Dawkin's God Delusion

[jebus]

Scapegoated for it but denied it strenuously. He refers to the ten commandments in his teachings.

Of course he would, they were probably the biggest moral guidelines at the time, if he is to talk about morals at that time he would have to refer to them. And dare I say that some of those commandments ain't so bad a moral guideline to have?


See this is what I mean. What you believe is closer to Budhism or dare I say it, Jedi-ism than Christianity.

Won't deny that, I've studied Budhism too and find a lot of it useful, and George Lucas wasn't always unable to see the sunshine because he had his head up his own arse either :p


For what its worth take a few steps in a materialist direction and you have my views on the universe.

I'd rather not take those steps to be honest


Again thats pretty much central to being a Christian.

Not thinking Jesus is the Son of God? Or having respect for someone preaching love and tolerance?

[BohsPartisan]

Believing he was the son of God.

I'd rather not take those steps to be honest
Ah come on, the ground is solid over here.

[finlma]

Jebus,

Your beliefs seems a little muddled to me and certainly not the beliefs of a Christian. Perhaps you should envestigate other religions such as Buddhism.

Religion isn't a pick and mix thing - you don't just have the bits you believe in and the bits you don't. It either exists in 1 format or doesn't at all.

I'm still waiting on a Christian to give me a good reason why god exists?

[dahamsta]

I don't agree with that at all finmla tbh, I think that if anything, that's how religion should be. People should ignore all the bloody idiots and books telling them what to do and decide what they'd like to believe, and use that to lead their lives. That's what I've done, and I'm happy as a pig in poo with my mish-mash of weird beliefs. More importantly, I'm no harm to anyone with it, unlike the bloody fundamentalists.

adam

[BohsPartisan]

And dare I say that some of those commandments ain't so bad a moral guideline to have?



6 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; 7you shall have no other gods before me.
Hmmm...Not really applicable to me.

You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 9You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me, 10but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation* of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Bit harsh don't you think? Would footie teams count as "false idols"?

11 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
Not very nice either.


12 Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you. 13For six days you shall labour and do all your work. 14But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock, or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you. 15Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.
Hmmm...six day week? Don't fancy that much.


16 Honour your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, so that your days may be long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
This is fine but do we need god to tell us that (disclaimer, its fine as long as your parents treat you well, if they are alco scumbags who sell your bed linnen to feed their drink habit I don't see why you should honour them.

17 You shall not murder.
goes without saying, yet when some of the Israelites made a gold calf to worship god ordered Moses to kill 'em. He also ordered various Israelites to wipe out various tribes.

18 Neither shall you commit adultery.
But what if you're a woman (or man) who's spouse treats you mean, should you stay keen?

19 Neither shall you steal.
Not even in the Robin Hood sense?

20 Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbour.
Fair enough

21 Neither shall you covet your neighbour’s wife.
So is the wife the property of the neighbour?

Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
Slavery is fine though.

[osarusan]

Hmmm...Not really applicable to me.

He said some of them. Choosing ones that dont apply to you and using them is hardly a good arguement.

Bit harsh don't you think? Would footie teams count as "false idols"?

Would they count to you? As false idols for a religion you dont believe in?

Not very nice either.


Hmmm...six day week? Don't fancy that much.

Why the joke? Or are you really a socialist who doesnt value hard work?


This is fine but do we need god to tell us that (disclaimer, its fine as long as your parents treat you well, if they are alco scumbags who sell your bed linnen to feed their drink habit I don't see why you should honour them.

goes without saying, yet when some of the Israelites made a gold calf to worship god ordered Moses to kill 'em. He also ordered various Israelites to wipe out various tribes.

But what if you're a woman (or man) who's spouse treats you mean, should you stay keen?

Again, why the jokes?

Not even in the Robin Hood sense?

Fair enough

So is the wife the property of the neighbour?

Slavery is fine though.

Do you really think Jebus thinks that? Or thinks Christianity defends that?


Bohsparstisan, I admire a lot of your posts on here, but have to say this was a pretty weak post.

You say that anybody who does not adhere to the Christian guidelines is not a true Christian, which I disagree with. Jebus believes (I think)
that the simple message of Christianity is to be good and honest to others. Hardly deerves to be mocked.

