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paul_oshea
08/05/2014, 10:37 AM
Typical, snidey, O'Shea-professing -to-know-it-all but really doesn't, reply :)
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Yes thats right.

So where to now for Wes and Anthony and perhaps nathan? He had 1 good season in the premiership but I cant see anyone else coming in for him, such a shame, he never got a fair crack of the whip in his career.

Charlie Darwin
08/05/2014, 3:48 PM
Wes will be looking to go to Villa again, while Sunderland and WBA might be back in. Pilkington will be lucky to find a Premier League club that will take a chance on his injury record. Redmond will be in high demand.

Olé Olé
08/05/2014, 10:51 PM
I can't imagine Wes will cost/earn a wedge so with a relatively small outlay someone like Sunderland, WBA or Villa will acquire a player who can help impose a high-pressing, possession game and that appears to be all the rage these days.

tricky_colour
09/05/2014, 11:04 PM
Well Norwich down, a feather in Hughton's cap in a way.

BonnieShels
09/05/2014, 11:32 PM
http://i61.tinypic.com/qxteuu.gif

gastric
13/05/2014, 10:55 AM
Would be a damn good opportunity for Hughton.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/english/2014/0513/616944-hughton-favourite-for-west-brom/

Charlie Darwin
30/12/2014, 7:45 PM
Looks like Hughton's set to be named the new Brighton boss.

tricky_colour
01/01/2016, 2:08 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34914013


How Chris Hughton transformed Brighton into promotion contenders By Rob Stevens BBC Sport
When Chris Hughton took charge of Brighton & Hove Albion (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30640697) on New Year's Eve 2014, he inherited a side languishing 21st in the Championship.
One year on, the Seagulls are in contention for promotion to the Premier League following a record-breaking start to the season.
Here, BBC Sport looks at how the 57-year-old has transformed fortunes at the Amex Stadium.
Managerial pedigree Hughton's predecessor Sami Hyypia was a left-field appointment by chairman Tony Bloom in the summer of 2014 - and one which backfired.
The Finn had a successful playing career with Liverpool but was exposed in what was his second managerial job, and he resigned in mid-December (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30497171) following a run of one win in 18 games.
Hughton, meanwhile, spent several years on the coaching staff at Tottenham, led Newcastle to the Championship title in 2009-10 and Birmingham to the play-offs in 2011-12 before going on to manage in the Premier League with Norwich.



More on link...

tricky_colour
01/01/2016, 8:45 PM
Another defeat today, seem to have hit a bit of a rocky patch, however they were all decent teams and narrow results,
Away to Hull next, so another tough fixture.

Stuttgart88
02/01/2016, 9:43 AM
...and a highly avoidable own goal too. Football can be tough and fascinating in equal measure. There are times that you just can't buy a result even if you play well.

geysir
17/04/2017, 6:28 PM
After last season's disappointments, it's a notable success for Chris Hughton to bounce back and gain promotion in such style, pulling up before the finish.
If only he's get Richie Towell match fit.

tricky_colour
17/04/2017, 10:44 PM
Congratulations to Chris on promotion, after last season's disapointements lesser managers would have thrown in the towel.

Eminence Grise
18/04/2017, 8:59 AM
Chris isn't one for needlessly throwing in the Towell.

OwlsFan
24/04/2017, 1:13 PM
Chris isn't one for needlessly throwing in the Towell.

You have a dry sense of humour.

Eminence Grise
24/04/2017, 9:42 PM
Somtimes it rubs people up the wrong way!:D

DannyInvincible
29/04/2017, 1:28 AM
A really good read, this; Donald McRae of the Guardian interviews Hughton about the imbalance between white and BAME managers in England, racism in football, his socialist politics, his hopes for Brighton in the Premier League next season and other interesting bits of his life and methods: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/28/chris-hughton-brighton-thirst-knowledge-manager


The “incredible imbalance” has long been, as Hughton says, “between those of ethnic backgrounds playing football, often at very good clubs, having good careers, being captains of their teams, and an absence in senior management. There have been some changes and it has been encouraging at academy and grassroots level – but still not at the top level. The game has a responsibility to redress the balance.”

