David O'Leary

[Scram]

I think that is about a 90% NO vote thus far. He's outta here.............next !

[NeilMcD]

Yeah a Poll here would be good just to confirm it. Nothing like a stat for the Star to grab a hold of.

[hamburg paul]

Swordsman , maybe this is the kick in the town halls that cartwheel keane has deserved ! i.e Dol turning up as our new manager,as you mentioned Keane was not first choice under him at Leeds and the first thing that any new man should do is to strip this Clown of the captaincy and leave him to on the bench !maybe then he will get his ...e in gear !Dol and Brian Kidd ,with some input from Chippy!if Bill has nothing against that!So the knobs in merrion sq should just stop this charade and put the new man in charge for the Welsh game ,after all our next competitive game will be September next year !

[Scram]

Yeah a Poll here would be good just to confirm it. Nothing like a stat for the Star to grab a hold of.

That's up to mods I guess.

ps. On The Ball poll on NEwstalk last night Zero votes for O'Leary, Mourhino was tops but that's just ridiculous.

Should do the same with all of the top candidates and see if we get majority agreement on one man, or a team.

Foppe De Haan for me, but I doubt many will agree with that, after all, he never scored for Ireland :rolleyes:

[CollegeTillIDie]

Jack Charlton never scored for Ireland either and he got us to two World Cups and a European Championship. Scoring for Ireland should be a bar on becoming manager in future, which should prevent Robbie Keane ever getting the management gig :D

[bellavistaman]

Coppell Jol, Jewell or Souness please.

[The Swordsman]

Swordsman , maybe this is the kick in the town halls that cartwheel keane has deserved ! i.e Dol turning up as our new manager,as you mentioned Keane was not first choice under him at Leeds and the first thing that any new man should do is to strip this Clown of the captaincy and leave him to on the bench

Remember, at Leeds, Keane was competing with Viduka and Smith. We don't have players of that quality.

I'm not convinced by Doyle - watching him in the last couple of games he looked clueless. I hope I'm proved wrong and that he's just lacking confidence at the moment.

Who else is there?

For that reason, dropping him to the bench would be madness. As frustrating as Keane can be, we still need him.

And it would not help build bridges between DOL and RK.

If there is one thing we should have learnt from recent experience is that it does not help where a manager and one of his top players don't get on.

Sorry for going off point a bit here but I can understand why RK would not be fond of DOL. O'Leary never gave him a fair chance when he was at Leeds.

One time, Leeds were playing Man U at Old Trafford and Robbie had a stormer. Leeds got a free just outside the Man U box. Robbie took it and put it into the top corner. For some inexplicable reason, the ref made Leeds take the kick again which caused some controversy. Later in the game, Beckham caught Keane with a bad tackle. Keane reacted and pushed Beckham to the ground for which he got a yellow card. He was lucky , it could have been red - another controversy.

In the post match interview, the first thing O'Leary said was that he had just told Keane that he was very lucky to stay on the pitch.

Could you imagine Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho or any other top manager coming out and saying that. The first thing they would have talked about was the free kick. If they were asked about the incident with Beckham, they would have mentioned the tackle and blamed the opposing player. They would have defended their player to the hilt.

[Lionel Ritchie]

In the post match interview, the first thing O'Leary said was that he had just told Keane that he was very lucky to stay on the pitch.

Could you imagine Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho or any other top manager coming out and saying that. The first thing they would have talked about was the free kick. If they were asked about the incident with Beckham, they would have mentioned the tackle and blamed the opposing player. They would have defended their player to the hilt.

I actually kind of admired him for calling a spade a spade that way. He was at least consistent. He also said of a then 20 year old Alan Smith that it was absolutely disgraceful that he'd clocked up seven sendings off at that stage of his professional career. But he wasn't just putting him down, nor Robbie either, he was saying he expected and demanded better from them.

[SuperDave]

I actually kind of admired him for calling a spade a spade that way. He was at least consistent. He also said of a then 20 year old Alan Smith that it was absolutely disgraceful that he'd clocked up seven sendings off at that stage of his professional career. But he wasn't just putting him down, nor Robbie either, he was saying he expected and demanded better from them.

yeah but no manager should ever mention that stuff in public. you criticise your players in private and back them up in public. one team approach. i don't think do'l signs up to all that though, and is always fuking moaning, blaming players, weather, the ref etc etc. at least stan had the decency to publicly share responsibility and admit management was not up to scratch. I don't DOL has ever done that. ever. I know i for one couldn't listen to that ****.

