Munster Junior Cup 2006/07

[allab]

arbitration on the 25th of this month

[limericklad]

arbitration on the 25th of this month
The cup might finish this year so!

[Innishvilla]

arbitration on the 25th of this month

Any predictions as to the outcome???
Where is the arbitration being held???

[backodanet]

just on this, if clonmel do get a favourable result in the arbitration ie a replay i would think pike should play them because clonmels last competitve match was april 22nd (i know they played the 28th but they had the league won)so i reckon pike would take them rather than risk losing out on a semi final place.

[littleman]

Why should the clubs that have done nothing wrong have to suffer the indignity of perhaps havin to play Clonmel. I hope they get chucked out once and for all and the MJC top that with a big fine and a ban from the competition for a few years for their carry on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gaidin]

arbitration on the 25th of this month

When will the outcome of this be known?

[littleman]

Hearing tonight,decision next wed/thur,semi Sunday, final the followin weekend.:ball:

[allab]

Hearing tonight,decision next wed/thur,semi Sunday, final the followin weekend.:ball:

thats if clonmel lose the appeal! which they should!! so you reckon sun 10th for the final??

[the dazzler]

heard there was a replay offered and pike turned it down is this true pikeys?

[Innishvilla]

heard there was a replay offered and pike turned it down is this true pikeys?

Who could offer a replay when the thing is in arbitration?
And unless the ruling from the Munster council had been replay why should Pike take a replay? They did nothing wrong...

[littleman]

The arbitrator will offer nothin on the night except his ear.I know this from past experience myself.At the end he/she wont say who they think is wrong or right.They just hear both sides stories and then spend a few days dwellin on it before they make their decision,next Wed/Thur at the latest.

The semi is penciled in for the 10th at Turners Cross and the final the following Sunday i'd say myself.Maymount voiced their concern that because of the delay in gettin the game played a lot of their players had holidays booked for the last week in June and if they would have reached the final they would not be in position to play.That means the final in the interests of fairness(which Clonmel no nothing about)would be played on the weekend of the 16/17th.

[the only 1]

The arbitrator will offer nothin on the night except his ear.I know this from past experience myself.At the end he/she wont say who they think is wrong or right.They just hear both sides stories and then spend a few days dwellin on it before they make their decision,next Wed/Thur at the latest.

The semi is penciled in for the 10th at Turners Cross and the final the following Sunday i'd say myself.Maymount voiced their concern that because of the delay in gettin the game played a lot of their players had holidays booked for the last week in June and if they would have reached the final they would not be in position to play.That means the final in the interests of fairness(which Clonmel no nothing about)would be played on the weekend of the 16/17th.

just heard clonmel got thru pike are out

[Town Fan]

just heard clonmel got thru pike are out

How true is that? Did you get this from a legitimate source

[the dazzler]

How true is that? Did you get this from a legitimate source

heard this as well pike turned down a replay fair play to pike if clonmel are playing on there a joke goin through illegally

[gaidin]

heard this as well pike turned down a replay fair play to pike if clonmel are playing on there a joke goin through illegally

IF this true, it is a disgrace and it would be great if Balla and Maymount also pulled out (Not going to happen, I know). There is no way Clonmel should be left back into the competition.

Also IF clonmel are back in the competition, can the ex limerick players now play for balla in the final?

[allab]

IF this true, it is a disgrace and it would be great if Balla and Maymount also pulled out (Not going to happen, I know). There is no way Clonmel should be left back into the competition.

Also IF clonmel are back in the competition, can the ex limerick players now play for balla in the final?

this is deff only a rumour.. the clubs are still awaiting the decision

[tipp man]

No decision out yet. This is all rubbish.

[abbeyvale]

No decision out yet. This is all rubbish.


Any news on this yet lads??

[Town Fan]

Any news on this yet lads??

Friend of mine just rang me. He works with Town PRO Maurice Walsh and he told him that it was all over for Town. The arbitrator upheld the FAI ruling. He also told him that McKeever is quitting as manager and that some of the senior players are leaving as well because of this. They feel badly let down by the club. If this is the case, Walsh and a few more should do the decent thing and resign. They aren't fit enough to run the club and their actions have brought the great name of this club into disrepute.
I don't know any of them personally but they have done a bad job. I have heard Maurice Walsh a few times on Tipp Fm and whilst he is a very good sports analyst, maybe he should stick to that rather than f**king up Clonmel Town. I never heard of him until a few years ago, is he a true Town man and does he really care. I know it is not all his fault but if he and T Scully have any respect for themselves and the club, they should walk away

[MitreSize5]

i dont know if they're appeal was thrown out of not but if it was it was the biggest waste of 5K I have ever come across

[Goals4fun]

i dont know if they're appeal was thrown out of not but if it was it was the biggest waste of 5K I have ever come across

totally agree. maybe the whole thing was an oversight but to keep going and going has put a bit of a dampner on the compretition.

