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Steve Bruce
22/05/2007, 1:50 PM
Bizarre then that you celebrate like loons when you get a result against a bunch of overachievers.

Losing out on the League 2 years on the trot would indicate that we weren't overachieving. Also whist we had a bad spell in the early part of the decade, our record is fairly impressive over the past 2 decades in the EL.

We celebrated like loons when we pulled back from behind against Glenavon away as well last season. What's your point?

When your 2 nil behind, no possibility of getting back into the game and then somehow do, you celebrate. Maybe that's lost with you I don't know. But it is hardly relevent to my comment.

Also my observation came from teh fact, 2 or 3 years prior to season before last you where struggling then all of a sudden you where at the top.

I am not saying you are over achieving drastically, just that your not quite as good as Drogheda/Cork and Previously Shelbourne.

Why go on the defensive all the time? Just give your opinion and be done with it. I'm not trying to argue, just making an observation, if you disagree fair enough, but it's my opinion.

lofty9
22/05/2007, 2:00 PM
We celebrated like loons when we pulled back from behind against Glenavon away as well last season. What's your point?

When your 2 nil behind, no possibility of getting back into the game and then somehow do, you celebrate. Maybe that's lost with you I don't know. But it is hardly relevent to my comment.

Also my observation came from teh fact, 2 or 3 years prior to season before last you where struggling then all of a sudden you where at the top.

I am not saying you are over achieving drastically, just that your not quite as good as Drogheda/Cork and Previously Shelbourne.

Why go on the defensive all the time? Just give your opinion and be done with it. I'm not trying to argue, just making an observation, if you disagree fair enough, but it's my opinion.

You make valid points, but don't forget Drogheda have achieved nothing of merit league wise, like us. They were traditionally a bottom 6 team until recent investments. In comparison, we have amassed more points than any other team over the past 2 seasons. As a club, I believe we are similiar in stature with Cork. Shelbourne? Oh previous Shelbourne - like Finn Harps - guaranteed results against them every time.:)

passerrby
22/05/2007, 2:00 PM
have it on good authority he was having serious problems with the langauge barrier

carrickharp
22/05/2007, 2:13 PM
A good few of them live in Donegal, Stephen Kenny did as well when he was manager.

lofty9
22/05/2007, 2:18 PM
A good few of them live in Donegal, Stephen Kenny did as well when he was manager.

They all live no more than 20mins than the Brandywell.

OneRedArmy
22/05/2007, 2:27 PM
I am not saying you are over achieving drastically, just that your not quite as good as Drogheda/Cork and Previously Shelbourne.Its uninformed WUM-esque posts like this that rag my hole. I appreciate your EL interest is recent, but we've as many League titles as Cork and two more than Drogheda.

And a bucket load more cups.

Shels were muck until the 90's, but that particularly house of cards appears to have collapsed.

Nobody has a divine right to be a "big club", we've had quite a few seasons in the doldrums a few years back, but clubs rarely come to the Brandywell expecting 3 points.

Aaron
22/05/2007, 2:35 PM
A good few of them live in Donegal, Stephen Kenny did as well when he was manager.


Stephen kenny lived in Fahan, which is literally 10 mins away from Derry

Steve Bruce
22/05/2007, 2:38 PM
Its uninformed WUM-esque posts like this that rag my hole. I appreciate your EL interest is recent, but we've as many League titles as Cork and two more than Drogheda.

And a bucket load more cups.

Shels were muck until the 90's, but that particularly house of cards appears to have collapsed.

Nobody has a divine right to be a "big club", we've had quite a few seasons in the doldrums a few years back, but clubs rarely come to the Brandywell expecting 3 points.

Well I'm not intendint to Wind anyone up. Just giving my opinion and unfortunately for many it isn't what they like hearing.

But then IMO there is no point in having message boards like Foot.ie and Irishleagueforums.net if you cannot give your opinion.

My point about other teams being that bit better was about about teams in the last few seasons who have just nipped ahead of you over the finish line. This season I think Drogs are too strong and will win the league.

Last season Shelbourne just pipped you and the season before Cork City(if I remember correctly) just got there.

Before that(correctly if I am wrong) you where flirting with relegation and where at best mid table and had to play a few friendlies etc because you where on the brink of extinction??

michaelguineys
22/05/2007, 3:05 PM
I heard a couple of weeks ago that he wanted out of Derry and some of the players as well. They actually even prefer to live across the border in Letterkenny. :eek:
Well i know for a fact that greg o halloran is living in Letterkenny

OneRedArmy
22/05/2007, 3:09 PM
I heard a couple of weeks ago that he wanted out of Derry and some of the players as well. They actually even prefer to live across the border in Letterkenny. :eek:Geography lesson.

The border is no more than 3 miles, in three directions, from Derry City Centre.

Half of Derry lives in Donegal (however oxymoronic that may seem).

Letterkenny is 20-30mins away.

dcfcsteve
22/05/2007, 3:30 PM
Do people think Derry had their day in the sun ?

My God - you're right RT ! We had our shot and blew it ! We're doomed, do you hear, DOOMEDDD !!!!!!

