc]

Havent seen that chat soccer site before - is it new or newish?

[A face]

Would people be prepared to chip in to help out Kilkenny City?

I know i'm good for €50-€100 anyway. Who is up for it?

[Den Perry]

Would people be prepared to chip in to help out Kilkenny City?

I know i'm good for €50-€100 anyway. Who is up for it?


would be willing to if I knew there was some kind of plan in place...not if the club are to go amateur though. Eircom League is a professional league(or semi pro aqt least)

[Battery Rover]

Would people be prepared to chip in to help out Kilkenny City?

I know i'm good for €50-€100 anyway. Who is up for it?

I will chip in something as well even though I could be on here looking for everyone to chip in and help Athlone yet:D

[L37Ultra]

Would people be prepared to chip in to help out Kilkenny City?

I know i'm good for €50-€100 anyway. Who is up for it?


And Limerick too..... please.. :(

[oldyouth]

D''you know something. I loves me football and I love the underdog but I don't think the heart is in the KK people to support their own local club. I'll back a plan they THEY set up to save their own team

[mrtndvn]

while we're at it could some start a collection for bohs, they'll be needing it soon enough!

[amjl]

I don't think the heart is in the KK people to support their own local club.

If the Wexford Hurlers were able to win as many All-Ireland titles as Kilkenny, I sure the Youths would suffer too as you'd all be too busy dancing at the crossroads to go watch soccer matches!!

There are people who do support their local club & volunteer to help out whenever they can. However we do need more support - vocally, physically & financially but its hard when the Hurlers are winning so consistantly and City are finishing bottom of the league year after year.:(

[Bluebeard]

While I am all in favour of a foot.ie whip round, what exactly is the current state of play. Rhatigan is stepping down his financial input, but what is the score with the team: Is there a squad? What is the manager situation? Has training been scheduled yet? Is the license gettable? Is there someone there with a long term strategy for the future yet? And if not, is there someone who could be drafted in to do so?

If I had the money to invest in a football business, these are the questions I would ask. If I were to make a financial contribution, it would ultimately be very small; however it would be a lot for me, especially seeing the fiscal distress that the Blues seem annually to visit. I would like to help Kilkenny, as I have many fine memories of games there, but I do not want to throw cash down the drain that might help a poor struggling club that would could survive - e.g. the Lims, Athlone, Bohs;) - or, as is usually the case, and top of my brief, the Blues.

I really hope that the Cats survive, and are not replaced off the field. They are terribly nice people, and kindly help the rest of us from having to finish bottom any given year - good job they ditched that horrible Scully chap - he simply did not play the game!

[Lim till i die]

Would people be prepared to chip in to help out Kilkenny City?

I know i'm good for €50-€100 anyway. Who is up for it?

Face

It's a lovely thought

But we have problems of our own

And dare I say it a mite more potential/potential for heartbreak if things go tits up than Kilkenny :o

[oldyouth]

Amlj, you are just confirming my point. For whatever reason, I don't think there is enough support for Kilkenny City Football Club. As for the GAA references in your reply, I proudly hold a record of having never seen or been to a GAA game in my 45 years.
I have been to LOI matches since I was 10 and growing up in Dublin (I think 0-0 was a comulpsory score back then). I went to all the internationals in Dalymount and later Landsdowne Rd when you could easily buy a ticket at the gate. I have travelled the SE with my sons playing schoolboy football in all weathers. In short, if KK were my team, I'd be there even if they were bottom and I don't think there are enough of my type in your area.This is a pity for true fans of the game, which I'm presuming you are

[amjl]

Amlj, you are just confirming my point. For whatever reason, I don't think there is enough support for Kilkenny City Football Club.


I wasn't disagreeing with you oldyouth. There is a serious lack of support or even a lack of willingness to support soccer in this county from alot of people, which all soccer teams face in this country. There are other uderlining factors which causes this KK, other than GAA as other big GAA counties (in both Hurling & Gaelic) Cork, Galway, Waterford, Wexford have very good followings in soccer by comparison. (albeit maybe due to better catchment as all 4 have much bigger populations, but still)

There is from what I sense some kind of mental thing, particularly between some sections within the local district league & the LOI team in the county that the junior soccer is of a better standard & therefore the better players dont/wont make the step up to senior and from what I've heard, I believe its a similar situation in Limerick (plus they've strong GAA & Rugby folowing to compete with).

I could be totally wrong & I sure I'll be told otherwise if I am, but that is my opinion from my expierence & I'm know it doesn't apply everwhere, but in sections it does.

[ramsfan]

on the paper today that rhatigan is talikng to a thrird investor today dont know if previous two were willing to help out, shame to see them go, shame to hear ill health has taken someones live work from them

what should happen is they organise a friendly and supporters from all other club turn up to game and show support like wrexham a couple of years ago

[oldyouth]

Thanks Amjl, we both seem to have taken eachother up wrong, apologies. Basically my point is, if supporters from other clubs say Kilkenny supporters trying hard to save their club, I'm sure they would back you. I love the game and would hate to see any club (LOI, team, Schoolboy etc) fold.
On a totally jovial note, can we have first dibs on your nice stand if it is put up for sale? Me feet are killing me at the Youths

[ramsfan]

Thanks Amjl, we both seem to have taken eachother up wrong, apologies. Basically my point is, if supporters from other clubs say Kilkenny supporters trying hard to save their club, I'm sure they would back you. I love the game and would hate to see any club (LOI, team, Schoolboy etc) fold.
On a totally jovial note, can we have first dibs on your nice stand if it is put up for sale? Me feet are killing me at the Youths


no need id say mick has plans for a 2-3000 seater with individual heated seats and foot warmers, seems to be planning for everything else so why not:D

[oldyouth]

I even hear that the seats will be recliners with a message setting:rolleyes: