Official Seedings Thread

[eirebhoy]

I thought I'd open a thread to keep track of our seeding throughout the campaign. For those that don't know, the seeding is calculated by a country's average points per game over the last 2 campaigns. We were seeded 25th of 52 country for the current Euro qualifiers. We started the current seedings in 22nd place (ie. We had the 22nd best points/game ratio from the last campaign only).

This is the ranking of teams based on their seedings for the next world cup qualifiers before a Euro qualifier was played:


A B
1 Netherlands 10 Romania
2 England 11 Ukraine
3 Portugal 12 France
4 Sweden 13 Spain
5 Croatia 14 Turkey
6 Poland 15 Russia
7 Italy 16 Slovakia
8 Czech Republic 17 Denmark
9 Serbia 18 Switzerland

C D
19 Norway 28 Finland
20 Israel 29 Scotland
21 Greece 30 Latvia
22 Ireland 31 Belgium
23 Bosnia 32 Slovenia
24 Bulgaria 33 Albania
25 Austria 34 Lithuania
26 Estonia 35 Belarus
27 Hungary 36 Northern Ireland

E F
37 Georgia 46 Azerbaijan
38 Wales 47 Malta
39 Macedonia 48 Faroe Islands
40 Liechtenstein 49 Kazakhstan
41 Armenia 50 Luxembourg
42 Moldova 51 San Marino
43 Andorra
44 Iceland
45 Cyprus

N/A Germany
N/A Montenegro

And the updated seedings after the first set of games:


World Cup 2006 Euro 2008
Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points
1 A Germany 2 6 3.0
2 A Holland 12 32 2 6 2.714
3 A England 10 25 2 6 2.583
4 A Sweden 10 24 2 6 2.5
5 A Portugal 12 30 1 1 2.385
6 A Czech 12 27 2 6 2.357
7 A Croatia 10 24 1 1 2.273
8 A Serbia 10 22 2 4 2.167
9 A France 10 20 2 6 2.167
10 B Ukraine 12 25 1 3 2.154
11 B Poland 10 24 2 1 2.083
12 B Romania 12 25 2 4 2.071
13 B Italy 10 23 2 1 2.0
14 B Turkey 12 23 1 3 2.0
15 B Norway 10 18 2 6 2.0
16 B Israel 10 18 2 6 2.0
17 B Denmark 12 22 1 3 1.923
18 B Spain 10 20 2 3 1.917
19 C Slovak. 12 23 2 3 1.857
20 C Russia 12 23 1 1 1.846
21 C Greece 12 21 1 3 1.846
22 C Switz. 10 18 1.8
23 C Bosnia 10 16 2 3 1.583
24 C Bulgar. 10 15 2 4 1.583
25 C Scotlnd 10 13 2 6 1.583
26 C Ireland 10 17 1 0 1.545
27 C Austria 10 15 1.5
28 D Finland 12 16 2 4 1.428
29 D Hungary 10 14 2 3 1.417
30 D Belgium 10 12 2 4 1.333
31 D Estonia 12 17 2 0 1.214
32 D Latvia 12 15 1 0 1.154
33 D Sloven. 10 12 1 0 1.091
34 D Albania 12 13 2 1 1.0
35 D N.Irel 10 9 2 3 1.0
36 D Lithua. 10 10 2 1 0.917
37 E Belarus 10 10 2 1 0.917
38 E Georgia 12 10 3 3 0.867
39 E Macedo. 12 9 2 3 0.857
40 E Wales 10 8 1 0 0.727
41 E Iceland 10 4 2 3 0.583
42 E Liecht. 12 8 2 0 0.571
43 E Armenia 12 7 1 0 0.538
44 E Moldova 10 5 2 0 0.417
45 E Cyprus 10 4 1 0 0.364
46 F Andorra 12 5 2 0 0.357
47 F Azerbai. 10 3 2 1 0.333
48 F Malta 10 3 2 0 0.25
49 F Kazakh. 12 1 2 2 0.214
50 F Faroes 10 1 2 0 0.083
51 F Luxemb. 12 0 1 0 0
52 F San M. 10 0 1 0 0
53 F Montenegro ---


I'll keep this thread updated for every set of games.