Hughton looks up. There is no bitterness in his voice but that stark sentence echoes a bare statistic. Only two out of 92 managers in English league football are not white men. Twenty-five percent of players in English football’s four divisions are from a black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) background – but no worthy acronym is pinned to the fact that over 97% of managers are white. It makes Hughton, an astute and calm manager, seem exceptional.

bennocelt
29/04/2017, 9:45 AM
BAME? what the f is that

(ok i see............from a black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) background)

Happy for Hughton, one of footballs nice guys and I feel he was unfairly treated at Norwich and Newcastle

DannyInvincible
23/05/2017, 2:45 AM
Hughton won the Championship's 'Manager of the Year' award: http://www.punditarena.com/football/bbarry/chris-hughton-championship-manager-year/

tetsujin1979
23/05/2017, 11:04 AM
Few strange things about that article.
There's no quotes from the football league, or Brighton in that article.
The title of the page calls the award "Championship Manager of the Year", but the article text calls it "Championship Manager of the Season"
I can't find any record of "Championship Manager of the Year" on the football league's website: https://www.google.com/search?q=Championship+Manager+of+the+Season+site:w ww.football-league.co.uk
And, despite that article being published yesterday, the three embedded tweets are all more than a month old, and appear to just be fans, as opposed to official accounts

Charlie Darwin
23/05/2017, 11:44 AM
https://twitter.com/LMA_Managers/status/866768525708414977

DeLorean
13/05/2019, 9:03 AM
Let go by Brighton (sacked seemed too harsh a word in the circumstances :)). They probably did him a favour really, he's left them in a much better way than he found them - https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2019/may/club-statement-chris-hughton/

tetsujin1979
13/05/2019, 9:08 AM
he'll bounce back from this, with his promotion record, every team in the Championship will be looking for him as manager

Diggs246
13/05/2019, 10:01 AM
he'll bounce back from this, with his promotion record, every team in the Championship will be looking for him as manager

And a lot of premier teams. Should keep his power dry until the new year.

Brighton will be relegated next season nothing surer

Olé Olé
13/05/2019, 10:31 AM
Birmingham, Newcastle and Norwich are his former clubs and all have experienced volatility in his absence. He hadn't a great season with Brighton but I am sure next season he could have consolidated again.

Some clubs never learn the lessons of others in sacking reliable managers.

DeLorean
13/05/2019, 10:36 AM
I don't know. Sometimes clubs need a change of direction or a bit of freshness to kick on. It can go either way after that obviously. There was a a lot of criticism when Southampton got Pochettino in instead of Nigel Adkins for example.

geysir
13/05/2019, 10:43 AM
I don't know if the player transfer market values are accurate, but there's an uncanny relationship between squad transfer market value and the table position (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1) end of season.
B&H Albion are 17th in both tables.
I think he'll be leaving with distinction. He's been there 5 seasons, long enough, probably has been their longest serving manager since football was invented. He'll get plenty of other job offers, no problem.

Olé Olé
13/05/2019, 3:30 PM
Someone mentioned Hughton to Celtic to me. Interesting shout. Rodgers managed to re-build his career up there. And he has the Irish link to Celtic.

tetsujin1979
13/05/2019, 3:44 PM
I was thinking Middlesbrough myself.

Diggs246
13/05/2019, 3:50 PM
back to Newcastle perhaps???

elatedscum
13/05/2019, 5:34 PM
I don't know if the player transfer market values are accurate, but there's an uncanny relationship between squad transfer market value and the table position (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1) end of season.
B&H Albion are 17th in both tables.
I think he'll be leaving with distinction. He's been there 5 seasons, long enough, probably has been their longest serving manager since football was invented. He'll get plenty of other job offers, no problem.

To a certain extent that's chicken and egg stuff. Are they assembling a squad of accumulative lesser value or is their position in the league reflected in individual players valuations. But I think transfermarkt uses the teams performances, league and player position to value players to a certain extent. For example, both Dunk and Duffy are valued at £10.8m which is really low to me. I'd have them both in the £20-25m range along with Pascal Gross who has been linked to Liverpool and is valued at £9m and is surely closer to £20m than £10m.

geysir
13/05/2019, 6:13 PM
That maybe, but the end result obtained is a remarkable similarity between the position in the table of monetary value and the league table position.

