Hugely Over rated/Under rated Players

[an_ceannaire]

So often players get labeled as over rated etc
Players like Beckham Figo Totti have had this tag for years. In many cases, Figo's especially is is completely unwarranted, A fabulous footballer. Totti also, despite what Eamo and the boys think is a bloody good player and Becks can be very good also. They are funny cases as some people over rate them and some chronically under rate them.
So who, current or recent past do you see as being GENUINELY over rated and to make in interesting also under rated players.

Over rated....Rio. All on his own. Savagely over rated.
Under rated - Tim Cahill
Over rated - Damien Duff, always was, good player no doubt, world class...no
Under rated - Shay Given - Second best keeper in england if not the world
Over rated - Ryan Giggs , and has been for some time
Under rated - Clarence Seedorf. Many will tell u he is a plodder , some plodder!

[stojkovic]

Under-rated
Rui Costa
Pippo Inzaghi
Seedorf
Given
Roy Keane (until 2001)

Over-rated
River Ferdinand
Beckham
Fat Frank
most England players in fact
Puyol

[Red4Eva]

over-rated: giggs, lampard, lampard, lampard, lampard....oh and that fat guy that plays for chelsea frank something

under-rated: javier zanetti, xavi, iniesta

[anto1208]

Under rated

Lee Carsley
Artetta
Given

Over rated

Gerrard
Lampard
Wright Philips
Nani
Rio
Ronaldiniho

[gspain]

Over rated

Gerrard
Terry
Rio
Raul
Puyol

Under Rated

Carvalho
Messi
Pirlo
Vidic

[an_ceannaire]

G Spain u must REALLY rate Messi if u think he is under rated :) Most people regard him as a top 3 in the world player!

[superfrank]

Over rated: Rio, Gerrard, Fowler, Adriano, Nakamura, Downing, Pepe, Podolski, Schweinsteiger

Under rated: Carragher, Afonso Alves, Given, Defoe, Benayoun, Benjani, Kim Kjallstrom, Juninho, Lescott, Mancini, Naismith, Cousin, Ribery

[an_ceannaire]

Soft spot for the Huns eh Frank :)

[gustavo]

Over rated....Rio. All on his own. Savagely over rated.

I will assume you are referring to Rio Ferdinand ,

On the contrary to be over-rated I believe due to the amount of slagging he receives usually on here , he is really under rated . A fine defender who's perceived (probably rightly) repuatation as being a right **** has blurred some peoples views on him as a footballer.

[superfrank]

I admired Steven Naismith when he was at Kilmarnock. I thought he was a very good player. I don't think he's getting enough of a chance at Rangers, even though he did really well to set up a goal against Falkirk the other week.

Daniel Cousin was a top striker in France and that's why I rate him highly.

I dislike both Old Firm clubs equally.

[an_ceannaire]

Gustavo I know what you mean. I used to say that about Beckham.
Beckham was not the world class player some of them across the pond would have us believe, how ever he was a bloody good footballer and way better than some here would have you believe. He would still get in most teams but he was never in the Zidane class.
Rio, nothing to do with his personality, i wouldnt care less what kinda geezer he was, I just think he is a very ordinary footballer.
I would honestly rate Vidic, Carra, a fit Woodgate, Terry, Dunne, Lescott, Carvalhio and Toure ahead of him. And probably Ledley King too

What are you views on Beckham Figo and Totti lads?

[shanman2]

Over Rated Frank Lampard, Robbie Keane, Stephen Gerrard, Arjen Robben, Vorinin(the lad at liverpool).

Under Rated Tim Cahill, Carles Puyol, Andrea Pirlo, David Bentley, Olaf Mellberg.

[shanman2]

I would honestly rate Vidic, Carra, a fit Woodgate, Terry, Dunne, Lescott, Carvalhio and Toure ahead of him. And probably Ledley King too

What are you views on Beckham Figo and Totti lads?[/QUOTE]

Beckham out wide with the ball at his feet is lethal and a half second to see who is available in the box he has great stamina. Outerwise he lacks pace, Intelligence never was world class but good none the less.
Figo at Barcelona was spectacular he just beat people for fun. When he went to Real he kept it going for a year or two only. Great pace intelligence.
Totti is a nice player behind the front one-two only I think he stayed at Roma to long.

