Guardian article on Irish speakers.

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How so??

Civil Service??

Primary Teaching??

Tg4??

After that I'm a bit stumped :o


Every day communication, you know, talking, typing texting etc ;)

[Lim till i die]

Every day communication, you know, talking, typing texting etc ;)

As Gaeilge??

Every Day??

A ludicrous notion for all but maybe 5% of the population :rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

Would you really rather your son or daughter learn Irish when they could be learning something useful like German, French, Spanish or Italian??
I studied German for two years at college, having learnt it since I was ten. I've been working nearly six years and have never used it. I've used Irish though. Foreign languages are overrated because everyone speaks English anyway. It's nice to have, but still overrated.


Irish shouldn't be preventing someone who is excellent at the sciences (for example) from attaining the points for medicine. Could be argued that's more an arguement for reform of the points system I suppose.

I think your second line is accurate - you can argue your case for any subject, not just Irish. And most people do more than six subjects, so they can drop their weakest one in their points tally. And the points system is more to highlight those who show an aptitude for learning in general, not just in specific areas, which I think is important.


Community being the key word for me there

I have a strong sense of feeling like a Limerick person. I've a strong sense of pride in my city (Although sometimes...............) But let's be honest. What do I have in common with someone from say Castlebar other than some vague notion of "Irishness" an Irishness which I personally find to be largely abhorrent.
I think this is utter drivel, to be honest.

I go to a lot of the Irish away games. I notice cultural differences between me - and every Irish fan, no matter where they come from - and the country I'm visiting. I notice these same links when I'm on an away trip with UCD. Irishness is a very strong link throughout the country and can't be dismissed as lightly as you just have. In the sense of the report, Ireland constitues a community every bit as much as Limerick does.

[Lim till i die]

I go to a lot of the Irish away games. I notice cultural differences between me - and every Irish fan, no matter where they come from - and the country I'm visiting. I notice these same links when I'm on an away trip with UCD. Irishness is a very strong link throughout the country and can't be dismissed as lightly as you just have. In the sense of the report, Ireland constitues a community every bit as much as Limerick does.

Good for you. You obviously feel this way because you subscribe to the whole Irish thing.

I don't therefore don't feel these links

There are obviously going to be cultural differences between different regions because of the way history has evolved. This doesn't make me feel any more "Irish"

Do you really feel it necessary to tell me how I should feel about "My" country :confused:

I would disagree totally with your last point. Don't have much community spirit for Dublin or Mullingar or Carrickmacross

[pineapple stu]

You obviously feel this way because you subscribe to the whole Irish thing.

I don't therefore don't feel these links.
Well, then I would say that your views on the subject are utterly irrelevant. I would also say that you're in a rather small minority. And, to be honest, I pity you, because I now have an EU report saying that I'm generally happier than you and am going to live longer as a result. :)

That :) shows just how happy I am! :p

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As Gaeilge??

Every Day??

A ludicrous notion for all but maybe 5% of the population :rolleyes:

Every day.

Its every bit as ludicrous as you speaking English everyday?

I've had jobs where the entire job was conducted exclusively through Irish, I've gone to school through Irish, did Irish at University and generally speak Irish to friends of mine who I know from those periods of my life. Why wouldnt I speak Irish to them? Hell I've even spoken Irish to Rovers fans in Cardiff for my sins!

Next week we'll get Travellers to settle, sure they could all just live in houses like.

[Lim till i die]

Well, then I would say that your views on the subject are utterly irrelevant. I would also say that you're in a rather small minority. And, to be honest, I pity you, because I now have an EU report saying that I'm generally happier than you and am going to live longer as a result.

That shows just how happy I am!

:D shows I'm clearly happier then your pitiful :)

I've no doubt I'm in a small minority, I don't really care though

And thank you for the pity, every little helps :p

[Lim till i die]

Every day.

Its every bit as ludicrous as you speaking English everyday?

I've had jobs where the entire job was conducted exclusively through Irish, I've gone to school through Irish, did Irish at University and generally speak Irish to friends of mine who I know from those periods of my life. Why wouldnt I speak Irish to them? Hell I've even spoken Irish to Rovers fans in Cardiff for my sins!

Next week we'll get Travellers to settle, sure they could all just live in houses like.

Replace the "could" with a "should" and you'll be on to something there ;)

Congratulations on all the Irish speaking, I'm sure it's very nice. Doesn't really reflect the experiences of 99% of the population though does it

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Replace the "could" with a "should" and you'll be on to something there ;)

Congratulations on all the Irish speaking, I'm sure it's very nice. Doesn't really reflect the experiences of 99% of the population though does it

You'd be surpised how much everyday Irish speakers there are out there.

