Irish Cricket 2007

[Sheridan]

Ireland are going reasonably well against Middlesex at Castle Avenue, Clontarf today (get up there if you can an enjoy a day's cricket in the sun.) Having won the toss and elected to bat, Ireland are currently 76-2 after 23 overs. A good platform, but they need to step up the run rate dramatically in the last 20 overs or so.

Dom Joyce's return to the national team lasted only 9 runs, whereupon he was caught by his brother Ed off the bowling of the Indian spinner Murali Karthik, who's proving a tricky customer. Kenny Carroll was first man out for 22 after putting on 55 for the first wicket with Porterfield (still there on 42*.) Kevin O'Brien is the new man in, with Alex Cusack due to make his Ireland début on his home ground upon the fall of the next wicket.

[pete]

Ireland Innings
161 for 6 (43.4 overs)

Edit:
176 all out.

You can listen live on BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/default.stm)

I've just learnt Burgers & Hot Dogs on sale at the top of the ground. :D

[Sheridan]

I'm listening too (speakers dangling into the garden), you'd think they'd switch the mics off during the interval.

Another crap performance. Cusack did okay on début, making 29. Porterfield top-scored with 68. There's a growing lobby to recall former captain Jason Molins (probably the only member of the Jewish community to captain Ireland at any sport?) who's currently in good form, but it's questionable whether selecting a man playing club cricket in the UK would send the right signals.

[Sheridan]

Another miserable defeat at Clontarf today. Middlesex knocked off the 176 required inside 38 overs for the loss of just four wickets. Nantie "Wayward" Hayward went wicketless for 47 off his nine overs and Alex Cusack was clobbered for 29 off his two. Kyle McCallan kept a lid on things with a typically economical spell of 0-32 off 10. Thinus Fourie's figures of 3-41 off ten were respectable too.

Judas Joyce hit 45 for Middlesex and Turncoat Morgan 20*, including the winning runs.

[TheBoss]

Do they care about this competition ?

[Sheridan]

Not so much this year, it was a bit of an inconvenience. No excuse for the results, though.

[Drogman.]

Have to say that myself and few others had a great day out yesterday. Sun beaming down, cool cider constantly flowing and some nice BBQ food there too.

Pity Ireland didn't play too well. Started well but then the run rate was nearly at a standstill for a few overs before coming back to life a little later.

Next one in Clontarf that would be worth going to is on the 14th of July, against the West Indies. Should be another good day.

[BohsPartisan]

Next time you're going let me know.

[Drogman.]

Next time you're going let me know.

Yeah will do. The next one is the day after we play Bohs at home in the league. :D

[Dodge]

http://ie.setanta.com/portal/systemcontent/tvschedule?open&channel=setantasportsie&dateadjust=11&

Setanta Sports Ireland are showing the Ireland v India one day international live on Saturday June 23.

I haven't checked the rest of the schedule tos ee if they're showing any other games

[Sheridan]

That's great news. They're showing Ireland vs. South Africa the next day too, according to that schedule.

Unfortunately, André Botha will miss the series due to an elbow injury. He might be back in time for the quadrangular tournament against West Indies, Netherlands and Scotland in July.

[TheBoss]

That is great !

Still will get hammered though as a result of previous performances :D

[Poor Student]

Will Ireland be able to call up the likes of Rankin and Morgan for those internationals?

[Sheridan]

Yeah, the counties have to release them for ODIs. Rankin's injured, though, he's unlikely to feature until July.

[onceahoop]

I think our results reflect the fact that we've lost some of our best players to the counties plus the fact that we have to hire mercenaries who are guaranteed their money and also there has to be a reaction to the world cup as these palyers are basically amatures. Listened to a bit of Trent Johnston on RTE Sport on Radio 1 on Saturday. He's not happy with the results but feels we're doing a bit of rebuilding. Mentioned Alex Cusack amongst others.

[TheBoss]

Are these players proving they have a future with the team on a regular basis ?

[Sheridan]

No play as yet at Stormont in today's wooden spoon fixture against Glamorgan. Pitch inspection at 1.40 p.m. This tournament has been a washout in every sense.

[osarusan]

I have a question for a knowledgeable cricket fan.............

In a run out, how is it decided which batsman has been runout?

I know in some cases it is obvious, as there is one batsman at the other end and the other batsman diving for the crease, and just being runout........ but there are other cases where one batsman runs and the other does not, and both of them are at the end where the runout happens......and other cases, usually on the last ball of an innings, where the batsman try and run regardless, but usually haven't gone far before the stumping happens - who is "out" - the batsman closest to the ball, or the batsman who was running toward that end?

[Sheridan]

The batsman closest to the broken wicket at the time of impact is out. I've never witnessed any scenario in which this was ambiguous, to be honest. If one man runs and the other doesn't (as sometimes happens when a superior batsman is trying to preserve his wicket, for example during the Ireland-Zimbabwe World Cup game) the runner is given out.

[osarusan]

Cheers. here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SLpqAymTE&mode=related&search=) is an ambiguous one for you.

[Sheridan]

That's a very interesting example, in the end there's no ambiguity because Morton's safe (bat grounded) and Chanderpaul isn't, but it clarifies the tiebreaking method applied when two batsman occupy the same crease (first come, first served.)

[osarusan]

If Chanderpaul had never left his crease, Morton would have been given out? As the runner?

[Sheridan]

Yep. Once he'd vacated the safe haven of his crease, "ownership" was up for grabs and Morton got there first.

[Sheridan]

Ireland vs. Glamorgan abandoned due to rain. Ireland finish bottom of Friends Provident South Conference with three points (all from rain abandonments.)

