Setanta Cup Tonight

[Peadar]

I would say about 3500 at the Brandywell. Give or take a few 100.

We had about the same.
20 odd Pats.

[Peadar]

all QWALITY

Heard that line before.
You're only setting yourself up for a big fall and I'll be there to point and laugh, when it does happen.

[wws]

hehe

no ones signing

but in the pats related hysteria i thought id wind u up a bit more! ;)

[Dodge]

Have to laugh at carkies saying others are setting themselves up for a fall. Wheres the world domination plan gone lads? Reading no doubt, along with any other talent you had...

Cork are in a sad state. Its embarressing for the league to have such a poor team representing Ireland's biggest town in Europe this year. Just thank god its the inter toto and won't affect our co-efficient. Gamble looked lost against proper midfielders in Kirby and Fahey and without Bennett to cover him Murray was shown up for the slow fat waster he is. Good luck to O'Donovan getting a move to england with those perforrmances. Although if Robbie Doyle can get a deal with Macclesfield, who knows. John Caulfield and Pat Morley must be turning in their graves looking at Dennis Behan up front. And out 50 fans made a mockery of yours. Then again if Pats were destroyed at home by a team that flirted with relegation last year I'd be quiet too

[Red&White]

According to some on your forum, Derry's tactic were not exactly adventurous, playing only one up front. Do you think Pat will employ same tactics next week?

What lofty9 said:
"We only had one fit forward before the game and McHugh got injured after 25minutes, leaving us with none."

It was just unfortunate that there was noone else there really. There is absolutely no way Beckett is an out and out striker that's for sure. We really missed Farren last night. Fenlon's played two upfront in all his games previous to last night and same at Shels so barring more injuries expect the same at Linfield.


A bit strange Drogheda playing for a draw
Not in the slightest.

[Risteard]

Have to laugh at carkies saying others are setting themselves up for a fall. Wheres the world domination plan gone lads? Reading no doubt, along with any other talent you had...

Cork are in a sad state. Its embarressing for the league to have such a poor team representing Ireland's biggest town in Europe this year. Just thank god its the inter toto and won't affect our co-efficient. Gamble looked lost against proper midfielders in Kirby and Fahey and without Bennett to cover him Murray was shown up for the slow fat waster he is. Good luck to O'Donovan getting a move to england with those perforrmances. Although if Robbie Doyle can get a deal with Macclesfield, who knows. John Caulfield and Pat Morley must be turning in their graves looking at Dennis Behan up front. And out 50 fans made a mockery of yours. Then again if Pats were destroyed at home by a team that flirted with relegation last year I'd be quiet too
:eek:
Jeez, hope you've a tissue or a stocking handy.
Good times at Inchicore, huh?
Enjoy it.

[superblues]

Or maybe Roy could start putting in the effort the Blues did last friday instead of mouthing on about it being our cup final and not taking into concideration that we might just have been the better team on the night, or that our managers motivational skills are better than rico's. If he's gonna make it then every game should be a cup final for him.

[Peadar]

They get a couple of breaks from defensive mistakes and cream themselves. Peaking in the first week of the season would be worrying for levelheaded fans of most clubs. Ah well, leave them off, they're just not familiar with how things work at the top.

[wws]

$helou$?????

[Risteard]

:D
Now that makes no sense.

[wws]

They get a couple of breaks from defensive mistakes and cream themselves. Peaking in the first week of the season would be worrying for levelheaded fans of most clubs. Ah well, leave them off, they're just not familiar with how things work at the top.




Gary O’Neill scored a brace of goals to embellish a thoroughly efficient performance by St Patrick’s Athletic at Turner’s Cross to go top of Group Two of the Setanta Sports Cup.

St. Pat’s were as secure as a bank vault in defence under sustained pressure and broke out so quickly and finished so impressively as to make Cork’s attempts at goal seem clumsy by comparison.

Cork played some attractive football but with little end product. They were repeatedly frustrated by a St. Pat’s defence which had Stephen Brennan sweeping while Darragh Maguire concentrated on effecting a man-marking job on Cork’s strikers, Denis Behan and Roy O’Donovan.

The result of their tactical line-up meant that Pats had Anthony Murphy often working a solitary shift wide on the right but Cork never exploited that and the supply from the flanks to the strikers was fragmented and too often inaccurate.

Yet St. Pat’s opening goal in the 32nd minute came as a surprise for they had been almost exclusively employed in countering Cork in the preceding minutes. They did so effectively that Cork could not exploit the pace of Roy O’Donovan and goalkeeper Barry Ryan was never extended.

