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republicofwhite
22/11/2006, 12:43 PM
Apparently Wigan And Wolves quite keen on him. Would love to see him have half the success Doyle has had...

pete
22/11/2006, 12:54 PM
O'Donovan linked to UK club, gets first thread in Ireland forum. :rolleyes:

He is not as good as Doyle was at this stage (Doyle more complete player) however O'Donovan has blistering pace & no mean finisher of chances either. Did not look out of place at all in B International.

adamcarr
22/11/2006, 5:17 PM
If he goes to Wolves he will be their main man and possibly get them promoted. The lad should be in the international squad.

Kingdom
22/11/2006, 8:17 PM
I know this is going to come across as stupid, but bear with me. The persistent beligering by the eL fanatics on this site of the promoting the local players is starting to work I believe. I myself 'throw an eye' to the local league without attending many games and will always watch a game if its on the box, but its because its the consistent name dropping that goes on on this site that has players like O'Donovan, Deery Ward et al in my head at least. Because of the hyping of some of the local talent, I'm never shocked now if I hear of a cross channel club coming in for a young eL player. So in a roundabout way, eL lunafanatics give yerselves a pat on the back, yis are the unofficial official Pr officers of the eircomLeague.
Hurrah.

Dodge
22/11/2006, 10:49 PM
O'Donovan linked to UK club, gets first thread in Ireland forum. :rolleyes:

He is not as good as Doyle was at this stage (Doyle more complete player) however O'Donovan has blistering pace & no mean finisher of chances either. Did not look out of place at all in B International.

Pretty poor finisher everytime I've seen him

dodgycanadian
23/11/2006, 3:28 AM
Thought they were already in a logjam with their strikers at wolves with bothroyd and also leon clarke who has been scoring at a fairly decent rate with jemal johnson and frankowski behind them. Ive always rated clarke very high. Speaking of wolves what happened to Darren Potter, I know he was capped by Ireland at the underage level and has being playing well this season, any chance of a callup?

Superhoops
23/11/2006, 6:59 AM
.... Speaking of wolves what happened to Darren Potter, I know he was capped by Ireland at the underage level and has being playing well this season, any chance of a callup?

Played in last week's B international against Scotland. Came on at half time to replace McPhail. Was steady enough but did nothing to suggest he is ready to step up to full international squad.

Risteard
23/11/2006, 9:51 AM
Pretty poor finisher everytime I've seen him
Before he went up front, he used surge into great positions and blaze shots over the bar (usually because he couldn't stop running).
He's more composed now and some of his recent goals have been good finishes.

pete
23/11/2006, 11:45 AM
Before he went up front, he used surge into great positions and blaze shots over the bar (usually because he couldn't stop running). He's more composed now and some of his recent goals have been good finishes.

I agree. He was tried up fron tlast year but it didn't really work. He has been in poor form for vast majority of this season. In fact he only scored first goal in August & has been in blistering form in last 2 months. He is still very raw as a forward but definitely improving.

BTW Potter was anonymous in B International. I couldn't beleive he on the books of a Premiership team & a Championship first team player.

Risteard
23/11/2006, 2:14 PM
He's also matured greatly since the start of the season, where he was a saucy *******, easily provoked and getting into stupid things.
He's still got a lot of agression and physicality about him but i thought he was heading the wrong way there for a while.
He's all the better for it now.
Being played up front helps, i suppose.
A lesson on how to take a two-week fine.:ball:
Well done Roy.

pete
23/11/2006, 2:17 PM
O'Donovan is a good example of young player return to reep the benefits of the eL.

Disguarded by Coventry only 18 months ago he became U21 International regular, 10 matches in european competitions & now has a B International cap.

el punter
23/11/2006, 2:20 PM
I imagine he's sorry the season ended when it did with himself in such outstanding form.

jimhacker
23/11/2006, 2:28 PM
I imagine he's sorry the season ended when it did with himself in such outstanding form.

So were we, so were we!

pete
23/11/2006, 2:37 PM
I imagine he's sorry the season ended when it did with himself in such outstanding form.

11 goals in last 14-15 games (i think he was suspended for a league game near end).

Peadar
23/11/2006, 2:52 PM
Pretty poor finisher everytime I've seen him

He was a much better player when he was with you. We stole him and will sell him for a song and you'll get your tiny cut, and then you'll be able to tell everyone that you made him a great player, but he was never quite good enough to get into your first team.