The language of choice for the Cork Hurling panel is mostly Irish. Legal community in Cork conduct a lot of their dealings in Irish, Judges with Irish were appointed there.

Walk around Kildare Street area some day and you'll hear a lot of Irish too. Same goes for Monkstown and Rathfarnham

[Dodge]

Congratulations on all the Irish speaking, I'm sure it's very nice. Doesn't really reflect the experiences of 99% of the population though does it

Nor does your attitude towards "being irish" so it works both ways...

[Lim till i die]

Nor does your attitude towards "being irish" so it works both ways...

Indeed it does and I've taken my flak in good spirit

Unfortunately though as of yet the Irish Government doesn't set aside money for the promotion of "Not Feeling Irish" so what's your point :confused:

[Lim till i die]

You'd be surpised how much everyday Irish speakers there are out there.

The language of choice for the Cork Hurling panel is mostly Irish. Legal community in Cork conduct a lot of their dealings in Irish, Judges with Irish were appointed there.

Walk around Kildare Street area some day and you'll hear a lot of Irish too. Same goes for Monkstown and Rathfarnham

Fine 98.99999% it is so :p

[paul_oshea]

Good for you. You obviously feel this way because you subscribe to the whole Irish thing.

I don't therefore don't feel these links

There are obviously going to be cultural differences between different regions because of the way history has evolved. This doesn't make me feel any more "Irish"

Do you really feel it necessary to tell me how I should feel about "My" country

I would disagree totally with your last point. Don't have much community spirit for Dublin or Mullingar or Carrickmacross
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I would say Good for us all, not just pineapple stu, if this is how you think. Good to know that not one person I have met that is Irish, anywhere anytime thinks like this.

[jebus]

To be honest I think this whole thread is irrelevant, Irish is a dead language now and should be left to rest in peace. If there was ever a time to bring it back in as the official language of Ireland than it would have been after the War of Independence, or at least after the Civil War had settled down. Back then people had an interest in Irishness and would have made the effort to speak it in day to day life, why De Valera never brought it in is beyond me, but either way he didn't and Irish is pretty much finished as a language. If people are so worried about it than send your kids to an all-Irish speaking Primary School, I was and could speak it fluently after I left the school.

On the whole notion of being Irish, well outside of having Americans fawning over me for being Irish I'm sure I have very little in common with most Irish people so I don't get the whole Irish culture thing. I don't even know what being Irish is supposed to mean to be honest, and I'm sure 95% of the people posting on this thread won't be able to give me a reasonable answer to what it does mean either

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I don't even know what being Irish is supposed to mean to be honest, and I'm sure 95% of the people posting on this thread won't be able to give me a reasonable answer to what it does mean either

It distinguishes you from the English :D

[Lim till i die]

To be honest I think this whole thread is irrelevant, Irish is a dead language now and should be left to rest in peace. If there was ever a time to bring it back in as the official language of Ireland than it would have been after the War of Independence, or at least after the Civil War had settled down. Back then people had an interest in Irishness and would have made the effort to speak it in day to day life, why De Valera never brought it in is beyond me, but either way he didn't and Irish is pretty much finished as a language. If people are so worried about it than send your kids to an all-Irish speaking Primary School, I was and could speak it fluently after I left the school.

On the whole notion of being Irish, well outside of having Americans fawning over me for being Irish I'm sure I have very little in common with most Irish people so I don't get the whole Irish culture thing. I don't even know what being Irish is supposed to mean to be honest, and I'm sure 95% of the people posting on this thread won't be able to give me a reasonable answer to what it does mean either

Ka Loo Ka Laaay

I knew it would take a fellow Limerick head to get it :)

[osarusan]

A new breakaway country, F.I.R Limerick, is in order.
(Former Irish Republic)

At least we could win the league that way.

[pineapple stu]

I knew it would take a fellow Limerick head to get it :)
It's a Limerick head (by birth) who's arguing against you too. ;)

[Lim till i die]

It's a Limerick head (by birth) who's arguing against you too. ;)

The bright lights of the capital changed you man

You used to be cool :p

[Lim till i die]

A new breakaway country, F.I.R Limerick, is in order.
(Former Irish Republic)

At least we could win the league that way.

I dunno

Pike, Ballananty, Janesboro et al, it would be really tight :)