[Closing Time]

Friend of mine just rang me. He works with Town PRO Maurice Walsh and he told him that it was all over for Town. The arbitrator upheld the FAI ruling. He also told him that McKeever is quitting as manager and that some of the senior players are leaving as well because of this. They feel badly let down by the club. If this is the case, Walsh and a few more should do the decent thing and resign. They aren't fit enough to run the club and their actions have brought the great name of this club into disrepute.
I don't know any of them personally but they have done a bad job. I have heard Maurice Walsh a few times on Tipp Fm and whilst he is a very good sports analyst, maybe he should stick to that rather than f**king up Clonmel Town. I never heard of him until a few years ago, is he a true Town man and does he really care. I know it is not all his fault but if he and T Scully have any respect for themselves and the club, they should walk away

I think you are a bit hard. Mistakes are made on and off the pitch. Are you telling me that their are loads of people willing to take up these positions in the club, if so may be they should step aside. As for palyers leaving the club because of this issue then they are ones not real Clonmel Town and not the person you mentioned above, you are better off with out them. The 5k spent on this case shows how much the committee respects the management & players and were prepared to go all the way to see if they could reverse the unreverseable (sorry about the spelling)

[widow]

any definate news on this yet? Should have the result today at the latest.

[Town Fan]

I think you are a bit hard. Mistakes are made on and off the pitch. Are you telling me that their are loads of people willing to take up these positions in the club, if so may be they should step aside. As for palyers leaving the club because of this issue then they are ones not real Clonmel Town and not the person you mentioned above, you are better off with out them. The 5k spent on this case shows how much the committee respects the management & players and were prepared to go all the way to see if they could reverse the unreverseable (sorry about the spelling)

I agree with you in realtion to the players but I still believe that these two gentlemen,and in particular Walsh should leave the club and have nothing more to do with it. They are both inept.
What has Maurice Walsh done for Clonmel Town? He is in the club about ten years and what has he to show for his work, the club been disgraced by been thrown out of the MJC!!. If that is not grounds for resignation I don't know what is

[C.T.F.C]

I agree with you in realtion to the players but I still believe that these two gentlemen,and in particular Walsh should leave the club and have nothing more to do with it. They are both inept.
What has Maurice Walsh done for Clonmel Town? He is in the club about ten years and what has he to show for his work, the club been disgraced by been thrown out of the MJC!!. If that is not grounds for resignation I don't know what is

Feel free to seek nomination at the upcoming AGM for the position then??????
Please stop displaying your ignorance so publicly. Firstly the guys name is Muiris not Maurice. Secondly, anyone who knows anything about Town knows that over the past ten years he has put trogan work into promoting the club. Anybody who puts the time and effort into voluntarily running a football club deserves praise, not a public slagging off. As for your previous post Charlie Mckeever will be manager next year and whilst some players will leave they will be replaced by others. Such is life at a football club.

[Super Rovers]

ye are finally out of the competition.

what a waste of money and time.

get it right ye finally got what ye deserved.

[Town Fan]

ye are finally out of the competition.

what a waste of money and time.

get it right ye finally got what ye deserved.

Is that official?

[zizu's head]

ye are finally out of the competition.

what a waste of money and time.

get it right ye finally got what ye deserved.

Alright, let's put an end to the slagging off!
Clonmel Town made a right ****-up and they've been punished accordingly!
Let's just hope that the competition can be finished now! :)

[leather]

good too hear that justice prevailled.. just hope the rest of the competition is as entertaining...

[macca]

Hi guys can anybody say for definate what the decision of the arbitration s is,there is alot of hear say going on .I was under the impression that wednesday or thursday the latest.It must not be as clear cut of decision as some might think?????

[tipp man]

I feel I have to defend the Clonmel Town PRO. He did not pick the team that played against Pike. His job was and is to promote the activities of CTFC at all levels from Schoolboy up to the Junior team and I think he does a really good job at that. Decisions are arrived at by a committee and are arrived at in a democratic way. I would doubt if the PRO of CTFC supported every decision made by the Town Committee during this debacle but he defended his club at every turn and for that he was doing what he was asked to do....in the interests of the club. He does not run the club nor does he pick the junior team. Hence he is totally blameless in the course of action that CTFC chose to follow during this process. What he is responsible for is promoting the club and getting as much publicity and funding for them as possible.

