Chris Hughton(B. 1958)

[geysir]

On the flipside, being the guy who blows the ten in a row would get him seated alongside John Barnes and Tony Mowbray in Celtic folklore. Even Ronny Deila succeeded in keeping the run going.
Yes but are you not claiming that the flipside of Chris Hughton, who is an epitome of confidence, positivity and football coach supremo, are the voices in your head and john Barnes?
That's a bit of a stretch DL :)

[Jolly Red Giant]

I still disagree on Hoolahan. He played most of the previous season when they finished 11th, and he was outstanding. I remember looking at the the stats at the time and they didn't concede any more goals with Hoolahan starting than without, but created far less. Hoolahan didn't leave the bench for that 7-0 Manchester City match you mention, for example, so it's not as if leaving him out made them any more solid. Hughton remained stubborn until the end though despite Norwich getting worse and worse.
Hughton knew he needed to grind out results - now I agree that he should have place Hoolahan, but I can understand why he didn't and stats don't tell everything.

When Hughton was sacked Norwich were five points above the relegation zone - in the 8 games before he was sacked they had 2 wins and 2 draws. The Norwich board panicked because the fans were getting on the backs of the team and demanding Hughton be sacked. I still think Hughton would have kept Norwich up - but we will never know that one.


I do agree that a manager needs time to build a Premier League team, but I couldn't help feeling Brighton had began to plummet under him. I can see why action was taken. They'd have probably been relegated but for the farcical decisions that went against Cardiff in that match against Chelsea a few weeks back, granted these things allegedly 'balance out' over a season. We'll never know if he'd have got them moving in the right direction again next season, maybe he would have.
Gross and Locadia were injured - his two best attacking options on the pitch - Andone acted like a primadonna every time he was put on the pitch - the guy wouldn't track back. Brighton needed pace - but the brain trust in the Brighton transfer dept decided not to buy pace last season.

Hughton could have taken them forward - Bissouma would have been a year older and had a years experience of the PL under his belt (he was playing well at the end of the season) and Jahanbaksh has had a year to adjust and might come good. If Brighton buy a couple of midfielders with pace and a striker who can score 15 goals then Brighton would be in a much better place. Hughton had built a solid defence and his Brighton were very hard to beat. Man City struggled to beat them 1-0 in the cup semi-final and then went out and hammered 6 past Watford.

Potter coaches a different type of game - there are already rumours that he wants to dump Duffy because he doesn't pass the ball out from the back - Duffy was Brighton's best player last season. Now Potter might turn out to be good (but you don't get rid of an experienced manager who has never been relegated to back an unknown quantity whose reputation has been significantly overhyped). IMO unless Brighton spend about £100million bringing in 3-4 players and scrap their wage cap to get players good enough - they will struggle far worse that they did this season. The problem is their owner Bloom makes his money from gambling and he uses analytics - he is all about not overspending for players - but the PL is the one place you have to significantly overspend in order to survive.

[SkStu]

Potter coaches a different type of game - there are already rumours that he wants to dump Duffy because he doesn't pass the ball out from the back - Duffy was Brighton's best player last season. Now Potter might turn out to be good (but you don't get rid of an experienced manager who has never been relegated to back an unknown quantity whose reputation has been significantly overhyped).

Good post overall JRG.

However, Duffy fulfils a very specific role in a very specific type of team. In many ways, his way of playing is from 20 years ago. Most coaches in the Premiership nowadays expect their centre backs to be able to receive the ball and find a pass. Duffy simply cannot and does not do that. While he is a threat in the opposition box and a bullish, strong defender in his own, he also gives the ball away far more than most which, from my perspective, would have created a lot of the pressure that B&HA found themselves under during games. The question is whether the benefits outweight the risks. If Potter wants a ball player there then you have to say fair enough and, to your point, let him live and die by his decisions.

Personally, I wouldn't have Duffy anywhere near the Irish team if I was manager for the reasons outlined above. He gets a pass from many due to his commitment and passion but he just turns the ball over way too much for my liking. Its a nonstop hoof-fest when he is on the pitch.

[SkStu]

Good post overall JRG.

However, Duffy fulfils a very specific role in a very specific type of team. In many ways, his way of playing is from 20 years ago. Most coaches in the Premiership nowadays expect their centre backs to be able to receive the ball and find a pass. Duffy simply cannot and does not do that. While he is a threat in the opposition box and a bullish, strong defender in his own, he also gives the ball away far more than most which, from my perspective, would have created a lot of the pressure that B&HA found themselves under during games. The question is whether the benefits outweight the risks. If Potter wants a ball player there then you have to say fair enough and, to your point, let him live and die by his decisions.

Personally, I wouldn't have Duffy anywhere near the Irish team if I was manager for the reasons outlined above. He gets a pass from many due to his commitment and passion but he just turns the ball over way too much for my liking. Its a nonstop hoof-fest when he is on the pitch.

Pun not intended :D

[Trequartista20]

Is appointed the new Nots Forrest manager.

[backstothewall]

Is appointed the new Nots Forrest manager.

That's a great move by them. With Villa, Leeds and Newcastle all doing well the Premier League could finally be getting it's big clubs back

[samhaydenjr]

Is appointed the new Nots Forrest manager.