As somebody who constantly has to defend his political beliefs with the idea that the examples given are evidence that the perpetrators do not follow those beliefs correctly, you might have more tolerance for the point he is making.

[BohsPartisan]

My point in that post is illustrated in the quote at the top it is not to ridicule Jebus's beliefs which I have no problem with. In fact if you'd read the introduction to The God Delusion, you'd see Dawkins has no real beef with the type of beliefs held by Jebus.

[finlma]

That's what I've done, and I'm happy as a pig in poo with my mish-mash of weird beliefs. More importantly, I'm no harm to anyone with it, unlike the bloody fundamentalists.

adam

I hear what you're saying Adam and it might make you happy but at the end of the day its not the truth (or is it??). Only 1 thing can happen to you after you die and its the same thing that will happen to everyone else, there can't be a filtering system with people going to different heavens and so forth.

I'm really interested to hear what Christians think will happen to the likes of myself, BohsPartisan, all Islams, Jews, Mormons, Buddhists, Hindus when we die. We will be able to come into your heaven or do we have to go and smash rocks when we meet our maker Beelzebub? This isn't directed at you Adam but perhaps Jebus or Osarasun.

Also an interesting point being made here is that the Bible teaches you do be a good person, moralistic, etc. Well I don't believe a word of it and I'm a law abiding, kind, caring person.

[dahamsta]

I don't really believe in heaven or hell, nor do I not believe in them, if you get my point. I certainly don't believe in the bible, and I reckon if there really was a Jesus, then he was probably just another bible thumper (with another bible, obviously); that's assuming he wasn't generally considered a Waco waiting to happen.

I have a set of morals and ethics that probably originate in christianity/catholicism because I was raised as such until I was 12 or so, but it all seems pretty obvious to me and I reckon I'd have them whether I had or not. However I do reckon that that middle ground between belief and non-belief in something in particular is a belief in and of itself. Call it agnosticism if you need to label. I don't, unless I meet someone that needs labels. I generally don't think it's worth talking about in general conversation.

I'm not really sure what truth has to do with it. There's a difference between belief and knowledge. I can differentiate between them.

adam

[Poor Student]

Fair comment but alot of that is based on contensious historical "evidence" (hearsay).
Somthing on the Essenes - it seems two Foot.ie posters are experts on this:

BP, I don't want to get into the whole "Was Jesus an Essene?" question. It's something I'm barely versed on, but I just wanted to point out to you that there were varying schools of thought within Judaism back then. There was at least a very clear Sadducee and Pharisee tradition. The Essenes are not as well understood, and it's possible the term encompassed a lot of fringe non-mainstream groups. The Quamran community where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found is believed to have been an example of an Essene community. Anyway, Sadducees believed in a very literal and harsh interpretation of Torah Law whereas the Pharisees believed in a more interprative approach supplemented by a strong oral tradition. You can't just say he was a Jew and as such believed in something set. He seems to have been neither a Sadducee (those would have been the High Priests who pushed for his execution or a Pharisee (they're mentioned somehwere negatively in the New Testament).

[Lionel Ritchie]

PS. 1st Corinthians 6:9-10, homosexuals will not be allowed into heaven.

...except on the last saturday of each month. then it's all gay all day.

[BohsPartisan]

...except on the last saturday of each month. then it's all gay all day.

Cosmopolitans half price!

[jebus]

I'm really interested to hear what Christians think will happen to the likes of myself, BohsPartisan, all Islams, Jews, Mormons, Buddhists, Hindus when we die. We will be able to come into your heaven or do we have to go and smash rocks when we meet our maker Beelzebub? This isn't directed at you Adam but perhaps Jebus or Osarasun.


Well I don't believe in a Heaven or Hell, well not the ones as set put in the Bible anyway, so I think whatever you do with yourself in your life, good or bad, you won't get judged on it at the end. As I said, I'm more guven to believe in a life force running through everything, so when you die I think you go back into said life force.