For everyone else, you can all go and feck right off for yourselves. O'Donovan is under contract so I'm on "tapping up" alert. You've been warned. :mad:

adamcarr
23/11/2006, 2:55 PM
I know this is going to come across as stupid, but bear with me. The persistent beligering by the eL fanatics on this site of the promoting the local players is starting to work I believe. I myself 'throw an eye' to the local league without attending many games and will always watch a game if its on the box, but its because its the consistent name dropping that goes on on this site that has players like O'Donovan, Deery Ward et al in my head at least. Because of the hyping of some of the local talent, I'm never shocked now if I hear of a cross channel club coming in for a young eL player. So in a roundabout way, eL lunafanatics give yerselves a pat on the back, yis are the unofficial official Pr officers of the eircomLeague.
Hurrah.

No Id say its just because they are good enough!:eek:

fergalr
26/02/2008, 12:46 PM
Starting a thread for Roy O'Donovan in the International forum - its long overdue.

Any views on his progress so far?

Hibernian
26/02/2008, 1:34 PM
Yes think he should be given the chance although he has long way to go before he makes the first eleven. Personally don't think he will get that far.

Ozymandias
26/02/2008, 1:37 PM
Starting a thread for Roy O'Donovan in the International forum - its long overdue.

Any views on his progress so far?

don't think it is long overdue...he is a squad player at sunderland...wants to play up front but when he does play he is on the wing....he needs to get settled at club and become a regular..if this happens he will be a decent option then

GavinZac
26/02/2008, 1:43 PM
Should've been in the squad last year for the USA.

Not really kept up with Sunderland all that much but it appears joining Keane's estimated 50 or so strikers wasn't a wise choice. Should've gone to Specsavers Fulham, as they say.

adamcarr
26/02/2008, 3:02 PM
He's not a winger, he was only ever an average player when he was on the wing for us, in fact he should'nt have started after some of his performances in the 2006 season, then he was mved up front, was very close to a goal a game ratio and got his move to the Premiership.

elroy
26/02/2008, 3:08 PM
Havent seen a whole lot of him but thats mainly cos he hasnt played much. He started against West Ham a while back and while he didnt look out of his depth, he didnt do a whole lot either. Alot of effort but not a huge amount of skill. Alot of Irish players are drawn to Sunderland but its not necessary the right move for them, i think O'Donovan is one of them. He would have had a greater chance of starting up front for Fulham

Dr. Ogba
26/02/2008, 3:10 PM
Alot of Irish players are drawn to Sunderland but its not necessary the right move for them, i think O'Donovan is one of them. He would have had a greater chance of starting up front for Fulham

Ditto Stokes, should have gone to Charlton when they were in the Prem.

pateen
26/02/2008, 3:10 PM
He was on the last day and missed a sitter but seems to be moving up the pecking order. Didnt he start a game quite recently

Seagull-4-life
26/02/2008, 3:59 PM
He won't get near the Ireland squad.

gustavo
26/02/2008, 4:40 PM
He won't get near the Ireland squad.

care to put a time frame on that?

micls
26/02/2008, 5:04 PM
Didnt he start a game quite recently

Yeah but he got injured after a half hour. He's still injured afaik

SÓC
26/02/2008, 5:35 PM
He has fantastic pace but needs to build up a bit. Remember him making a fool of Gael Clichy during an u-21 match a while back

Decent winger, quality striker.

back of the net
26/02/2008, 9:44 PM
Starting a thread for Roy O'Donovan in the International forum - its long overdue.

Any views on his progress so far?

forget about it - trappatoni wont touch him and if he cant get even get in the sunderland first team as a regular then he has zero chance of impressing trappatoni and should not be near the ireland squad


realistically he needs to move clubs - cos the only few times keane plays him are on the wing

if he moves however - it will prob be to a championship club

The Legend
27/02/2008, 9:10 PM
with regards to moving, a loan move to a championship club would have been perfect for him.

Seagull-4-life
28/02/2008, 2:07 PM
care to put a time frame on that?
Full stop I reckon. Don't see him forcing his way in

DmanDmythDledge
28/02/2008, 3:19 PM
Full stop I reckon. Don't see him forcing his way in
O'Donovan did better than Daryl Murphy in the eL and he eventually made it into the Ireland squad.

tetsujin1979
28/02/2008, 3:24 PM
O'Donovan did better than Daryl Murphy in the eL and he eventually made it into the Ireland squad.
Daryl Murphy made it into the Sunderland starting XI too, O'Donovan hasn't managed that yet.

