Who we Want? [Archive]

Maroon 7

05/11/2007, 8:38 PM

Well Lads and Lassies, Who would ye like to see coming in for next season. Who should stay and who should go. Who can we be realistic to sign and who not. And please before anyone says it..........Mooney is very average IMO

Mooney might be average but he knows where the net is better than any of our current strikers.

I imagine they'll be a fair few clubs in for him though.

Vital that we recruit well this Winter as it'll be an even bigger dogfight next season. Defensively I think we're not too bad. For example Sligo have conceded 9 more goals than us, Cork have only conceded 3 less and St Pat's 5 less. We haven't been scoring enough though (UCD, Bray and Longford have all scored more) so we definitely need some new faces up front and in midfield.

Tir Oilean

05/11/2007, 8:48 PM

We will have to wait and see obviously but first things first Tony and Nick will have to knock out contracts for the players we want to keep. And from looking at other threads on foot they might have to persuade some to stay. All the best players in the league will be swallowed up by the clubs with the big bucks (Drogs etc.) We'll be left with the rest to battle for. I think we might find it easier to attract players now that we have stayed up (then again I could be completely wrong!) I wouldn't rule out a few more coming in from across the pond either.

Conor H

05/11/2007, 10:00 PM

TC has been very mixed in his signings.

Players like Brianias,Yeboah and Armstrong were very poor choices.
Robson and Fitzy were good acquisitons.

Very important we get rid of at least 7 of the squad and sign 2 goalscorers.

Tir Oilean

06/11/2007, 12:02 AM

Claret Murph

06/11/2007, 6:49 AM

[QUOTE=Conor H;807713]Yeboah and Armstrong were very poor choices.
QUOTE]

Why do you say these were poor choices? Mensah was injured in his first game and Armstrong didnt last too long before he got injured. Hardly Cousins' fault! As for Brinias......nuff said.

I can see what Conor was getting at as i know Armstrong has a history of injury but again as a manager you roll the dice and some you win and some you lose .
I was a big fan of Armstrong as I could see him leading the front line very well and was good with his head but even if he did stay fit how many of Derek's crosses would he have managed to get to .
Now as for Mensah he looked sharpe in the friendly up in Corofin who reminded me of some chap called Eric, well I better move on after that one .

WoodquayBoy

06/11/2007, 7:51 AM

Get rid of Murphy. Then maybe Moran, Cooke, Reilly.
Defence is not too bad, though we do need a left back. Could do with a couple of wide men and someone who knows how to score, so even if Mooney is average in some people's eyes, he scored a hell of a lot of goals for the side who are bottom, so snap him up.
Do we keep the manager as well?

JC_GUFC

06/11/2007, 8:15 AM

Mooney will never join us.
He wants to go over to England and there are a few clubs watching him at the moment, if that falls through he'll join a Dublin club over us.

We need a left back a right winger, a goalkeeper (for cover) and a striker as well as 7 or 8 other players! ;)

If Harps don't get up obviously Gethins should be a target for us. There aren't too many available players for the other positions so maybe Tony will have to use his contacts for the rest.

I think it's pretty obvious to everyone the players who aren't up to it and there's no point keeping these. Tracey and Faherty probably should be kept hold of as they're young and have potential.

Tir Oilean

06/11/2007, 10:00 AM

We need a left back a right winger, a goalkeeper (for cover) and a striker as well as 7 or 8 other players! ;)

Well why not go all out and get a left winger and move Derek to the right? (thats if we can hold onto him)?

gufct

06/11/2007, 11:11 AM

Who ever we sign will be signed under tight budgetary controls so expecting to sign the likes of Mooney who will be looking for serious money is pie in the sky.

Tony and Nick were very shrewd in their signings last season so expect a better standard of player but if it goes to an auction we are way down the financial ladder.