Meanwhile - back on planet earth, DCFC will continue to do what all other football clubs in history have done. That is - have form that alternates over time. And doubtless we'll go back to/continue that thing that only a few clubs in history do - win things more than oncve in a blue moon. Unlike Sligo...


Start by trying to get the players to live in or at least nearer to the city would be a start.

Your posts have often tended to sugest you are clueless about a lot of things you speak about, but I didn't realsie you'd gone the whole hog and got the badge and T-Shirt to confirm it and tell the whole world......!

Still - you do make me smile..... :D

lofty9
22/05/2007, 3:34 PM
Steve, I think that he is now aware of the fact that players live close by, given previous responses. I don't think there is any need for the aloof patrionising tone you have taken.

dortie
22/05/2007, 3:41 PM
I'd be happy with Peter Hutton assisted by Tony Doc.

We have to get Gorman out first though.......until then its an unfinished job.


Wouldnt say no to Tony doc, fat Pat either.

As for Gorman, he failed miserably as a first division coach, great appointment he was.

OneRedArmy
22/05/2007, 3:42 PM
I don't blame them !Derry's surburbs and hinterland stretch well over the border.

I'll draw you a parallel, its like me criticising the Sligo manager for living in Strandhill or Rosses Point.

Ridiculous I think we'll both agree.

Cici900
22/05/2007, 3:51 PM
Great news if hes gone because he was half yer problem with his style of play.

Saint MacDara
22/05/2007, 3:56 PM
Alan Mathews for Derry
Pat Fenlon for Glentoran

sligoman
22/05/2007, 3:57 PM
Alan Mathews for Derry
Pat Fenlon for GlentoranSean Connor for Longford so?:eek:

Jerry The Saint
22/05/2007, 4:12 PM
Sean Connor for Longford so?:eek:

Sean Connor for Wexford
Mick Wallace for Setanta
Pat Dolan for Linfield
David Jeffrey for Derry?

Dodge
22/05/2007, 4:13 PM
Still at least Fenlon left Derry with 2 sub keepers and Peter Hynes...

ciaraa
22/05/2007, 4:19 PM
Shels were muck until the 90's, but that particularly house of cards appears to have collapsed.



Well, I wouldnt exactly call 6 league titles and 3 senior cups pre 1990's 'muck' in fairness...

fbtn
22/05/2007, 4:20 PM
I'll be really surprised if Felix isn't offered the job.

Serious question: If a Derryman lives in Donegal - is a greyhound or a sheep lover? ;)

OneRedArmy
22/05/2007, 4:23 PM
Serious question: If a Derryman lives in Donegal - is a greyhound or a sheep lover? ;)Wolf in sheeps clothing....

BohsPartisan
22/05/2007, 4:44 PM
YAAAWWWWNNNNN ah Steve how are things ? Hey i heard something today about that Kenny could be on his way back to Derry although no word on Short yet !? Care to Comment ?

Any chance we could get away from all the silly bickering and back onto the topic of how Nutsy made a huge mistake not taking the Bohs job? ;)

BohsPartisan
22/05/2007, 4:47 PM
Ah this must be some little sly dig at me for showing you up on your own forum last night sorry about that ;):D.

Sorry, what? Must have missed that.
What time was that as I can't get on to thebohs.com here at work, the web marshall blocks it.
What thread was that on?

BohsPartisan
22/05/2007, 4:50 PM
Ahem keep it on topic matey !

Genuinely confused. :confused:

LukeO
22/05/2007, 7:14 PM
Ah this must be some little sly dig at me for showing you up on your own forum last night sorry about that ;):D.

By the way not bickering with anybody to be fair read the posts man !

By having the arrogance to assume you know more about what Darren Mansaram or any other player is on than one of our club board directors and to continue arguing the point with him, the only person you showed up was yourself...

LukeO
22/05/2007, 7:54 PM
I loved it how your so called director knew straight off what wage the palyer in question was on pure bluff. I let is slide Luke O NO. I don't think you lads really want to admit to yourselfs as much as to anybody else how much you are really spending on the team of yours :rolleyes:

By the way i have a funny feeling Bohs may be after PF !

So-called director? It's well-known on our forum who BARD is and he sure as hell knows a lot more about player contracts at Bohs than some upstart from Sligo.

And of course he'd know what Darren Mansaram is on and while he mightn't know the exact figure off the top of his head, he'd know for sure that it's considerably less than the figure you mentioned.

As for our budget? It's public knowledge that our Hon. Sec. mentioned at the Seán Connor press conference at the start of the season that we were increasing the budget by 50%, so it doesn't take Einstein to figure out what our approximate budget is for this season.

As for Nutsy... well, you may or may not remember that I wasn't 100% convinced that Connor was the right man for the job at the time of him being appointment and that my preferred option was Pat Fenlon. I remain unconvinced, but the chances of him being ousted in favour of Pat Fenlon in the near future are slim to say the least.

Dazzy
22/05/2007, 8:12 PM
I'll be really surprised if Felix isn't offered the job.

Serious question: If a Derryman lives in Donegal - is a greyhound or a sheep lover? ;)

woof...i mean baaa...woof

Vitruvian Man
22/05/2007, 9:24 PM
I see Irelands most fickle fans have managed to drive another manager away.