[TheBoss]

There was something that confused me the other week when watching the Windies v England, the commentators were mentioning that this player was a ''Night Watch Man'', what exactly is that ?

[Dodge]

If a batsman gets out with half an hour (or similar) to play at tne end of the day, some teams will put out a realtively poor batsman in order to keep their main batsman fresh to play the next morning (without having to play in poor light, no warm up etc etc)

It backfred on England a couple of years ago when they brought in Matthew Hoggard as Nigthwatchman but he was out first ball with a shockingly wild swing.

[Sheridan]

A night-watchman is a tailend batsman (usually a "dead bat" with a relatively sound defensive technique) promoted up the order and sent out to bat when a wicket falls shortly before close of play, with the intention of seeing out the remaining overs before stumps are called. This is done to prevent the next scheduled recognised batsman from having to make two cold starts (one in fading evening light against adrenalised bowlers, the other early the next morning) by replacing him with a more expendable tailender.

Ideally, the night-watchman should block his way through to close of play and then hit out or get out on the following morning to make way for a recognised batsman. Jason Gillespie bucked the trend by scoring a double century as a night-watchman for Australia against Bangladesh last year.

[TheBoss]

Cheers for that !

[OwlsFan]

Off to Chester Le Street in Durham to see a "test match" for the first time this weekend. Booked in for the Saturday session but the forecast is for thunderstorms :rolleyes: The wife has volunteered to come along. I am expecting a lot of questions during the day :)

[Sheridan]

Ireland have named a drastically depleted squad for the ODIs against India and South Africa. Botha, Rankin and Langford-Smith are ruled out by injury, Jeremy Bray has asked not to be considered, Peter Gillespie has retired from international cricket and Eoin Morgan, shamefully, made himself unavailable in order to play Twenty20 for Middlesex.

The squad is therefore as follows.

Trent Johnston (Railway Union) Captain
Kenny Carroll (Railway Union)
Alex Cusack (Clontarf)
Thinus Fourie (Merrion)
Dominick Joyce (Merrion)
Gary Kidd (Waringstown)
Kyle McCallan (Waringstown)
Kevin O'Brien (Railway Union)
Niall O'Brien (Northants)
William Porterfield (Rush)
Roger Whelan (Railway Union)
Andrew White (Instonians)
Gary Wilson (Surrey)

[onceahoop]

Looks like Morgan's angling for England which was always his intention anyway. Still a chance for some new blood and good experience for squad members.

[TheBoss]

It will be valuable experience for the new lads to show what they can do v the top teams hopefully they can get some at the crease. What is Morgan like, turning down his country to play in meaningless tournament that is only for crowd pleasing rather than the players.

[BobtheDrog]

He was told if he didn't stay and play he wasn't guranteed his place when he got back

[Dodge]

It backfred on England a couple of years ago when they brought in Matthew Hoggard as Nigthwatchman but he was out first ball with a shockingly wild swing.


Deja vu (although it wasn't first ball). Compounded by Pietersen getting himself out on the last ball of the day

[TheBoss]

BobtheDrog: Well, he should play for a club that want him to play, I bet the England players do not get that treatment towards their clubs.

Dodge: You would think that they would have learned :D

[pete]

I was having a look at Ed Joyces recent form & his scores are abismal considering he is/was an England Test player. Is that the future for Morgan...?

[Dodge]

His form has completely deserted him since his call up to the English side (bar one century in Australia)

[OwlsFan]

Daily Telegraph view of cricket in Ireland :rolleyes::

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ALBIKZ2BMBV2XQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQ UIV0?xml=/sport/2007/06/20/scfran120.xml

[TheBoss]

Will anyone be watching the games on Sat, Sun and Tues ?

[pete]

Live on Setanta Ireland.

Ireland batting first:

26-1 9 overs.
Carroll out for 7.

[osarusan]

75-4.

Looks like "extras" could be the biggest scorer.

[pete]

107-5 31 overs.

Niall O'Brien doing but could see a collapse once they hit the tail enders.

[Sheridan]

Ireland finished on 193, having batted out their full allocation. Niall O'Brien made a fairly streak 52, Trent Johnston an entertaining 34. Dominick Joyce look petrified at first but settled down and was hitting it crisply before he departed for 18.

I think that's a respectable total given the number of absentees and the prevailing conditions. India will knock it off in 30-40 overs but it could have been a lot worse. It's a shame that Langford-Smith, Botha and Rankin are injured as conditions are tailor-made for all three of them. Tendulkar was bowling seam-up and making it talk!

[pete]

If O'Brien had stayed in with Johnstone would maybe have been good for another 30 runs to make a match of it.

[TheBoss]

Looks like it is re-starting soon.

I am not convinced that Porterfield is a One-Day Batsman, 16 off 46 is not great going in a 50 over match.

[Jerry The Saint]

Whelan bowls Tendulkar in his debut over in ODI cricket - one to tell the grandkids. :D

Latest score: 16/1

India require 155 off 36 remaining overs (D/L)

[mypost]

Whelan bowls Tendulkar in his debut over in ODI cricket. :D

Too cold, maybe?? :confused::D

30/1 after 5

[pete]

61-1 off 13 overs.

Are Setanta trying to break the world record for adverts per hour? An ad break after every over is a bit much. "International one day cricket brought to you by...." :(

[TheBoss]

That was annoying that Ad.

In the end, They were not good enough.

[Schumi]

Are Setanta trying to break the world record for adverts per hour? An ad break after every over is a bit much. "International one day cricket brought to you by...." :(That's what the mute button on the telly is for.



Raining all day so far for the S Africa game.