UCD paid a playeyer higher wages tha United could offer last season so realism rather than clutching at straws and bankrupting the club is what will decide who we sign.

gufct

06/11/2007, 11:46 AM

Tony is a fully Qualified Coach with all his badges so tell me who should he bring in that would be better qualified than himself.

Thanks vinny for enlighthenig us all on VF's wage packet im sure he shown you his payslip.The club has a very tight budget and sticks to it vinny unlike at least 6 other teams in the Division.Our full playing budget inclucding management is up to a quarter of some of the big spenders and no it didnt help that UCD were Dublin Based it helped that they were able to pay more than us.

gufct

06/11/2007, 1:14 PM

Rovers have the pick of all the players who for various reasons cant go fulltime in Dublin and their playing budget would be much the same as ours for this season and could be actually bigger than our full time budget next season. Our backroom staff is a hell of a lot bigger than that Vinny.

DmanDmythDledge

06/11/2007, 1:18 PM

UCD paid a playeyer higher wages tha United could offer last season so realism rather than clutching at straws and bankrupting the club is what will decide who we sign.
A full time club with a budget of roughly �1m couldn't pay as much as us?:eek: It seems to me that you're making stuff up. Maybe you could say who the players was and how much he is on at UCD. by PM even if you do not want to post it on the forum.

Patrick Dunne

06/11/2007, 1:18 PM

The manager comments about the lack of a budgets is an insult to
the supporters, sponsors, club officials and staff who have contributed approx E1.2million towards the cost of running Galway United this season.

The squad have been provided with Premiership training facilities, meals after training, a preseason trip to Spain, top class arrangements for away travel etc.

Our budget is twice that of Waterford United, who could still finish level on points with us. But for a points deduction, we would be level with cash-strapped Longford Town.

The manager should concentrate on preparations for next season, instead of spurious excuses about this seasons performances.

Tir Oilean

06/11/2007, 1:31 PM

A full time club with a budget of roughly �1m couldn't pay as much as us.

The budget of �1.2m is for the total running of the club not exclusively for players wages.

There are a number of problems with splashing the cash on top quality individuals. If they get injured you have to pay out anyway without getting the use of their services (see Armstrong and Mensah). The rest of the squad will want a bigger slice of the pie which simply isnt there (just yet). If we had a sugar daddy we'd be spending all over the place but we don't. So Nick is keeping the purse strings fairly tight. I'd prefer a steady progression for the club rather than digging a hole for ourselves with the banks. 8th this season, mid-table next season then we should be prepared to left fly with the cheque book.

MyTown

06/11/2007, 1:46 PM

Is it me or is this thread becoming the second unofficial ballot on the Manager's future at the club?

If so, fair enough.

Read 'arry Redknapp's views here (http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/7078848.stm) (down the page a bit).

Imagine what he'd make of this Forum? :D. Still, for balance, it's good to hear one manager's opinion, or is it just nasty propoganda?

gufct

06/11/2007, 2:05 PM

Pa or el Mullo the playing Budget is almost half the entire budget so you are being very selective and for our Famous UCD Fan I will pm you the players name and boy werent we lucky we missed him. Carping on about Tony and the players all the time is getting very boring and some of the stuff that has been posted is wholly untrue and every little thing that happens is being blown out of all proportion .

What Tony said in his interview wasnt moaning it was stating a fact there 4/5 clubs in the league who have budgets up to 4 times ours so we have to try and pick up bargains along the way.

Mr A

06/11/2007, 2:08 PM

What has the other half of the budget been spent on?

gufct

06/11/2007, 2:19 PM

we own nothing .We have rent to pay for Terryland,Drom,we have five full time office staff,An U21 team to run plus all the other bits and bobs.Our playing budget this year was �670,000 and we have some of the players on 2 year contracts who will be paid in the off season.

People see a budget of �1.2m and think we are paying huge wages put that is far from the truth. I wonder what the full budget for Drogheda, Bohs, Pats , Cork & Derry is .

A bit of realism is all im asking for rather than some of the posts that fly around here even after we have achieved what our target was at the start of the season and with a bigger even challenge coming up next year.

