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I have noticed that Amhrán na bhFiann was sung with much more gusto this weekend & two weeks ago against France
Two games running it's been left to the crowd to sing, not some numpties on the pitch to "lead"/ruin the anthems. I hope this policy continues, as it's one my irritants of the last few years.
On the game, great performance from the pack, especially the front row. If they can scrummage like that in the World Cup we could be in with a real chance - Italy will tell us a lot on that score.
I'd be slightly concerned that BOD and Darcy are just about passing fitness tests, and whether they'll be long term implications given they are muscle injuries. Every game so far they've both pulled up at around 65 minutes. btw Geordan who?
osarusan
26/02/2007, 10:47 AM
Two games running it's been left to the crowd to sing, not some numpties on the pitch to "lead"/ruin the anthems. I hope this policy continues, as it's one my irritants of the last few years.
Agreed. I think that listening to one person sing the anthem, with the crowd mikes turned down, is much worse than listening to the entire crowd belt it out. A much deeper, richer, more emotional sound.
OneRedArmy
26/02/2007, 12:37 PM
I disagree. I don't remember GstQ being booed when England played at Lansdowne in the soccer games or indeed in Stuttgart or Sardinia. Some Irish plum mouthed historian whom Sky wheeled out said the same thing as you but Irish soccer fans have always respected the opponent's anthem, including GstQ.Point taken on the Irish side, but the Engerland football fans certainly would've boo'ed Amhrán na bhFiann, as they do every other nations anthem.
OneRedArmy
26/02/2007, 12:39 PM
Was it not Republican Sinn Féin rather than just Sinn Féin. Not that I am a supporter of either.Yes, it was RSF (supplemented by the hoodie brigade and the lad in the Celtic shirt, who is now learning the meaning of irony the hard way).
DubJohn
26/02/2007, 2:33 PM
I disagree. I don't remember GstQ being booed when England played at Lansdowne in the soccer games or indeed in Stuttgart or Sardinia. Some Irish plum mouthed historian whom Sky wheeled out said the same thing as you but Irish soccer fans have always respected the opponent's anthem, including GstQ.
I think I remember GStQ being booed and whistled the last time we played them, the abandoned game at Lansdowne..
I think I remember GStQ being booed and whistled the last time we played them, the abandoned game at Lansdowne..
yeah you could barely hear the anthem that night such was the volume of booes and whistles
Bottle of Tonic
26/02/2007, 9:32 PM
I have noticed that Amhrán na bhFiann was sung with much more gusto this weekend & two weeks ago against France then you will ever hear for GAA match.
Maybe this is because GAA isn't an international game, hence supporters will just mouth along quietly with the words. There is no one to impress, it is the anthem of both teams and both sets of supporters
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I really hate the GAA habit of cheering before the anthem is finished. :(
Does this not happen in soccer too? I personally don't mind it anyway. I think it is a passionate anthem and as it builds to its peak just before the last line the juices are flowing and people let out a roar of defiance in support of their team. Not unlike the anthem itself.
GAA fans wouldn't have been happy about it either given all the history, so of course their was a risk.
The vast, vast majority of GAA fans were positive about the opening of Croke Park. The sweeping statements made about the GAA on this site are as out of touch as the views they are accused of holding.
Bottle of Tonic? More like 2 bottles of the bucky.... :eek: :D
Schumi
27/02/2007, 9:57 AM
Does this not happen in soccer too?Not that I've ever noticed.
Does this not happen in soccer too? I personally don't mind it anyway. I think it is a passionate anthem and as it builds to its peak just before the last line the juices are flowing and people let out a roar of defiance in support of their team. Not unlike the anthem itself.
Never noticed it for Ireland football Internationals. I would have thought GAA people would hate this habit too & strive to have it cut out.
:o
shakermaker1982
27/02/2007, 11:13 AM
awesome performance. If only our so called football stars showed 10% of that kind of commitment, aggression and determination. Wallace and Leamy seemed to be everywhere. O'Gara showed he's the best number 10 in the northern hemisphere and our backs had the pace and imagination to frighten any team in the world right now.
Andyh
27/02/2007, 12:31 PM
Great performance by Ireland. Not much to say but that they dominated in every area of the pitch.
I have noticed that Amhrán na bhFiann was sung with much more gusto this weekend & two weeks ago against France then you will ever hear for GAA match. I really hate the GAA habit of cheering before the anthem is finished. :(
Not to come over as controversial, but Amhrán na bhFiann must have been sung with added gusto by many if you consider that there was
a.) thousands of England fans obviously not singing it.
b.) The vast majority of fans from NI/Ulster not singing it - many wouldn't even know where to start (In Irish) even if they had wanted to for some reason.
Just an observation
OneRedArmy
27/02/2007, 1:29 PM
b.) The vast majority of fans from NI/Ulster not singing it - many wouldn't even know where to start (In Irish) even if they had wanted to for some reason.A group of lads from the North I went to the game with(from the other side of the religious fence so to speak) made the effort to print it out phonetically from wikipedia and sang along.
Your original point is obviously valid! but I thought it was a nice effort all the same.
Bottle of Tonic
27/02/2007, 3:05 PM
Never noticed it for Ireland football Internationals. I would have thought GAA people would hate this habit too & strive to have it cut out.
:o
They are in recent seasons trying to cut it out, talk of lack of respect etc. In Ulster you heard the anthem right the way through to the end all last season and they are trying to spread it to the other three provinces. However as I said I don't mind the last few lines being encroached upon in this particular manner, similar to the 'clubs on the tricolour' debate from last week, it's not something to be highly strung over - chill out and have a beer I say;)
Pete you talk as if you know no GAA fans??? We're not a different race, most like all sports, and we even merge into the crowd for a few of those foriegn games these days:cool:
geysir
27/02/2007, 4:13 PM
Don't mind Pete, he has a GAA obsession, even in a Rugby thread he can't keep a lid on it.
They are in recent seasons trying to cut it out, talk of lack of respect etc. In Ulster you heard the anthem right the way through to the end all last season and they are trying to spread it to the other three provinces.
See. thats all you have to say.
However as I said I don't mind the last few lines being encroached upon in this particular manner, similar to the 'clubs on the tricolour' debate from last week, it's not something to be highly strung over - chill out and have a beer I say;)
Its still disrespectful as the GAA constantly suggesting they the protectors of all patriotism.
OwlsFan
28/02/2007, 12:35 PM
awesome performance. If only our so called football stars showed 10% of that kind of commitment, aggression and determination.
Yawn. If they did they'd be sent off! Can't compare the two sports. Much easier to show aggression and determination in rugby where you are allowed flatten an opponent.
paul_oshea
28/02/2007, 2:29 PM
Yawn. If they did they'd be sent off! Can't compare the two sports. Much easier to show aggression and determination in rugby where you are allowed flatten an opponent.
Yawn...Yawn....10% of all of the above in the national anthem from the players would do me ;)
shakermaker1982
01/03/2007, 9:42 PM
Yawn. If they did they'd be sent off! Can't compare the two sports. Much easier to show aggression and determination in rugby where you are allowed flatten an opponent.
don't be daft. Football isn't a non contact sport and the players are allowed to tackle from time to time. Roy Keane made a living out of his aggression, courage and determination. It can be done.
Torn-Ado
05/03/2007, 1:46 PM
don't be daft. Football isn't a non contact sport and the players are allowed to tackle from time to time. Roy Keane made a living out of his aggression, courage and determination. It can be done.
I wholeheartedley agree.
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