View Full Version : Fabio Capello looks set for England
danonion
13/12/2007, 4:45 AM
According to Guardian Unlimited, he's gonna get the job this morning.
Sligo Hornet
13/12/2007, 6:24 AM
Lucky for them.....good choice in my opinion
osarusan
13/12/2007, 7:49 AM
Well done the English FA.
McClaren was sacked more recently than Staunton, yet they have managed to discuss the issue with various people and hire one of the best managers in the world.
I'm sure that money had a lot to do with it, and there is no way the FAI can compete, but that's how it should be done, not pi$$ing around for a few months just choosing the people to recommend a manager to the FAI.
superfrank
13/12/2007, 9:44 AM
Well done to the FA. Capello is a manager I rate very highly and his kind of strict line will be a shock to a lot of the English prima donnas and I expect he won't take any crap from the media either.
mypost
13/12/2007, 11:25 AM
So they appoint a bloke who can't speak English, and who puts the word bor into boring, on the field. He makes Eriksson's tactics seem revolutionary.
Yes, I can see the English press/public taking kindly to him. :rolleyes:
gustavo
13/12/2007, 11:26 AM
So they appoint a bloke who can't speak English, and puts the bor into boring.
Yes, I can see the English press/public taking kindly to him. :rolleyes:
He wins stuff though which is quite important
DaveyCakes
13/12/2007, 11:47 AM
So they appoint a bloke who can't speak English, and who puts the word bor into boring, on the field. He makes Eriksson's tactics seem revolutionary.
Yes, I can see the English press/public taking kindly to him. :rolleyes:
Most of the players can barely speak English so it won't be that much of a problem.
Stuttgart88
13/12/2007, 1:18 PM
I read in the paper today that Capello conducted the interview in fluent English. Maybe all he said was "four million pounds please"!
Block G Raptor
13/12/2007, 5:52 PM
Confirmed on 6 one news
mypost
13/12/2007, 6:06 PM
He wins stuff though which is quite important
Had to laugh at the outright racism, displayed by the PL's finest, when interviewed about it. "I want an Englishman to do it". None of them volunteered to put themselves forward for the job of course. :rolleyes:
The reason no Englishman will do it, is because of the press attention that goes with it. Already Capello's home has been marked. He may also drop Beckham again, which will go down on Fleet St, like a lead balloon.
Welcome to "Turnip town", Capello. :D
shakermaker1982
13/12/2007, 6:36 PM
when he gets sacked in 3 years time they'll be able to appoint Shearer/Adams/Fat Sam/Southgate to get that English bulldog spirit into em...... :) Cappelo has a brilliant CV but so did Sven.
Lim till i die
13/12/2007, 9:09 PM
Cappelo has a brilliant CV but so did Sven.
I assume you're extracting the urine??
Sven:
IFK Göteborg
Svenska Cupen Winners 1979, 1982
Allsvenskan Champions 1981, 1982
UEFA Cup Winners 1982
S.L. Benfica
Portuguese Liga Champions 1983, 1984, 1991
Cup of Portugal Winners 1983
SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira Champions 1989
European Cup Runners Up 1990
UEFA Cup Runners Up 1983
A.S. Roma
Coppa Italia Winners 1986
U.C. Sampdoria
Coppa Italia Winners 1994
S.S. Lazio
Coppa Italia Winners 1998, 2000
Italian Super Cup Winners 1998
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999
Serie A Champions 2000
Capello:
Italy:
Scudetto: 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1995/96 (Milan); 2000/01 (Roma)
Runner-up: 2001/02, 2003/04 (Roma)
UEFA Champions League: 1994 (Milan 4-0 Barcelona)
European Super Cup: 1994 (Milan 2-0 Arsenal)
Supercoppa Italiana: 1992, 1993, 1994 (Milan); 2001 (Roma)
Runner-up: 2005 (Juventus)
Coppa Italia Runner-up: 1997/98 (Milan); 2002/03 (Roma)
Spain:
La Liga: 1996/97; 2006/07 (Real Madrid)
Five Scudettos, Two La Ligas and a European Cup
And that's not including the two won with Juventus.