[pineapple stu]

Bump.

Any update on this, eirebhoy? Hungary losing to Malta will have helped us, but it looks like we're on the brink of entering Pot E at the moment, although two wins against San Marino would be a boost.

[blobbyblob]

Assuming that nobody else moved since then, we are now in Pot E with 1.38

[eirebhoy]

Latest Update:


World Cup 2006 Euro 2008
Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points
1 A Germany 3 9 3
2 A Holland 12 32 4 10 2.625
3 A Sweden 10 24 4 12 2.571
4 A Croatia 10 24 3 7 2.385
5 A Czech 12 27 4 10 2.313
6 A England 10 25 4 7 2.286
7 A Serbia 10 22 4 10 2.286
8 B Portugal 12 30 3 4 2.267
9 B Poland 10 24 4 7 2.214
10 B Italy 10 23 4 7 2.143
11 B Romania 12 25 3 7 2.133
12 B France 10 20 4 9 2.071
13 B Ukraine 12 25 3 6 2.067
14 B Turkey 12 23 3 7 2
15 C Greece 12 21 3 9 2
16 C Denmark 12 22 3 7 1.933
17 C Israel 10 18 3 7 1.923
18 C Russia 12 23 3 5 1.867
19 C Norway 10 18 3 6 1.846
20 C Slovak. 12 23 4 6 1.813
21 C Switz. 10 18 1.8
22 D Spain 10 20 3 3 1.769
23 D Bulgar. 10 15 4 8 1.643
24 D Scotlnd 10 13 4 9 1.571
25 D Austria 10 15 1.5
26 D Finland 12 16 4 8 1.5
27 D Bosnia 10 16 4 4 1.429
28 D Ireland 10 17 3 1 1.385
29 E Belgium 10 12 4 7 1.357
30 E Hungary 10 14 4 3 1.214
31 E Latvia 12 15 3 3 1.2
32 E Sloven 10 12 3 3 1.154
33 E N.Irel 10 9 4 7 1.143
34 E Estonia 12 17 3 0 1.133
35 E Lithua. 10 10 3 4 1.077
36 F Belarus 10 10 4 4 1
37 F Macedo. 12 9 4 7 1
38 F Albania 12 13 3 1 0.933
39 F Wales 10 8 3 3 0.846
40 F Georgia 12 10 4 3 0.813
41 F Cyprus 10 4 3 3 0.538
42 F Liecht. 12 8 3 0 0.533
43 Armenia 12 7 3 1 0.533
44 Iceland 10 4 4 3 0.5
45 Malta 10 3 3 3 0.462
46 Moldova 10 5 4 0 0.357
47 Andorra 12 5 4 0 0.313
48 Azerb. 10 3 4 1 0.286
49 Kazakh. 12 1 4 2 0.188
50 Faroes 10 1 4 0 0.0714
51 Luxemb. 12 0 3 0 0
52 San M. 10 0 2 0 0

[McGinty]

nice one eirebhoy, fair dues for keepin this updated!

[Pablo]

christ Belgium have taken some slide

[JamesB]

So have spain

[antrimgreen]

Great work eirebhoy, you have more information here than the UEFA site. Keep up the good work.

[cavan_fan]

Looking at this

Assume you need 1.4 to get into pot D, 1.8 to get into Pot C and 2 to get into Pot B.

I make this that we need 14 points to stay where we are, 23 to go into C and 27 to get into B.

We have 1 point, assume 6 vs San marino

From the remaining 7 matches we need another 7 to stay where we are, should do this (Wales, Cyprus home wins, draw vs Wales away or Slovaks at home)

16 to go up a level. Hard to see us doing this would need wins v Wales home and away, Cyprus home, Slovaks home, draws v germany at home and Czechs away and probably need to beat Slovaks away.

20 to go into Pot B. This means winnign all remaining games (would be 21 points)

Pot C is someting to aim for.

By the way this is based on 7 groups for the next campaign. I assume Europe will have 13 places, isnt 6 a possibility?

[pineapple stu]

There won't be six groups unless they plan on having 9 teams in some groups. There'll be seven at least, possibly eight.

