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Noelys Guitar
19/08/2007, 8:43 PM
In the immortal words of the Da from 'Dirty Dancing'.. "When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong."... Hunt has to start for Ireland

Hunt has been outstanding in all of Readings first 3 games. It is great to see. He will cause the Slovaks and Czechs no end of problems.
Stuttgart88
19/08/2007, 8:53 PM
In the immortal words of the Da from 'Dirty Dancing'.. "When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong."... Hunt has to start for Ireland Fair play! By the way, I think you of all people here would appreciate what I mean by "anticipating the mistake". I think you've referred to it before talking about Robbie. I love seeing it being rewarded.
tetsujin1979
19/08/2007, 10:10 PM
Hunt has been outstanding in all of Readings first 3 games. It is great to see. He will cause the Slovaks and Czechs no end of problems.
According to some reports Hunt will pull out of the squad with a thigh strain :(
dr_peepee
19/08/2007, 11:22 PM
Fair play! By the way, I think you of all people here would appreciate what I mean by "anticipating the mistake". I think you've referred to it before talking about Robbie. I love seeing it being rewarded.

Definately... Except when it's David Healy though:D
co. down green
20/08/2007, 12:02 AM
McShane & Elliott out

Gibson in ;)
shakermaker1982
20/08/2007, 7:42 AM
Hunt definitely out. Running low on players already!
bellavistaman
20/08/2007, 8:13 AM
Hunt definitely out. Running low on players already!

Should call Hallloran, or other left leg player in. Ian Harte:rolleyes:
Stuttgart88
20/08/2007, 8:30 AM
LHS options are now what? Kilbane, Andy Reid or Alan O'Brien? McGeady?
Dr. Ogba
20/08/2007, 8:58 AM
Thought Dunne was outstanding, worked his ass off all day. Would have got MOTM if he was English and Richards was Irish!:(

Yeah Richards was excellent in the first half (especially when covering for Dunne when Tevez had him caught for pace in one instance) but when the backs were against the wall in the last 20 or so Dunne was immense. Unsurprisingly Sky barely even acknowledged him and decided to give motm to the latest English "flavour of the month"...their coverage sometimes is absolutely shocking (Jamie Redknapp ffs :rolleyes:)
Bungle
20/08/2007, 9:20 AM
Regarding Colin Doyle, he was generally very good against West Ham on Saturday. He was responsible for the penalty...but he made some terrific saves that many keepers wouldn't make.

Stephen Kelly is playing very consistently also.
tetsujin1979
20/08/2007, 9:21 AM
Yeah Richards was excellent in the first half (especially when covering for Dunne when Tevez had him caught for pace in one instance) but when the backs were against the wall in the last 20 or so Dunne was immense. Unsurprisingly Sky barely even acknowledged him and decided to give motm to the latest English "flavour of the month"...their coverage sometimes is absolutely shocking (Jamie Redknapp ffs :rolleyes:)
Over the course of the game I thought richards was marginally better than Dunne, and I didn't disagree with him getting MOTM.
shakermaker1982
20/08/2007, 9:28 AM
I turn it off when Jamie opens his mouth. What made me laugh yesterday was Gray thinking Malouda ran into Agger instead of Finnan yesterday.........this is after 15 replays with Finnan's number and name on his shirt clearly in view!!!!
bellavistaman
20/08/2007, 9:45 AM
Think Dunne was 2nd best too, Richards was class.
Stuttgart88
20/08/2007, 10:31 AM
Hunt definitely out. This morning's Indo says he should be ok.
shakermaker1982
20/08/2007, 10:50 AM
This morning's Indo says he should be ok.


that's good news if true. The guardian this morning had reported that he has defo pulled out of squad because of a thigh strain and severe cramp.
bellavistaman
20/08/2007, 1:04 PM
McShane- injured
Elliot-Injured
Ireland-Sick
Douglas-finalising transfer

All out so far, no mention of Hunt yet
tetsujin1979
20/08/2007, 1:12 PM
Douglas-finalising transfer
transfer?? transfer to where?
Stuttgart88
20/08/2007, 1:39 PM
transfer?? transfer to where?Burnley? Saw a rumour somewhere.
bellavistaman
20/08/2007, 2:46 PM
transfer?? transfer to where?

