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irishfan86
13/11/2007, 10:31 PM
Is there some doubt about McShane also?
When we got to any Finals (remember them) it would take a broken bone to keep anybody out of the squad, players would be lying through their teeth about their fitness levels to get on board.

In fairness, if a player has a nagging or minor injury I don't begrudge them taking what is essentially a friendly off, and I don't think anyone else should.

kingdomkerry
13/11/2007, 10:40 PM
What time is the ko Saturday?

Serb
14/11/2007, 9:30 AM
What time is the ko Saturday?

It's at 3pm

bwagner
14/11/2007, 10:25 AM
Harte and Foley are out now ,this is a disgrace ...off course they will be fit along with o'brien come the next club game

frankbrett
14/11/2007, 10:39 AM
based on the players left, we will end up with a back four of:

Finnan O'Shea McShane Kilbane or
Finnan McShane Bruce O'Shea

neither inspire much confidence!

gwhite
14/11/2007, 10:46 AM
I'd like to see Kilbane benched for this and go with
Given/Doyle
Finnan McShane Bruce O'Shea
McGeady Carsley Reid Hunt
Doyle Keane
If/when Keane misses a couple of 1st half sitters and throws his hands in the air to blame some flash photography or something, I hope Givens shows some stones and subs him at half time.

Littlest Hobo
14/11/2007, 10:56 AM
I'd go with the following team;

Given

Finnan
Mc Shane
O 'Shea
Kilbane

Mc Geady
Reid
Carsley
Hunt

Keane
Doyle

Too strong on paper for wales. But then arn't we always:rolleyes:

Kingdom
14/11/2007, 11:07 AM
I'd go with the following team;

Given

Finnan
Mc Shane
O 'Shea
Kilbane

Mc Geady
Reid
Carsley
Hunt

Keane
Doyle

Too strong on paper for wales. But then arn't we always:rolleyes:


That team I would be happy enough with. It would have been nice to try and groom someone for Carsley's role but I don't think that will happen.

Dr. Ogba
14/11/2007, 11:09 AM
why the hell has St. Ledger not been called up?


I can say hell on here can I?? :rolleyes:

gwhite
14/11/2007, 11:20 AM
The sooner the new manager comes in the better, it appears some of Stan's bizarre decision making has clearly rubbed off the people around him. No recognised left-back in the squad, 2 underperforming strikers who make cameos for their clubs. And as for Pat Devlin, Stan's parrot, his squad for the B game with the Scots is a joke.

Wolfie
14/11/2007, 12:19 PM
I can say hell on here can I?? :rolleyes:

You can indeed, but I think "heck" might have gone well there also.

danonion
15/11/2007, 2:34 AM
I'd probably line up with:

Murphy

Finnan_O'Shea_McShane_O'Dea

McGeady_Carsley_Reid_Kilbane

______Stokes__Keane/Doyle

I'm going with Joe Murphy in nets because Joe Murphy is a cool name. If Given is 100% I don't want him to play. If he gets injured and is on the sidelines it will not be good for his career.

Kilbane's confidence has to be shot, I think his performances at left full for Wigan have answered the long standing question of whether or not he can do a job there for us. I would start him on the left side of midfield, just to cap him and hope he stays on for another campaign.

Wales should be shat enough for McGeady to actually play reasonably.

I'm sick of Keane/Doyle axis, and due to a crap selection of forwards in the squad, I'll go with either Keane or Doyle and Stokes.

Super Lee Carsley will want to play this game. He's proud of playing for Ireland and wants to get as many caps as possible at 33 years of age.

Stephen Hunt is doubtful, but if he is fully fit he could start ahead of Kilbane

Hopefully Givens will grow a sack and name his own skipper, maybe give it to Joe Murphy for a laugh.

mackannovic
15/11/2007, 9:32 AM
Douglas out.

Hardly the best news of the week?

mackannovic
15/11/2007, 9:35 AM
I'd probably line up with:

I'm going with Joe Murphy in nets because Joe Murphy is a cool name. If Given is 100% I don't want him to play. If he gets injured and is on the sidelines it will not be good for his career.



I doubt Given is worried about his career sure there's any number of clubs that'd take him, any number of clubs better than Newcastle too. If he was worried about his career he should have left that nothing club a long time ago.

Stuttgart88
15/11/2007, 9:59 AM
Hardly the best news of the week?Hardly the worst either.

mackannovic
15/11/2007, 10:49 AM
Hardly the worst either.


OK I was being sarcastic. Sorry I didn't use a poxy smiley to highlight this.

Douglas shouldn't have been in the squad in the first place.

lionelhutz
15/11/2007, 11:08 AM
I'd probably line up with:

Murphy

Finnan_O'Shea_McShane_O'Dea

McGeady_Carsley_Reid_Kilbane

______Stokes__Keane/Doyle

I'm going with Joe Murphy in nets because Joe Murphy is a cool name. If Given is 100% I don't want him to play. If he gets injured and is on the sidelines it will not be good for his career.