You can't really tell anything from this as yet, as it's thrown out of synch by the fact that some teams have played poor teams and some have played better teams. We should be up to 1.6 by February after beating San Marino twice, with very few other games on. But it's still good to keep track.

For what it's worth, this is on Bert Kassies' site (http://www.kassiesa.com/uefaforum/view.php?topic=20060907053110.xml) too.

[Fubar]

any way u cud post this seeding chart to stan every so often? he could use it for his "building for the future" plan...

[Traps Cat]

i cant belive that we are reduced to trying to get into a f***ing pot rather than the Tournament!!

[shakermaker1982]

i cant belive that we are reduced to trying to get into a f***ing pot rather than the Tournament!!

that did make me laugh:D

[Bungle]

If we can finish this campaign well and get ourselves into the third pot of teams then that wouldn't be too bad.

San Marino 0 Ireland 2
Ireland 3 San Marino 0
Irealnd 2 Wales 1
Wales 0 Ireland 0
Slovakia 0 Ireland 0
Ireland 1 Slovakia 0
Czech Republic 2 Ireland 1
Ireland 2 Cyprus 0
Ireland 0 Germany 1.

Would leave us with 18 points.

[eirebhoy]

18 points from this group would leave us with a 1.59 average so we'd probably need more than that to get into Pot C.

[Bungle]

For us to do it then we'll have to do something special like win in Slovakia or maybe draw/win with the Germans and the Czechs.We'll also need to hope that there will be more results like Hungary and Malta,and teams like Russia/Ukraine/Bulgaria losing a good few points.

It seems that the next seedings group for the World Cup could be majorly messed up with countries like Spain in there potentially...on paper it could be harder than the second pot.

[Bungle]

taking 6 points off wales is do able.

[ramondo]

We should be up to 1.6 by February after beating San Marino twice...

:eek: What's their record in qualifying campaigns?

[pineapple stu]

:confused:

[RogerMilla]

very good thread and please keep updated , vital , to know which pot we are in for africa 2010

[ramondo]

:confused:


San Marino. When was the last time they didn't lose a qualifier?

Hearing someone say "well, at least we're guaranteed 6 points against San Marino" seems, on current form, presumptuous.:eek:

[eirebhoy]

Cyprus will destroy San Marino in their home stadium. :) Cyprus are about as strong as an Eircom league XI. An EL XI could give any team a decent game at home as Cyprus usually do. San Marino's best player plays in Serie C1 and they're the worst team in Europe. The rest of their players play in San Marino I think which I guess is probably equivalent to a decent Sunday league over here. A draw against them in San Marino would be a lot more embarassing than the 5-2 defeat to Cyprus. :)

Just to put their league into perspective.

The Champions of San Marino lost 7-1 on aggregate to APOEL of Cyprus this season in the 1st round of the UEFA cup. APOEL finished 3rd in the Cypriot league.
The previous Champions lost 8-0 on agg to NK Domzale of Slovenia.
The year before that they lost 9-1 to FK Zeljeznicar of Bosnia.
And before that they lost 9-0 to a Russian team.

[cavan_fan]

I can't think of another international team that I would be as confident we would beat. Obviously anything could happen but I would have thought if we played the 100 times we would win 99. This isnt being disrespectful, it's being realistic.

[galwayhoop]

San Marino V Leitrim would be a fairer match than SM V ROI.... see below:

San Marino:
Population (2006 est.): 29,251
Largest city: Serravalle: 8,700
Currency: Euro
Source: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107939.html

Leitrim:
Population (2006 Census): 28,837
Largest Town: Carrick-on-Shannon: 8,192 (includes rural area)
Currency: Euro
Source: http://www.cso.ie/census/documents/2006PreliminaryReport.pdf

Now I think than the National Team should be able to beat a Leitrim Select XI.... shouldn't we????

[livehead1]

San Marino V Leitrim would be a fairer match than SM V ROI.... see below:

San Marino:
Population (2006 est.): 29,251
Largest city: Serravalle: 8,700
Currency: Euro
Source: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107939.html

Leitrim:
Population (2006 Census): 28,837
Largest Town: Carrick-on-Shannon: 8,192 (includes rural area)
Currency: Euro
Source: http://www.cso.ie/census/documents/2006PreliminaryReport.pdf

Now I think than the National Team should be able to beat a Leitrim Select XI.... shouldn't we????