DeLorean
14/05/2019, 8:35 AM
Someone mentioned Hughton to Celtic to me. Interesting shout. Rodgers managed to re-build his career up there. And he has the Irish link to Celtic.

Hughton has been a pretty defensive minded manager for the most part so not sure he'd be a good fit at Celtic. I suppose you could argue the same with Newcastle and he did well there. That's a good while back though at this stage.


I was thinking Middlesbrough myself.

Perfect!

geysir
14/05/2019, 7:17 PM
Middlesbrough is akin to joining the civil service.
Why doesn't he just take a year of, go climb Everest or K2, solo, with or without an O2 tank.

liamoo11
15/05/2019, 9:46 PM
If potter takes the Brighton job it might open opportunities for molumby and Connolly potter seemed to bring youth through at Swansea but maybe that was necessity more than choice.

Fixer82
15/05/2019, 9:59 PM
Hughton has been a pretty defensive minded manager for the most part so not sure he'd be a good fit at Celtic. I suppose you could argue the same with Newcastle and he did well there. That's a good while back though at this stage.



Perfect!

Is it natural that a former defender like Hughton will be defensive minded and a former attacker will be attack-minded?

I think Mick McCarthy has struck a nice balance managing Ireland in the past. Hopefully he will again.

Hughton deserves to be in the premier league in my opinion.
But I can see him going back to the championship before Christmas. Any club would be lucky to have him.

samhaydenjr
16/05/2019, 12:37 AM
Already being linked with West Brom: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/15/west-brom-target-chris-hughton-next-manager-promotion-failure/

DeLorean
16/05/2019, 9:55 AM
Is it natural that a former defender like Hughton will be defensive minded and a former attacker will be attack-minded?

There are probably loads of examples for and against that theory. I suppose it depends on resources and circumstances too sometimes.

tetsujin1979
17/05/2019, 8:58 AM
I was thinking Middlesbrough myself.
I'm not saying the Middlesbrough board read foot.ie, but I'm not saying they don't either https://www.mfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-tony-pulis

Jolly Red Giant
19/05/2019, 12:38 PM
Hughton has been a pretty defensive minded manager for the most part so not sure he'd be a good fit at Celtic. I suppose you could argue the same with Newcastle and he did well there. That's a good while back though at this stage.
Hughton works with what he has available - if you don't have the players you can't play attacking football.

When Brighton were in the Championship Hughton had them playing an attacking passing-orientated game. When they got into the PL playing like that would have brought a 6-0 hammering every week.

Hughton did a remarkable job keeping Brighton in the PL for two seasons - particularly given the fact that he didn't have control over transfers - something that is underappreciated by fans who think their club should be constantly progressing. Hughton is a very under-rated manager. Next season Potter will be manager and if he attempts to do what he did with Swansea this season, Brighton will be relegated by Christmas. The step up from the Championship to the PL is massive - particularly when you don't have a striker capable of 15 goals a season (or two capable of getting 25 between them).

As for Hughton going to Celtic - he would be an excellent choice for them - but I think his attitude will be that he still has something to prove in the PL. He will probably have to drop to the Championship again (possibly WBA) and get promoted. If he is given 4-5 years at a club in the PL he will prove how good he is. The again he is 60 years old and he may relish the prospect of managing a club playing in Europe before he is finished.

Fixer82
21/05/2019, 9:45 PM
Hughton works with what he has available - if you don't have the players you can't play attacking football.

When Brighton were in the Championship Hughton had them playing an attacking passing-orientated game. When they got into the PL playing like that would have brought a 6-0 hammering every week.

Hughton did a remarkable job keeping Brighton in the PL for two seasons - particularly given the fact that he didn't have control over transfers - something that is underappreciated by fans who think their club should be constantly progressing. Hughton is a very under-rated manager. Next season Potter will be manager and if he attempts to do what he did with Swansea this season, Brighton will be relegated by Christmas. The step up from the Championship to the PL is massive - particularly when you don't have a striker capable of 15 goals a season (or two capable of getting 25 between them).

