Paddy Kenny

[RiffRaff]

Read in the Sun yesterday that he's thinking of asking for a transfer so he can stay in the Premiership and push Given for his place in the Ireland team. having read several times over the years how much he's wanted to play for Ireland, the only conclusions are that (1) his break from international football is entirely to do with Stan and (2) he doesnt think Stan will be around much longer.

[John83]

Or, he was having a tough time, with among other things his wife cheating on him with a team mate. He chose to take some time out from international football for a while. He's thinking about coming back.

But no, you're right. It's all about Staunton.

[eirebhoy]

He's not rated by many on here anyway.

[RiffRaff]

The report said Aston Villa, Wigan and Everton are interested

[tetsujin1979]

The report said Aston Villa, Wigan and Everton are interested
He wouldn't be a first team player at any of those, Villa have Sorensen, Everton are only after signing Howard, and Wigan have England international Chris Kirkland. At best he'd be a back up to Howard (after releasing Wright) or Kirkland. Kiraly is a decent back up to Sorensen

[brine3]

kirkland ain't all that

[Kivlehan]

Sunderland is linked with him in rumors and he is listed on their sites rumor tracker page. Of course any Irish player who is unsettled or looked to move on is bound to be linked to Sunderland at this point. But their goalkeeper isn't that strong so it is a logical link.

http://www.safc.com/news/?page_id=12423

[SeaniesRedArmy]

kiraly isnt great back up

[The Legend]

Or, he was having a tough time, with among other things his wife cheating on him with a team mate. He chose to take some time out from international football for a while. He's thinking about coming back.

But no, you're right. It's all about Staunton.

Do we know which of his team mates did that? sorry if im out of the loop on that one!

[Torn-Ado]

Do we know which of his team mates did that? sorry if im out of the loop on that one!

I heard it was the best man at hs wedding and the groomsman. Didn't hear anything about team mate. That could be interesting. Please tell someone.......

[danonion]

Kiraly is a free agent right now I think and Kenny is probably better than him. I rate Kenny and I think him formerly being fat (he really isn't anymore) is why people have such grudges against him. Go ahead and google some high profile errors, but Shay let in 5 goals from Birmingham City this season and no one is denying he is a phenom of a keeper.

[Lionel Ritchie]

kirkland ain't all that

Well Gordon Strachan for example rates him as the best goalkeeper he's ever worked with ...I would think Paddy would struggle to dislodge Kirkland and would be relying on him picking up an injury.

[Ordinary Fan]

Kirkland picking up an injury?

Never!

[Lionel Ritchie]

:D

touche.

should maybe have said anOTHER injury.

[youngirish]

Kenny is deluded if he thinks he's going to be challenging Given for his place in the Ireland team. Next year he's more likely to be challenging Logan, Randolph, Supple and Henderson just for a place in the squad (Given and Doyle will be first and second choice).

[Dodge]

Kenny is easily good enough for the Premiership and BY FAR the second best keeper Ireland currently have. He took far too much flak for the performace in Cyprus IMO. Doyle et al have yet to prove themselves and the likes of Colgan are never going to be as good

He's been consistently good all season. He won't challenge Given but if he came out and said he's looking to get back on the bench for Ireland people would accuse him of lacking ambition.

BTW it was his best mate (not a footballer) who shagged his missus so amybe geting away from Sheffield would help him personally too.

Good luck to him

[Ash]

BTW it was his best mate (not a footballer) who shagged his missus so amybe
geting away from Sheffield would help him personally too.


She had affairs with 2 of his mates I think. Not sure if the other lad
was footy related.

[youngirish]

Kenny is easily good enough for the Premiership and BY FAR the second best keeper Ireland currently have. Not true. Have you watched him play for Ireland? He's been dodgy in a number of games for Sheffield United also.

[shakermaker1982]

I think he's blown his chance after his pull outs. With Doyle coming through the ranks and establishing himself at Brum plus Randolph getting first team football (who had a very good game according to my boss who went up to Anfield) we seem to be doing ok for goalkeepers.

[drummerboy]

We have a crop of fine young goalkeepers coming through the ranks, Doyle (Birmingham), Randolf (Charlton), Logan (Leicester), Supple (Ipswitch) and Henderson (Preston). Add in Joe Murphy (S****horpe) and David Forde (Cardiff) and we are really well served, so much so that we need not worry whether Kenny wants to play for Ireland or not. Besides I'd say Shay Given will be around for at least another 5 years.

[livehead1]

Kenny is deluded if he thinks he's going to be challenging Given for his place in the Ireland team. Next year he's more likely to be challenging Logan, Randolph, Supple and Henderson just for a place in the squad (Given and Doyle will be first and second choice).

nobody has mentioned this yet but given is 31 now and for the first time in a number of years he has missed sizeable chunks of the season...this could possibly be simply bad luck but may also be a sign of his advancing years. he has played a hell of a lot of football both domestically and internationally the last 7 years.

