Limerick Divisions 3B/4A/4B 2006/07

[Jock MIB]

Found out my 1b game against St Pats is off tomorrow, bit upset was looking forward to being the most sober player on the field :D

[3 Heroes]

Found out my 1b game against St Pats is off tomorrow, bit upset was looking forward to being the most sober player on the field :D

Easy to tell you're not Irish;)

[scoobysham]

coonagh have been deducted points and the player in question the coonagh A goalkeeper has been given a 5 match ban...... lay off FAIRKOP.... as far as i know he is correct..... anyone that needs the name of player in question pm me......

[3 Heroes]

coonagh have been deducted points and the player in question the coonagh A goalkeeper has been given a 5 match ban...... lay off FAIRKOP.... as far as i know he is correct..... anyone that needs the name of player in question pm me......
Not about the outrageous accusations that any A player(s) played for Coonagh Bs EVER

[Jock MIB]

coonagh have been deducted points and the player in question the coonagh A goalkeeper has been given a 5 match ban...... lay off FAIRKOP.... as far as i know he is correct..... anyone that needs the name of player in question pm me......


And all this came about because some team's 11 players couldn't beat another teams alleged 10 B players....:D

[scoobysham]

ya was just talking to coonagh b player last night and he said jimbob was illegal and they got deducted points and he got a 5 match ban.... dont know the ins and outs of everything..... just the punishment.....

[booster 03]

looks like coonagh for the drop so seeing they've lost their keeper.... delighted!!!!!!

[greenandwhite]

ya was just talking to coonagh b player last night and he said jimbob was illegal and they got deducted points and he got a 5 match ban.... dont know the ins and outs of everything..... just the punishment.....

How can the club have a player suspended for that long with no ldmc committee in place the 6 that were put in were only in to keep soccer going till the new committee was put in, but they went and appointed a new ot manager and went about making decisions on who gets internatonal tickets an absolut joke they were not supposed to meet without the mfa but went and had their meetings anyway without the mfa

[Fairkop]

coonagh have been deducted points and the player in question the coonagh A goalkeeper has been given a 5 match ban...... lay off FAIRKOP.... as far as i know he is correct..... anyone that needs the name of player in question pm me......

Come on 3 heroes, where are you now.Take off those green and white sunglasses and let that sink into your arrogant head.
:cool:

[larrywhite]

coonagh have been deducted points and the player in question the coonagh A goalkeeper has been given a 5 match ban...... lay off FAIRKOP.... as far as i know he is correct..... anyone that needs the name of player in question pm me......

Well you are both wrong.

The player suspended is the B keeper. The A team still have 2 signed keepers.

He didnt get 5 matches. He got 3 months.

I dont need to PM you but maybe you should get your facts right before posting here. All you have to do is ask Morgan...the 2 are good mates.

Can I also suggest that we leave this discussion alone from now on. There are others on here who are getting ****ed off with reading about this. Yes a player was sent off and suspended, Coonagh played him in error in a game they won 4-1, Caherconlish were awarded the points, Caherconlish are now top by 5 points. Hooray.

[Side Cutter]

Well you are both wrong.

The player suspended is the B keeper. The A team still have 2 signed keepers.

He didnt get 5 matches. He got 3 months.

I dont need to PM you but maybe you should get your facts right before posting here. All you have to do is ask Morgan...the 2 are good mates.

Can I also suggest that we leave this discussion alone from now on. There are others on here who are getting ****ed off with reading about this. Yes a player was sent off and suspended, Coonagh played him in error in a game they won 4-1, Caherconlish were awarded the points, Caherconlish are now top by 5 points. Hooray.

Excuse me but caherconlish are 8 points clear.

No i dont want to leave this alone.Too many coonagh lads came on here and
made a lot of people out to be liars(including the postman).How was this error made? The same rules apply to every team.Now why would ye be an exception?? Ye knew well what ye were doing:ball:

[larrywhite]

I presume ye won at the weekend so...hard to know with no website up and running.

Well first of all apologies to everyone else for this.