As for an earlier point you made about me being muddled about my beliefs, I'm not at all, just have different ones to you, but I know what I believe and what I don't. And IO sthink dahamsta handled your point about not being able to pick and mix different religions well, so I'll just say that I agree with everything he said in that post

[Raheny Red]

What happens to Atheists when they die? What sort of 'ceremony' is there:confused:

[strangeirish]

What happens to Atheists when they die? What sort of 'ceremony' is there:confused:
Dunno. Wonder what they say when they have an orgasm?:eek:

[BohsPartisan]

What happens to Atheists when they die? What sort of 'ceremony' is there


Ceremonies (http://www.irish-humanists.org/cere.html)

Dying as an Atheist in America (http://www.atheists.org/comingout/dying.html)


Dunno. Wonder what they say when they have an orgasm?

I usually say "You're Welcome!" ;)

[jebus]

I usually say "You're Welcome!" ;)

It beats "I owe you one" any day of the week :D

[Vitruvian Man]

Dunno. Wonder what they say when they have an orgasm?:eek:

They cry "I DON'T BELIEVE IT" in their best Victor Meldrew voice.

[Lionel Ritchie]

...I've just read a stat in Dawkins' God Delusion that somewhat disgusted me.

Seemingly 3% of people would not rescue a drowning child from a pond if they risked ruining their favourite trousers in the process.

If true that means there's about 180 million people out there who deserve to be pushed off a cliff.

[John83]

Don't believe everything you read.

[GavinZac]

a lot of people are saying "im a christian, i dont believe in the whole wine-into-blood thing, devils with pitchforks and the walking on water, but i agree with a lot of what jesus said".

i think a lot of jamie oliver's books are good but that doesnt make me a bloody oliverian. no-one's attacking "treat your neighbour as you would wish to be treated", they're just saying you don't need the ability to break the laws of physics for a loaf of bread, to make common sense.

the reason "christianity" and "satanism" are classed as religions is their adherences to nonsensical mysticism. the "fraternatae" ideals of the french revolution and machiavellian "every man for himself" tactics would say just as much in respect to ethics but arent classed as religions because you don't need to throw away your common sense to follow them.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Don't believe everything you read.

Well that's why I said...

If true that means there's about 180 million people out there who deserve to be pushed off a cliff.;)

[Boh_So_Good]

There maybe be something evolutionary about man's need for religions. Perhaps it bonds people together and ensure optimum chances for large scale reproduction. More partners etc.

You have do to wonder as humans are always creating religions. Communinism/Socialism was a religion as much as the Catholic Church - Man-made Global Warming is a new religion and like Communism/Socialism is based on false mythology and requires blind faith and demented fanatics to keep it going. There only reason why humans would be drawn to deeply irrational concepts devoid of positive proof such as Socialism and Man Made Global warming has to be evolutionary. ie; get them into groups so they can breed.

[BohsPartisan]

the reason "christianity" and "satanism" are classed as religions is their adherences to nonsensical mysticism. the "fraternatae" ideals of the french revolution and machiavellian "every man for himself" tactics would say just as much in respect to ethics but arent classed as religions because you don't need to throw away your common sense to follow them.


Please refer to Gavin Zac's post above for the difference between a religion and adherance to something like Communism.



Global Warming is a new religion and like Communism/Socialism is based on false mythology and requires blind faith and demented fanatics to keep it going.

The rest of your post shows you don't deserve to be taken seriously. If you think man made global warming is devoid of proof you've got your head in the sand. As for your comments on Socialism, theres a rather long thread on it here (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=44152&highlight=Socialism) you are required to read the entire thing before making any comments on the subject! :p

As for what you say about a genetic need for religions, that is partially true. Religions are a byproduct of our evolutuion as social animals.

[Boh_So_Good]

Bohs Partisean, there is no proof at all that global warming is man made. None. You cannot prove this to be true and neither can any scientist on this planet. It's just a very, VERY loose theory, that when all the facts are looked at OBJECTIVELY does not even get off the ground, let along stand up.

There is no consensus on the issue other than the usual rent-an-apocalyse shower (remember: SARS, New Ice Age, Killer Bees, Ozone Hole, etc..etc..etc..), 2,000 UN non-science parasites spoofing, and people who think a fictional movie made by a Deep South tobacco plantation owner (who's family got wealth from slaves) must be somehow real as he slows down when talking to the camera like we are all morons. Al Gore is a crazy aristocrat wacko who is talking absolute and complete ****** in his "woooooooooo spooky dudes..." movie.