[Ordinary Fan]

Given is as good a as goal head-start for Ireland, as could be seen when he was not around. Doyle Logan, Randolph, Supple and Henderson are all unproven, with only Supple playing any number of games in two seasons.

I was shocked how badly Kenny performed in Cyprus but no one else played any better. Stan loves Henderson, bith he was poor in both his competitive starts.

IMO Kenny should be brough back in for the Denmark game and the remainder of the qualifiers as he is the only keeper with experience of playing at that kind of level.

But if not whoever is going to be Given's backup, he must get half a game against the Danes with the regular center-half pairing on the field.

[The-Beer-Baron]

I think this insight should end the forum
Paddy Kenny= MUCK
no to his comeback
he shouldnt never have been played

[youngirish]

I think this insight should end the forum
Paddy Kenny= MUCK
no to his comeback
he shouldnt never have been played
I agree 100%. Let him be banished from the Ireland team forever like the other deadwood such as Connolly and Doherty.

[Kingdom]

I can think of three world class saves Kenny made against Cyprus. He made a direct mistake for 1 goal. Thats it. Henderson ahs shown fcuk all reason to be ahead of Kenny.

[livehead1]

cant believe all this negativity about him, hes a good shot stopper and well deserves his place

[KopKiller]

He is a terrible keeper, for every half decent save he makes he lets in a couple of soft goals, isnt big enough to dominate his goal and not fast enough off his line.

He got his chance and was absolute sh1t, he inspired nothing but nervousness in the defenders in front of him.

We have better options than him in Doyle, Henderson and judging him on his peformance against liverpool, Randolph.

But they can all wait for another 5 years, Given is still the best goal keeper in the world at present.

[danonion]

Henderson = MUCK

Doyle = ?????

Kenny has done well all season in the premier league and those of you who say he is muck are talking out of your arses. The central defenders and (lack of) central midfielders should take the blame for Cyprus

[youngirish]

Henderson = MUCK

Doyle = ?????

Kenny has done well all season in the premier league and those of you who say he is muck are talking out of your arses. The central defenders and (lack of) central midfielders should take the blame for Cyprus
Yes those self same same central defenders that Given has had to play behind for the majority of the last few years. I love people sticking up fro Kenny who coveniently forget to mention his penultimate appearance for us, the Dutch game. All the defence's fault there aswell was it?

[eirebhoy]

Given wouldn't have been able to do a lot with O'Shea and O'Brien in front of him. They've the combined football brain of Phil Babb. The central midfield against Cyprus was the worst ever fielded by an Irish senior team too, that I can remember. Kenny just happened to be unlucky with the 2 games he played in. There's no way we'd have got anything out of the game with Given in goal. He's not a miracle worker.

[Torn-Ado]

Given wouldn't have been able to do a lot with O'Shea and O'Brien in front of him. They've the combined football brain of Phil Babb. The central midfield against Cyprus was the worst ever fielded by an Irish senior team too, that I can remember. Kenny just happened to be unlucky with the 2 games he played in. There's no way we'd have got anything out of the game with Given in goal. He's not a miracle worker.

We did the year before though and Cyprus were just as dominant then.

Anyways, Given inspires confidence throughout the defence and team. They mightn't have been so jittery with Shay in goals.

[eirebhoy]

We did the year before though and Cyprus were just as dominant then.
Can't agree with that at all. Cyprus could easily have beaten us by a record score last year. They just walked through the midfield at will.

I'm not too bothered if Kenny gets a call up or not but I don't want him to be remembered the way he is atm.

[Jerry The Saint]

Yes those self same same central defenders that Given has had to play behind for the majority of the last few years. I love people sticking up fro Kenny who coveniently forget to mention his penultimate appearance for us, the Dutch game. All the defence's fault there aswell was it?

Largely yes, the Dutch could have got 10 that day. Kenny is being unfairly scapegoated, IMO.

[RogerMilla]

And what happens if given gets injured ?? Paddy Kenny is our second best keeper as regards experience and ability. Anyone who is ruling him out is kidding themselves , why would we start turning experienced people away ?
Hope he gets a move to the premiership and does well.

[neville neville]

stan wont pick him again anyway. went home after the cyprus game claiming to be injured for the czech game yet he was fine on the saturday playing for the blades. there's not much i agree with stan about but if he's not comitted than good luck to him, give doyle or murphy a chance

[DmanDmythDledge]

stan wont pick him again anyway. went home after the cyprus game claiming to be injured for the czech game yet he was fine on the saturday playing for the blades.
And they were on the same day.:rolleyes:

[Qwerty]

The criticism of Kenny is over the top, you can't blame him for the Cyprus debacle. Given would have made a difference but you can't compare a keeper only winning his 2nd cap with a veteran and vocal keeper like Given. I see our best keepers as Given, Kenny and Doyle.

[Paddy Garcia]

. I see our best keepers as Given, Kenny and Doyle.

Correct. And Kenny may well have saved the shot against the Czechs. Alo the mess against San Marino, which so easily could have been a draw.

[Stuttgart88]

Kenny at fault for 1 goal in Cyprus, makes 2 superb saves in same game that I can recall.