I still stand by my statements that anyone who says we play A players is a liar. And Fairkop is the biggest one. I have asked him to name the A players playing for the B team and he still hasnt mentioned one. The keeper suspended in all this is a B player. The A team had one of their own keepers in goal on Sunday. If we have A players playing for the B team, then they must be signed B. If they are signed B, then they are not eligible for the 1A cup. If they are not eligible for the 1A cup, I presume they are not going to have a team for their divisional cup game. So who will be the 13 or 14 lining out for the A team when they play in their cup? Beats me....

As for the poor ole postie...I didnt say anything about him, we received the letter from the LDMC on Thursday last. Six days after Caherconlish received theirs. There wasnt even a date on the letter and it wasnt sent registered post. I blame the muppet that is the interim secretary. If he cant even do a letter properly then he shouldnt be there. The tables were on last wednesdays paper showing the new tables before we had even received the letter.

As for the player in question...he was sent off in a league match and played the following two games, the second of which was against Caherconlish. We only found out afterwards that the FAI rule regarding automatic one match suspensions was adopted into the LDMC rulebook at the last AGM. We were expecting the same as last season when a suspension and fine would be sent out in the post. We got it wrong and have paid for it. There is no way we would have played him had we known he was suspended and jeopardise a league title. The fact that it did happen is now a serious matter within the club and will have repurcussions at our AGM.

The player himself got a 3 month suspension for the red card so he effectively misses the rest of the season.

[scoobysham]

well the keeper in question has played against us twice for the A's and any time i have watched a coonagh A game he has been in goals...... could be awful coincidence but he seems to be a regular for coonagh A's........

[larrywhite]

Like I said...just ask Morgan. I think he has played 3 times for the A team. He did play against ye alright at least once and maybe twice but he has played a max of 3 games.

[smellyfeet]

There's somfin very fishy going on at the Coonagh Club from all these posts, I said there's sumfin very fishy.

[kingofkillteely]

Well said Larry. The truth is out at last and while we are outing people, Fairkop we know you work in a pet shop and all of the Coonagh lads will be buying our Goldfishes elsewhwere. Closure at last Aidan, dont you think.

[smellyfeet]

Well said Larry. The truth is out at last and while we are outing people, Fairkop we know you work in a pet shop and all of the Coonagh lads will be buying our Goldfishes elsewhwere. Closure at last Aidan, dont you think.

I can tell you that you are so very wrong with the above post cause i work with fairkop and we don't work in a pet shop.There is a few dirty animals tho.

[Jock MIB]

ok Fairkop and Side Cutter, what was your point again cause you have change it upteen times on this thread,

this is what i have picked up so far

1. Coonagh beat Caherconlish 4 - 1

2. Caherconlish Lodge complaint

3. Caherconlish complaint gets upheld and are awarded 3 points

am i correct so far.

4. Fairkop and Side cutter accuse Coonagh of playing an A team player for B team

5. Coonagh players call you liars

6. you call them liars

7. they call you liars again

8. and so on and on and on and on

End result

Caherconlish gets 3 points and Coonagh B player gets suspended not A player a B player

So what was i talking about again i'm so confused now

[larrywhite]

See what you are up against Jock. :rolleyes:

This was the very first post on all this shoite and it was made by Fairkop in the 1A thread of all places:


If coonagh kept their players just for div. 1a matches instead of
illegally using them down in div. 3b trying to win a handy trophy
they might stay up.

None of the accusations he has made have been backed up. He hasnt named one A player that has played for the B team. I said a few weeks ago that I would apologise on here if he named just one A player that has played for our B team. So far nothing.

So...if himself and sidecutter and whoever else feel they can sall us cheats then I am going to keep calling them liars.

[Side Cutter]

See what you are up against Jock. :rolleyes:

This was the very first post on all this shoite and it was made by Fairkop in the 1A thread of all places:



None of the accusations he has made have been backed up. He hasnt named one A player that has played for the B team. I said a few weeks ago that I would apologise on here if he named just one A player that has played for our B team. So far nothing.

So...if himself and sidecutter and whoever else feel they can sall us cheats then I am going to keep calling them liars.