For the first time in our history we are now ranked below the north, see bbc:

N Ireland ranked above Republic

Lawrie Sanchez has guided Northern Ireland into the top 50
Northern Ireland have overtaken the Republic of Ireland in the Fifa rankings for the first time.
After beating Latvia in their most recent Euro 2008 qualifier, Northern Ireland have risen 13 places to 45 while the Republic slip to 49.

It is Northern Ireland's highest ranking since 1995 and the Republic's lowest for eight years.

Steve Staunton's Republic suffered a 5-2 defeat in Cyprus before holding the Czech Republic to a draw at home.

Under Sanchez, Northern Ireland have risen from 124th place in the rankings.

However, their progress did not stop the former Wimbledon midfielder considering his position in September after receiving criticism he felt his team did not deserve.

Sanchez recently stated that he would like to get Northern Ireland higher than the Republic during his time in charge.

[cavan_fan]

Although the food in San Marino may be better than in Leitrim

[antrimgreen]

Totally depressing them ranking.

[pineapple stu]

San Marino. When was the last time they didn't lose a qualifier?

Hearing someone say "well, at least we're guaranteed 6 points against San Marino" seems, on current form, presumptuous.:eek:
I said we should beat them, and we should. I didn't say we will beat them.

Stastically, a Lansdowne Road crowd XI should be as good as San Marino. I wouldn't see it as presumptuous that the best 11 players from the crowd would lose to the 11 players they're watching represent their country!! :p

[EalingGreen]

taking 6 points off wales is do able.

Having seen Wales in recent years, I would have to agree. That said, their problem is inconsistency, often stemming from not having all their top players available, plus Toshack's policy of giving youth its head.
But considering how poor the ROI have been recently, the Welsh may be equally justified in thinking they could take 6 points.
Frankly, any of 0, 1, 2, 4 or 6 points could be the ROI's haul from the two Welsh games, with my money being on two points (and one or four dead-heating for the "podium places").

[Paddy Garcia]

Sanchez recently stated that he would like to get Northern Ireland higher than the Republic during his time in charge.

He might still get fired for a lack of ambition.

[galwayhoop]

Although the food in San Marino may be better than in Leitrim


but nothing in comparison to the cuisine de cavan i'm sure:D

[eirebhoy]

World Cup 2006 Euro 2008
Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points
1 A Holland 12 32 4 10 2.625
2 A Sweden 10 24 4 12 2.571
3 A Germany 4 10 2.5
4 A Croatia 10 24 4 10 2.429
5 A Czech 12 27 4 10 2.313
6 A England 10 25 4 7 2.286
7 A Serbia 10 22 4 10 2.286
8 B Portugl 12 30 3 4 2.267
9 B Poland 10 24 4 7 2.214
10 B Italy 10 23 4 7 2.143
11 B Romania 12 25 3 7 2.133
12 B Turkey 12 23 3 9 2.133
13 B France 10 20 4 9 2.071
14 B Ukraine 12 25 3 6 2.066
15 C Greece 12 21 3 9 2.000
16 C Russia 12 23 4 8 1.937
17 C Denmark 12 22 3 7 1.933
18 C Norway 10 18 3 6 1.846
19 C Slovak. 12 23 4 6 1.813
20 C Switz. 10 18 1.800
21 C Israel 10 18 4 7 1.786
22 D Spain 10 20 3 3 1.770
23 D Bulgar. 10 15 4 8 1.649
24 D Ireland 10 17 5 7 1.600
25 D Finland 12 16 5 11 1.588
26 D Scotlnd 10 13 4 9 1.571
27 D Austria 10 15 1.500
28 D Bosnia 10 16 4 4 1.429
29 E Belgium 10 12 5 7 1.267
30 E Hungary 10 14 4 3 1.214
31 E Latvia 12 15 3 3 1.200
32 E Sloven. 10 12 3 3 1.154
33 E N.Irel 10 9 4 7 1.143
34 E Estonia 12 17 3 0 1.133
35 E Lithua. 10 10 3 4 1.077
36 F Belarus 10 10 4 4 1.000
37 F Maced. 12 9 5 7 0.941
38 F Albania 12 13 3 1 0.933
39 F Wales 10 8 3 3 0.846
40 F Georgia 12 10 4 3 0.813
41 F Cyprus 10 4 4 4 0.571
42 F Liecht. 12 8 3 0 0.533
43 Armenia 12 7 4 1 0.500
44 Iceland 10 4 4 3 0.500
45 Malta 10 3 3 3 0.462
46 Moldova 10 5 4 1 0.429
47 Andorra 12 5 4 0 0.313
48 Azerb. 10 3 4 1 0.286
49 Kazakh. 12 1 5 2 0.176
50 Faroes 10 1 4 0 0.071
51 Luxem. 12 0 3 0 0
52 San M. 10 0 4 0 0

