Darren O’Dea

[Thommo]

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Home leg not on.:mad:

[Razors left peg]

if he keeps putting in performances like yesterday when he gets his chances he will make it impossible for the manager to leave him out

[Scram]

if he keeps putting in performances like yesterday when he gets his chances he will make it impossible for the manager to leave him out

O'Dea is a quality footballer with great attitude and will be in the Ireland team in time.

[Ordinary Fan]

O'Dea should move on if he wants to get first-team football and improve.

[Razors left peg]

O'Dea should move on if he wants to get first-team football and improve.

why not wait to see if he will get first team football under the new manager

[eirebhoy]

O'Deas problem is that he's very, very similar to Caldwell in almost every aspect and I couldn't see those 2 working together. While himself and McManus are both left sided CH's. I think the most suitable partner for him by a mile is Loovens (right sided, willing to follow O'Deas lead, plenty of height and pace) but by playing those 2 together you have Scotland's 2 first choice CH's on the bench. I just can't see it as much as I'd like to.

[celticV3]

He was solid yesterday from what I saw.

[Brendan 82]

O'Deas problem is that he's very, very similar to Caldwell in almost every aspect and I couldn't see those 2 working together. While himself and McManus are both left sided CH's. I think the most suitable partner for him by a mile is Loovens (right sided, willing to follow O'Deas lead, plenty of height and pace) but by playing those 2 together you have Scotland's 2 first choice CH's on the bench. I just can't see it as much as I'd like to.

So do Celtic pick their strongest team for their most important matches or do politics play a part in team selection? Seems weird for a professional club to sacrifice potential victories just to ensure that Scottish CHs are on the pitch. Like I could never imagine Man Utd starting Wes Brown at centre half instead of Vidic just because he is English. It's a little sad if that is the case, especially for O'Dea.

[eirebhoy]

No I just can't see both McManus and Caldwell being dropped. To go from first choice centre half pairing there would be months of different combinations before a manager would drop both of them. We'll see though.

[Diarmo]

Unlikely that he'll drop McManus, but what's on O'Dea's side is that he is a footballing CB, and so far it seems that Mowbray is a fan of players who can well, play football. Although that last sentence sounds rather banal, I hope you get my point. If he can show well while McManus is still injured, he could be undroppable by Christmas. However, if he doesn't get his chance, he'll have to move. I actually really think Italian football would suit O'Dea's style of defending.

[butcher]

havin witnessed darren o'dea grown in stature over the past two years and become a solid defender, i find it beyond believe that he has been overlooked for the irish squad in favour of kilbane/ foley. kilbane is in decline and o'dea is a better defender then foley so why is he been overlooked!

[Razors left peg]

havin witnessed darren o'dea grown in stature over the past two years and become a solid defender, i find it beyond believe that he has been overlooked for the irish squad in favour of kilbane/ foley. kilbane is in decline and o'dea is a better defender then foley so why is he been overlooked!

Coz O Dea is a center defender and not playing regular first team football and Foley is a right back and is playing first team football.... its not really rocket science

[butcher]

he is equally adept at left back....he's a promising talent and plays more regular football then peole think! he should be given a chance ahead of kilbane especially since this is a friendly

[Razors left peg]

he is equally adept at left back....he's a promising talent and plays more regular football then peole think! he should be given a chance ahead of kilbane especially since this is a friendly

He will definately become and Ireland regular and very possibly captain in the future, but hes not playing regularly enough yet.

[back of the net]

he is equally adept at left back....he's a promising talent and plays more regular football then peole think! he should be given a chance ahead of kilbane especially since this is a friendly

no doubting the fellas potential , butcher but until he is playing regular competitive games for his club he should not be in the starting line for the national team

also foley is a right back and o'dea is a left back/central defender, plus foley is going to be a regular right back in a better league , so i dont see why u think o'dea shold be in the squad ahead of him

[geysir]

he is equally adept at left back.

My sources tell me that O'Dea is a born central defender and not equally adept at LB

[Stuttgart88]

I think O'Dea should be in the squad ahead of Eddie Nolan, but no way are KK and Foley there at his expense. Damian Delaney is on standby - a left-back who can play CB - and Alex Bruce is too (RB / CB) suggesting DO'D has work to do to impress Trapp.

I think Geysir is right - O'Dea is a CB first and foremost who has filled in at LB.