[Scram]

yeah but no manager should ever mention that stuff in public. you criticise your players in private and back them up in public. one team approach. i don't think do'l signs up to all that though, and is always fuking moaning, blaming players, weather, the ref etc etc. at least stan had the decency to publicly share responsibility and admit management was not up to scratch. I don't DOL has ever done that. ever. I know i for one couldn't listen to that ****.

Can't see FAI hiring a guy ready to write a book about it if he fails!

A foreign manager fails and he goes home, end of story....which would you prefer if you are the FAI?!

[Irish_Praha]

Can't see FAI hiring a guy ready to write a book about it if he fails!

A foreign manager fails and he goes home, end of story....which would you prefer if you are the FAI?!

I hope the FAI appoint someone other than O'Leary but if they do give him the job they could easily avoid the potential of an embarrassing book by including a clause in his contract.

[Irish_Praha]

O'Leary won't be writing any more books.
You plan on getting the Ned and the boys from the meat packing plant to pay him a visit? :D

[NJTom]

No!
No!
No!

[Plastic Paddy]

He's actually an alright bloke if people give him a chance.

Is he a personal friend TP or are you just supposing?

Many people have publicly indicated exactly the opposite. Tony Cascarino's assessment of DOL was that "he's two-faced - the type of bloke who says 'top man' to your face and then slags you off behind your back". Alternatively you can have the story (don't have the source or quote to hand) that, at Leeds, he knew the name of the chairman's wife but not that of the captain of the youth team.

I don't want this chancer anywhere near the Ireland manager's job, thanks.

:ball: PP

[The Swordsman]

I actually kind of admired him for calling a spade a spade that way. He was at least consistent. He also said of a then 20 year old Alan Smith that it was absolutely disgraceful that he'd clocked up seven sendings off at that stage of his professional career. But he wasn't just putting him down, nor Robbie either, he was saying he expected and demanded better from them.


Keane had a great game - he could have said that. He always seemed to criticise his players rather than praise them. When Ireland played Cameroon in the World Cup, O'Leary was working for the BBC and kept going on about the weaknesses in Robbie's game. He went on so much that Martin O'Neill asked him if he would be prepared to sell Keane to him.

BTW, did anyone see the Irish Mail yesterday. Didn't see it myself, but there was a guy reading it on the bus I was on and the headline on the back page seemed to suggest that Robbie wants O'Leary. I didn't get a good look at it as the guy kept moving the paper. I was going to ask him to stop messing around and that i wanted to see what was on the back page, but he might have taken it the wrong way :D.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Is he a personal friend TP or are you just supposing?

Many people have publicly indicated exactly the opposite. Tony Cascarino's assessment of DOL was that "he's two-faced - the type of bloke who says 'top man' to your face and then slags you off behind your back". Alternatively you can have the story (don't have the source or quote to hand) that, at Leeds, he knew the name of the chairman's wife but not that of the captain of the youth team.

I don't want this chancer anywhere near the Ireland manager's job, thanks.

:ball: PP

Everything there about the professional football manager David O'Leary is a direct quote from the professional gambler Tony Cascarino made on the Last Word years ago. There's no "story" there at all ...just speculation and opinion from the man who'd get short odds on "former Irish player most likely to be found face down in a ditch with a cap in his ass."

O'Leary might be a lick-arse I don't know. But I'm damn sure which of that pair I'd rather have sitting next to me on a plane when the face-masks drop and the emergency lights come on.

[Plastic Paddy]

Fair enough Lionel, I see and, to an extent, I accept your point. How about "Leeds United On Trial" then? Four words that, to me, say exactly why DOL should not get the Ireland job. As a matter of interest, you being a LUFC fan and all, how did you feel about this book when it was published? And what of the conduct and timing of the author?

:ball: PP

[Lionel Ritchie]

Fair enough Lionel, I see and, to an extent, I accept your point. How about "Leeds United On Trial" then? Four words that, to me, say exactly why DOL should not get the Ireland job. As a matter of interest, you being a LUFC fan and all, how did you feel about this book when it was published?

