Is it just me

[Torn-Ado]

or are people getting whacked everyday in Ireland.

Seriously, every morning I checked the RTE website to check whats new back home and there is always someones body found lying somewhere in a field or freezer or whatever.

Its becoming a problem me thinks. Its like one long episode of the sopranos.

[paul_oshea]

torn-ado, i notice the exact same stuff, but i think its because we are away from home you notice it more. You always check breakingnews.ie or rte.ie once a day at least and you see it, whereas when you are at home you wouldnt bother doing this and you dont take as much notice.

I do think its a combination of factors but more to do with taking notice when you are away from home, because you are reading the news a lot more.

[Torn-Ado]

torn-ado, i notice the exact same stuff, but i think its because we are away from home you notice it more. You always check breakingnews.ie or rte.ie once a day at least and you see it, whereas when you are at home you wouldnt bother doing this and you dont take as much notice.

I do think its a combination of factors but more to do with taking notice when you are away from home, because you are reading the news a lot more.

Maybe but I used to watch the news back home and there would never be much about murders in Ireland. Car crashes and tribunals on the other hand.

[noby]

Paul, you'd like to think so, but sadly it's more down to the fact that people are going around killing eachother.

Feud on RTE lastnight was a pretty grim look at the times we live in.

[osarusan]

was on the phone home to my mum the other night, she told me the amount of murders is going up. Said the same thing........murders on the news everyday.

She also said it was the immigrants fault.:o

[paul_oshea]

haha, good aul country irish woman!!!

however if you look at a lot of the stabbings they are by and to eastern europeans a lot of them, so i can see where she is coming from to a point....im reading the news i should know :D

[anto1208]

Its getting out of hand i was in work the other day and one of my work buddies came in and whacked me on the head . Im getting sick of all these whackings it has to stop some one should do something i blame the goverment .


But seriously yea lots of murders , they have even stopped reporting on lesser crimes like rape and burglary and assault etc barely makes the news these days .

[beautifulrock]

Seems like it is increasing. I live in London and feel that it is increasing here as well, 8 violent deaths last weekend alone, court case yesterday where a guy was killed becuase he mistook a "gang memeber" for a friend and greeted him on the street. This was taken as him dissing the other guy so they stabbed him, it sure is a crazy world.

[gustavo]

was on the phone home to my mum the other night, she told me the amount of murders is going up. Said the same thing........murders on the news everyday.

She also said it was the immigrants fault.:o
I suppose the murder rate in Japan is the immigrants fault too ;)

[jebus]

But seriously yea lots of murders , they have even stopped reporting on lesser crimes like rape and burglary and assault etc barely makes the news these days .

I miss the days when the main national news show would include stories like 'Mrs.Rafferty's house was burgled today' alright, Miley Byrne's Ireland is dead and gone people:(

[shedite]

Yeah one day about a weeks ago, the first 8 items on Six-One were about murders. Scary stuff

[osarusan]

I suppose the murder rate in Japan is the immigrants fault too ;)

trust me, everything which is wrong with japan is the foreigners fault.


Yasukuni shrine and museum (http://www.yasukuni.or.jp/english/) Scroll down to the "A correct view of history" paragraph.

or

Gaijin Crime Magazine (http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=192). Gaijin means foreigner. A magazine devoted to displaying some of the many crimes foreigners commit daily. Scroll down for excerpts from the magazine.

[Monkfish]

trust me, everything which is wrong with japan is the foreigners fault.


Yasukuni shrine and museum (http://www.yasukuni.or.jp/english/) Scroll down to the "A correct view of history" paragraph.

or

Gaijin Crime Magazine (http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=192). Gaijin means foreigner. A magazine devoted to displaying some of the many crimes foreigners commit daily. Scroll down for excerpts from the magazine.

Didnt the National Front in England have a magazine called 'bulldog' simular to this type of thing in 70's?

[pineapple stu]

It's probably un-PC to say it, but an awful lot of these people appear to shall, for want of a better phrase, have had it coming to them. Drug dealers, gang leaders, dodgy foreigners. No big loss really. Obviously that's not meant to be a generalisation of every case, but I'm not exactly feeling threatened by scumbags whacking each other (almost added an "off" there...).

That said, there has been an increase in "body found" stories lately. (Another one found by the road in Louth today. Foul play not suspected, according to the latest reports on Aertel.) Could be just a statistical anomoly though.

[SkStu]

It's probably un-PC to say it, but an awful lot of these people appear to shall, for want of a better phrase, have had it coming to them. Drug dealers, gang leaders, dodgy foreigners. No big loss really. Obviously that's not meant to be a generalisation of every case, but I'm not exactly feeling threatened by scumbags whacking each other (almost added an "off" there...).


couldnt agree more. these people are for the most part vermin, As one poster on the Bohs message board likes to call them. Everytime i hear of a gangland related murder im just thankful that its another scumbag off the street.

[TonyD]

It's probably un-PC to say it, but an awful lot of these people appear to shall, for want of a better phrase, have had it coming to them. Drug dealers, gang leaders, dodgy foreigners. No big loss really. Obviously that's not meant to be a generalisation of every case, but I'm not exactly feeling threatened by scumbags whacking each other (almost added an "off" there...).