ya sorry, they didnt say to who
Stuttgart88
20/08/2007, 3:10 PM
Who's "they"?
tetsujin1979
20/08/2007, 3:15 PM
Stephen Ireland out of the game according to Man City's site: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=464773 (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid=%7BDBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80%7D&newsid=464773)

illness prevents Stephen Ireland from joining up with the Republic of Ireland squad
tricky_colour
20/08/2007, 5:48 PM
Is he out of the hunt for a place on Wednedsay I think it said elsewhere he was but it is unclear.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2007/08/20/reading-1-0-everton-89520-19661269/
zenokelly
20/08/2007, 7:55 PM
NO he'll be fit for Wed. Kevin McDonald (stood in for Stran today) said he only sat out training today as a precaution and would have played if the match was today??!
eirebhoy
20/08/2007, 9:55 PM
No option but to play O'Shea and Dunne at centre half with McShane out.
Fergie's Son
20/08/2007, 9:57 PM
Why not call up O'Dea?
eirebhoy
20/08/2007, 10:10 PM
Why not call up O'Dea?
He hasn't played a minute of first team football this season. I don't think he has earnt a call up yet.
dr_peepee
20/08/2007, 10:29 PM
Bring Andy O'Brien back into the squad.
craig7042
20/08/2007, 10:35 PM
I'll take SKY, BBC, ITV or anyone rather than the bitter, cynical "agenda"of RTE anyday......
New season...new feeling...no Dunphy for me this year thanks!!
bellavistaman
21/08/2007, 7:56 AM
Stephen Ireland out of the game according to Man City's site: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid={DBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80}&newsid=464773 (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pagegid=%7BDBD12D53-8346-431D-A04F-5D0F8664DE80%7D&newsid=464773)

anybody know what the sickness is, its gasto something but in non medic terms please
paul_oshea
21/08/2007, 8:25 AM
ah does of the sh1ts bellavista.
Dr. Ogba
21/08/2007, 9:37 AM
I'll take SKY, BBC, ITV or anyone rather than the bitter, cynical "agenda"of RTE anyday......
New season...new feeling...no Dunphy for me this year thanks!!

good man, if vacuous views are your thing then have at it. I'd sooner listen to guys with a bit of knowledge than the tripe being peddled by those channels...
bellavistaman
21/08/2007, 9:38 AM
ah does of the sh1ts bellavista.

:D:D. poor ****er. Cheers
bellavistaman
21/08/2007, 9:39 AM
good man, if vacuous views are your thing then have at it. I'd sooner listen to guys with a bit of knowledge than the tripe being peddled by those channels...

i reckon they'll start going down the ronaldo route with Richardson, slate him every week i think.
craig7042
21/08/2007, 9:28 PM
good man, if vacuous views are your thing then have at it. I'd sooner listen to guys with a bit of knowledge than the tripe being peddled by those channels...

Its not about "vacuous views", its about integrity and a generally positive approach. If RTE say something, you know theres an angle with it. For example they slated Sunderland after they beat Spurs and immediately me and wife looked at each other and said "there ya go! Sunderland are the team this year who they hate." And they will now work on them week in week out relentlessly because thats the decision that was made. Same with Leeds when they were good years ago - not a bad word EVER on RTE, while Liverpool were treated like idiots back then (dispite winning that treble that time). Same with UTD and Ronaldo last season - nothing good to say.

They just decide who they like and who they dont and thats that. Thats not proper critique cause noone is always good or always bad.

It sickens me that people actually take that approach seriously.
NeilMcD
21/08/2007, 9:53 PM
Well I watched teh Spurs Sunderland game and I could not believe Sky raving about them. I told my brother that Sunderland were very poor and that they would be found out if they continued to play like that and they could not pass the ball. Low and behold Johnny Giles says the same on RTE and sees beyond the usual Sky hype and the fact he did not have the chairman sitting beside him and pointed out what anybody who knows anthing about football could see, which was that Sunderland could not pass the ball with any sort of precision or accuracy. A mate who was over at the game said the same to me the other day.