Whats that now, six in six years.

For shame - if it was anybody else they (we) would be getting crucified here.

EireBadBoy
22/05/2007, 9:27 PM
I see Irelands most fickle fans have managed to drive another manager away.

Whats that now, six in six years.

For shame - if it was anybody else they (we) would be getting crucified here.

I think you'll find he left for personal reasons, Mr.Knownothing or is it Sir Judgealot?
I'm sure Pat Fenlon has put up with a lot more than cyber critics and a bad run of results in his career.

Aaron
22/05/2007, 9:42 PM
I see Irelands most fickle fans have managed to drive another manager away.

Whats that now, six in six years.

For shame - if it was anybody else they (we) would be getting crucified here.

Thats rich coming from a Bohs fan

BohsPartisan
22/05/2007, 9:46 PM
Thats rich coming from a Bohs fan
Hardly. Farrelly got more time than Fenlon. Obviously forced out by your boo boys :D

BohsFans
22/05/2007, 9:47 PM
Thats rich coming from a Bohs fan

I certainly don't agree with the rich bit! :rolleyes:


Connor OUT:p


;)

OneRedArmy
22/05/2007, 10:01 PM
I see Irelands most fickle fans have managed to drive another manager away.

Whats that now, six in six years.

For shame - if it was anybody else they (we) would be getting crucified here.Are you admitting defeat in the fans fickleness stakes? :eek:

Thats about the only thing you've won recently!

Anyway, you'll have your chance to have a pop at the poisoned dwarf soon enough if rumours are anything to go by.....:p

LukeO
22/05/2007, 10:07 PM
Hardly. Farrelly got more time than Fenlon. Obviously forced out by your boo boys :D

No, the Notorious Boo Boys were chanting "We want Nutsy out" up in the Brandywell last month, so we're taking credit for this one. :D

cestlavie
22/05/2007, 10:11 PM
I heard that Fenlon has genuine personal reasons for leaving, while things havent gone according to plan.
I also heard that Gorman is well respected on the training ground and they have been working non stop to try and put things rite. :ball:

I read a few comments from the Harps fans, they make me laugh!

Gorman had a better record at Harps than Hegarty, funny:) and they ingratiate themselves in abit of turmoil at Derry, sad :p

lofty9
22/05/2007, 10:26 PM
Hardly. Farrelly got more time than Fenlon. Obviously forced out by your boo boys :D

You should have asked for our help, could've got rid Farrelly for you in a few weeks. :D Leave it to the experts next time.

BohsPartisan
22/05/2007, 10:38 PM
No, the Notorious Boo Boys were chanting "We want Nutsy out" up in the Brandywell last month, so we're taking credit for this one.

:o Should have remembered that. I've tried to block that night from my memory. Mainly because of the sight of you in a thong! :eek: ;)

LukeO
22/05/2007, 11:29 PM
I've no idea what you're talking about... :o :D

Only1Rovers
22/05/2007, 11:58 PM
disappointed we appointed another manager before he became free:p

Dont think we would have had the dollars for Fenlon. Would have been nice though, he would have done something about the pitch.

daniel
23/05/2007, 8:51 AM
felix the cat won't get the Derry job!!

finnpark
23/05/2007, 9:37 AM
he is still a brilliant manager,just made the wrong choice of club. disappointed we appointed another manager before he became free:p

Please explain why you think this?

His tactical awareness, his signings, his team selections and his attitude leave a lot to be desired imo. He had one lucky european run with Shels against a torn apart Split and a 0-0 draw to a La Coruna side in turmoil. He bought all the best players in the league and turned them into useless feckers.

finnpark
23/05/2007, 9:41 AM
Perhaps Derry will take Paul Hegarty from us? We will pay them compo to do so:D

I cannot believe people are suggesting Peter Hutton and even Gorman on here. What is Hutton's past experience as a manager? As far I heard the players are fighting among each other; would you really put an existing player in charge?

Dassa
23/05/2007, 9:51 AM
I know very little about Derry City, who are the major contenders to take the job?

Dodge
23/05/2007, 10:12 AM
David Jeffries is favourite apparently

Risteard
23/05/2007, 10:14 AM
Fenlon and Linfield would be good for eachother.
Mightn't need to move there either.

DvB
23/05/2007, 10:19 AM
David Jeffries is favourite apparently

Isnt Jeffries only part time at Linfield though? I always thought he worked as a social worker (or something similar) based in Belfast as his full time occupation and the part time set up suited him!? Would he be willing to give that up to manage Derry!?

Koh

BohsPartisan
23/05/2007, 10:19 AM
Yeah that was one of the reasons he wasn't interested in the Bohs job.

Flexy
23/05/2007, 10:57 AM
David Jeffries is favourite apparently
As a Derry fan id welcome David Jeffries, but think the club need to look at someone outside the country, bring new faces in, and get rid of the trouble makers in the club, no 1 player is ever bigger then DCFC, so ship them out.

OneRedArmy
23/05/2007, 11:00 AM
David Jeffries is favourite apparently
Source?