The only thing wrong with that is that it leads to a situation where certain groups of people think they are free to shoot, stab, or otherwise do away with anyone they feel like. Sure, no one sheds many tears for drug dealers or gang members, but it all leads to the cheapening of human life, and ultimately makes people feel they can kill with impunity, for example that young bloke who was shot for simply being in wrong house when a drug dealer was topped.

[pineapple stu]

Oh absolutely. But you're generalising already to an extent. Sure, there are cases like the one you mention, but it's a large exception in these instances. You say it "leads to the cheapening of human life". You could possibly argue that, in most cases, the lives concerned were worthless anyway, given the amount of torment drugs, drug dealers, etc., can put people through.

I suppose my bottom line is that I don't feel a tabloid-esque sense of panic because scumbags are warring with each other (with occasional tragic consequences like you mentioned).

[anto1208]

I miss the days when the main national news show would include stories like 'Mrs.Rafferty's house was burgled today' alright, Miley Byrne's Ireland is dead and gone people:(

I remember hearing what was going to be on coronation street that evening on the news before :eek::D

[John83]

Oh absolutely. But you're generalising already to an extent. Sure, there are cases like the one you mention, but it's a large exception in these instances. You say it "leads to the cheapening of human life". You could possibly argue that, in most cases, the lives concerned were worthless anyway, given the amount of torment drugs, drug dealers, etc., can put people through.

I suppose my bottom line is that I don't feel a tabloid-esque sense of panic because scumbags are warring with each other (with occasional tragic consequences like you mentioned).
Problem is that the situation you're happy with creates a breeding ground for experienced killers. I prefer the plain old drug dealers myself.

[Bluebeard]

Miley Byrne's Ireland is dead and gone
It's with McCormack, in the freezer.

[paul_oshea]

I suppose my bottom line is that I don't feel a tabloid-esque sense of panic because scumbags are warring with each other

problem with this is more and more people are stepping into their shoes when they are knocked off, so its escalating its not a good problem.

bluebeard, quality post. its with oleary in the grave

[anto1208]

Yip for every "big" dealer shot 10 new ones pop up , and as allways the next generation is allways way worse .

Its silly to say they are only killing themselves let them off because there has allready been many innocent people killed the young plumber , the bouncer in limerick who was shot because he wouldnt let them into the club to deal .

They are putting bounty's now on cops heads , judges, reporters, prison wardens & even sniffer dogs . It is a lot more far reaching than them just killign each other .

[BohsPartisan]

They are putting bounty's now on cops heads , judges, reporters, prison wardens & even sniffer dogs .

And Kofi Annan!

http://blog.core10.co.uk/img/kofi_bounty.jpg

[Bluebeard]

And Kofi Annan!

http://blog.core10.co.uk/img/kofi_bounty.jpg

Classic :D

[paul_oshea]

where did you get that Bohs? classic.

[anto1208]

And Kofi Annan!

http://blog.core10.co.uk/img/kofi_bounty.jpg

I had that pic in mind when i was typing it , ill keep setting them up you keep knocking them out of the park :D

[BohsPartisan]

where did you get that Bohs? classic.

Google image search bounty on head. Knew I'd come accross something like that.

[beautifulrock]

Too much time on your hands BP, far too much time :)

[pineapple stu]

Problem is that the situation you're happy with creates a breeding ground for experienced killers. I prefer the plain old drug dealers myself.
Possibly. But if they're going to keep killing themselves - which is what my theory predicts - then I say let them.

[DIFChick]

:D BP, you made me laugh out loud with that pic! Thanks!

[paul_oshea]

BP, its not often you make a woman laugh, congratulatoins ;)

[Erstwhile Bóz]

Possibly. But if they're going to keep killing themselves - which is what my theory predicts - then I say let them.
Hmmm. That might work if they all get together and have a circular stand-off like the end of Reservoir Dogs, but otherwise after a short period of time there's going to be a big pile of dead people (the vanquished) and, more saliently, a tough and feral pack of coked-up experienced killers (the victors) with nicknames and a shedload of cool weapons. They will soon cop on that there's a whole world of unarmed naïfs out there (gentlemen such as ourselves) to be murdering to sate their frenzied bloodlust. Romper rooms. Tales will emerge of gruesome competitions between the killer gangs, in which they count Scrabble points for the letters in their victims' surnames, with double- and triple-bereaved-child scores. Throaty laughs will be general. It will be a many-gunned Gotham, but without the Batman. (And on this point, history will judge the people of Dublin South East harshly for dethroning Michael McDowell.)

It's all in the Sunday World if, à la Chomsky, you "read carefully". I, for one, am terrified.

[BohsPartisan]

BP, its not often you make a woman laugh, congratulatoins ;)

They're usually dumbstruck by my awesomeness!

[paul_oshea]

wouldnt it be great if they did have a resevoir dogs stand off though.


They're usually dumbstruck

ya i gathered that alright :p

[Bluebeard]

wouldnt it be great if they did have a resevoir dogs stand off though.

RTE could televise it, only they'd probably cut it in two for the news or something.