The squads

[eirebhoy]

And he was supposed to be excellent on Saturday.

[Stuttgart88]

World Class acc to BBC

[eirebhoy]

World Class acc to BBC
Warnock and Allerdyce both used the phrase "world class" too. :)

Warnock: "There were two world class saves from Paddy Kenny, especially the second."

Allerdyce: "We also missed more chances then we scored and Paddy Kenny made two world class saves, but having gone 2-0 up we should not have relinquished the lead."

He's having an excellent season tbh.

[Stuttgart88]

Didn't the match commentator say "world class" for his last minute save? Maybe it was "Goals on Sunday" on SKY, but one of BBC or SKY said it!

[Jerry The Saint]

Looks liked Kenny was dropped due to his dire Irish performances rather than the personal reasons excuse that Staunton gave which sounded like a load of balls anyway. That's according to Neil Warnock.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=428445&CPID=219&clid=116&lid=3&title=Boss+angry+at+Kenny+snub

That's outrageous! I suspect that Kenny's injury between the Cyprus and Czech games may also have been a convenient excuse for Staunton to drop our only available goalkeeper playing in the EPL.

But drawing attention to his marital difficulties and implying that he wasn't able to travel, when his manager is saying that he was always available and eager to play, is a really low blow. Stan himself has recently gone through a marriage break-up, should we expect him to be incapable of doing his job as well... oh hang on a minute. :p

[Paddy Garcia]

SHEFFIELD UNITED manager Neil Warnock has slammed Steve Staunton's decision not to select Paddy Kenny for the Irish squad.

Staunton cited 'personal difficulties' as his reason for leaving Kenny out of the squad to face San Marino in a Euro 2008 qualifier at Lansdowne Road on Wednesday.

http://www.unison.ie/sportsdesk/stories.php3?ca=12&si=1723633

After Kenny's display in Saturday's 2-2 Premiership draw with Bolton, Warnock said: "We have seen two world-class saves by somebody who cannot get into the Ireland squad."

In referring to Staunton's explanation, Warnock added: "I don't think the decision was viable. When they told him I think they said things to him about his personal problems that he didn't believe. He would rather be playing. He wants to go, of course he does.

"If anything happens to Shay Given then there is nobody better than Paddy Kenny."

Entirely agree Jerry. It is some feat that Stan has been able to uncur the wrath of both Warnock and Moyes in such a short space of time since his appointment, both for unbelievably poor decision. Must be some kind of record - I can barely remember it happening in the past to this extent with any other manager. Losing credibility with every game.

If this continues, players in their right mind will question the value, or the risk, of playing for Staunton.

One thing is for sure, we will need Kenny before he needs us.

[livehead1]

If Kenny had declared for England he would be in their squad at the moment, yet he's behind Henderson and Colgan in ours. It simply does not make sense and is the latest in a set of confusing and bewildering decisions by our inexperienced, highly paid manager.

[youngirish]

If Kenny had declared for England he would be in their squad at the moment, yet he's behind Henderson and Colgan in ours. It simply does not make sense and is the latest in a set of confusing and bewildering decisions by our inexperienced, highly paid manager.
He was absolute sh*t against both the Dutch and the Cypriots so I'm happy for one to see him dropped. Maybe it'll serve as a warning to the other perennial underachievers. Only his form for Ireland should be considered. If Staunton followed the same pattern with all his players we'd long have since seen the back of JOS and KK.

Henderson looked far better against the Czech's than Kenny had looked in the previous two games so he deserves to retain his place in the squad. As for Colgan I'd chuck him out and replace him with Supple or Logan.

[Soper]

Given would have had a difficult time against Cyprus and Holland with the sh1t that passed for an Ireland team in those matches.

[livehead1]

He was absolute sh*t against both the Dutch and the Cypriots so I'm happy for one to see him dropped. Maybe it'll serve as a warning to the other perennial underachievers. Only his form for Ireland should be considered. If Staunton followed the same pattern with all his players we'd long have since seen the back of JOS and KK.

Henderson looked far better against the Czech's than Kenny had looked in the previous two games so he deserves to retain his place in the squad. As for Colgan I'd chuck him out and replace him with Supple or Logan.

jaysus!!! your post is riddled with contradiction. You cite that you are pleased to see him dropped as he has made errors in previous games. Then you go on to say that its a warning for under achievers. However, you then undo all this good work my mentioning the names of 2 of our many underachievers. Consistant under achievers such as john o'shea.