So the signs were already ominous for Cork once St. Pat’s jumped in front. The goal came when Sean Kelly did well to out-jump Joseph Ndo but as the ball fell and Ndo challenged Joe Gamble, Gary O’Neill stepped in to beat goalkeeper Michael Devine which a half-volley from 25 yards.

The goalkeeper was more obviously at fault for the second after 50 minutes. Kelly mis-timed an attempted clearance and O’Neill ran clear before cutting the ball across the edge of the penalty area where Alan Kirby was unmarked as he chipped the ball over Devine’s head again from 25 yards range.

Cork were briefly back in the game when an attempted header from Maguire to his goalkeeper allowed substitute John O’Flynn in to turn the ball into the net in the 85th minute, but as Cork gambled so they were caught again on the rebound.

Ndo dribbled through the heart of the defence and penetrated into the penalty area before he was tripped by Joe Gamble. A red card was shown to Gamble and O’Neill stepped up to dispatch the penalty with 90 minutes showing on the clock.



hehehehhe

[forza]

We had about the same.
20 odd Pats.

There was at least 34 pats some were in the main stand. Didnt fancy the view or lack of down our end :)

[dcfcsteve]

Why was the redeveloped Shed closed last nioght at TC - is it not finished/approved yet ?

[Dodge]

They get a couple of breaks from defensive mistakes and cream themselves. Peaking in the first week of the season would be worrying for levelheaded fans of most clubs. Ah well, leave them off, they're just not familiar with how things work at the top.
How many titles have you won? We've won more before your little franchise came into existence and more since too.

Personally speaking I never said Pats were anything special as a team (going forward I think we are). I just pointed out how rubbish Cork are. if you want to accept that state of affairs, fine.

I'd also point out that this Pats team is totally new. From the team tht started last season only 3/4 remain in their positions since them. We've played the same amount of games as Cork have, so what makes you think we've peaked?

[wws]

Why was the redeveloped Shed closed last nioght at TC - is it not finished/approved yet ?


unfinished. its a building site at the back.

[Peadar]

You wont improve, simple as that. Kirby doesn't have a season in him and he'll be suspended for a large part of it anyway. Ndo will fool some of you with his aimless runs but he's as bad as McCourt for being a waster in too many games. Gary O'Neill is always a threat but he'll break under the pressure, when the expectation of the fans gets to him. You're acting like Sligo or someone, the way you're losing the run of yourselves, after a couple of wins.

By the way, watch the video from last night and admit to yourself that you were outplayed for long spells and created very little of note.

[wws]

You wont improve, simple as that. Kirby doesn't have a season in him and he'll be suspended for a large part of it anyway. Ndo will fool some of you with his aimless runs but he's as bad as McCourt for being a waster in too many games. Gary O'Neill is always a threat but he'll break under the pressure, when the expectation of the fans gets to him. You're acting like Sligo or someone, the way you're losing the run of yourselves, after a couple of wins.

By the way, watch the video from last night and admit to yourself that you were outplayed for long spells and created very little of note.


yup nothing of note :rolleyes:


with Paisley and Mulcahey still to play for starting places I think we have room for improvement, and will. I know a team that will create chances - and Cork and Drogs arent that team. Pats look more likely. Its a pig of an league this season with zero quality around the clubs in terms of football ability.

[Dodge]

We created 4/5 chances and scored 3. i'll take that.

You created less and scored 1. We played the perfect game away form home. We were never once put under a period of sustained pressure and thoroughly deserved to win. Read all the match reports, only the most blinkered Cork fan would deny the best team won.

[forza]

By the way, watch the video from last night and admit to yourself that you were outplayed for long spells and created very little of note.

We created 3 goals and could have had another couple!!

Spells dont win games goals do. :rolleyes:

[Peadar]

I know it's a long bus trip but how much could you possibly have drunk?

Watch the video lads.
Actually don't, I'm enjoying your making fools of yourselves, acting like teenage boys with a stolen copy of Readers Wives.
Keep it up lads. It's been so long since you won a title that you forgot how it's done...

[razor]

Top class goal by Kirby. Ndo should have shot after that fabulous lay off by O'Neill. 3 fantastic signings by Pats. Anyone else taking advantage of the early odds on Pats so far? I'd still expect decent odds on them beating Waterford.Pats were the better side, no doubt. Ndo was class, sure we all knew that. Kirby must be hangin around with Noel Mooney, definitely has more hair than the last time I saw him. :D
We could have easily taken an undeserved draw from last night and Pats looked nervy after Joffy scored. We didn't have enough in midfield really but once our 2 stars are given the OK then we should improve.