As for Hughton going to Celtic - he would be an excellent choice for them - but I think his attitude will be that he still has something to prove in the PL. He will probably have to drop to the Championship again (possibly WBA) and get promoted. If he is given 4-5 years at a club in the PL he will prove how good he is. The again he is 60 years old and he may relish the prospect of managing a club playing in Europe before he is finished.

I agree worth all of the above

DeLorean
22/05/2019, 10:56 AM
Hughton works with what he has available - if you don't have the players you can't play attacking football.

When Brighton were in the Championship Hughton had them playing an attacking passing-orientated game. When they got into the PL playing like that would have brought a 6-0 hammering every week.

Hughton did a remarkable job keeping Brighton in the PL for two seasons - particularly given the fact that he didn't have control over transfers - something that is underappreciated by fans who think their club should be constantly progressing. Hughton is a very under-rated manager. Next season Potter will be manager and if he attempts to do what he did with Swansea this season, Brighton will be relegated by Christmas. The step up from the Championship to the PL is massive - particularly when you don't have a striker capable of 15 goals a season (or two capable of getting 25 between them).

As for Hughton going to Celtic - he would be an excellent choice for them - but I think his attitude will be that he still has something to prove in the PL. He will probably have to drop to the Championship again (possibly WBA) and get promoted. If he is given 4-5 years at a club in the PL he will prove how good he is. The again he is 60 years old and he may relish the prospect of managing a club playing in Europe before he is finished.

That's fair. I'll bow to your superior knowledge as to the type of football Brighton played in the Championship, I honestly don't know. I always have it in the back of my mind the way he ended up treating (omitting) Wes Hoolahan, as a toothless Norwich plummeted towards the relegation zone. Obviously I'm biased, but it was counter productive in the extreme given their lack of creativity.

I'm not as sure that he'd be an excellent choice for Celtic but would love to see him do well there if he did get it.

seanfhear
22/05/2019, 12:05 PM
If he did get the Celtic job then perhaps he could play a more attacking style of football . He could possibly get away with trying that there , where it is very risky at a club like Brighton trying to stay in the top division in England .

Jolly Red Giant
23/05/2019, 7:28 PM
That's fair. I'll bow to your superior knowledge as to the type of football Brighton played in the Championship, I honestly don't know. I always have it in the back of my mind the way he ended up treating (omitting) Wes Hoolahan, as a toothless Norwich plummeted towards the relegation zone. Obviously I'm biased, but it was counter productive in the extreme given their lack of creativity.

I'm not as sure that he'd be an excellent choice for Celtic but would love to see him do well there if he did get it.
13 wins - 6 draws - 1 defeat in the last 20 games of 2015-2106 - including beating Bristol City, Leeds and QPR 4-0 and Fulham 5-0. His teams scored 72 goals and had 17 different goalscorers.

In 2016-2017 - after the beginning of October Brighton were in the top two for the rest of the season - scoring 74 goals and had four players score more than 12 goals each (Murray got 25).

You can go back further - when he was manager of Newcastle in 2010-2011 his team played free flowing attacking football - beating Villa 6-0, Sunderland 5-1 and being involved in many high scoring games (including several they lost). Hughton knew they were not going to be relegated and with players at his disposal he let them off the leash. He was sacked by Ashley because Ashley wanted a 'bigger name' and then he gave the job to Alan bloody Pardew - probably the most over-rated English manager of the last 20 years.

At both Norwich and Brighton he had little to work with. I loved Wes Hoolahan but Hughton couldn't afford to commit to attack - that Norwich team would have been ripped apart. Man City beat them 7-0, Liverpool 5-1 - they had to grind out results just like at Brighton this season. Brighton had the third lowest wage bill in the PL - he got them to one place higher. Southampton finished one spot above Brighton and paid their players more than double the wages - Southampton had 14 players paid more than the highest paid player at Brighton. On top of that - his two best attacking players were injured for most of the season. The guy did a remarkable job for Brighton - and it must be really frustrating for him that he keeps teams going and ends up getting the sack anyway. It takes years to build up a squad capable of sustained play in the PL because of the massive money gap between PL and Championship.

geysir
23/05/2019, 11:54 PM
That's fair. I'll bow to your superior knowledge as to the type of football Brighton played in the Championship, I honestly don't know. I always have it in the back of my mind the way he ended up treating (omitting) Wes Hoolahan, as a toothless Norwich plummeted towards the relegation zone. Obviously I'm biased, but it was counter productive in the extreme given their lack of creativity.