DmanDmythDledge
28/02/2008, 3:27 PM
Daryl Murphy made it into the Sunderland starting XI too, O'Donovan hasn't managed that yet.
Not straight away though. I think O'Donovan will go on to be a better player than him, although it will be more difficult for him to make an impact in the Premiership.

tetsujin1979
28/02/2008, 3:29 PM
Fair enough, my point was that Murphy got into the Ireland team after he had established himself in the Sunderland first team, O'Donovan can't expect to join him in the Ireland team until he does the same

nijboyle
28/02/2008, 3:33 PM
Give the lad time, its a big step-up from EL to premeirship. Doyle did his time in the championship before progressing, and he has showed what a superb buy he was.

citizenerased
29/02/2008, 2:15 PM
i think he is doing well considering to be honest, but he doesnt warrant a callup yet

olegunnar
29/02/2008, 5:01 PM
roy has 3 starts and 9 sub runs this season so far, no goals.
presume he is getting reserve outings, but no data on those, but who'd care really eh??

adamcarr
29/02/2008, 6:02 PM
roy has 3 starts and 9 sub runs this season so far, no goals.
presume he is getting reserve outings, but no data on those, but who'd care really eh??

He has a few goals for the reserves and in friendlies, I think he gets a go up front in those games.

SunderlandBohs
04/03/2008, 9:54 AM
He's doing well with the reserves. He did well against Birmingham & Liverpool. Got a bad injury against Wigan. I'll rate him higher than Stokes!

rowz
04/03/2008, 12:09 PM
He was really unlucky to get a start in the Prem recently and then having to go off injured in the first half.
Before he left Cork, he had an amazing eye for goal - a much lower level, I know, but his finishing really was top class at times.
He has the speed and bustle to perhaps be a worthwhile sub towards the end of a game, but I'd imagine he needs the stepping stone of regular games in the Championship before he makes any impact in the Premier League.

pete
04/03/2008, 4:47 PM
He is a striker & not a winger. I think he would be fast even for the Premier League. Confident finisher too. Stokes is not up to much anyway.

ramsfan
04/03/2008, 10:59 PM
good player another who just needs a bit of luck to get a run in the team

micls
15/03/2008, 2:09 PM
Fit again. Starting today against Chelsea

irishfan86
17/03/2008, 7:47 PM
He played up front/in the hole in the first half and was pretty impressive, before moving to the right when Prica came on.

I'd like to see him given a go against lesser opposition, I think he could score, worked hard and looked smart up front.

pete
17/03/2008, 8:19 PM
He's getting chances left, right and centre that people like Connoly just aren't and he's not taking them. He's looked out of place anytime he's played and was lucky not to be sent off against Chelsea. I can't see Roy persisting with him.

Connolly doesn't get a chance as he has been there before & not done it. O'Donovan had his first chance playing as forward against Chelsea who Sunderland had 28% possession against so always going to be difficult. Heard Keane say he sees him as forward in the long term which is good to hear.

tetsujin1979
17/03/2008, 8:23 PM
He's getting chances left, right and centre that people like Connoly just aren't and he's not taking them.It was his second start in 6 weeks, and only his fourth overall this season. Not exactly "left, right and centre"

He's looked out of place anytime he's playedHe's not setting the world on fire, but he's certainly no worse than some of the rest of the Sunderland team

and was lucky not to be sent off against Chelsea.err, for what?

I can't see Roy persisting with him.We'll have to come back to that at the end of the season

finnpark
17/03/2008, 10:14 PM
How is being there top scorer last season "not doing it"?



I've never heard anyone praise him for anything he's done in any of those games. He made a woeful tackle on Ballack on Saturday, I think he generally looks out of place and unless I'm mistaken he was a central figure in the two worst sunderland performances. The FA Cup 3rd round loss to some lower league club and the 7-0 drubbing Everton handed them.

Keane praises him all the time. His third start of the season so lets give him time. He actually looks really good imo, very skilful, tough in the tackle and good in the air. All he needs is some goals. He also played a central figure in Sunderland's draw with Birmingham and win at home to Wigan. Hes a good player, give him time. What do you expect for 500,000€ anyway.

tetsujin1979
17/03/2008, 10:21 PM
He made a woeful tackle on Ballack on Saturday,So woeful, he didn't get booked for it. Didn't you have the same opinion about a good tackle made by Stephen Kelly against Brazil?

unless I'm mistaken he was a central figure in the two worst sunderland performances. The FA Cup 3rd round loss to some lower league club and the 7-0 drubbing Everton handed them.You are. Sunderland went out of the FA Cup to Wigan, who are a Premiership club. O'Donovan didn't play in the 7-1 loss to Everton, he was an unused substitute

finnpark
17/03/2008, 10:33 PM
Which he didn't get booked for
You are. Sunderland went out of the FA Cup to Wigan, who are a Premiership club. O'Donovan didn't play in the 7-1 loss to Everton, he was an unused substitute


I think that hes mixing O'Donovan up with Paul McShane :D

Ciaran, this is Roy:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42640000/jpg/_42640713_dungannon300.jpg