Official Seedings Thread

[Hibernian]

looks like we will get the 3rd pot just. I just hope we dont get a tough group like Scotland did last time out

[RogerMilla]

looks like we will get the 3rd pot just. I just hope we dont get a tough group like Scotland did last time out

there is a seedings thread lads , you can check out the latest there.

and bring on a tough group ! it's time we stood up !

[galwayhoop]

when is the draw???

[Naitch]

Friday, not sure what time. I dont think it makes much of a difference as to what teams we get we always seem to make life hard for ourselves regardless of who we are playing eg, Switzerland & Russia group when we were the top seeds

[shakermaker1982]

I've heard it's Sunday now.....

[RogerMilla]

middle of the day sunday lads , deffo live on sky , nothing surer

[Hibernian]

Draw on Sunday I presume it will be on Sky Sports or BBC.

Dont think it will be shown live on RTE

[shakermaker1982]

watch ING GER LAND go and get drawn with Scotland, Austria, San Marino and Cyprus!!!

[galwayhoop]

just a thought but our next manager may hinge massively on who we are drawn against! i mean if we get a group like the scots got last time out then most established bosses wouldn't touch us with a barge pole!

or am i being over negative??

[Noelys Guitar]

just a thought but our next manager may hinge massively on who we are drawn against! i mean if we get a group like the scots got last time out then most established bosses wouldn't touch us with a barge pole!

or am i being over negative??

Did you see the Italians trying to defend from Scotlands corner kicks? Germans beaten 3-0 at home by the Czechs a few weeks back. Holland winning 1-0 at home against Luxemborg. Portugal must win their last game to qualify. Lets not worry about who we draw as there is no way of telling how good or bad a eam is going to be until we actually get to play them. Sometimes the "big" names have to rebuild. Somtimes the so called minnows or mid-ranking teams find 2 or 3 great players and step up a gear. So lets just worry about ourselves. Get the right manager and stop leaking goals. Look at the groups we qualified from for WC90/94 and 02.

[galwayhoop]

Look at the groups we qualified from for WC90/94 and 02.

and those we didn't for the last 3 campaigns!

all i'm saying is it may make the job seem less attractive (and ultimately damaging to a managers stock) if the draw on paper seems like a mamouth task. i am fully aware of the pitfalls and unexpected turns of fortune that effect various teams.

[RogerMilla]

and those we didn't for the last 3 campaigns!

all i'm saying is it may make the job seem less attractive (and ultimately damaging to a managers stock) if the draw on paper seems like a mamouth task. i am fully aware of the pitfalls and unexpected turns of fortune that effect various teams.

if he doesnt have the cojones to take on the big boys we dont want him anyway.

[Hibernian]

If there is to be one thing that I would hope Ireland do not manage is that they dont get many eastern european countries in there group as bad as some of the away games have been against the teams from western europe or eastern europen record is pretty much a shambles.

[beautifulrock]

In fairness, the Swedes had just been awarded a penalty so you'd expect they'd have won 4-3.

good point Stutts I had forgotten about that.

[Metrostars]

I hope we get a really tough group this time. Getting easy group the last 3 campaigns(04 EC, 06 WC, 08 EC) certainly didnt work out well.

[Stuttgart88]

I hope we get Northern Ireland. There might even be some mutual talk about football.

[RogerMilla]

I hope we get Northern Ireland. There might even be some mutual talk about football.

i thought we are both third seeds and so we cannot meet.

[Stuttgart88]

fair enough, was meant more in jest.

[RogerMilla]

fair enough, was meant more in jest.

I would like to avoid them and all british teams just now while we attempt to get back on our feet.

[DmanDmythDledge]

looks like we will get the 3rd pot just. I just hope we dont get a tough group like Scotland did last time out
Don't know where you got barely from.
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=816866&postcount=17


I hope we get a really tough group this time. Getting easy group the last 3 campaigns(04 EC, 06 WC, 08 EC) certainly didnt work out well.
06 was far from easy. France, Switzerland and Israel were amongst the toughest teams we could have faced.

[eekers]

am i right in calculating that playing those two pointless friendlies in america, and only drawing with wales on saturday has cost us in the region of 150 points and a place amongst the second seeds?

744 points as it is
896 points in my idealised scenario above

[EalingGreen]

Obviously it is entirely unofficial, and the author doesn't claim complete reliability, but can this guy be correct in his calculation of the latest Seeding positions?