:ball: PP

It's like most football books. That is -quite badly shadow written. You can tell from the patter of it that he's dictating ...probably down a phone line. As someone else pointed out he'd nothing to do with the title, and I'll add, the serialisation which was done by whatever newspaper out of money spinning mischief. It was a terribly ill-advised project to involve himself in ...but journalists and publishers side-up to football people all the time and tell them they have to strike while the iron is hot y'know -and the whole Leeds story was very hot at the time. Not just the trial either -serious football writers were talking about the "power-base of English football crossing the Pennines" and that sort of thing.

But there's chapters of it well worth reading just to see how the guy can cope under pressure. Better managers than him would've fared no better in the situation they had in the CL run-in where they'd basically a police incident room set up at Thorpe Arch and he didn't know who he'd have for training from one day to the next.

[geysir]

If it was only Cas slagging off O'Leary then you might have a point. But it's not, his presence makes the skin crawl off an awful lot of people.
It's been discussed before about Cas's book and articles about O'Leary.

I think Cas would be a good guy to have in consultation about the appointment of our new manager.

[NeilMcD]

jesus no. Cascarino is rent a quote and does not have a clue about football. His articles for HOt Press and his work for Today FM is embarassing, he makes Jamie Redknapp sound like Arsene Wenger. I would not consult him regarding should I have a ****e or not never mind the important job of Ireland manager.

[Lionel Ritchie]

jesus no. Cascarino is rent a quote and does not have a clue about football. His articles for HOt Press and his work for Today FM is embarassing, he makes Jamie Redknapp sound like Arsene Wenger. I would not consult him regarding should I have a ****e or not never mind the important job of Ireland manager.

What that man said. If Tony Cascarino proclaimed that grass was green and water wet I'd be inclined to check for myself.

[Stuttgart88]

I'd ignore anything the bookies' odds imply on any new manager. They create rumours and bring in odds dramatically (remember Venables last time) in a cyncical attempt to encourage more bets.

O'Leary is a far better manager than Staunton but is not the answer. I loved him as a player but he's a slippery self-serving snake, just like the giuy he'd be working for. No, despire my knee jerk clamour for him around the time of the Slovakia game.

[Den Perry]

Coppell is class. I've been to Reading FC training and I've watched him at close quarters. He's a class act. Madejski will back him to the hilt in January with cash, but maybe he feels he has done his bit at the club and wants something else.
He was being mentioned for the England job not so long ago and he'd have been a far better bet than McClaren.

If he's that class how does he persevere with arguably the worst keeper the premiership has ever had in his team?

[Den Perry]

Not just yet! Just know for a fact that he felt very sore about the way that all worked out. He wasn't even consulted on the title and flipped when it came out as it did. He's actually an alright bloke if people give him a chance.

No, no no. I actually think he did a pretty good job at Leeds until he wrote that book which was unforgivable...did any of you read it it. He is so far up his own hole, went on about drinking Krug champagne....about his friendship with the horse trainer David Loder, which he couldn't even spell properly....

[eekers]

if it came to it i'd rather o'leary than brady, venables, souness, houillier or haan even though he's a prrick.
but he should be behind hodgson, coppell, jol and allardyce in the pecking order.

[Noelys Guitar]

Just said on Skynews that he is interested in managing a national team and not necessarily Ireland.

[Noelys Guitar]

O'Leary once more bookies favourite at 5/2.
http://www.itv-football.co.uk/story/0,19239,6145_3003704,00.html

[carloz]

He has always stated his love to manage Ireland some day. At a guess id say he has rejected the request on similar grounds to Souness i.e. he is not a complete gob****e and he knows this is all window dressing to make El Tel manager

[Dr. Ogba]

no quotes in that article?

not that i'd really give a sh*te whether he's interested in the job or not...

[Jerry The Saint]

The Republic's selection panel of Don Givens, Ray Houghton and Don Howe are leading the search for a new national team manager, and will draw up a shortlist for the FAI Board of Management.

But O’Leary will not be on that list after confirming that he will not seek the nomination

:D

It all makes sense now - the whole thing is being run like the US Presedential elections.

Venables is the front-runner because he won a couple of early primaries but I don't think he'll have enough support to win in the General Election.

Johnny Giles is John McCain (experienced, fought heroically for our nation in his youth, pretty freakin' old)

Hoddle is Huckabee due to his quirky religious views.