Look i was only having a laugh about using a players for b matches.I was being serious about the suspended player.Everything has been cleared up as far as im concerned.Was only winding ye up lads.....

[larrywhite]

What was the score on Sunday sidecutter? Ye have them in the cup also I think.

To be honest I think one or two guys are dragging it out just for a laugh but its ****ing other guys off on here. There are other clubs in divisions 3b/4a/4b.

[Side Cutter]

What was the score on Sunday sidecutter? Ye have them in the cup also I think.

To be honest I think one or two guys are dragging it out just for a laugh but its ****ing other guys off on here. There are other clubs in divisions 3b/4a/4b.

Won 5 - 0 have them in the cup aswell.....

[ShelsLimerick]

Sorry to hijack the politics thread but fixtures for this weekend:

3B

Murroe Vs Parkville
10:30 Murroe, P O'Brien

Moyross Vs St Pauls
10:30 Moyross, J Clancy

Herbertstown Vs Coonagh A/B :D
2:00 Herbertstown, P O'Brien

Summerville Rvs C Vs Caherconlish
2:00 Portland, J Clancy

4A

Cappamore Vs Shelbourne B
10:30 Cappamore, J Carey

Knockainey Vs St Patricks B
10:30 Knockainey, A Keogh

4B

St Patricks C Vs Shelbourne C
No time or ref yet

Prospect Priory Vs Holycross
2:00 Cals Park, J Carey

Croom Utd Vs St Pauls
2:00 Croom, M Kavanagh

Dromore Celtic Vs Parkville
2:00 Bawnmore, M Costello

[kingofkillteely]

A Reaction me thinks, and he got one well done

Nice one Jock. Lets twin Coonagh with Holycross:) We could exchange players. Although on second thoughts Fairkop and his friends might appeal:)

[ShelsLimerick]

For anyone interested here is an updated 4B table.

Updated 4B table (http://ldmcdivision4b.leaguerepublic.com/)

[3 Heroes]

Sorry to hijack the politics thread but fixtures for this weekend:

3B


Herbertstown Vs Coonagh A/B :D
2:00 Herbertstown, P O'Brien



Just as an aside, the Coonagh A team have become known as the Coonagh reserves by the B team for the past couple of seasons:p , and NO it's not that A players play for the B team which I've already gone through ad nauseum but because they are/were better than the A team

[larrywhite]

Cheers for those ShelsLimerick. It really is a pain in the arse not having the website anymore. The fixtures arent even on the the Star on Tuesdays either. Ahh its good to have the bad ole days back.:rolleyes:

[Jock MIB]

Nice one Jock. Lets twin Coonagh with Holycross:) We could exchange players. Although on second thoughts Fairkop and his friends might appeal:)

ok will we trade your twenty a year striker for anyone you like from holycross even our keeper if you want :D (sorry bad joke forgive me coonagh lads )

[3 Heroes]

ok will we trade your twenty a year striker for anyone you like from holycross even our keeper if you want :D (sorry bad joke forgive me coonagh lads )

:o :rolleyes:

[larrywhite]

ok will we trade your twenty a year striker for anyone you like from holycross even our keeper if you want :D (sorry bad joke forgive me coonagh lads )

Done. :D

Four nil nils will do us. :D

[the 12 th man]

Can we leave behind the cheats/liars bullsh1t and talk about the games.
There's no point getting personal, I'll just bin the posts and if it continues I will
make sure the people who continue with it get banned from this forum.

[the 12 th man]

Were good at outing people in Coonagh, just ask So tell Fairkop to stick to the 1a thread where he belongs. Dodgy Keeper!:)


People have a right to remain anonymous,please respect that right.