Good luck on Saturday hopefully ye will do it but that is only when the hard work begins as the cost of survival is getting bigger every season.

Mr A

06/11/2007, 2:29 PM

No problems with the 65% wage cap for GU then. The expense levels do seem particularly high though.

gufct

06/11/2007, 2:31 PM

I forgot our contribution to the development and upkeep of Terryland and Drom does not come cheap but it is a world class facility.

WoodquayBoy

06/11/2007, 2:55 PM

Carping on about Tony and the players all the time is getting very boring
You know what else is getting boring? You're admonishment of anyone who comes on here and refuses to adopt the 'tra la la la la, everything is wonderful' attitude that you have. You can't grow stronger unless you address your faults. You can't address them unless you pinpoint them. So refusing to see anything is wrong will mean we will not progress.

gufct

06/11/2007, 3:28 PM

I never said everything was perfect and would be a fool to believe it was. We have moved on steadily as a club over the last 4/5 years by building year on year.

Some of the posters on here use the forums to have a pop at people players and Tony in Particular some of it is warranted but some is totally over the top and a lot of untruths in their too.I dont mind people having a pop when they have a gripe about whats going wrong but some players seem to get it in the neck all the time which is very unfair.

Patrick Dunne

06/11/2007, 3:40 PM

Most posters have nothing personal against the management and staff.

We just want the club to do well and are pointing out highlights, strengths, weaknesses and deficiencies throughout the season.

A interesting statistic - two of our full-time professional strikers have played 34 Premier Division games between them this season. They have scored no goals.

I'm sure that they are nice lads, and are very passionate about the club, as is the manager. But facts are facts, and there has to be an improvement next year.

corbyeire

06/11/2007, 3:43 PM

very good point

Conor H

06/11/2007, 4:56 PM

You know what else is getting boring? You're admonishment of anyone who comes on here and refuses to adopt the 'tra la la la la, everything is wonderful' attitude that you have. You can't grow stronger unless you address your faults. You can't address them unless you pinpoint them. So refusing to see anything is wrong will mean we will not progress.

I've been saying that to him for about a year.He choses not to listen.
It is awful annoying then when your support is questioned simply because we don't think the management or certain players are up to scratch.

As i said on the other forum gufct your counter arguement is based on beliefs.
Mine,and many others,are based on facts.
Keith Kelly has done an excellent job on reprting the games accurately this year.He has quite correctly said it hasn't been good enough on numerous occasions and that the majority of our play has been hoofball-which entitles us to wonder what exactly is been done in drom.
The manager should also be based in Galway.Simple as that.

gordongekko

06/11/2007, 5:28 PM

The manager should also be based in Galway.Simple as that.

It must be difficult getting players to move to Galway when the manager wont even move here.

corbyeire

06/11/2007, 6:02 PM

yea ive mentioned keith kelly on here before - no blinkers or agendas with his articles - just straight up - not like the free rags

Paddyfield

06/11/2007, 6:51 PM

It must be difficult getting players to move to Galway when the manager wont even move here.

Nail on the head.

gilberto_eire

06/11/2007, 10:32 PM

according to Football manager theres a jimmy cousins :D

Patrick Dunne

06/11/2007, 10:57 PM

Youth Development Officer : Bartley Barrett
Team Doctor : Dan Murphy
U21 Manager : Billy Clery
U21 Assistant : Gareth Gorman
U21 Goalkeeper Coach : Mark Cobey

GUST LFC Manager : Lonan O'Farrell
GUST Nightowls Manager : Ronan Coleman

eamo1

06/11/2007, 11:03 PM

the weak link in that lot there is Ronan Coleman;).Our budget should be spent getting a new night owls manager,he barely kept them up last season:).

Patrick Dunne

06/11/2007, 11:08 PM

A Coleman/Clery managerial dream team would do the trick.