[gustavo]

Some more spin for Delaney to fire out
"Hey we might be managed by a man out of his depth ,
clueless tactically ,
lacking in belief,
ran incompetently
but when all is said and done ,WE ARE BETTER THAN SCOTLAND SO THERE!"

[shakermaker1982]

still in bloody pot D!

[eirebhoy]

So are Spain. :eek:

[neville neville]

Sorry for not knowing this but do friendlys count towards seeding, considering the are 2 winable games in US in the summer. although maybe it would be a good thing if it didnt count as we'd get spanked on current form. Hopefully we'll have a new manager by then

[geysir]

This is the real thing, friendlies don't count.
I like the way we are written as Ireland.
Proper order, none of this ROI shíte.

Belgium are on a "bit" of a downer.

[Jerry The Saint]

2 winable games in US in the summer.

Who are we playing, Djibouti and Guam :confused:

[clearskies]

This is the real thing, friendlies don't count.
I like the way we are written as Ireland.
Proper order, none of this ROI shíte.

Belgium are on a "bit" of a downer.

Do they still call Ireland Eire on BBC and UTV???

[Bungle]

Does anybody have the link to that upto date seedings page? It would be good to see know where we stand.

If this group is about damage control and we're looking at getting into the third seeds batch for the World Cup, then there appears to have been some good results last night i.e Belgium being hammered, Norway losing at home to Bosnia (although they must be a rival of ours, as they are fourth seeds also), Estonia losing to Russia and Denmark losing in Spain.

To be comfortable of nicking into the third seeds batch, we'll have to take 12 points of the Welsh and Slovaks, though I think 9 points should be enough.

[Lionel Ritchie]

To be comfortable of nicking into the third seeds batch, we'll have to take 12 points of the Welsh and Slovaks, though I think 9 points should be enough. ...and off in the background the ghostly voice of Debbie Gibson could be heard singing "Only in My Dreams"
;)

[Bungle]

Its changed a little since October with our wonderful wins against San Marino and Wales but hopefully the latest coefficients will be out soon.

National Team Ranking
Including all results up to Wednesday 11 October 2006

Rank Rank Country WC 2006 Qual EC 2008 Qual Total
2005 Pl Pt Ave Pl Pt Ave Pl Pt Ave