[stojkovic]

What are you views on Beckham Figo and Totti lads?

I always thought that in the early days that Figo was over-rated. It was Rui Costa who pulled the strings. He destroyed us in Lisbon in 95. At Euro 2000 Figo was given MOTM against England when it was Rui Costa who destroyed them. EVen Jaio Pinto did more than Figo. Having said that Figo did come into his own after that and has been briliant for Inter since handing back his Galactico membership card.

Totti is an imposter IMO. No where near as good as the likes of Baggio. Its a Roman think, they had the same affection for Giannini.

We know what Beckhams good and bad points are. The good outweigh the bad. A team would have to be built around him ala Riquelme. But this would not happen with English teams.

Thats my spoke anyway.

[see's it]

the swede for inter milan whose name i cant spell is the most over rated player on the planet

[an_ceannaire]

Ibrahimovich
ya very over rated
agreed
Whats everyones opinions on Henrik Larsson?
Over rated? Under rated? A wasted talent in a ****e league?

[osarusan]

Overrated : Christiano Ronaldo, Essien, Hargreaves, Sagna, Milner, Nakata.

Underrated: Malbranque, Marcos Paulo Alves (http://www.sambafoot.com.br/jogadores/163_Marcos_Paulo.html), Gianluca Pessotto, Candela.

[stojkovic]

Whats everyones opinions on Henrik Larsson?
Over rated? Under rated? A wasted talent in a ****e league?

Great striker.

Scored in Holland, Scotland and Spain and also scored at three World Cups.

[see's it]

Overrated : Christiano Ronaldo, Essien, Hargreaves, Sagna, Milner, Nakata.

Underrated: Malbranque, Marcos Paulo Alves (http://www.sambafoot.com.br/jogadores/163_Marcos_Paulo.html), Gianluca Pessotto, Candela.


nakata is finished playing i think anyone know where he is?

[see's it]

Great striker.

Scored in Holland, Scotland and Spain and also scored at three World Cups.

and england

[Dodge]

Overrated; Gerrard, Ibrohamovic, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, most Irish players, cannavarro, gerrard

Underrated; Iniesta, Gallas, Nesta, Deco,

[osarusan]

nakata is finished playing i think anyone know where he is? yeah, he's retired. He's hiking in Vietnam or something like that now. Seriously.

[EAFC_rdfl]

Over rated: Rio, Gerrard, Fowler, Adriano, Nakamura, Downing, Pepe, Podolski, Schweinsteiger

Under rated: Carragher, Afonso Alves, Given, Defoe, Benayoun, Benjani, Kim Kjallstrom, Juninho, Lescott, Mancini, Naismith, Cousin, Ribery

naismith&cousin?? aye right!

I didn't think it was possible to under rate benayoun, he's muck :eek:

Larsson was underrated until he put arsenal to the sword&even now a lot make little of him cause he "played in a ****e league..." :rolleyes: for most of his career

[see's it]

Overrated; Gerrard, Ibrohamovic, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, most Irish players, cannavarro, gerrard

Underrated; Iniesta, Gallas, Nesta, Deco,


steve or paul gerrard?

[Seano]

Overrated : Christiano Ronaldo, Essien, Hargreaves, Sagna, Milner, Nakata.

Underrated: Malbranque, Marcos Paulo Alves (http://www.sambafoot.com.br/jogadores/163_Marcos_Paulo.html), Gianluca Pessotto, Candela.

I dont particulary like him, but how can you say Ronaldo?, I think some people are including players that they don't like

[osarusan]

He looks great against poor opposition , but I've never seen him have a top-class performance when it was really needed.

[jebus]

Over rated: Rooney, Lampard, Rio, Gattuso, McGeady, Ibrahimovich, Adriano, Gerrard, Stephen Hunt

Under rated: Xabi Alonso, Robinho, Kilbane, Pirlo, Proper Ronaldo, Forlan

Just Right: Kaka, Messi and Cesc, the three best players in the world

[Lim till i die]

MASSIVELY Overrated: Captain Stevie Courageous
Underrated: The rest of that Liverpool midfield tbh.