Spurs were very slow with teh ball but clearly had more ability. Anyway I digress but basically Giles was bang on again.
tetsujin1979
21/08/2007, 9:55 PM
to be fair, the "everything is illuminated" myopia served up by Andy Grey and the head cheerleader masquerading as a critic that is Jamie Redknapp is far inferior to anything the panel on RTE have ever done. FourFourTwo and When Saturday Comes both commented favorably on The Premiership on RTE compared to MOTD and Sky Sports last season.
Give me Gilsey and the lads any day.
Sligo Hornet
22/08/2007, 6:18 AM
to be fair, the "everything is illuminated" myopia served up by Andy Grey and the head cheerleader masquerading as a critic that is Jamie Redknapp is far inferior to anything the panel on RTE have ever done. FourFourTwo and When Saturday Comes both commented favorably on The Premiership on RTE compared to MOTD and Sky Sports last season.
Give me Gilsey and the lads any day.

Poor Jamie, you have to feel for the lad.......he turns up every week on Sky obviously having attended yet another funeral!!:D
geysir
22/08/2007, 12:14 PM
No sign of the team for tonight yet. I suppose this is due to Stan arriving late rather than a ploy to keeping the Danes guessing.
bellavistaman
22/08/2007, 12:15 PM
No sign of the team for tonight yet. I suppose this is due to Stan arriving late rather than a ploy to keeping the Danes guessing.

is stan actually going to the game.
paul_oshea
22/08/2007, 12:16 PM
ya met up with them late last night.
Kingdom
22/08/2007, 12:28 PM
Hasn't Kilbane been playing left back for Wigan so far this season? surely this would be an option for ireland perhaps? Because I don't see/wouldn't like him to feature in centre mid for us, but his aerial ability is a positive for the team and if he was capable, would far rather him play left back than move Finnan out of RB
shakermaker1982
22/08/2007, 12:30 PM
Hasn't Kilbane been playing left back for Wigan so far this season? surely this would be an option for ireland perhaps? Because I don't see/wouldn't like him to feature in centre mid for us, but his aerial ability is a positive for the team and if he was capable, would far rather him play left back than move Finnan out of RB


yeah he has and I thought he was best player on park when they beat Boro last week.
danonion
22/08/2007, 12:31 PM
Hasn't Kilbane been playing left back for Wigan so far this season? surely this would be an option for ireland perhaps? Because I don't see/wouldn't like him to feature in centre mid for us, but his aerial ability is a positive for the team and if he was capable, would far rather him play left back than move Finnan out of RB

That might be an out of the fire into .. situation. Move Kilbane to the back four and all of a sudden (to take a Dean Kiely quote) you have John O'Shea "filling in that midfield dynamo" role
livehead1
22/08/2007, 12:40 PM
Doyle with a hat-trick tonight
antrimgreen
22/08/2007, 12:48 PM
With Kilbane playing so well at left back, good old Stan will probably start him at right back and play Finnan at left back :confused:
bellavistaman
22/08/2007, 12:55 PM
Halloran should be there for a friendly FFS. Basically the usa tour meant nothing. I thought after that hed be given another shot against higher opposition, where the result isnt vital. Obviously stan has other ideas.
shakermaker1982
22/08/2007, 12:56 PM
How I'd line up tonight as a result of all the pull outs....

-----------Henderson----------

Finnan---Dunne---O'Shea---Kelly

McGeady---Potter---A Reid---Hunt

-------Doyle---------Keane------


I imagine Stan will opt for Kilbane instead of Potter.
bobloblaw
22/08/2007, 12:56 PM
Suppose Staunton's gonna play Finnan at left back again?!? Why should he be the one shunted around to accommodate Carr, who's done nothing for years now. :mad: Its decisions like this, and giving Keane the arm band, that give me no faith whatsoever in Staunton.
cheifo
22/08/2007, 12:59 PM
Without Carsley we have a problem with the holding midfielder role protecting the defence.I would love to see Gibson get a run.
paul_oshea
22/08/2007, 1:04 PM
what time is kick off?


Without Carsley we have a problem with the holding midfielder role protecting the defence.I would love to see Gibson get a run.


I assume you are speaking hypothetically there?