It is in no-one's interest in looking for a scapegoat. Volunteers are not that plentiful in any club. CTFC were entitled to and got due process. In my opinion the correct decision was arrived at by the arbitrator but any club has the right to appeal any ruling and CTFC's actions and appeals, though misguided, were part of a process and they were entitled to use any fair process that was open to them.

To finish, the rules were broken by CTFC (clearly) and they are out of the competition. However, the delays in arriving at the final decision are unacceptable. The process of appeals and arbitration is lengthy and cumbersome. But any club has the right to defend their position within the appeals/arbitration process. Can we stop directing spleen at individuals who only have the interest of their club at heart.

[zizu's head]

I feel I have to defend the Clonmel Town PRO. He did not pick the team that played against Pike. His job was and is to promote the activities of CTFC at all levels from Schoolboy up to the Junior team and I think he does a really good job at that. Decisions are arrived at by a committee and are arrived at in a democratic way. I would doubt if the PRO of CTFC supported every decision made by the Town Committee during this debacle but he defended his club at every turn and for that he was doing what he was asked to do....in the interests of the club. He does not run the club nor does he pick the junior team. Hence he is totally blameless in the course of action that CTFC chose to follow during this process. What he is responsible for is promoting the club and getting as much publicity and funding for them as possible.

It is in no-one's interest in looking for a scapegoat. Volunteers are not that plentiful in any club. CTFC were entitled to and got due process. In my opinion the correct decision was arrived at by the arbitrator but any club has the right to appeal any ruling and CTFC's actions and appeals, though misguided, were part of a process and they were entitled to use any fair process that was open to them.

To finish, the rules were broken by CTFC (clearly) and they are out of the competition. However, the delays in arriving at the final decision are unacceptable. The process of appeals and arbitration is lengthy and cumbersome. But any club has the right to defend their position within the appeals/arbitration process. Can we stop directing spleen at individuals who only have the interest of their club at heart.

I'm close to tears after such a heart-felt plea!! :D:D (Joking)
Good post

[green&white]

I am glad to hear that the Munster Cup will be finished out now , this is the most important aspect of this situation as a suspension of the competion could have done irrepairable damage.
Who is to blame is for Clonmel Town to sort out ,but as was already pointed out they were entitled to due process.
In my opinion it has to be applauded that the rule book was upheld by arbitration.The place to change is at the AGM of MJL

[macca]

Lads the arbitration have not made there decision yet ,people are only still guessing .None of the clubs involved have been notified yet ,I was talking to one of the clubs secrectary s yesterday and he said he has heard nothing yet.As it stands the semi is provisionally booked for 10th ,and the final the following week either the fri 15th or on sun the 17th depending on if its pike or not.With the long weekend i suppose it will be tommorow or so?????

[allab]

anybody know the decision yet??

[Goals4fun]

nothing today so it will be at earliest tomorrow. they can hardly expect the semi for sat or sun at this much notice? but then again....

[widow]

any developments in this saga? Is it true that the semi will go ahead this saturday night if Pike get through?

[the only 1]

any developments in this saga? Is it true that the semi will go ahead this saturday night if Pike get through?

clonmel are gone semi on at 8 saturday in turners cross

[allab]

clonmel are gone semi on at 8 saturday in turners cross

is this definate??

[the only 1]

is this definate??

wudnt write it otherwise:mad:

[allab]

wudnt write it otherwise:mad:

like the way you wrote on the last page that it was a disgrace that pike were out and clonmel were through????????????????

[the only 1]

like the way you wrote on the last page that it was a disgrace that pike were out and clonmel were through????????????????

why you so worried? do you think the pike lads will beat ye in it:eek:

[silvercircle]

clonmel are gone semi on at 8 saturday in turners cross

Pike V May will be played in Cobh on Saturday at 07:30 that has been confirmed 100%

[leather]

C'mon pike and lets make it an all limk final...

[backodanet]

Pike V May will be played in Cobh on Saturday at 07:30 that has been confirmed 100%

finally.......... thank F@*K for that

[allab]

why you so worried? do you think the pike lads will beat ye in it:eek:

never said anythin like that just wanted to know it was definate this time! and pike have to win there semi first u seem to be forgetting about maymount!!

[the dazzler]

never said anythin like that just wanted to know it was definate this time! and pike have to win there semi first u seem to be forgetting about maymount!!

dont think they will win it four of pikes players on holidays plus no sniffer+mc,garry playing gaa

[macca]

I reckon Pike will beat Maymount by about 2 or 3 handy even with those players missing.Corbally should have beat them when they played.Looks like it should be an all Limerick final.

[widow]

best of luck to pike tomorrow night.

[allab]

limerick MJC final.. pike won 2-0...