Oh good, another club he can take up to The Premier League, only for them to sack him because they don't qualify for Europe. Any chance of him ever becoming Ireland manager?

[irishfan86]

On merit, reasonable to suggest he’s more qualified than Kenny. If memory serves he was still in Brighton job during application process and ruled himself out as he was happy where he was. If in a non-Prem job when the position is next available I’d suggest he’d put his name forward and would be a frontrunner.

He doesn’t always play the most attractive football but has a good resume/track record IMO.

Would probably play a similar style to O’Neill, who depending on who you listen to was our best manager since Jack Charlton or an abject failure ! (Love this sport!)

[geysir]

Have Forrest flipped from being promotion contenders, to having a dose of a jitters and then to a basket case club inside 10 games? I read that young Chris is now 61 years old.

[seanfhear]

Have Forrest flipped from being promotion contenders, to having a dose of a jitters and then to a basket case club inside 10 games? I read that young Chris is now 61 years old.Its not Forest's fault that Chris is 61 Years Old ~ ~ Maybe everything else is !

[ColourfulPeanut]

I would say there's a very high chance he's our next manager if he fancies it. The timing was never right but it could be time when the job comes up again.

He doesn't play beautiful football but he'd get us results.

[John83]

He doesn't really have any peers in terms of experienced Irish managers, does he? Dave O'Leary, of course, but his career has taken quite the nose-dive since his glory days at Leeds and I think he hasn't worked in nearly a decade.

[Fixer82]

He was involved with Kerr during his stint (was he Assistant Manager?).
Always remember him writing a novel to show to players on the sideline before they came on as a sub

[geysir]

Its not Forest's fault that Chris is 61 Years Old ~ ~ Maybe everything else is !

I was at the game when young Chris made his intl debut. Post playing career, apart from being trendy with the energetic use of the clipboard, he's always looked fitter and decades younger than everybody else he worked with.

Now it's a bit a shock to read that he's 61. This Forrest job will age him beyond the irish job. 2 seasons to get them up, 2 seasons in the bottom third , then a season in relegation zone followed by the boot or relegation followed by the boot.

[Fixer82]

So he was 31 in Italia 90. At which he didn't feature due to Steve Staunton taking his place.

I don't remember seeing him much in green after that. Certainly not after 1992. Was it injury or did Jack just stop picking him with the arrival of Terry Phelan?

[seanfhear]

I was at the game when young Chris made his intl debut. Post playing career, apart from being trendy with the energetic use of the clipboard, he's always looked fitter and decades younger than everybody else he worked with.

Now it's a bit a shock to read that he's 61. This Forrest job will age him beyond the irish job. 2 seasons to get them up, 2 seasons in the bottom third , then a season in relegation zone followed by the boot or relegation followed by the boot.
I reckon just looking at the Forest Job could put 20 years on ya :WINK:

[pineapple stu]

So he was 31 in Italia 90. At which he didn't feature due to Steve Staunton taking his place.

I don't remember seeing him much in green after that. Certainly not after 1992. Was it injury or did Jack just stop picking him with the arrival of Terry Phelan?
He certainly vanished quickly from first-choice at Euro 88. Wiki says he retired altogether in 1993 after a season and a bit with Brentford, who he joined in early 92. Before that, he had a season and a bit with West Ham, mostly in Div 2. So I guess he fell away and there were better options, like Stan and Phelan as you say.

[Trequartista20]

So he was 31 in Italia 90. At which he didn't feature due to Steve Staunton taking his place.

I don't remember seeing him much in green after that. Certainly not after 1992. Was it injury or did Jack just stop picking him with the arrival of Terry Phelan?

His club career rather fell into decline from the late 80s onwards. He only made 8 league appearances for Spurs in the 89/90 season and left for second division West Ham the following season, staying there for a couple of years, before joining after third-tier Brentford.

He still made the odd Irish squad until about '92 but the emergence of Staunton and Irwin obviously limited his chances.

[geysir]

Does the ol' Jack Nicklaus standby apply? 'Chris has served under more managers than Jack Nicklaus has golf clubs'.

[Stuttgart88]

I saw him at Moorgate tube station last month. I didn't have the presence of mind to stop him, say I'm an Irish footy loving stranger and tell him he's great. I just let him go past in the other direction.

[tetsujin1979]

Announced as head coach of the Ghanaian national team
https://www.ghanafa.org/chris-hughton-takes-charge-of-the-black-stars

[dynamo kerry]

I saw him at Moorgate tube station last month. I didn't have the presence of mind to stop him, say I'm an Irish footy loving stranger and tell him he's great. I just let him go past in the other direction.
Torn on that. I think if I saw him now after reading this I'd stop him and tell him myong standing Internet forum person I know a tiny bit about (consistent football opinions) thinks he's great.(and so do i)
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[Fixer82]

Announced as head coach of the Ghanaian national team
https://www.ghanafa.org/chris-hughton-takes-charge-of-the-black-stars

His father is Ghanaian if I’m not mistaken.
Wish him huge success

[OwlsFan]

Now out of work as Ghana fail to progress :{