Its over 6 years since we conceded that many to Pats in defeat at the Cross, we sacked our manager then.
Its been over 3 years since we conceded 3 at home before.

[Soko]

I can't ever remember such an over reaction from 1 football match. Glorified pre-season game, thats all it really was. Obviously we're dissapointed to lose and have lots of work to do but will we just hand Pats every trophy available right now? Christ almighty, you got 2 great strikes and a breakaway goal at the end. You looked solid all round but didn't look like a team that will trailblaze a path to the league unbeaten.

[paudie]

Apart from our appalling finishing and crossing I was pleased with the way City played last night. After reports from Waterford of a poor display it was good to see the team playing with urgency and confidence. Kearney and Ryan impressed me.

Pats deserved to win for the quality of the first 2 goals and for being solid enough at the back but City missed some chances all through the game.

A game that proved Gilesy's old adage that goals change games.

[TonyD]

I can't ever remember such an over reaction from 1 football match. Glorified pre-season game, thats all it really was. Obviously we're dissapointed to lose and have lots of work to do but will we just hand Pats every trophy available right now? Christ almighty, you got 2 great strikes and a breakaway goal at the end. You looked solid all round but didn't look like a team that will trailblaze a path to the league unbeaten.

Where are the Pats fans who are claiming that ? We played well last night, scored two super goals, played some lovely football and deserved to win. Anyone going to argue with that ? As for the rest, we have a much improved squad this year, and to my mind are genuine contenders. That's all. The only over reaction I can see is from Cork fans. And if you want to treat what is after all a serious cup competition with substantial prize money as a glorified pre-season game, that's your problem.:p

[charliesboots]

I know it's a long bus trip but how much could you possibly have drunk?

Watch the video lads.
Actually don't, I'm enjoying your making fools of yourselves, acting like teenage boys with a stolen copy of Readers Wives.
Keep it up lads. It's been so long since you won a title that you forgot how it's done...

Peadar, we won you didn't - get the fvck over it!

We've won considerably more title than you and will again in the future.

acting like teenage boys? - find one poster who agrees with you about last night's game and come back to me!! Deluded old fool

[OneRedArmy]

Glorified pre-season game, thats all it really was. Would you be saying that if you hadn't started the tournament so poorly?

ALso find it strange how it can be a pre-season game given the League season has started!

Setanta is as important as any of the cup competitions IMHO, if only for financial reasons.

[BohsPartisan]

Would you be saying that if you hadn't started the tournament so poorly?


I know, its amazing how this tournament that the Corkies took so seriously last year is suddenly no more important to them than a friendly. Obviously there was big prize money up for grabs in their preseason game against Waterford! :rolleyes:

[Peadar]

I know, its amazing how this tournament that the Corkies took so seriously last year is suddenly no more important to them than a friendly.


Despite our results last season, I can assure you that we didn't take the competition anymore seriously. It was a point of frustration for some sections of our support. Rico has his own ideas about the competition.

Either way, we can still get out of the group and still get to the final.
Drogs won the thing last year with one half decent performance against Linfield.

[Dodge]

yeah but Drogheda are solid at the back. Cork have Dan Murray.

[Ebmania]

Despite our results last season, I can assure you that we didn't take the competition anymore seriously. It was a point of frustration for some sections of our support. Rico has his own ideas about the competition.

Either way, we can still get out of the group and still get to the final.
Drogs won the thing last year with one half decent performance against Linfield.
Maybe you should take the competition and the money seriously then you might not have to Flog most of your team.

[GavinZac]

We were never once put under a period of sustained pressure
:confused: we had about 3/4 of possession for the entire match. for a supposedly title challenging team this year, you played like longford.


and thoroughly deserved to win. Read all the match reports, only the most blinkered Cork fan would deny the best team won.
you deserved to win, no doubt. we couldnt finish some easy chances, your lot scored some rather fortunate goals. we will improve as the season goes on though, especially if we can get some creativity into the midfield soon.

[Peadar]

Which means that Pats are getting excited about taking advantage of an unsettled defence. You'll come up against plenty teams who can defend this season. Then you'll see how limited you are. Some of you lads are old enough to know better. I'm surprised that you're getting so carried away.
You're sounding like Rovers fans with all the history recitals and we all know what happened to them...