This Man Made Global Warming bull**** is all great news for the commies/socialists as they can attack the West/Capitalism/USA from this kooky new angle, as most of them still cannot understand why everybody ran West when the Berlin Wall came down. They just cannot deal with the fact that this Commie/Pinko stuff does not work and never will.

There is far more proof that the sun is causing the rise in earth temps. There is even no proof we "getting hotter" - we could just as much be returning to normal mean temp - but nobody even knows what the mean temp should be in the first place. That's how "solid" climate science is - ie; it's not.

Mars, Venus and the Moon are all heating up as well. So the sun is a much more likely culprit than your evil US/Capitalists.

As for your other points/deities. Marx and Ingles were prophets. James Connolly and Larkin were diclipes. Communisim/Socialism had it all from holy texts, sacred icons, religious shrines, commandments, fanatics, missionaries and so on. Liberty Hall is a church spire when you think about it and could just of easily been called 'The Church of the Holy Connolly'.

FFS, SIPTU has more cranky old men with beards issuing fathwahs than Hizbolla.

The fact that you so easily couple your religious faith (Communism/Socialism), with the revelations-style hype surrounding Al Gore's Movie, proves that you are just as much of "repent, repent, the end is nigh!" type as any redneck storefront preacher in the Deep South.

I am amazed how you cannot see this for yourself. You are completely lost in a religious experience. But the good news is you chance of getting laid are much better. Assuming you are OK with some SWP hermaphodite in a boiler suit from Dalkey, that is.

Ironic eh, everything you claim to be against you are. Now pray to sacred heart of Jim Larkin and ask him to bring the wrath of Marx on the Capitalist infidels by raising the waters and drowning them like Moses did to the Egyptians...

Think about it.

[BohsPartisan]

Well posts like that won't help people take you seriously. As I said, there are threads on these subjects already with civilised debate. If you want to have it out in a civilised manner do it in the right place. The only excuse there is for the above post is if you are at most 14 years old.

[osarusan]

Bohs Partisean, there is no proof at all that global warming is man made. None. You cannot prove this to be true and neither can any scientist on this planet. It's just a very, VERY loose theory, that when all the facts are looked at OBJECTIVELY does not even get off the ground, let along stand up.

There is no consensus on the issue other than the usual rent-an-apocalyse shower (remember: SARS, New Ice Age, Killer Bees, Ozone Hole, etc..etc..etc..), 2,000 UN non-science parasites spoofing, and people who think a fictional movie made by a Deep South tobacco plantation owner (who's family got wealth from slaves) must be somehow real as he slows down when talking to the camera like we are all morons. Al Gore is a crazy aristocrat wacko who is talking absolute and complete ****** in his "woooooooooo spooky dudes..." movie.

This Man Made Global Warming bull**** is all great news for the commies/socialists as they can attack the West/Capitalism/USA from this kooky new angle, as most of them still cannot understand why everybody ran West when the Berlin Wall came down. They just cannot deal with the fact that this Commie/Pinko stuff does not work and never will.

There is far more proof that the sun is causing the rise in earth temps. There is even no proof we "getting hotter" - we could just as much be returning to normal mean temp - but nobody even knows what the mean temp should be in the first place. That's how "solid" climate science is - ie; it's not.

Mars, Venus and the Moon are all heating up as well. So the sun is a much more likely culprit than your evil US/Capitalists.

As for your other points/deities. Marx and Ingles were prophets. James Connolly and Larkin were diclipes. Communisim/Socialism had it all from holy texts, sacred icons, religious shrines, commandments, fanatics, missionaries and so on. Liberty Hall is a church spire when you think about it and could just of easily been called 'The Church of the Holy Connolly'.

FFS, SIPTU has more cranky old men with beards issuing fathwahs than Hizbolla.

The fact that you so easily couple your religious faith (Communism/Socialism), with the revelations-style hype surrounding Al Gore's Movie, proves that you are just as much of "repent, repent, the end is nigh!" type as any redneck storefront preacher in the Deep South.

I am amazed how you cannot see this for yourself. You are completely lost in a religious experience. But the good news is you chance of getting laid are much better. Assuming you are OK with some SWP hermaphodite in a boiler suit from Dalkey, that is.