[250notout]

I have been involved in Limerick Junior Football for 16 years now and played in almost every division. Stumbled across this thread by mistake. Must say I have seen Coonagh A & B play this season, and the A team is not a patch on their B team. Was at the Coonagh Caherconlish game and Coonagh destroyed them. I only recently heard Caherconlish were awarded the points, due to a technicality about a previous game where Coonagh had won 7-1!! Typical LDMC, these guys are like bouncers, one night a week they get a chance to feel important to the detriment of everyone else. At home I bet their wives wear the trousers and probably beat them around the place as well. LDMC is their weekly fix of power. None of these guys have played football before. Caherconlish should do the decent thing and withdraw their appeal, they were outclassed in every position for 90 minutes and now look to win the league on a technicality, bad sportsmanship. Anyone that was in Coonagh that morning know who the real league champions are.

[the 12 th man]

Next rubbish poster on this thread will get a ban from the forum.Last time I'm saying it.

[see's it]

whose going to win the league how many games are left?

[Jock MIB]

Why is couple of my posts deleted, what did i say that was interpreted as abusive, stupid, threating or whatever

i haven't mentioned names, i have given my opinion which i think this forum is all about

just curious thats all

[the 12 th man]

Why is couple of my posts deleted, what did i say that was interpreted as abusive, stupid, threating or whatever

i haven't mentioned names, i have given my opinion which i think this forum is all about

just curious thats all


Your posts contained quotes from other posts that were deleted for being garbage.It would have left your posts meaningless if they were left in place without the "edited" bits.

[Jock MIB]

Your posts contained quotes from other posts that were deleted for being garbage.It would have left your post meaningless if they were left in place without the "edited" bits.

thanks :)

[Raúl Madrid]

On the whole Coonagh/Caherconlish dispute, it does seem a bit harsh that Caherconlish should be awarded the three points based on what seems to have been, at worst, an administrative error. There is a Champions League precedent to suggest that a replayed game between the sides would have been more appropriate. Back in 1992/93, Leeds Utd played Stuttgart for a place in the group stages. Although Leeds lost the tie on away goals over two legs, Stuttgart exceeded their quota of foreign players (pre-Bosman era rules) in the second leg. Leeds Utd appealed, and UEFA ordered that the tie be decided by playing a one-off game at a neutral venue (the Nou Camp), which I think Leeds won 2-0. That seems a fairer solution to me than what the LDMC seem to have done in this case ....

[the 12 th man]

On the whole Coonagh/Caherconlish dispute, it does seem a bit harsh that Caherconlish should be awarded the three points based on what seems to have been, at worst, an administrative error. There is a Champions League precedent to suggest that a replayed game between the sides would have been more appropriate. Back in 1992/93, Leeds Utd played Stuttgart for a place in the group stages. Although Leeds lost the tie on away goals over two legs, Stuttgart exceeded their quota of foreign players (pre-Bosman era rules) in the second leg. Leeds Utd appealed, and UEFA ordered that the tie be decided by playing a one-off game at a neutral venue (the Nou Camp), which I think Leeds won 2-0. That seems a fairer solution to me than what the LDMC seem to have done in this case ....



Can we move on from this,there's no point going over and over it again.

[Side Cutter]

I presume ye won at the weekend so...hard to know with no website up and running.

As for the player in question...he was sent off in a league match and played the following two games, the second of which was against Caherconlish. We only found out afterwards that the FAI rule regarding automatic one match suspensions was adopted into the LDMC rulebook at the last AGM. We were expecting the same as last season when a suspension and fine would be sent out in the post. We got it wrong and have paid for it. There is no way we would have played him had we known he was suspended and jeopardise a league title. The fact that it did happen is now a serious matter within the club and will have repurcussions at our AGM.

The player himself got a 3 month suspension for the red card so he effectively misses the rest of the season.


Just one last reply to clear things up here.
The rule regarding players being suspended automatically for one match
has been in place for last year and maybe the year before that as well,
any club can tell you this rule.

[KevB76]

Can we move on from this,there's no point going over and over it again.
In fairness Raúl Madrid has made an interesting point quite different to the pages and pages of utter tripe which preceded it !

[Raúl Madrid]

Just one last reply to clear things up here.
The rule regarding players being suspended automatically for one match
has been in place for last year and maybe the year before that as well,
any club can tell you this rule.

That's fair enough Side Cutter - not knowing the rules is no defence.

