Not Brazil
29/11/2006, 3:27 PM
what does bother me though, is these guys do vote, and they dont all vote for the PUP either....how come that is never brought into it? A friend of mine over here who is a staunch supporter of paisley, told me how when his sister was getting married a load of guys they knew to be associated with certain factions within the UVF appeared at the wedding afters. He was none too impressed and asked them to leave, but these same people were friends of his friends, and im pretty sure the same politician was elected in that constituency....
Don't really understand the point you are making here.
Both Stone and Adair were/are members of the UDA/UFF - as such they would not vote for the PUP (the political representatives of the UVF & RHC).
The PUP have little electoral support in Northern Ireland, and the political representatives of the UDA/UFF (UPRG) do not contest elections as they have been repeatedly rejected at the ballot box under previous guises.
Many loyalist paramilitary members and supporters are deeply resentful of Paisley - you may recall the "protest" by loyalists within Paisley's tent at Stormont during the GFA negotiations.
The view Paisley as a "Grand Old Duke Of York" type - he marched them up to the top of the hill, and when the going got tough, left them there.
Many loyalist paramilitaries will tell you they ended up in paramilitary organisations, spurred on by the "fear" rhetoric of Paisley - a man who has thrived by promoting constant fear into the Unionist community, and has done sweet fa constructive for the Union in his life.
The leaders of the PUP and DUP cannot stand the sight of eachother.
If you are suggesting that members/supporters of loyalist paramilitaries have voted for Paisley, I would ask you to ponder that they have also voted for the SDLP.
Don't really understand the point you are making here.
Both Stone and Adair were/are members of the UDA/UFF - as such they would not vote for the PUP (the political representatives of the UVF & RHC).
The PUP have little electoral support in Northern Ireland, and the political representatives of the UDA/UFF (UPRG) do not contest elections as they have been repeatedly rejected at the ballot box under previous guises.
Many loyalist paramilitary members and supporters are deeply resentful of Paisley - you may recall the "protest" by loyalists within Paisley's tent at Stormont during the GFA negotiations.
The view Paisley as a "Grand Old Duke Of York" type - he marched them up to the top of the hill, and when the going got tough, left them there.
Many loyalist paramilitaries will tell you they ended up in paramilitary organisations, spurred on by the "fear" rhetoric of Paisley - a man who has thrived by promoting constant fear into the Unionist community, and has done sweet fa constructive for the Union in his life.
The leaders of the PUP and DUP cannot stand the sight of eachother.
If you are suggesting that members/supporters of loyalist paramilitaries have voted for Paisley, I would ask you to ponder that they have also voted for the SDLP.