[Dodge]

:confused: we had about 3/4 of possession for the entire match. for a supposedly title challenging team this year, you played like longford.
LOL. Firstly no one is claiming pats are title contenders. Secondly I said sustained pressure. We had more chances than you, and you were at home. We also won 3-1 BTW


your lot scored some rather fortunate goals
nothing fortunate about them at all. Just quality play


Which means that Pats are getting excited about taking advantage of an unsettled defence. You'll come up against plenty teams who can defend this season. Then you'll see how limited you are. Some of you lads are old enough to know better. I'm surprised that you're getting so carried away.
You're sounding like Rovers fans with all the history recitals and we all know what happened to them...

Where has any Pats fans said anything other thanit was outr best performance in years (which it was) and that Cork were ****e. Surely you cna't argue with this. nobody has claimed we'll win anything, we've just said we're better than you

[pete]

:confused: we had about 3/4 of possession for the entire match. for a supposedly title challenging team this year, you played like longford..

Must be why trying to sign the Longford rejects. Soon the team will be half Longford & half Waterford players. :eek:

Oooops... (http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=37&si=546386&issue_id=5568)

[Risteard]

Poor second to Drogs fans in the wum stakes.

[wws]

we've just said we're better than you

and sang it tooo...to underline the point

[Ebmania]

Must be why trying to sign the Longford rejects. Soon the team will be half Longford & half Waterford players. :eek:

Oooops... (http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=37&si=546386&issue_id=5568)
Hey add least we are adding to our squad not letting people go for a little bit of money to pay are crocked former internationls who in the Past 4 years have done nothing.

Oh and maybe you would of played better if you done proper pre - season. Whats that all about.

[Soko]

Oh and maybe you would of played better if you done proper pre - season. Whats that all about.


Which would indicate that for some reason Rico views this as a glorified pre-season. Makes no sense but thats what he does. Did it last year and the year before as well

[charliesboots]

Oooops... (http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=37&si=546386&issue_id=5568)

Two things about that

- we beat you to the league title in '99.
- Cork signing has-been, washed up ex-Ireland international midfielders is obviously not a new fad

[dcfcsteve]

Soon the team will be half Longford & half Waterford players. :eek:

Well a team that was half Waterford players would probably still beat Cork - just like the team that was 100% Waterford players did 4 days ago..... :D :p

[micls]

We were ****e but honestly didnt think Pats were up to too much either.

They deserved the win alright but more because we were completely toothless than anything else imo.

Ndo looked dangerous but I lost count of the amount of stray passes he played. Kirby was good but midfield never really got in control of possession.
No world beaters anyway.
Again thoguht they were full value for the win as we were rubbish

[BohsPartisan]

Which would indicate that for some reason Rico views this as a glorified pre-season.

Well I'm sure your board would be very happy with the prize money so maybe they should have related their feelings to the manager. If he's not taking this competition seriously he's a bigger clown than I thought.

[Jerry The Saint]

Maybe you should take the competition and the money seriously then you might not have to Flog most of your team.

Lads, it's perfectly understandable why Cork deliberately set out to play badly in the Setanta. Steve Coppell has shown that he doesn't care about winning knockout tournaments so he isn't interested in players with cup experience.

[BohsFans]

Oooops... (http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=37&si=546386&issue_id=5568)

* Republic of Ireland international midfielder Liam O'Brien, who was recently released by Tranmere Rovers, last night signed for City City.

* Galway United have been allocated £25,000 by the National League for ground improvements at Terryland Park, while Limerick FC have been granted £10,000 for terracing at Hogan Park.

:D :D

[WeAreRovers]

You're sounding like Rovers fans with all the history recitals and we all know what happened to them...

Yeah, we won more trophies than anyone else. To talk about your history you need to have one. :rolleyes:

Fantastic spat BTW lads, carry on.....

KOH

[BohsPartisan]

Fantastic spat BTW lads, carry on.....

KOH

Yeah for some reason I'm enjoying this one better than the Galway V Limerick37 one

[superblues]

Well a team that was half Waterford players would probably still beat Cork - just like the team that was 100% Waterford players did 4 days ago..... :D :p


I like it dcfcsteve!!!:D

[razor]

Steve Coppell has shown that he doesn't care about winning knockout tournaments so he isn't interested in players with cup experience.It was in fact Liam Brady in attendance last night, our lads didn't exactly shine :D .
A few Pats players may have caught the eye though, be careful.:eek:

[derm]

It was in fact Liam Brady in attendance last night, our lads didn't exactly shine :D .
A few Pats players may have caught the eye though, be careful.:eek:

Liam Brady, Craig Levein (Dundee Utd) and Tony Pulis (Stoke) apparently.

[Danny]

Craig Levine was also there looking at O'Donavan, but was more impressed with kirby and pats in general as was overheard saying "its a pity i didnt see him when he was 19 not 29.."