Clerys tactical knowledge and experience, combined with Colemans
ability to shout "Come on United, get into them" at regular intervals,
would work wonders for morale.

gordongekko

06/11/2007, 11:10 PM

U21 Assistant : Gareth Gorman

Holy **** hes back :)

gordongekko

06/11/2007, 11:14 PM

Nail on the head.

And i never even broke the queens bank :) Questions need to be asked despite what gufct says!!!!

Conor H

06/11/2007, 11:20 PM

On the evidence of some of the "tactics" we've deployed this season TC must have got one or two of his licences out of a lucky bag.

There's no point of getting a few new good players and then bypassing them by hoofing it up front every time.:rolleyes:

I'll fully support TC if he is still in charge next year but he has to change alot of aspects and alot of his own methods.

There's no point of taking the narrow view of "Sure didn't we finish 8th and stay up?"
The reality is the football was very poor in Terryland this year and we won a paltry 3 games....a2 of which have come in the last month.
People won't turn up week in week out if we're not going to attempt to play football.We've seen that we can do it and we have a few very good players-so again it goes back to TC as to why we don't produce it most weeks(0bviously not all).
The most important signing in the off season is a Coach.

Claret Murph

07/11/2007, 6:45 AM

The most important signing in the off season is a Coach.

I would say one with a toilet would be very handy ;););)

GuisaSaigon

07/11/2007, 9:04 AM

I would say one with a toilet would be very handy

:D:D:D

JC_GUFC

07/11/2007, 11:14 AM

To be fair Conor, I think you're pretty selective on what you remember. In Waterford I thought we played very good football and when we beat Longford we played very well in the second half.

You've obviously seen more games than me but I don't think we just hoof the ball at every opportunity.

I'd agree that Tony should be based in Galway. If he wants to be the full-time manager of a full-time club then he can't be worried about anything else. If the job doesn't suit him he shouldn't have taken it.

The last time we were in the Premier was a complete shambles, we were drawing 0-0 in Monaghan and both teams were just hoofing the ball from one end of the pitch to the other. I shouted out "Have we no tactics at all?!" and the coach at the time stood up from the dugout, flapped his arms about a big and the players just kept hoofing it up. The game finished 0-0 and the players were happy to get a point after the game. Monaghan only got 11 more points that season, we only got 17 more.

That performance, like ours earlier in the season are probably more down to the players being under pressure and maybe even previous managerial influences.

Last season we played good football under Tony in Division 1 and given his playing career in the league I doubt he's a supporter of the Dermot Keely style of play.
It's all very well wanting the team to play like Brazil but the only team in the league which play consistantly good football is Cork and they're unhappy with Damien Richardson because at times that costs them points (like when we go there and put 9 men behind the ball!)

At this stage I think a lot of people have made up their minds and will give out no matter what he does, like giving out about 4-5-1 the last night.

Conor H

07/11/2007, 12:24 PM

There's a difference between playing like Brazil and passing the ball.

Comparing us to the last time we were in the Premier isn't an accurate comparison.
The last time we were there we weren't full time,we didn't train every day of every week and we didn't have near the resources we have now.
We've played our best football all season for a 3 game spell when we beat Bray,Longford and Pats so we are capable but for some reason aren't delivering.
We played some good stuff in Waterford but even the week previous against Derry we were very poor.

I hope Tony makes a success out of it and hopefully with one or two changes he will.Big tesrt next year with 3 going down so we have to be on the ball straight away next season.

gufct

07/11/2007, 1:15 PM

Conor can I correct you without being called a fool.

The last time we wre in the premier we did have full time players (Eric,Luther,Ryan,Ger Crossley,Scotty Morgan were five im probably missing a few) and staff.Arrangements were also made with the players employers that some of them were allowed to take off work to train with the full timers and those that couldnt trained in the evenings.

Also one of your facts about 5 players not living in Galway City or County is untrue and if you check with the office there is a check everyday on whose training that is the Truth not a belief.