[tetsujin1979]

If I had to guess at a reason why O'Dea hasn't been in the squad (any squad) under Trapattoni, it would be the B game VS Forest last November. O'Dea and Bruce were the central defensive partnership, with Bruce captaining the side. Bruce performed well, won the ball in the air, played intelligent passes and worked well with Foley beside him at right full. O'Dea, on the other hand, was wasteful in possession, and on more than one occasion in the second half had Bruce to thank for covering for one of his mistakes.
In the same game Andrews played for the first time in front of Trapattoni, and Folan scored. Those two, along with Bruce, have become mainstays in the squad since that game, whereas O'Dea has been frozen out. With a new manger in place at Celtic, he may get more first team opportunities, instead of wasting his time on the bench for another season under Strachan. If he does, and returns to the form he showed against Milan 2 seasons ago, then he is well worth his place in the squad. Unfortunately, central defence is probably the hardest position in the squad at the moment to break into. With Dunne and O'Shea the first choice pairing, and St Ledger, McShane, and Bruce all ahead of him in the queue he will need to have a fantastic season to earn his first cap between now and the end of the qualifiers.

[Stuttgart88]

Thanks Tets. Did O'Dea not make one squad call-up only to pull out? can't really remember tbh.

[Junior]

O'Dea made the starting 11 today. McManus is still injured and Caldwell was also out so he partnered Loovens. Interestingly, he was made captain as well. Not sure if that tells us anything about Mowbrays plans for O'Dea or not, as there was no real stand out candidates in the other 10 starters for the captaincy.

Additionally, Mowbray has now played Donati at CB in 2 games (he moved there in the 2nd half, replacing Loovens), which suggests he fancies him there (certainly as cover) so could be added competition for O'Dea in a sense, though his preference has been to start with Donati in his traditional midfield role.

Performance wise, O'Dea did well enough, though Aberdeen did little in an attacking sense apart from a 10 minute spell they had following their goal. If he plays on Tuesday against Arsenal (Its on Sky Sports) we'll see more of what he's made of.

[tetsujin1979]

God help him (and Celtic, and the rest of the Premier League) if Arsenal play like they did today. Granted Everton were poor after they went 3-0 down, but Arsenal never stopped playing dominant football.

[the doc]

[QUOTE=Junior;1212493]O'Dea made the starting 11 today. McManus is still injured and Caldwell was also out so he partnered Loovens. Interestingly, he was made captain as well. Not sure if that tells us anything about Mowbrays plans for O'Dea or not, as there was no real stand out candidates in the other 10 starters for the captaincy.

Additionally, Mowbray has now played Donati at CB in 2 games (he moved there in the 2nd half, replacing Loovens), which suggests he fancies him there (certainly as cover) so could be added competition for O'Dea in a sense, though his preference has been to start with Donati in his traditional midfield role. [QUOTE]

From what I'm hearing Mowbray still wants to sign St Ledger but will need to offload players to afford PNE's asking price of 5m.

[Mcgeady46]

[QUOTE=Junior;1212493]O'Dea made the starting 11 today. McManus is still injured and Caldwell was also out so he partnered Loovens. Interestingly, he was made captain as well. Not sure if that tells us anything about Mowbrays plans for O'Dea or not, as there was no real stand out candidates in the other 10 starters for the captaincy.

Additionally, Mowbray has now played Donati at CB in 2 games (he moved there in the 2nd half, replacing Loovens), which suggests he fancies him there (certainly as cover) so could be added competition for O'Dea in a sense, though his preference has been to start with Donati in his traditional midfield role. [QUOTE]

From what I'm hearing Mowbray still wants to sign St Ledger but will need to offload players to afford PNE's asking price of 5m.

5m is laughable for st ledger not good enuf for celtic simple as!

O Dea is by far a better player

[Junior]

Hulls desire to land our RB Hinkel (for circa £4m-£6m depending on where you read) is looking more likely to succeed, though it will be after Tuesdays game against Arsenal, could fund a CB purchase. Though we have 4 first team CB's as it is, so one of these would have to go.

As Ive said previously though Doc - Im not reading any real transfer gossip on any sort of levle that a St-Ledger move is on the offing and Id be ****in raging if we paid anywhere like £6m for a championship player with a couple of caps, despite his potential - we simply cant afford it.

[boovidge]

5m is laughable for st ledger not good enuf for celtic simple as!

O Dea is by far a better player


The fact that SSL is a leading player in a good championship side and is a full international whereas O'Dea is a Celtic benchwarmer behind two average CBs would suggest otherwise

[Razors left peg]

I like the look of St Ledger but I honestly wouldnt understand signing him when O Dea looks every bit as good as him any time Ive seen him.
If O Dea wants to make the world cup squad(if we qualify) then first team football this season is a must so if Celtic do sign SSL then O Dea has to move

[youngirish]

All speculation but Coyle claims he's looking at getting in some more defenders before the transfer window closes. I'd like to see him rekindle the interest he showed in O'Dea last season. Would be a good move for him imo. He would get ample opportunity to show what he could do in a stronger league and if he's up to the task there's no doubt someone would step in to buy him if Burnley got relegated.