Overrated: Terry, Ronaldo (The Portugese one), Ferdinand, Carrick, Lampard, Rooney (Assuming anyone still rates him)

Literally dozens more I might go through later.

Also a special mention to the vast majority of the Irish squad and anyone in a Celtic shirt who has ever beaten a player :)

[mr miyagi]

Overrated : Rooney ,Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Ibrahimovic...

Underrated : Xabi Alonso, Diego, Shinji Ono, Riquelme, Mascherano, Crouch, Torsten Frings, Aiden McGeady..

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head..

[Dodge]

Underrated : Riquelme

he's the only player I forgot to include. Except I was going to have him as overrated. Fecking waster who has never come close to performing well in big games.

[ifk101]

Overrated : Ronaldinho (lazy, overweight, has the talent to be much better), Puyol (get a haircut!), Richard Dunne (the defender that has no ball control)

Underrated : Iniesta (outstanding midget of a player), Robinho (beginning to show his class), Zlatan Ibra. (world-class).

[mr miyagi]

he's the only player I forgot to include. Except I was going to have him as overrated. Fecking waster who has never come close to performing well in big games.

Riquelme is an unbelievable player. His goalscoring and assist record should speak for themselves.
What do you expect him to do ?? Take on defences ala Kaka or Messi ??
He's a great passer of the ball and there is no better set piece taker...

What big games are you talking about ??Arsenal in the Champions League is the only one I can think of...You have to remember he played for a Villarreal team that were frequently in the bottom half of La Liga before he came...

He was great at the World Cup...so you can't be talking about Argentina...

[Dodge]

What big games are you talking about ??Arsenal in the Champions League is the only one I can think of...You have to remember he played for a Villarreal team that were frequently in the bottom half of La Liga before he came...
And they were bottom half of La Liga before Diego Forlan came too


He was great at the World Cup...so you can't be talking about Argentina...
He was great in the meaningless group stages, and completely missing when they were knocked out.

He failed hugely at Barcelona as he couldn't handle the pressure. He was sacked by Villareal for not being bothered. He wasn't picked for Argentina for years.

An undoubted talent certainly. On his day he's as good as they get. But he'll never perform consistently well for a top european side and therefore can't be classed as a world great.

[mr miyagi]

Argentina were knocked out in penalties by Germany...Riquelme wasn't even on the pitch at that stage...but he did supply the cross for Argentina's goal.
And btw...I wouldn't call the group stages meaningless when they were in a group with Holland, Serbia & Montenegro and Ivory Coast

He failed at Barcelona because he was rarely played, and when he was it was as a winger...

[ifk101]

Riquelme needs to be "the big fish in a small pool" to play well - he needs to feel secure that he's the team's "main man".

He's a talented player but, as Dodge said, when the pressure is on he invariably goes missing.

[Dodge]

He failed at Barcelona because he was rarely played, and when he was it was as a winger...
he played 30 league games in his only season there.

And why wasn't he on the pitch when they were knocked out? because he was anonymous when he was there...

[galwayhoop]

Over Rated: Thierry Henry

[DmanDmythDledge]

He failed hugely at Barcelona as he couldn't handle the pressure.
The pressure of having his brother kidnapped back in Argentina and having to negoiate with the kidnappers himself. Also Van Gaal said that he was a political signing and didn't want him. He wasted him on the wing. Who knows what would have happened had he not had those problems.

[eirebhoy]

He's a talented player but, as Dodge said, when the pressure is on he invariably goes missing.
I don't think it's a case of going missing. Like all players of his type, there's not a lot he can do if his team haven't got the ball. When Argentina have the better of the game he'll usually be the centre of everything.

Ledley King would be one of the most overrated players I can think of.

[mr miyagi]

The pressure of having his brother kidnapped back in Argentina and having to negoiate with the kidnappers himself. Also Van Gaal said that he was a political signing and didn't want him. He wasted him on the wing. Who knows what would have happened had he not had those problems.