Im not questioning peoples support but some of whats posted on here about Tony and the Players is totally over the top and worse than any other forum I have seen as except fort whats posted on Vinnys Forum but i wont even go into that.

Reasoned balanced discussion is fine even if we dont agree with each other but Im still allowed to have an opinion.

Conor H

07/11/2007, 1:30 PM

Gufct people are giving out to you on the other forum because they feel they can't have an opinion unless it's 100% support of TC.

Also i stand by my point that the squad of 94' didn't have as much resources as the current squad.They couldn't possibly have had.

I've heard from about 5 or 6 people about a few players(at least 3) that don't live in Galway.I didn't say they weren't at training every day.

I've only said what alot of others have said-you just chose to highlight my points,for obvious reasons.

MyTown

07/11/2007, 1:41 PM

Gufct people are giving out to you on the other forum because they feel they can't have an opinion unless it's 100% support of TC.

I'm not amember of the other forum, so I don't know what's going down, but it seems to me that on this Forum it is exactly the converse of what you claim above.....you can't have an opinion that supports OUR CURRENT MANAGER without being accused of being maroon tinted, propogandist, yes-men and worse.

One clown has even managed to suggest that the "older" posters (what age does he have in mind I wonder?) on Foot are blinkered and are prepared to put up with the (presumably sub-standard) fare on offer in Terryland since the mid 1970s.

Anyway Conor, on a happier note congratulations on 3,000 posts.

gufct

07/11/2007, 1:41 PM

Connor there are 2 players who for Family reasons dont stay in Galway every night of the week but that doesnt mean anyone misses training.

Yes they are way better resourced than any other Galway United Team but that is the way the eircom league has gone.The last time we were in the premier our budget would have been very big compared to most other clubs bar Shelbourne and Bohs.

Patrick Dunne

07/11/2007, 2:08 PM

The manager and players have to be based in Galway, end of story.

Any excuses about family etc, are for spoofers. If professionals at the club
can't make this committment, they should do the honourable thing and resign.

gufct

07/11/2007, 2:15 PM

Vinny no one is questioning peoples support i have said that at least 20 times both .
But balanced reasonable discussion and fair play is what a forum should be rather than some people using it to slate Tony and certain players non stop.

gufct

07/11/2007, 2:25 PM

Conor H

07/11/2007, 2:26 PM

I'm not amember of the other forum, so I don't know what's going down, but it seems to me that on this Forum it is exactly the converse of what you claim above.....you can't have an opinion that supports OUR CURRENT MANAGER without being accused of being maroon tinted, propogandist, yes-men and worse.

One clown has even managed to suggest that the "older" posters (what age does he have in mind I wonder?) on Foot are blinkered and are prepared to put up with the (presumably sub-standard) fare on offer in Terryland since the mid 1970s.

Anyway Conor, on a happier note congratulations on 3,000 posts.

Don't know who you're on about there but i certainly wouldn't agree with him.

I know alot of the "older" posters agree with the suggestion that TC mighn't be the right man for the job.
It's only an opinion.
Reasonable balanced opinions gufct are been offered-it's just you see the opinions as unfair and irrelevant.
To many,the players should all live here,you see that as an unbalanced discussion as you do when people say TC should be based in Galway.
Nobody slates the players personally at all nor does anyone have an agenda against Cousins.

gufct

07/11/2007, 2:32 PM

Don't know who you're on about there but i certainly wouldn't agree with him.

I know alot of the "older" posters agree with the suggestion that TC mighn't be the right man for the job.
It's only an opinion.
Reasonable balanced opinions gufct are been offered-it's just you see the opinions as unfair and irrelevant.
To many,the players should all live here,you see that as an unbalanced discussion as you do when people say TC should be based in Galway.
Nobody slates the players personally at all nor does anyone have an agenda against Cousins.

Conor all your points are fair but the last sentence destroys it all anyone that goes on Galwayunitedfc.net dont have to take my word for it.