[ifk101]

St Ledger is a better footballer than O'Dea at the moment but nowhere near a £5 million valuation. Preston would need to lower their asking price by at least £4 million if they want to sell him.

[irishfan86]

St Ledger is a better footballer than O'Dea at the moment but nowhere near a £5 million valuation. Preston would need to lower their asking price by at least £4 million if they want to sell him.

I think the key is that they don't want to sell him!

5 million seems to be a good price if they don't want to sell him, and it's not as if St. Ledger is asking to leave.

Don't understand why Celtic would sell Hinkel- I really rate him.

[the doc]

I think the key is that they don't want to sell him!

5 million seems to be a good price if they don't want to sell him, and it's not as if St. Ledger is asking to leave.

Don't understand why Celtic would sell Hinkel- I really rate him.

To raise the money to buy St Ledger!

Good article with "God and the Saint" in this weekend's Preston programme.

What a legend and nice bloke, McGrath is.

[Razors left peg]

To raise the money to buy St Ledger!

Good article with "God and the Saint" in this weekend's Preston programme.

What a legend and nice bloke, McGrath is.

That wouldnt make sense either unless Celtic were planning on play St Ledger or one of the other central defenders at right back. In my own opinion this is not a deal that is going to happen

[the doc]

That wouldnt make sense either unless Celtic were planning on play St Ledger or one of the other central defenders at right back. In my own opinion this is not a deal that is going to happen

I think Mowbrays looking to play 3 across the back in some of the away games.

St Ledger is top of Celtic's wanted list, thats what I've been told.

[Junior]

That wouldnt make sense either unless Celtic were planning on play St Ledger or one of the other central defenders at right back. In my own opinion this is not a deal that is going to happen


Thats the reality - This is not going to happen IMO.

[youngirish]

I think Mowbrays looking to play 3 across the back in some of the away games.

St Ledger is top of Celtic's wanted list, thats what I've been told.

Doc are you St Legder in the same way that Manblue is Stephen Ireland?

[geysir]

More like, "le porteur d’eau" for SSL's agent.

[tetsujin1979]

Mowbray on O'Dea: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_sport/466104/Shaun-Maloney-warmed-up-for-Arsenal-clash-by-scoring-twice-as-Bhoys-thumped-Saints.html

I want to keep Darren O'Dea hungry, fit and champing at the bit to get on and show he's worthy of a place in the starting line-up.

[Jicked]

SSN reporting that O'Dea will move on loan to a Championship club tomorrow at the player's request, but that Celtic will also offer him a contract extension.

[tetsujin1979]

According to a Celtic mailing list I'm on, Watford are in for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ipswich make a move as well

[drummerboy]

According to a Celtic mailing list I'm on, Watford are in for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ipswich make a move as well

He is a good friend of Garvan and Supple who are both on their way out so it may put him off going to Ipswich.

[Eirambler]

BBC Scotland reporting that Wolves have made a loan bid for him.

Surely a no-brainer for him if true.

[tetsujin1979]

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8230864.stm

It is also understood that the Irish defender Darren O'Dea is considering loan offers from Ipswich and Wolves.

[Manc Irish Wolf]

Hope to God it is true - would definitely be with a view to a permanent signing if it comes off as Mancienne looks far too good for us.

[Razors left peg]

if its a straight choice between Ipswich and Wolves he has to go to Ipswich.Its all about first team football for him this season and there is no way that Wolves will play 2 young loan players at center half for the season.

[Eirambler]

I'd have said he'd learn more playing 20 games in the Premier League than 40 games in the Championship.

Daily Record saying its Reading he's off to, so it probably won't be them.

[Stuttgart88]

SKY Sports News yesterday said it's definitely not Ipswich.

[drummerboy]

According to the BBC O'Dea will sign on loan for Reading as soon as he signs a new 3 year deal with Celtic. At least he will be guaranteed football for a prolonged period.

[drummerboy]

Darren just signed for Reading until January.

[co. down green]

Darren just signed for Reading until January.

Good move for O'Dea, he needs regular first team football.

It's a pity Strachan blocked his loan deal to Burnley last January, as he'd have gained great experience playing in a team pushing for a Premiership place.

Not sure that committing to Celtic for the next three years is such a good move, i would like to see him move permanently to a decent Championship team for the next couple of years.

[Junior]

It's a pity Strachan blocked his loan deal to Burnley last January, as he'd have gained great experience playing in a team pushing for a Premiership place.


Its a fair point, though by staying at Celtic, he did manage to play and score in a League Cup final win at Hampden against Rangers - which would be great experience for a lad at the club for such a long time.

[tetsujin1979]

Confirmed
Report on Celtic's site: http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_010909101213.aspx
Report on Reading's site: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10306~1784039,00.html