Forgot about that...paid the ransom himself...:(

[Blue-Army]

Why does everyone think the Frank Lampard is so overrated???...He's got 40 goals in the last two seasons for Chelsea alone ,and 7 already this season, ....FROM MIDFIELD...most strikers would be happy with that return...He's also a brilliant passer of the ball and contributes loads of assists....He's not great for England, but his performances for Chelsea are always good...

Most underrated player in the world is Iniesta....FACT :)

[DmanDmythDledge]

Why does everyone think the Frank Lampard is so overrated???...He's got 40 goals in the last two seasons for Chelsea alone ,and 7 already this season, ....FROM MIDFIELD...most strikers would be happy with that return...He's also a brilliant passer of the ball and contributes loads of assists....He's not great for England, but his performances for Chelsea are always good...
That's because of Chelsea's style of play. Hoof it up to Drogaba, he knocks it down, bang back of the net. Also have you seen his statistics for shots off target- highest in the league usually. If you take as many shots as him you bound to score some. He'd be lost in a team like Arsenal or Barca.

[rambler14]

Over Rated: FRANK LAMPARD, Ibrahimovic, John Terry, Ronaldinho, Nakamura, Jamie Carragher, Micah Richards, Essien, Ashley Young, Nani, Robbie Keane, Didier Drogba, Ashley Cole and FRANK LAMPARD.(God damn it I hate Frank Lampard!!!!!!:mad::mad:)

Under Rated: Nemanja Vidic, Mark Noble, Mikel Arteta, Paul Scharner, Elano, Xabi Alonso, Mark Viduka, Christopher Samba, Lee Cattermole, Sol Campbell, Daniel Agger, Stephen Warnock and Kevin Davies.

I love this I could go on all day.:D

[Blue-Army]

That's because of Chelsea's style of play. Hoof it up to Drogaba, he knocks it down, bang back of the net. Also have you seen his statistics for shots off target- highest in the league usually. If you take as many shots as him you bound to score some. He'd be lost in a team like Arsenal or Barca.
It works doesn't it??

[gustavo]

That's because of Chelsea's style of play. Hoof it up to Drogaba, he knocks it down, bang back of the net. Also have you seen his statistics for shots off target- highest in the league usually. If you take as many shots as him you bound to score some. He'd be lost in a team like Arsenal or Barca.

If it was that easy why do teams let it happen:)

[gustavo]

Over Rated: FRANK LAMPARD, Ibrahimovic, John Terry, Ronaldinho, Nakamura, Jamie Carragher, Micah Richards, Essien, Ashley Young, Nani, Robbie Keane, Didier Drogba, Ashley Cole and FRANK LAMPARD.(God damn it I hate Frank Lampard!!!!!!:mad::mad:)


I dont think any of those players are over rated :rolleyes:
You're ust picking players that are recognized as being good that play with bigger clubs and then saying oh these are over rated

[mr miyagi]

Well at least we all agree Xabi Alonso is underrated :D

[chuckie]

Over rated: Jamie Carragher, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lampard, Ronaldinho, Henry, Stephen Hunt, Adebayor, Ledley King, Paul Robinson, Berbatov, Hargreaves, Rooney, Zambrotta, Ballack, Adriano

Under Rated: Iniesta, Agger, Torres, Vidic, Huddlestone, Finnan, Van Persie, Arteta, Mark Noble, Saha, Huntelaar, Van Der Vart

[sligo23]

Over rated: Jamie Carragher:eek:, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lampard, Ronaldinho, Henry, Stephen Hunt, Adebayor, Ledley King, Paul Robinson, Berbatov, Hargreaves, Rooney, Zambrotta, Ballack, Adriano

Under Rated: Iniesta, Agger, Torres, Vidic, Huddlestone, Finnan, Van Persie, Arteta, Mark Noble, Saha, Huntelaar, Van Der Vart

jamie carragher is one of the most underrated players in world football!!!
agree with all the rest though.

[chuckie]

jamie carragher is one of the most underrated players in world football!!!
agree with all the rest though.

Would have said the same thing up until last season but now hes started to get recognition and hes not the same player he used to be, looks lost without Agger beside him