So what do you want?? Kenny back in, or would as you said this 'warning' to become policy and we get rid of the under achievers. So out goes, O'Brien, Harte, Carr, Ireland, Kilbane, Morrison, O'Shea, Duff, Keane and the countless others who have failed to play to the best of their capabilities over the last 18 months for ireland.

Make your mind up

[youngirish]

jaysus!!! your post is riddled with contradiction. You cite that you are pleased to see him dropped as he has made errors in previous games. Then you go on to say that its a warning for under achievers. However, you then undo all this good work my mentioning the names of 2 of our many underachievers. Consistant under achievers such as john o'shea.

So what do you want?? Kenny back in, or would as you said this 'warning' to become policy and we get rid of the under achievers. So out goes, O'Brien, Harte, Carr, Ireland, Kilbane, Morrison, O'Shea, Duff, Keane and the countless others who have failed to play to the best of their capabilities over the last 18 months for ireland.

Make your mind up
Don't understand your point you seem to have seen contradiction where there was none. I made it clear that I'm happy Kenny was dropped due to his desperately bad performances. I expanded on this by saying that it's a pity Staunton also hadn't applied this logic to the likes of Kilbane and O'Shea (another player constantly selected for the team because of his club form - he has been terrible for Ireland). So obviously I think they should also be given the bullet.

I wouldn't include Keane, Duff, Ireland, Carr, Harte or Morrison in the same bracket as JOS but in the case of Morrison and Carr they are not required anymore anyway IMO as we can replace both with younger, potentially better talent so drop them if they continue to underperform.

If Staunton and Kerr had more balls and made more decisions like the omission of Kenny over the years we wouldn't have as many of our senior players showing up for games for a stroll about. Instead of being content with knowing they have a secure place in the team they might actually try to do something to merit their inclusion. Competition for selection might actually give some of these tosse*s the kick up the ar*e they've needed for some time now.

So instead of moaning about fat Kenny being left out moan about the fact that Staunton might have been onto something but stopped short of omitting a few of the other members of the 'not good enough, must try harder' brigade.

[RiffRaff]

I think Kenny has been made a scapegoat but i'm more baffled by what Henderson has achieved in his career to now be our no.2 goalkeeper. Besides Kenny, Supple, Logan and Colgan are playing at a higher level and Joe Murphy and Roche as a similar level in England, and thats not mentioning Irish based keepers. Can Staunton justify his selection because he used to be a team mate? I think Henderson's lack of experience could be a disaster if he has to throw him into a big away game.
I was also wondering why Staunton often mentions Alan Lee's merits, but i'm guessing he would also have been at Aston Villa with Stan - anyone know?

[eirebhoy]

Don't understand your point you seem to have seen contradiction where there was none. I made it clear that I'm happy Kenny was dropped due to his desperately bad performances.
Well I really believe that Kenny wouldn't have let Koller's shot in. Kenny should be our number 2. Why would you describe his performance against Holland as desperate?

[tetsujin1979]

Can Staunton justify his selection because he used to be a team mate? ...... I was also wondering why Staunton often mentions Alan Lee's merits, but i'm guessing he would also have been at Aston Villa with Stan - anyone know?

Isn't one of Stan's assistants a former coach at Aston Villa? Or was the guy I'm thinking of approached and he turned down the position?

[Billsthoughts]

yeah only thing henderson has ever done to justify a place is play for villa. 9 goals in 2 games is a terrible stat for any goalkeeper. he should have been given san marino games to restore his confidance. we might need him again at some stage. I wouldnt be confidant with henderson.

[Qwerty]

I think Kenny has been made a scapegoat but i'm more baffled by what Henderson has achieved in his career to now be our no.2 goalkeeper. Besides Kenny, Supple, Logan and Colgan are playing at a higher level and Joe Murphy and Roche as a similar level in England, and thats not mentioning Irish based keepers. Can Staunton justify his selection because he used to be a team mate? I think Henderson's lack of experience could be a disaster if he has to throw him into a big away game.
I was also wondering why Staunton often mentions Alan Lee's merits, but i'm guessing he would also have been at Aston Villa with Stan - anyone know?

Henderson played with Brighton in the Championship last season and did quite well. Stan had called him up for the Sweden game when he was in the Championship and he has been there since, Stan didn't have that many alternatives - Colgan was League 1, Stack was involved in a criminal case etc.