The man is almost peerless in the modern game.
I've a terrible feeling England have cracked it. :(
We can but hope their media/fickle fans balls it up for them
Lim till i die
13/12/2007, 9:10 PM
So they appoint a bloke who can't speak English, and who puts the word bor into boring, on the field. He makes Eriksson's tactics seem revolutionary.
Yes, I can see the English press/public taking kindly to him. :rolleyes:
He's not a tactical genius like that Rafa Benitez then?? ;) :p
mypost
13/12/2007, 10:45 PM
I assume you're extracting the urine??
The man is almost peerless in the modern game.
I've a terrible feeling England have cracked it. :( We can but hope their media/fickle fans balls it up for them
They will. England always f-up somewhere along the line. :D
Their media won't be taken by the cautious approach favoured by him, and Sven before him, nor the changes he will make. Instead of getting the best man for the job, they won't rest until that man is English. And even then, they won't rest. I don't see Capello having much time for the likes of Defoe, Bent, and Crouch. I don't see him having much time for the marketing machine on the wing either. This will be seen as treason, and one bad result = the door, to their press.
shakermaker1982
14/12/2007, 7:30 AM
I assume you're extracting the urine?? Cappello obviously has an excellent CV but Sven's record as a manager was impressive as well. I don't think it matters who they get in, this current crop of English players seem to implode as soon as the going gets tough. Long may it continue.
gustavo
14/12/2007, 8:33 AM
Had to laugh at the outright racism, displayed by the PL's finest, when interviewed about it. "I want an Englishman to do it". None of them volunteered to put themselves forward for the job of course. :rolleyes:
The reason no Englishman will do it, is because of the press attention that goes with it. Already Capello's home has been marked. He may also drop Beckham again, which will go down on Fleet St, like a lead balloon.
Welcome to "Turnip town", Capello. :D
I wouldnt say it was racism wanting a countryman to manage your national team , In an ideal world thats what we would alll want for our country but doesnt always work out that way.
beautifulrock
14/12/2007, 8:39 AM
I read in the paper today that Capello conducted the interview in fluent English. Maybe all he said was "four million pounds please"!
£6m gross by the looks of it, 5 year contract to boot. A worringly good choice by the FA. Does that mean we can get Lippi now?
£6m gross by the looks of it, 5 year contract to boot. A worringly good choice by the FA. Does that mean we can get Lippi now?
You'll take Venables and be happy with it, John Delaney, Thy will be done
Newryrep
14/12/2007, 9:41 AM
A worringly good choice by the FA. Does that mean we can get Lippi now?
It does seem on the face of it a good choice and possibly England have cracked it but we still have hope because
1. He will get the backs of the press up as he will have no time for them
2. He is Italien and not English
3. The premiership clubs are pretty powerfull and dont give a fig about the English national side
4. Dont know if the Italien/spanish press delved into his private life but you can be sure the english press will
lopez
14/12/2007, 10:12 AM
Capello's titles have been won with huge resources and at top clubs. Even at Real he was shaky and disliked, winning the league on the last day when Barcelona had thrown the league away in the previous week. And he only did it by bringing back cojones dorados and then dropping him.
He's working with mediocre players that are getting more mediocre by the day, and he won't be able to buy (or get someone else to) his way out of trouble. Plus a press corps that hate foreigners. And he'll p*ss them off dropping Beckham and bring him back when it begins to go Pete Tong. I think he'll struggle but he should qualify as first for South Africa, although I'd have preffered someone useless like McLaren. Nice job to ease your way into retirement.
Stuttgart88
14/12/2007, 10:27 AM
All the talk is that he'll get England mentally right. They still can't comprehend that ball retention and technique is where the players fail and as long as they think like that they can have Harry Potter managing them and they won't win anything. Nobs like Michael Owen and Alan Shearer perpetually spout on that England's players are better than the players at the other top teams. They were outclassed by Croatia in many facets of the game at Wembley and Croatia will do well to get to the last 8.
My personal theory is that teams like United who play and win by playing a high tempo attacking game where the players work like mad to regain possession when they lose it (which is frequently because they're happy to put in crosses early) works well in cool climates. This style of play suits England well.