I'm not as sure that he'd be an excellent choice for Celtic but would love to see him do well there if he did get it.
The very questionable patch with Hughton in his whole managerial career was with Norwich in their relegation year, but that does not define the man, he's more than proved he's a very capable manager since. I'd be curious to see how he would do at Celtic with a team that's expected to dominate/attack all the time, and how he would deal with the challenge to get in to the CL group stages.

irishfan86
24/05/2019, 4:23 AM
I have no doubt Hughton would be a good fit for Celtic. He’s proven he can play attacking football against inferior opposition but compete with a lesser side against big teams.

Celtic is in that strange situation where they are expected to dominate domestically and play as underdogs on the continent — Hughton has the experience and the skillset to get the best of his team in both competitions.

The only question is if he sees the Scottish league as beneath him.

seanfhear
24/05/2019, 5:12 AM
I have no doubt Hughton would be a good fit for Celtic. He’s proven he can play attacking football against inferior opposition but compete with a lesser side against big teams.

Celtic is in that strange situation where they are expected to dominate domestically and play as underdogs on the continent — Hughton has the experience and the skillset to get the best of his team in both competitions.

The only question is if he sees the Scottish league as beneath him.
Careful now . Skirting close to being racist against the Scots there . I am not sure if , in these political correct days whether I am being serious or not .

DeLorean
24/05/2019, 9:34 AM
The very questionable patch with Hughton in his whole managerial career was with Norwich in their relegation year, but that does not define the man, he's more than proved he's a very capable manager since. I'd be curious to see how he would do at Celtic with a team that's expected to dominate/attack all the time, and how he would deal with the challenge to get in to the CL group stages.

There's nobody doubting that, both before and since I would say.

DeLorean
24/05/2019, 10:31 AM
I loved Wes Hoolahan but Hughton couldn't afford to commit to attack - that Norwich team would have been ripped apart. Man City beat them 7-0, Liverpool 5-1 - they had to grind out results just like at Brighton this season.

Interesting stats on Brighton and their Championship form. I didn't realise they were quite that prolific.

I still disagree on Hoolahan. He played most of the previous season when they finished 11th, and he was outstanding. I remember looking at the the stats at the time and they didn't concede any more goals with Hoolahan starting than without, but created far less. Hoolahan didn't leave the bench for that 7-0 Manchester City match you mention, for example, so it's not as if leaving him out made them any more solid. Hughton remained stubborn until the end though despite Norwich getting worse and worse.

I do agree that a manager needs time to build a Premier League team, but I couldn't help feeling Brighton had began to plummet under him. I can see why action was taken. They'd have probably been relegated but for the farcical decisions that went against Cardiff in that match against Chelsea a few weeks back, granted these things allegedly 'balance out' over a season. We'll never know if he'd have got them moving in the right direction again next season, maybe he would have.

geysir
24/05/2019, 11:46 AM
I have no doubt Hughton would be a good fit for Celtic. He’s proven he can play attacking football against inferior opposition but compete with a lesser side against big teams.

Celtic is in that strange situation where they are expected to dominate domestically and play as underdogs on the continent — Hughton has the experience and the skillset to get the best of his team in both competitions.

The only question is if he sees the Scottish league as beneath him.
There's the redemption factor
Then there's the legendary factor, in two years time he would be the Celtic manager left standing to hold aloft the 10 in a row spl trophy and about to complete the quintuple treble.
Would that not get him seated at the right hand of Jock Stein?

DeLorean
24/05/2019, 12:24 PM
There's the redemption factor
Then there's the legendary factor, in two years time he would be the Celtic manager left standing to hold aloft the 10 in a row spl trophy and about to complete the quintuple treble.
Would that not get him seated at the right hand of Jock Stein?

On the flipside, being the guy who blows the ten in a row would get him seated alongside John Barnes and Tony Mowbray in Celtic folklore. Even Ronny Deila succeeded in keeping the run going.