Henderson should have saved Koller's equaliser against Czechs and directly responsible for the single most embarassing goal ever conceded by Ireland, period.

So Henderson is better than Kenny? Interesting logic!

Personally I think neither is the standard we require, at the moment anyway. The only advantage Henderson has over Kenny is youth and hence might get there in time. He has talent but I think he is prone to poor decision making. Some keepers learn, others are just innately rash at times. Also, in both keepers' cases, it can be quite easy to look good at weak teams. It's far more difficult to look good at a better team and to command the respect of your defenders and other outfield players.

In fairness to Henderson, I thought he exuded confidence against the Czechs. I hope he fares well at a promotion chasing Preston next season, it could be the making of him. I actually have no fears about our goalkeeping cover and future, the only doubts I have are in our management's ability to recognise the real pecking order.

[kev mcq]

He wouldn't be a first team player at any of those, Villa have Sorensen, Everton are only after signing Howard, and Wigan have England international Chris Kirkland. At best he'd be a back up to Howard (after releasing Wright) or Kirkland. Kiraly is a decent back up to Sorensen

Villa only had Kiraly on loan, Stuart Taylor is no. 2 keeper. Kiraly is **** anyway.

[tetsujin1979]

either way, kenny would not be first choice at Villa, Everton or Wigan. It's debatable if moving from first choice at the Blades to backup at any of these clubs is good for him. Or the Irish setup.

[Uncle_Joe]

Banned for 9 months due to failing a drug test, testing positive for ephedrine which he was taking for chest pains. The FA Panel accept that it wasnt performance enhancing but it looks like they want to make an example of the guy.

Its a shame for the guy who is a decent keeper and except for the Cyprus debacle, where he was a bit of a scapegoat, he could and probably would be Shays backup.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/8242926.stm

[weldoninhio]

Banned for 9 months due to failing a drug test, testing positive for ephedrine which he was taking for chest pains. The FA Panel accept that it wasnt performance enhancing but it looks like they want to make an example of the guy.

Its a shame for the guy who is a decent keeper and except for the Cyprus debacle, where he was a bit of a scapegoat, he could and probably would be Shays backup.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/8242926.stm

How often do we hear of players/athletes who are found guilty of taking banned substances through over the counter drugs, i think Romario even said there was a banned substance in his system from hair growth drugs he was taking.

These people have huge medical teams looking after them, if they need something for a cold or chest complaint they should go to them. Anyone who takes over the counter drugs without consulting with the medical team at their clubs and are subsequently found with banned substances in their system deserve to be banned.

[Razors left peg]

How often do we hear of players/athletes who are found guilty of taking banned substances through over the counter drugs, i think Romario even said there was a banned substance in his system from hair growth drugs he was taking.

These people have huge medical teams looking after them, if they need something for a cold or chest complaint they should go to them. Anyone who takes over the counter drugs without consulting with the medical team at their clubs and are subsequently found with banned substances in their system deserve to be banned.

toally agree. theses guys should see that it has happened to enough athletes already.All clubs have their own doctor so all he had to do if pick up the phone to ask what he was allowed to use.

[SkStu]

appeal dismissed. In light of Cannavaro's "excuse" being accepted and the story being swept under the carpet, this would seem pretty harsh...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/8316916.stm

Sheffield United goalkeeper Paddy Kenny's appeal against a nine-month ban for failing a drugs test has been dismissed by the Football Association.

The 31-year-old challenged the severity of the suspension, but has failed to have it reduced.

An FA statement said: "The decision to impose a nine-month suspension was an appropriate measure."

Kenny tested positive for the banned substance ephedrine after last season's Championship play-off tie with Preston.

The suspension dates back to 22 July, meaning that Kenny can return to action in April 2010.

In addition to the ban, the Republic of Ireland international will the subject of target testing for a period of two years.

Kenny has made nearly 300 appearances for the Blades since moving to Bramall Lane from Bury in 2002.

[John83]

Cannavaro's case was incomplete paperwork. It's not comparable.

[SkStu]

Cannavaro's case was incomplete paperwork..

how convenient.

[Scram]

Unfortunately for Paddy Kenny, he is not an English international. The refusal to consider his appeal is preposterous.

[John83]

how convenient.
The partially complete paperwork (failed to respond to a request for additional paperwork) and news articles from the time indicate that the sting happened. If you want to speculate that they were smart enough to release a false story to the press and start disingenuously filling out paperwork to cover for having given him steroids, explain why they then ****ed up the subsequent paperwork.

Kenny, on the other hand, failed the test and then came up with the tired old story of an inhaler. The cases aren't comparable just because you want to feel outrage that the more famous player got preferential treatment.

[shakermaker1982]

Kenny, on the other hand, failed the test and then came up with the tired old story of an inhaler. The cases aren't comparable just because you want to feel outrage that the more famous player got preferential treatment.

Would it be a tired old story if the inhaler was the cause of him failing the drugs test?

If your found guilty of something but your resulting explanation proves your not a cheat then your going to use it.