In the soaring temperatures of summer tournament football this style of play is simply not sustainable. My worry in this context is that in South Africa it won't be as hot - it's their winter in June/July, yes?
England are like Paula Radcliffe: good in cool conditions, outclassed in the heat.
Can Capello change that? I doubt it.
I think it's becoming clear that Ericsson is a far better manager than they gave him credit for and I'm not sure Capello will do much better. Q/Fs, maybe S/Fs. I'm not saying England will never win anything - if Liverpool can win the CL then England can win a tournament, but they'll need an awful lot of things to go their way.
beautifulrock
14/12/2007, 10:34 AM
I think this comment in the Telegraph (by a reader) is quite apt (for us as well)
"Spike Milligan once wrote that if Einstein stood for 20 years in front of a cage full of monkeys, explaining his theory of relativity, at the end of it all they would still just be monkeys.
Good luck Mr Capello
Posted by Steve Cook on December 14, 2007 8:48 AM
OwlsFan
14/12/2007, 11:22 AM
Crazy money. 6 million sterling a year. Almost a million a game. Haven't read the small print but no doubt it's an 88 year contract with a huge pay off if it goes pear shaped.
Any future Sun headlines ?
Cop out by Capello
Not Capeablle
Cape Clear of Capello
Green Tribe
14/12/2007, 12:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7143259.stm
Would they ever quit their rubbish whining?:rolleyes:
jebus
14/12/2007, 12:15 PM
For what it's worth I agree with Ince. I'm with Wenger, Southgate and the rest in saying that a national manager of a major footballing country should come from the same nation. For England to have to go outside of Britain at least is a pretty sad state of affairs.
Wenger made a point about being slightly embarrassed for Sven when England played Sweden and he just stood looking awkward when the Swedish national anthem was played
Stuttgart88
14/12/2007, 12:21 PM
In principle I think international football should be about the best your country or association can offer. That applies to management as well as players. If you were to be picky I think it applies more to the bigger footballing powers.
However, it's a professional game so it doesn't work this way.
OwlsFan
14/12/2007, 12:23 PM
His nationality won't be an issue if he's successful. If he isn't, well...you know the rest.
There just wasn't any decent English manager in the picture. The one and only successful one was Alf Ramsay and that's only because they were playing at home.
jebus
14/12/2007, 12:41 PM
opinion may be divided but Alan Curbishley and Harry Redknapp would have done a job for England if you ask me
jmurphyc
14/12/2007, 12:51 PM
One thing is if Capello can't get it right for them then it'll be a long time before anyone can. If they can get to the semis of a tournament then I'd say that that's a very good tournament for them, but whether it would be enough for the press is another matter. Everyone in England forgot that Eriksson took them up a fair few notches when they sacked him (went out of Euro 2000 at the group stage FFS) and then they went back to where they belong when they appointed McClaren. They just don't have the players to do it.
Lim till i die
14/12/2007, 1:24 PM
Harry Redknapp would have done a job for England if you ask me
Why??
An absolute spoofer of epic proportions.
Makes Martin O'Neill look like a tactical genius ;)
OldKentRoad
14/12/2007, 1:29 PM
Why??
An absolute spoofer of epic proportions.
Makes Martin O'Neill look like a tactical genius ;)
yeah cos MoN really outfoxed 'Arry boy last Saturday, didn't he?
Why??
An absolute spoofer of epic proportions.
Makes Martin O'Neill look like a tactical genius ;)
I think he's a better choice than the previous 4 English managers at least (I actually quite like Taylor), he fits the mould of a proper Englishman, and he would keep England on their steady track of mediocrity. Don't get me wrong 'Arry would never win anything with England, but in general I think England are on their right level in international football, the second tier alongside countries like Spain, Holland, Mexico and Portugal, countries that might do something at a tournament, but probably won't, and Arsene Wenger aside, there's not a man on this planet that could change that
Lim till i die
14/12/2007, 1:33 PM
yeah cos MoN really outfoxed 'Arry boy last Saturday, didn't he?