Deschamps represents the youthful, Barack Obama-type, candidate for change. Would be wildly popular but lacks the experience of other candidates. Also, are we sure we can really trust him...? :eek: ;)

Finally, I would say that Mick is Hillary - they've both been there before, know their way around the place. Main problem is that they would split the country with many people still bearing a grudge. Against that, they may benefit from the sympathy vote, with lots of people believing they were cruelly ****ed over by the most important man in their life...

[passinginterest]

That's genius. If I can figure out how to do it I'll nominate for POTM.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Post of the Month??? That's Post of the Year!! Brilliant, round of applause for that man!

:D:D

[Ireland4ever]

Excellent Post Jerry! Im still laughing.

[Wolfie]

:D

It all makes sense now - the whole thing is being run like the US Presedential elections.

Venables is the front-runner because he won a couple of early primaries but I don't think he'll have enough support to win in the General Election.

Johnny Giles is John McCain (experienced, fought heroically for our nation in his youth, pretty freakin' old)

Hoddle is Huckabee due to his quirky religious views.

Deschamps represents the youthful, Barack Obama-type, candidate for change. Would be wildly popular but lacks the experience of other candidates. Also, are we sure we can really trust him...? :eek: ;)

Finally, I would say that Mick is Hillary - they've both been there before, know their way around the place. Main problem is that they would split the country with many people still bearing a grudge. Against that, they may benefit from the sympathy vote, with lots of people believing they were cruelly ****ed over by the most important man in their life...

..........................and the FAI represent the approx 150 million idiots that voted for the likes of Bush as their leader last time.

[galwayhoop]

Quality Jerry!! POTM

[L37Ultra]

Delighted :D

[Metrostars]

Who is the Dick Cheney character? Delaney?

[passinginterest]

And Stan makes a perfect George W,

"Have no doubt, San Marino have weapons of mass destruction, they'll be a force in this group"

"I'm the gaffer and I'll lead the war on terror to avenge the atrocities inflicted on our nation by Cyprus"

[the doc]

This does not surprise me at all, I spoke to a couple of the Irish players the other week and they said that no one any good wants the job! and that most think the selection panel are a joke!

[amaccann]

He has always stated his love to manage Ireland some day. At a guess id say he has rejected the request on similar grounds to Souness i.e. he is not a complete gob****e and he knows this is all window dressing to make El Tel manager
I'm sure he would love to manage Ireland, but like Souness, didn't want to be interviewed for the job cos he's far too important for that kind of common behaviour. Never underestimate the power of the ego :)

[Denis The Red]

I'm sure he would love to manage Ireland, but like Souness, didn't want to be interviewed for the job cos he's far too important for that kind of common behaviour. Never underestimate the power of the ego :)

Or maybe he and Souness both know that Terry Vegetables is going to get the job anyway. God preserve us.

[amaccann]

Or maybe he and Souness both know that Terry Vegetables is going to get the job anyway. God preserve us.
Remains to be seen at this stage.

[Paddy Garcia]

That's genius. If I can figure out how to do it I'll nominate for POTM.

Agreed, very very good.

[Morbo]

I agree with the agreers, quality post

[lionelhutz]

He has always stated his love to manage Ireland some day. At a guess id say he has rejected the request on similar grounds to Souness i.e. he is not a complete gob****e and he knows this is all window dressing to make El Tel manager

Both Souness and O'Leary would be awful choices. Venables is streets ahead of these two imho

[tetsujin1979]

According to some reports, it looks like the dream team approached O'Leary to see if he was interested. I had thought it was supposed to be the other way around, i.e. if a manager was interested in the job, he had to approach the 3 wise men?

[irishfan86]

According to some reports, it looks like the dream team approached O'Leary to see if he was interested. I had thought it was supposed to be the other way around, i.e. if a manager was interested in the job, he had to approach the 3 wise men?

I think they are approaching people- Hodgson stated a month or two ago that he had never approached a job, they had always come to him, and he didn't intend to change that, and yet he was talked to about the Ireland job.

So that tells me they are approaching candidates.

[Stuttgart88]

I'd have been furious if the Dons didn't actually approach people. I thought it was to work both ways.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Both Souness and O'Leary would be awful choices. Venables is streets ahead of these two imho

What are you basinhg that on? Venables took the same squad O'Leary had never been out of the top 5 with and would have had them relegated had he not been sacked that March. Seems clear cut to me.

[Morbo]

So which candidate is the John Edwards of the group aka the pretty boy, Jason McAteer maybe