Ironic eh, everything you claim to be against you are. Now pray to sacred heart of Jim Larkin and ask him to bring the wrath of Marx on the Capitalist infidels by raising the waters and drowning them like Moses did to the Egyptians...

Think about it.

Well congratulations. In my time on foot.ie, I've read a lot of stuff, but this may be the most idiotic post I have ever read. Both in its logic (or lack of), and its attempt to be fair and factual while actually being very insulting and severely biased, it wins my prize of "Worst post ever".

(I tried to attack the post only, not the poster)

[jebus]

Looks like someone watched a Channel 4 documentary recently. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not going to list the mountain of findings on global warming being accelerated by man (note not a man made product), but I will point out that even GEORGE W BUSH has admitted that man has had an adverse effect on global warming. Now think about it, if George W can admit he was wrong can't we all.....especially you?

[kingdom hoop]

Well congratulations. In my time on foot.ie, I've read a lot of stuff, but this may be the most idiotic post I have ever read.


agreed. i read it a second time just for the laugh, and i think i'll be giggling to myself all day now.

[Boh_So_Good]

[QUOTE=jebus;658341]

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As for Dubya, politicans are just whores, they'll jump on any bandwagon and "man made global warming" is a very useful one for them as it's a golden goose in terms of raising the government coffers through taxation. Even a moron like Bush sees the potential for increasing US military aid through "carbon footprint" taxation which is why I suspect he is suddenly on board.

There is the same level of proof for man made global warming as there is for a God. NONE. They both require the same leap of faith - as the facts to no stack up. As for Commnism/Capitalism, that's a religion alright. Honest, it is!

[Boh_So_Good]

i'll be giggling to myself all day now.

I do that every time I pass your moss-covered GAA ground in Tallaght.

[BohsPartisan]

Are you "A Mayo Sheep" in disguise?

[jebus]

[QUOTE=jebus;658341]Looks like someone watched a Channel 4 documentary recently. QUOTE]

This coming from a poster who spends his time on this board "proving" that 9/11 was an inside job...and posts endless YouTube psychotic episodes to prove it. Oh the Irony!

Pardon me if I take your rebuttle as a compliment, Jebubs. Amazing really, you claim a Channel 4 documentaryis bogus in it's facts, but you support every nutjob 9/11 You Tube video as fact. :D

As for Dubya, politicans are just whores, they'll jump on any bandwagon and "man made global warming" is a very useful one for them as it's a golden goose in terms of raising the government coffers through taxation. Even a moron like Bush sees the potential for increasing US military aid through "carbon footprint" taxation which is why I suspect he is suddenly on board.

There is the same level of proof for man made global warming as there is for a God. NONE. They both require the same leap of faith - as the facts to no stack up. As for Commnism/Capitalism, that's a religion alright. Honest, it is!


Honestly are you making that up? Or just confusing me with someone else? Jeebus maybe? (altho I don't think he posts 9/11 inside posts either). I don't think I've ever said 9/11 was initiated by the Americans, and I'm certain I've never posted a youtube video that shows 'proof', so could you kindly either go through my posts and show me where I did, or take your head out of your ass and delete your post, thanks

[BohsPartisan]

Think he's mixing you up with Anto, and the fact he remembers that despite having only 14 posts shows that he was here before under a different name. Definite WUM.

[pineapple stu]

Report him so.

[Boh_So_Good]

[QUOTE=Boh_So_Good;658419]
Honestly are you making that up? Or just confusing me with someone else? Jeebus maybe? (altho I don't think he posts 9/11 inside posts either). I don't think I've ever said 9/11 was initiated by the Americans, and I'm certain I've never posted a youtube video that shows 'proof', so could you kindly either go through my posts and show me where I did, or take your head out of your ass and delete your post, thanks

My mistake and apology if I confused with you the person(s) on the 9/11 threads who kept posting the YouTube crackpot "documentaries". So sorry if I have confused you with another poster.

My point about Global Warming and Marxism being at their very core, faith-based religions with no credible evidence to support them still stands.