Only really serves to prove how crap O'Neill is then tbh
OldKentRoad
14/12/2007, 1:40 PM
Only really serves to prove how crap O'Neill is then tbh
make up your mind - you said Redknapp makes MoN look like a tactical genius, next post you say Harry proves O'Neill is crap......hmmmm
Lim till i die
14/12/2007, 1:42 PM
make up your mind - you said Redknapp makes MoN look like a tactical genius, next post you say Harry proves O'Neill is crap......hmmmm
O'Neill is obviously a lot poorer then I thought.
I haven't been taking much notice of the Premiership recently.
Of Course you could argue Arry has a better team I suppose
O'Neill is obviously a lot poorer then I thought.
I haven't been taking much notice of the Premiership recently.
Of Course you could argue Arry has a better team I suppose
You could also argue that that's because Harry has built a better team through his transfer dealings though, thus pipping MoN to that post too
tetsujin1979
14/12/2007, 1:53 PM
The RTE pundits' take on Capello's appointment: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/1212/rangerslyonanalysis_av.html
Notable for the closest Dunphy has ever come to criticising Roy Keane
Lim till i die
14/12/2007, 1:58 PM
You could also argue that that's because Harry has built a better team through his transfer dealings though, thus pipping MoN to that post too
Indeed you could :o
Although I reckon Arry spent far more.
Let's just say they're both rubbish huff merchants who will never ever be good enough to achieve anything at the highest level.
Indeed you could :o
Although I reckon Arry spent far more.
Let's just say they're both rubbish huff merchants who will never ever be good enough to achieve anything at the highest level.
Agreed
Stuttgart88
17/12/2007, 12:50 PM
So far so good:
"I'm going to try to understand what happened by talking to the players," he added. "I believe that wearing the England shirt should be a matter of pride - I want to see all players playing for England like they do for their clubs."
So, player power returns and all that's missing is a bit of pride.
Great start! Nothing to do with technique, ball retention, superioty complexes...
NeilMcD
17/12/2007, 1:20 PM
To be fair I don't think he is going to say that in his first press conference. I am sure on the training field he will say what he has always said.
OwlsFan
17/12/2007, 2:02 PM
To be fair I don't think he is going to say that in his first press conference. I am sure on the training field he will say what he has always said.
I reckon he will say:
"Ho parlato con lui e con Steven Gerrard chiedendo espressamente di usare grande calma e prudenza. L'obiettivo è averlo in campo al massimo della condizione a Liverpool. I suoi capelli? Meglio adesso che prima, con quella "crapa pelata". Guai a lui se li tocca...
Un po' mi fa pena. Trentun anni, ridotto come un Enzo Braschi qualunque. Lui che poteva essere il re McLaren biggo Pr*cko."
But I could be wrong.
mypost
19/12/2007, 1:41 PM
Even after Capello showed up, the racism continued. "I want an Englishman" from the nobodies.
Lots of countries all over the world hire coaches from all over the world, ourselves included. Grow up, and get on with it. :rolleyes:
gustavo
19/12/2007, 2:55 PM
I dont think Italy , Spain , France , Germany , Brazil Argentina have had foreign managers though ?
I dont think Italy , Spain , France , Germany , Brazil Argentina have had foreign managers though ?Spain had Ladislao Kubala and Jose Santamaria in the late seventies and early eighties. Kubala move from Hungary after the 56 revolution and lived in Spain until his death. Santamaria was a 2G born in Uruguay. Both were Spanish citizens when they held the post.
gustavo
19/12/2007, 9:03 PM
Thanks Lopez I stand corrected , still they were both of the Spanish footballing system
Thanks Lopez I stand corrected , still they were both of the Spanish footballing systemAbsolutely. And as stated they were both Spanish citizens. The thought of a foreigner running 'la seleccion' would cause outrage across the country, even in the parts where you wouldn't have thought so. ie. 'What's wrong with a Basque/Catalan getting the job? Another Madrid conspiracy to keep US out of having the main job by employing a foreigner.' Even though with the exception of Javier Irureta, I can't see anybody from these two parts of Spain currently being in contention.
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