1 (7) Germany - - - 3 9 3.000 3 9 3.000
2 (1) Netherlands 12 32 2.667 4 10 2.500 16 42 2.625
3 (6) Sweden 10 24 2.400 4 12 3.000 14 36 2.571
4 (8) Croatia 10 24 2.400 3 7 2.333 13 31 2.385
5 (4) Czech Rep 12 27 2.250 4 10 2.500 16 37 2.313
6 (15) Serbia 10 22 2.200 4 10 2.500 14 32 2.286
7 (2) England 10 25 2.500 4 7 1.750 14 32 2.286
8 (3) Portugal 12 30 2.500 3 4 1.333 15 34 2.267
9 (11) Poland 10 24 2.400 4 7 1.750 14 31 2.214
10 (9) Italy 10 23 2.300 4 7 1.750 14 30 2.143
11 (10) Turkey 12 23 1.917 3 9 3.000 15 32 2.133
12 (13) Romania 12 25 2.083 3 7 2.333 15 32 2.133
13 (5) France 10 20 2.000 4 9 2.250 14 29 2.071
14 (21) Ukraine 12 25 2.083 3 6 2.000 15 31 2.067
15 (14) Greece 12 21 1.750 3 9 3.000 15 30 2.000
16 (17) Denmark 12 22 1.833 3 7 2.333 15 29 1.933
17 (27) Israel 10 18 1.800 3 7 2.333 13 25 1.923
18 (16) Russia 12 23 1.917 3 5 1.667 15 28 1.867
19 (19) Norway 10 18 1.800 3 6 2.000 13 24 1.846
20 (22) Slovakia 12 23 1.917 4 6 1.500 16 29 1.813
21 (18) Switzerland 10 18 1.800 - - - 10 18 1.800
22 (12) Spain 10 20 2.000 3 3 1.000 13 23 1.769
23 (20) Bulgaria 10 15 1.500 4 8 2.000 14 23 1.643
24 (28) Scotland 10 13 1.300 4 9 2.250 14 22 1.571
25 (32) Finland 12 16 1.333 4 8 2.000 16 24 1.500
26 (31) Austria 10 15 1.500 - - - 10 15 1.500
27 (23) Bosnia-Herz 10 16 1.600 4 4 1.000 14 20 1.429
28 (24) Rep Ireland 10 17 1.700 3 1 0.333 13 18 1.385
29 (25) Belgium 10 12 1.200 4 7 1.750 14 19 1.357
30 (30) Hungary 10 14 1.400 4 3 0.750 14 17 1.214
31 (26) Latvia 12 15 1.250 3 3 1.000 15 18 1.200
32 (29) Slovenia 10 12 1.200 3 3 1.000 13 15 1.154
33 (42) N Ireland 10 9 0.900 4 7 1.750 14 16 1.143
34 (33) Estonia 12 17 1.417 3 0 0.000 15 17 1.133
35 (35) Lithuania 10 10 1.000 3 4 1.333 13 14 1.077
36 (39) Macedonia 12 9 0.750 4 7 1.750 16 16 1.000
37 (40) Belarus 10 10 1.000 4 4 1.000 14 14 1.000
38 (36) Albania 12 13 1.083 3 1 0.333 15 14 0.933
39 (34) Wales 10 8 0.800 3 3 1.000 13 11 0.846
40 (38) Georgia 12 10 0.833 4 3 0.750 16 13 0.813
41 (43) Cyprus 10 4 0.400 3 3 1.000 13 7 0.538
42 (41) Armenia 12 7 0.583 3 1 0.333 15 8 0.533
43 (45) Liechtenstein 12 8 0.667 3 0 0.000 15 8 0.533
44 (37) Iceland 10 4 0.400 4 3 0.750 14 7 0.500
45 (48) Malta 10 3 0.300 3 3 1.000 13 6 0.462
46 (44) Moldova 10 5 0.500 4 1 0.250 14 6 0.429
47 (47) Andorra 12 5 0.417 4 0 0.000 16 5 0.313
48 (46) Azerbaijan 10 3 0.300 4 1 0.250 14 4 0.286
49 (50) Kazakhstan 12 1 0.083 4 2 0.500 16 3 0.188
50 (49) Faroe Isles 10 1 0.100 4 0 0.000 14 1 0.071
51 (51) San Marino 10 0 0.000 2 0 0.000 12 0 0.000
52 (52) Luxembourg 12 0 0.000 3 0 0.000 15 0 0.000
53 (--) Montenegro - - - - - -

[eirebhoy]

I'd usually leave it until after Wednesday's matches but I'm bored.