However, from reading back through the posts, it seems that the player in question should have served his suspension in the match immediately prior to the Coonagh v Caherconlish game. Apparently, Coonagh won this game 7-1 v Parkville.

Surely, therefore, it is PARKVILLE who should be awarded the three points from THAT fixture, and the result of the Coonagh v Caherconlish game should stand. In other words, the beneficiaries of Coonagh's error should be the team against whom the player SHOULD have served his suspension. It should be irrelevant to Caherconlish whether an opposing player does or does not observe a suspension in a game not involving their club.

I work in the law myself and, in terms of appeals, precedents and just general fair play, these issues need to be looked at carefully. Coonagh would have excellent grounds for appealing this decision in my view (not that I would generally encourage such an approach in an amateur game)

[Side Cutter]

That's fair enough Side Cutter - not knowing the rules is no defence.

However, from reading back through the posts, it seems that the player in question should have served his suspension in the match immediately prior to the Coonagh v Caherconlish game. Apparently, Coonagh won this game 7-1 v Parkville.

Surely, therefore, it is PARKVILLE who should be awarded the three points from THAT fixture, and the result of the Coonagh v Caherconlish game should stand. In other words, the beneficiaries of Coonagh's error should be the team against whom the player SHOULD have served his suspension. It should be irrelevant to Caherconlish whether an opposing player does or does not observe a suspension in a game not involving their club.

I work in the law myself and, in terms of appeals, precedents and just general fair play, these issues need to be looked at carefully. Coonagh would have excellent grounds for appealing this decision in my view (not that I would generally encourage such an approach in an amateur game)

I see where you are coming from, but parkville never knew of this and did not appeal.
But as he played against caherconlish he was still illegal as he had not served his one match automatic ban and that is why the ldmc adjudicated on those grounds.

[larrywhite]

Just to clarify this, the FAI rule regarding automatic one match suspension was only adopted into the LDMC rule book at the AGM last summer so this is the first season it applies to local leagues. The LDMC told me so.

Now can we pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssse let this alone nefore the thread is closed and/or someone is banned.

[Raúl Madrid]

I see where you are coming from, but parkville never knew of this and did not appeal.
But as he played against caherconlish he was still illegal as he had not served his one match automatic ban and that is why the ldmc adjudicated on those grounds.

That's obviously how the LDMC must have viewed it alright. Either way, it is a pity. I assume Caherconlish will now go on to win a title that will, to some extent, seem tarnished in the view of some local observers. And then I am sure Coonagh will feel disgusted to miss out on a championship based on a procedural/administrative error. T

hat's why I brought up the Leeds/Stuttgart precedent earlier. I thought that playing a one-off match on neutral ground would be a better solution. It would penalise Coonagh for their mistake in not observing the suspension, and would give Caherconlish another bite of the cherry in terms of wiping out a 4-1 loss. Equally, if Caherconlish came through such a fixture, who could honestly say they weren't true champions?

At amateur level, it's not about money, its about glory, so a tarnished championship just cheapens both sides' efforts since last August, which is a pity, because they are obviously both good sides for that level of play ...

[Raúl Madrid]

Just to clarify this, the FAI rule regarding automatic one match suspension was only adopted into the LDMC rule book at the AGM last summer so this is the first season it applies to local leagues. The LDMC told me so.

Now can we pleeeeeeaaaaaasssssse let this alone nefore the thread is closed and/or someone is banned.

Okay Larry, case closed. Just wanted to make my own suggestion from reading all of your posts ...

[ShelsLimerick]

Division 4A

Cappamore 5 Shelbourne B 1

Division 4B

St Patricks C 1 Shelbourne C 3


Any other results from the lower divisions?

[Side Cutter]

Division 4A

Cappamore 5 Shelbourne B 1

Division 4B

St Patricks C 1 Shelbourne C 3

Any other results from the lower divisions?


Div. 3b herbertstown b 1 coonagh b(the real champs) 0
game over.

[kingofkillteely]

Congatulations Caherconlish. You are deserving champions. Now for the double i suppose.