There is no proof of Global Warming being made by mankind. Sorry, there just isn't. That's the god honest truth.:D

Media scare-mongering and hysteria is not a means to scientifically quantify any theory. Especially one who's champion is a Deep South aristocrat sitting on a pile of money made from slaves and cancer telling the rest us to cut back on our comforts while he spend 30,000 Dollars a month on electricity and flies first class everywhere.

As for Communism, did I mention which direction the people behind the Iron Curtain ran for freedom when the socialist paradise cage they were imprisioned within by Bohs Partisean's heroes collasped. It wasn't towards the Kremlin.

Speaking of the Kremlin itself, it was the Saint Peter's Square of Communism. They even had their own version of an uncorrupted saint called Lenin which pilgrims flocked to pray to.

All kinds of crazy religions out there...

[Boh_So_Good]

Report him so.

It was an innocent mistaken identity.

I deleated the paragraph about Jebus and 9/11 as I mistook him for another poster and offered him an apology.

[BohsPartisan]

My point about Global Warming and Marxism being at their very core, faith-based religions with no credible evidence to support them still stands.


For the last time, you are way off topic here.


As for Communism, did I mention which direction the people behind the Iron Curtain ran for freedom when the socialist paradise cage they were imprisioned within by Bohs Partisean's heroes collasped. It wasn't towards the Kremlin.

Speaking of the Kremlin itself, it was the Saint Peter's Square of Communism. They even had their own version of an uncorrupted saint called Lenin which pilgrims flocked to pray to.

All kinds of crazy religions out there...
All these spurious arguements are dealt with here. (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=44152&highlight=Socialism) Read the whole thread and then only add something if its something new.

[Lionel Ritchie]

There is no proof of Global Warming being made by mankind. Sorry, there just isn't. That's the god honest truth.:D
....

Scepticism is good. I'm a big fan of it. Without it, we'd still be advertising cigarettes on bus-stops hoardings to kids.

Now I'd have far more time for the Man Made Global Warming Sceptics if they weren't
A.) strapped to either some very real or at least idealogical interest in maintaining the status quo and therefore finding another culprit, anything at all, that could create plausable deniability.

B.) Jeremy Clarkson

C.) nutbars who think it's all a lefty/commie/pinko conspiracy to get us to return to cave dwelling.

D.) Michael O'Leary

[GavinZac]

surely we've wandered a bit off topic.

[Lionel Ritchie]

surely we've wandered a bit off topic.

...on a tangent perhaps. BSG claims religious status for political beliefs (socialism/communism) and societal or environmental concerns.

That he is talking rank garbage shouldn't need restating but there I go.;)

Anyway ...great book. Dealing with the bible at the moment and what a wonderful example of good living it is for all mankind.

There's more riding in it than there is on the fantasy channel ...and not just regular ridin' either ...funky, funky stuff ...motherfcukin', fatherfcukin!!!. ... gang rape and frankly you wouldn't find as much man on man action in Schindlers Fist.

[GavinZac]

Take a gander at Ezekiel 23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023:20;&version=31;)

[finlma]

Getting back on topic - it was fantastic to see Dawkins getting awarded Author of the Year at the Galaxy British Book Awards. Thoroughly deserved and hopefully spread the good word.

3LV-6E6i5WI

[jebus]

Thoroughly deserved and hopefully spread the good word.


That sounds awfully like something that would have been said about the Gospels, had there been book awards back in the day. Looks like South Park have called the way this Dawkins Delusion is going straight down the line :p

[Lionel Ritchie]

Take a gander at Ezekiel 23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023:20;&version=31;)

Funky, funky party people. :cool:

[John83]

Take a gander at Ezekiel 23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023:20;&version=31;)
Or Exodus 35:2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2035:2;&version=31;) for that matter.

[BohsPartisan]

Or Exodus 35:2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2035:2;&version=31;) for that matter.

Thats my kinda day! :cool:

[micls]

Some of you would have a riot on the City forum at the moment. One lad arguing the case that the Bible is Gods word, completely true and he doesnt see any evidence for evolution. Most of us have given up Second and third pages of this thread
http://www.ccfcforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17191&hl=

[Lionel Ritchie]

Or Exodus 35:2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2035:2;&version=31;) for that matter.
2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death

I think Pete might be telling the LORD to move to France.:D

[Schumi]

2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to deathPresumably, you don't get put to death until Monday.