World Cup 2006 Euro 2008
Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points
1 A Germany 5 13 2.600
2 A Sweden 10 24 4 12 2.571
3 A Holland 12 32 5 11 2.529
4 A Croatia 10 24 5 13 2.467
5 A Portugl 12 30 5 10 2.352
6 A Poland 10 24 6 13 2.313
7 A England 10 25 5 8 2.200
8 B Turkey 12 23 4 12 2.188
9 B Czech 12 27 5 10 2.176
10 B Italy 10 23 4 7 2.143
11 B Serbia 10 22 5 10 2.133
12 B France 10 20 5 12 2.133
13 B Ukraine 12 25 4 9 2.125
14 B Romania 12 25 4 8 2.063
15 C Russia 12 23 5 11 2.000
16 C Slovak. 12 23 5 9 1.882
17 C Greece 12 21 4 9 1.875
18 C Spain 10 20 4 6 1.857
19 C Denmark 12 22 4 7 1.813
20 C Switz. 10 18 1.800
21 C Israel 10 18 5 8 1.733
22 D Norway 10 18 4 6 1.714
23 D Ireland 10 17 6 10 1.688
24 D Scotlnd 10 13 5 12 1.667
25 D Bulgar. 10 15 4 8 1.643
26 D Finland 12 16 5 11 1.588
27 D Bosnia 10 16 5 7 1.533
28 D Austria 10 15 1.500
29 E N.Irel 10 9 5 10 1.267
30 E Hungary 10 14 4 3 1.214
31 E Latvia 12 15 3 3 1.200
32 E Belgium 10 12 6 7 1.188
33 E Sloven. 10 12 4 4 1.143
34 E Belarus 10 10 5 7 1.133
35 E Estonia 12 17 4 0 1.063
36 F Lithua. 10 10 4 4 1.000
37 F Maced. 12 9 5 7 0.941
38 F Albania 12 13 4 2 0.938
39 F Wales 10 8 4 3 0.786
40 F Georgia 12 10 5 3 0.765
41 F Cyprus 10 4 5 4 0.533
42 F Liecht. 12 8 4 0 0.500
43 Armenia 12 7 4 1 0.500
44 Iceland 10 4 4 3 0.500
45 Malta 10 3 4 4 0.500
46 Moldova 10 5 5 2 0.467
47 Kazakh. 12 1 6 5 0.333
48 Andorra 12 5 4 0 0.313
49 Azerb. 10 3 5 1 0.267
50 Faroes 10 1 5 0 0.067
51 Luxem. 12 0 4 0 0
52 San M. 10 0 4 0 0

[IsMiseSean]

If we finished the campaign in Group D, I'm not going to have too much confidence for the world cup campaign. Look at some of the teams ahead of us :(
Its goin to make things really difficult

[Countyman]

How about this possible group

Germany,Italy,Spain,IRELAND,N.Ireland,Cyprus,San Marino.

Shows how far we have dropped.

[galwayhoop]

How about this possible group

Germany,Italy,Spain,IRELAND,N.Ireland,Cyprus,San Marino.

Shows how far we have dropped.

yeah, the fact i looked at the 2 last seeds and realised that there wasn't even guaranteed 6 points off each anymore :o

[gspain]

If we win on Wednesday and Norway lose in Turkey we would move into the 3rd pot at least for the moment. I think we'd be lucky to maintain a 4th seeding spot after this campaign.

[Bungle]

the thing is if we take 10 points off all our games against Slovakia and Wales (I know optimism is reigning supreme here and beat cyprus then we may nick into third seeds fairly comfortably. This would put us ahead of Slovakia, while teams like Ukraine, Denmark, Israel, Norway and Russia are in very difficult groups and will drop alot of points. Hopefully the Scots will get pummelled in their remaining games because they're going to be a real rival for third seeds.

[The Legend]

the thing is if we take 10 points off all our games against Slovakia and Wales (I know optimism is reigning supreme here and beat cyprus then we may nick into third seeds fairly comfortably. This would put us ahead of Slovakia, while teams like Ukraine, Denmark, Israel, Norway and Russia are in very difficult groups and will drop alot of points. Hopefully the Scots will get pummelled in their remaining games because they're going to be a real rival for third seeds.

Christ, i remember the good old days, when we used to talk about going to World Cups... now we are looking at 3rd place qualifying seedings as our cup winning trophy moment!

[Bungle]

True but if we can make it into the third batch of seeds and get a favourable group then maybe we can think about qualification.........in fact start saving now because we always qualify for the most expensive places....Fifa's decision to rotate world cups is really Blatter's gift to Irish football!!!

With the talent of the young lads and a decent manager and a good draw i.e Poland and Sweden as first two seeds then I'd be very hopeful. here's hoping!!