Kilbane's confidence has to be shot, I think his performances at left full for Wigan have answered the long standing question of whether or not he can do a job there for us. I would start him on the left side of midfield, just to cap him and hope he stays on for another campaign.
Wales should be shat enough for McGeady to actually play reasonably.

I'm sick of Keane/Doyle axis, and due to a crap selection of forwards in the squad, I'll go with either Keane or Doyle and Stokes.

Super Lee Carsley will want to play this game. He's proud of playing for Ireland and wants to get as many caps as possible at 33 years of age.

Stephen Hunt is doubtful, but if he is fully fit he could start ahead of Kilbane

Hopefully Givens will grow a sack and name his own skipper, maybe give it to Joe Murphy for a laugh.

What an utterly ridiculous remark and one which makes no sense whatsoever

Stuttgart88
15/11/2007, 12:23 PM
OK I was being sarcastic. Sorry I didn't use a poxy smiley to highlight this.

Douglas shouldn't have been in the squad in the first place.
Sorry, couldn't tell, but agree with smileys being poxy.

danonion
15/11/2007, 12:55 PM
What an utterly ridiculous remark and one which makes no sense whatsoever

Way to make an utterly nonconstructive remark. Kilbane turns up and gives a performance regardless of his club form and the squad would be weaker if he goes.

lionelhutz
15/11/2007, 1:55 PM
Way to make an utterly nonconstructive remark. Kilbane turns up and gives a performance regardless of his club form and the squad would be weaker if he goes.

The "just to cap him" remark is what i meant made no sense. Can you explain that? No player should ever start with an international side "just to get a cap".

And i doubt very much that starting against wales in a meaningless match with the team in limbo will affect whether he stays on in the next campaign.

And for what its worth, I've no doubt he'll still be around next September. whether thats a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion

carloz
15/11/2007, 2:02 PM
why the hell has St. Ledger not been called up?


I can say hell on here can I?? :rolleyes:


Err, take a look at the championship table. He along with most of the Preston team have been very poor this season. Still I think he merits a place in the squad ahead of a player who is doing well to get on the bench for Celtic. Darren O'Dea does not deserve to be in the squad at the moment. Paddy mcCarthy would have been an option also maybe

Dr. Ogba
15/11/2007, 3:32 PM
Err, take a look at the championship table. He along with most of the Preston team have been very poor this season. Still I think he merits a place in the squad ahead of a player who is doing well to get on the bench for Celtic. Darren O'Dea does not deserve to be in the squad at the moment. Paddy mcCarthy would have been an option also maybe

Think Paddy McC is injured (well according to the other thread anyway!)....Reason I mentioned Sledge (as his friends probably may or may not possibly perhaps call him) is that he's getting rave reviews in a struggling team and we're not exactly blessed with talent in that position. He has potential and at least should be involved in the squad at this stage...

kingdomkerry
15/11/2007, 7:21 PM
Id go with:

Given
Finnan McShane O'Dea O'Shea
McGeady Reid Carsley Hunt
Keane Doyle

shakermaker1982
15/11/2007, 7:37 PM
sky sports news is now reporting that Keane could miss the game with a foot injury. Does this mean Stokes partners Doyle or would Givens put 5 men in MF?

Bluebeard
15/11/2007, 8:36 PM
I keep seeing this word Carsley. Oh people, no, no!

Friendly with some bite - time to throw on someone who (a) is a long term prospect and (b) has heard of the game of football.

Carsley isn't an Irish Dunga, like many seem to think.

Come to think of it, he isn't even an Alan Reynolds.

Time to give Joe Gamble a game...

eirebhoy
15/11/2007, 9:33 PM
I keep seeing this word Carsley. Oh people, no, no!

Friendly with some bite - time to throw on someone who (a) is a long term prospect
The long term prospects for Carsley's position aren't in the squad.

irishfan86
16/11/2007, 12:36 AM
I'd throw in James McCarthy, he has more going for him than the rest of them put together.

That's actually not a bad idea. Throw him on for 15 minutes and get him locked in for sure. :D

gustavo
16/11/2007, 8:42 AM
James McCarthy, he has more going for him than the rest of them put together.

:rolleyes:
What a ridiculous statement , I have no doubt the guy is highly talented , But then again so are a lot of our squad

Dr. Ogba
16/11/2007, 8:45 AM
I keep seeing this word Carsley. Oh people, no, no!

Time to give Joe Gamble a game...

if this is a p**s-take its quite funny....well done!


If not....:eek:

SuperDave
16/11/2007, 8:52 AM
The "just to cap him" remark is what i meant made no sense. Can you explain that? No player should ever start with an international side "just to get a cap".
And i doubt very much that starting against wales in a meaningless match with the team in limbo will affect whether he stays on in the next campaign.

And for what its worth, I've no doubt he'll still be around next September. whether thats a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion

Darren Gibson?

Ho hum. :rolleyes: