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dcfc_1928
23/10/2007, 12:40 PM
The rumours supposedly relating to SK and his private life are bullsh*t.

Dunfermline supporters now even seem to agree that they were all part of some whispering campaign earlier in the year to try and discredit him.

The Glasgow Herald even published an apology for suggesting that private issues had put his job at Dunfermline in jeopardy.

A lot of Dunfermline supporters are suggesting that much of this is coming from a senior member of the DAFC playing staff.

CollegeTillIDie
23/10/2007, 1:51 PM
Decades ago there was a plan mooted to pipe the Camac in concrete pipes and build a stand on the far side straddling the river. The rumour at the time was that St. Pat's owned a significant parcel of land on the other bank of the river from the terraced side . Can anyone confirm this?

Dodge
23/10/2007, 1:53 PM
Decades ago there was a plan mooted to pipe the Camac in concrete pipes and build a stand on the far side straddling the river. The rumour at the time was that St. Pat's owned a significant parcel of land on the other bank of the river from the terraced side . Can anyone confirm this?

yes...

CollegeTillIDie
23/10/2007, 1:57 PM
Dodge... I have good sources then ;)

Flexy
23/10/2007, 2:58 PM
There was some talk about his personal life not long ago, including him leaving issues before he left here. If he was to leave I wouldnt be one bit suprised if he and Robbo were to swap, with Robbo going to Dunfermline.

He has made it clear that he wants to return to Scotland not too far down the line, and he was linked to the Inverness job with a wall of silence from him, no comment on it until they got Brewster. Its really a wait and see time.
I have heard exactly the same, wouldn't surprise me if there was a swop involved. How do you feel Derry fans would take to him coming back.

Aaron
23/10/2007, 4:36 PM
I have heard exactly the same, wouldn't surprise me if there was a swop involved. How do you feel Derry fans would take to him coming back.

It would be mixed, abit like the Dolan situation at Cork, alot of fans like him and alot dont. There afe many who are angry at him walking out on us, but on the other hand many believe he was our best manager and would take him back in an instant. I'm undecided on whether i'd want him back

bad mongo
23/10/2007, 5:02 PM
Decades ago there was a plan mooted to pipe the Camac in concrete pipes and build a stand on the far side straddling the river. The rumour at the time was that St. Pat's owned a significant parcel of land on the other bank of the river from the terraced side . Can anyone confirm this?

Decades ago there was a plan to fill inthe grand canal and create a new road in Dublin. Decades ago there was no EU environmental directives or respect for biodiversity. Any Pat's fans that think they are cantilevering or culverting over the Camac are deluded. I dunno if you will stay in Richer but that's a non-runner and if that's the spin you have bought into then expect to be heading west eventually.

kdjaC
23/10/2007, 5:48 PM
Dodge... I have good sources then ;)

It was in a program mid 90s that Roadstone offered to pipe the camac and provide material for a stand.

Awesome source :)


kdjac

Dalymountrower
23/10/2007, 6:18 PM
Decades ago there was a plan mooted to pipe the Camac in concrete pipes and build a stand on the far side straddling the river. The rumour at the time was that St. Pat's owned a significant parcel of land on the other bank of the river from the terraced side . Can anyone confirm this?

They`ve recentlytried to claim adverse posession of that land and develop "trainining facilities"but have got short shrift from Dublin C.C. Thats what officials in DCC are saying anyway. Not being denied by Pats posters I note.

dortie
23/10/2007, 6:23 PM
I'm undecided on whether i'd want him back

Im with you on this one, id actually like to give Robbo a go from season kick off, he was left in a bad situation when he arrived.

kdjaC
23/10/2007, 6:24 PM
They`ve recentlytried to claim adverse posession of that land and develop "trainining facilities"but have got short shrift from Dublin C.C. Thats what officials in DCC are saying anyway. Not being denied by Pats posters I note.

DCC is very welcoming as to what k wants to do, its all on the DCC website.

All the re zoning plans are there.


kdjac

Dalymountrower
23/10/2007, 7:39 PM
DCC is very welcoming as to what k wants to do, its all on the DCC website.

All the re zoning plans are there.


kdjac

I know of two re-zonings on the south bank of the Camac close to Richmond, one of them being to the factory at the back of the goal Manasaram scores into for fun:D, nothing on the other side of the Camac bank though. Have you a reference for the re-zoning applicaton?

kdjaC
23/10/2007, 7:54 PM
I know of two re-zonings on the south bank of the Camac close to Richmond, one of them being to the factory at the back of the goal Manasaram scores into for fun:D, nothing on the other side of the Camac bank though. Have you a reference for the re-zoning applicaton?

yes.


kdjac

bad mongo
23/10/2007, 9:57 PM
yes.


kdjac

Tis very simple. Pat's won't get to build anything over the Camac. For Richer to be developed to any kind of acceptable level it would involve turning the playing surface, Mr K to donate some of his current asbestos-roofed shed site to ground building. Use whatever ground the club own on the far side of the camac for some amenity use or as a planning gain for buidlding whatever hgh density flagship devlopment he has in mind.

There would maybe be enough room to build some kind of stadium similar to this 8k capacity gem from the Basque country.


http://www.barakaldocf.com/instalaciones

to do this would require 40-50M in my opinon given the site constraints and the civil engineering work, an unimaginable act of altruism. If he does it I will tip my hat to him, much easier to throw something up for 20M out in the burbs.

the rezoning of his asbestos sheds from z6 to z14/z1 is hardly the news of the century.

kdjaC
23/10/2007, 10:23 PM
Tis very simple. Pat's won't get to build anything over the Camac. For Richer to be developed to any kind of acceptable level it would involve turning the playing surface, Mr K to donate some of his current asbestos-roofed shed site to ground building. Use whatever ground the club own on the far side of the camac for some amenity use or as a planning gain for buidlding whatever hgh density flagship devlopment he has in mind.

There would maybe be enough room to build some kind of stadium similar to this 8k capacity gem from the Basque country.


http://www.barakaldocf.com/instalaciones

to do this would require 40-50M in my opinon given the site constraints and the civil engineering work, an unimaginable act of altruism. If he does it I will tip my hat to him, much easier to throw something up for 20M out in the burbs.

the rezoning of his asbestos sheds from z6 to z14/z1 is hardly the news of the century.


Who said they were building over the camac, dcc website has all the minor details.

nice walkway along the camac :)


kdjac

sonofstan
23/10/2007, 11:02 PM
the rezoning of his asbestos sheds from z6 to z14/z1 is hardly the news of the century.

i can remember exactly what i was doing when I heard it...

bad mongo
23/10/2007, 11:15 PM
Who said they were building over the camac, dcc website has all the minor details.

nice walkway along the camac :)


kdjacIndeed it is. I can really see Oprah and all Mr. Kelleher 's Chicago buddies moving over to live in the fabulous 5 storey mixed use development mooted by the corpo in the Inchicore Framework Plan for his sheds. I admire your optimism.

soccerc
23/10/2007, 11:21 PM
Indeed it is. I can really see Oprah and all Mr. Kelleher 's Chicago buddies moving over to live in the fabulous 5 storey mixed use development mooted by the corpo in the Inchicore Framework Plan for his sheds. I admire your optimism.

LOL

They are not his sheds, they are Micéal Sammons. ;)

bad mongo
23/10/2007, 11:28 PM
LOL

They are not his sheds, they are Micéal Sammons. ;)

Is he responsible for the half-baked plannign application for 126 apartments on the site that means Pats won't ever be able to expand in that direction?
I look forward to the unveiling of richer's redevelopment scheme- it will have to be ground breaking to make any sense-The world's first roof garden staduim perhaps?

Dr.Nightdub
23/10/2007, 11:51 PM
Is he responsible for the half-baked plannign application for 126 apartments on the site that means Pats won't ever be able to expand in that direction?

Even I know the planning application for 126 apartments won't mean diddly squat, it's only the planning permission which will mean that. Plus which the Corpo like us (not the worker bees, the ones who look for votes).

As for turning the pitch to face the other direction, I have it on dodgy authority from someone who's worked on three LoI grounds but has been known to wind me up big time in the past that if we try piping over the Camac we'll end up with a big skanky streak down the middle of the pitch cos of different drainage conditions.

Not to worry, Special K will simply tell god to stop the river flowing, kinda like Moses did.

cestlavie
24/10/2007, 1:38 AM
Although, SK left good memories on the whole at Derry, I dont think him returning to Derry would work out. Going back to something just coz of good memories does not always work out, Its like going back with an auld ex, rarely works:D Staunton for Dungfermline

Dalymountrower
24/10/2007, 8:09 AM
yes.


kdjac



I see it on the site now kdjac, thanks. Cantilever stand, hanging gardens,the Camac providing a veritable tunnel of love under the new stand.
Pharmacists dispute must be over so.

Schumi
24/10/2007, 10:30 AM
if we try piping over the Camac we'll end up with a big skanky streak down the middle of the pitchRe-signing Trevor Molloy?

TonyD
24/10/2007, 12:37 PM
Nah, keeping Glen Fitzpatrick. :D

bigmac
24/10/2007, 1:26 PM
The world's first roof garden staduim perhaps?

The world's second (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tignepoint.JPG) surely :D

CollegeTillIDie
24/10/2007, 3:42 PM
Pat's wouldn't be the first roof garden stadium. I think the Louis II in Monte Carlo is on the roof of a carpark. :D

Boh_So_Good
24/10/2007, 7:34 PM
That's priceless that is. A DCFC fan slagging off another clubs stadium ambitions. Other than a mystical journey in to quantum end of the electromagnetic field, what infrastructural "plans" (and I mean this in literal terms) does Derry have? A new deep fat fryer in the chip van or a new motor for the rabbit? "Improved access" at the Brandywell is oiling the squeak on the dog traps.

Kenny would be wise to go to Pat's now before he is pushed.

dcfcsteve
25/10/2007, 12:47 PM
That's priceless that is. A DCFC fan slagging off another clubs stadium ambitions. Other than a mystical journey in to quantum end of the electromagnetic field, what infrastructural "plans" (and I mean this in literal terms) does Derry have? A new deep fat fryer in the chip van or a new motor for the rabbit? "Improved access" at the Brandywell is oiling the squeak on the dog traps.

Kenny would be wise to go to Pat's now before he is pushed.

There is a difference betwen "slagging off" stadium plans, and questioning how an extremely enclosed site is capable of being redeveloped. Not everything that questions something a club is doing is "slagging off".... :rolleyes:

As for Derry's stadium plans, they are very well afoot thank you. This should help you keep up a bit better with life outside of Dublin....

http://www.derrycityfc.net/season/07/news/displaystory.php?storyid=182

Dodge
25/10/2007, 1:09 PM
As for Derry's stadium plans, they are very well afoot thank you. This should help you keep up a bit better with life outside of Inchicore....

He's a Bohs fan. :rolleyes:

And are those the "they're not really the plans for the Brandywell, they're only generic stadium plans" plans

MariborKev
25/10/2007, 3:47 PM
Other than a mystical journey in to quantum end of the electromagnetic field, what infrastructural "plans" (and I mean this in literal terms) does Derry have? A new deep fat fryer in the chip van or a new motor for the rabbit? "Improved access" at the Brandywell is oiling the squeak on the dog traps.

Kenny would be wise to go to Pat's now before he is pushed.


£12-15m redevelopment of the entire stadium complex
- New stands
- New retail facilities
- 3rd gen training facilities

btid1
25/10/2007, 4:16 PM
£12-15m redevelopment of the entire stadium complex
- New stands
- New retail facilities
- 3rd gen training facilities

And I'm going to be the next Taoiseach!!

How do you propose to pay for all this?

Aaron
25/10/2007, 4:30 PM
And I'm going to be the next Taoiseach!!

How do you propose to pay for all this?

Funding from the FAI, the British and Irish Governments and other sources AFAIK

dcfcsteve
25/10/2007, 11:11 PM
And I'm going to be the next Taoiseach!!

How do you propose to pay for all this?

Without any Angel of Mercy/Death property developers..... :D

The First stage of the scheme involves retail units on the Brandywell sports centre side of the site. They will provide funding (and an ongoing revenue stream) that will be added to funds secured froma variety of sporting and non-sporting bodies north and south.

The club does have to find some money itself as well - but only a portion of the total costs. Money from third parties doesn't appear to be proving much of an obstacle.

The Brandywell plans are certainly at a more advanced stage than the plans for either Richmond Park or any new Bohs or Drogs stadiums are, for example.
Maybe we should invite you to the eventual opening in your capacity as An Taoiseach....?

dcfcsteve
25/10/2007, 11:13 PM
He's a Bohs fan. :rolleyes:

And are those the "they're not really the plans for the Brandywell, they're only generic stadium plans" plans

Well maybe he should worry more about his club's own stadium plans then....

The Brandywell plans are at a relatively advanced stage - as outlined above. Certainly appear to be at a more advanced stage than the plans for Richmond Park.

DvB
26/10/2007, 7:37 AM
The Brandywell plans are at a relatively advanced stage - as outlined above. Certainly appear to be at a more advanced stage than the plans for Richmond Park.


They dont need any, they'll just copy the ones used next door, 288 apartments i believe was the total granted PP there!!:D

Koh

btid1
26/10/2007, 9:14 AM
Without any Angel of Mercy/Death property developers..... :D

The First stage of the scheme involves retail units on the Brandywell sports centre side of the site. They will provide funding (and an ongoing revenue stream) that will be added to funds secured froma variety of sporting and non-sporting bodies north and south.

The club does have to find some money itself as well - but only a portion of the total costs. Money from third parties doesn't appear to be proving much of an obstacle.

The Brandywell plans are certainly at a more advanced stage than the plans for either Richmond Park or any new Bohs or Drogs stadiums are, for example.
Maybe we should invite you to the eventual opening in your capacity as An Taoiseach....?


And I look forward to attending in my official capacity but only if the game is against Bohs.

Listen you take the money where you get it and that just happens to be a developer in Bohs case.

Good to hear that the Irish taxpayer is once again funding something north of the border.Maybe Bohs,Pats and Drogs should apply to the British Government for some funding!;)

Jerry The Saint
26/10/2007, 9:39 AM
The Brandywell plans are certainly at a more advanced stage than the plans for either Richmond Park or any new Bohs or Drogs stadiums are, for example.


I'm very impressed with your attempts at point-scoring over which club has the swankiest artist's impression, scale model and/or fly-through of their future plans. Check the stadium update thread - the league has moved on from the days when clubs would announce something just to keep from losing their grant money. No one outside Derry cares that you have a virtual tour of someone else's stadium on your website.

Come back to us and gloat when you're sitting in your fancy new stadium and Pats and Bohs haven't made any improvements or (God Forbid!) are sharing a one-sided Tallaght Stadium with Thomas Davis, Rovers, Shels and Sporting South Dublin FC (the poor pitch will take an awful hammering :().

dcfcsteve
26/10/2007, 9:52 AM
And I look forward to attending in my official capacity but only if the game is against Bohs.

Even Man U-loving Bertie isn't that blinkered..... :eek:


Listen you take the money where you get it and that just happens to be a developer in Bohs case.

Indeed. Though you do have to ask questions as well. Unless you want to end up like Shels or Shamrock Rovers...


Good to hear that the Irish taxpayer is once again funding something north of the border.Maybe Bohs,Pats and Drogs should apply to the British Government for some funding!;)

And good to see your partitionist sentiments coming to the fore. Though some of your fans are more worried about applying to the British authorities for bail and clemency at this particular moment, rather than stadium funding..... :o

bigmac
26/10/2007, 10:17 AM
Pat's wouldn't be the first roof garden stadium. I think the Louis II in Monte Carlo is on the roof of a carpark. :D

Yeah, I thought that as well, and I had some sort of impression of the one in San Sebastien being on top of a car park too?

kdjaC
26/10/2007, 10:45 AM
Yeah, I thought that as well, and I had some sort of impression of the one in San Sebastien being on top of a car park too?

Amsterdam arena is over one too, Milltown is under one :D


kdjac

btid1
26/10/2007, 10:46 AM
Indeed. Though you do have to ask questions as well. Unless you want to end up like Shels or Shamrock Rovers...
Members of Bohs will know that there are more than enough controls in place to make sure we dont go the way of Shels or Rovers.Dont worry about us we are not niave in the art of doing business!




And good to see your partitionist sentiments coming to the fore. Though some of your fans are more worried about applying to the British authorities for bail and clemency at this particular moment, rather than stadium funding..... :o
*Call me what you like be that partitionist or whatever but I dont do the whole Northern politics debate and certainly could not be put in the same box as any of those assh*les who are hopefully rotting in their cells around now.All I know is I pay my taxes and would prefer to see them spent in my jurisdiction and considering the so called Government of this country refuse to help sporting organisations based in the Republic (ie Bohs) I dont see why they should fund Derry City FC.This is nothing against DCFC, as they are a club I have a lot of time for, its just a financial gripe.

*Disclaimer: Do not want to start a political debate just airing a view.

dcfcsteve
26/10/2007, 11:55 AM
Yeah, I thought that as well, and I had some sort of impression of the one in San Sebastien being on top of a car park too?

It'd be a sensible use of space in an expensive city like Dublin to have a pitch over a car park.

Though very few other clubs building a new stadium in big cities have done it, so maybe there's a good reason..

Dodge
26/10/2007, 12:13 PM
There's a car park under the nou camp too