As you may imagine, I wouldn't be too disappointed to have them confirmed ;)

http://lucrurineinteresante.blogspot.com/2007/11/2010-wcq-quick-look-at-pots.html

Anyone able to offer an opinion? Eirebhoy?

[RogerMilla]

Obviously it is entirely unofficial, and the author doesn't claim complete reliability, but can this guy be correct in his calculation of the latest Seeding positions?

As you may imagine, I wouldn't be too disappointed to have them confirmed ;)

http://lucrurineinteresante.blogspot.com/2007/11/2010-wcq-quick-look-at-pots.html

Anyone able to offer an opinion? Eirebhoy?

Interesting and i would even say well deserved for NI , but i would now deffo fancy them as a second seed opponent!! Bring on the nordies !

[antrimgreen]

Would like to see Eirebhoy update his chart myself.

[Stuttgart88]

Bring on the nordies !Not only should there be points at stake, but maybe also an honourable duel to determine player eligibility. Sovereignty even? That'd add spice to a last game of the campaign dead-rubber.

[RogerMilla]

Not only should there be points at stake, but maybe also an honourable duel to determine player eligibility. Sovereignty even? That'd add spice to a last game of the campaign dead-rubber.

could put a few counties on the table maybe ? bit like a game of RISK

[eekers]

i'll have a group of

Greece
N.Ireland
Ireland
Macedonia
Liechtenstein
San Marino

:D

[antrimgreen]

I'll have a slice of that also eekers!! :)

[Wolfie]

i'll have a group of

Greece
N.Ireland
Ireland
Macedonia
Liechtenstein
San Marino

:D

Practically all of those teams bar Greece have caused us problems in the quite recent past.

N.Ireland - Almost stopped us qualifying for USA 94 in the infamous game in Belfast in 1993. Drew in Dublin in 1995.

Macedonia - Last gasp goal stopped our automatic qualification for Euro 2000

Liechenstein - A disasterous draw in 1995 began a major slump in form which ultimately resulted in missing out on Euro 96.

San Marino - Fresh in everyones memory.

[EalingGreen]

Practically all of those teams bar Greece have caused us problems in the quite recent past.

N.Ireland - Almost stopped us qualifying for USA 94 in the infamous game in Belfast in 1993. Drew in Dublin in 1995.

Macedonia - Last gasp goal stopped our automatic qualification for Euro 2000

Liechenstein - A disasterous draw in 1995 began a major slump in form which ultimately resulted in missing out on Euro 96.

San Marino - Fresh in everyones memory.

And won in Dublin on the last occasions we met, courtesy of a "Thirty Yard Tackle" from outside the box by Super Danny Griffin.

Funny how yis all seem to forget that one ;)

P.S. I keep saying it, but do not make the mistake of underestimating Liechtenstein; their present team is their best ever, with Super Mario Frick their "David Healy of the Alps"!

[Cymro]

Obviously it is entirely unofficial, and the author doesn't claim complete reliability, but can this guy be correct in his calculation of the latest Seeding positions?

As you may imagine, I wouldn't be too disappointed to have them confirmed ;)

http://lucrurineinteresante.blogspot.com/2007/11/2010-wcq-quick-look-at-pots.html

Anyone able to offer an opinion? Eirebhoy?

There's no way Sweden can be in the third pot, surely. I'd question their reliability based on that alone.

[eirebhoy]

Just for the curiosity I put an excel together. I come out with 740 for Ireland after the Wales match. 3 points different to that site. EalingGreen, if you're as sad as me you could do the same for Northern Ireland and work out their ranking. It's only a couple of days wait anyway.

Anyway, here's the file for anyone that wants to see how the points are calculated:
http://www.4shared.com/file/29998773/baeb0a75/FIFA_rankings.html

[eekers]

Just for the curiosity I put an excel together. I come out with 740 for Ireland after the Wales match. 3 points different to that site. EalingGreen, if you're as sad as me you could do the same for Northern Ireland and work out their ranking. It's only a couple of days wait anyway.

Anyway, here's the file for anyone that wants to see how the points are calculated:
http://www.4shared.com/file/29998773/baeb0a75/FIFA_rankings.html

you missed out 'regional strength' from your calculations

[eirebhoy]

you missed out 'regional strength' from your calculations
Well spotted. With that change now we're on 736.

Updated xls:
http://www.4shared.com/file/30010743/1a3f2e1d/FIFA_rankings.html

[antrimgreen]

Overall Rank European Rank Country Change
3 1 Italy 0
4 2 Spain 2
5 3 Germany 0
6 4 Czech Republic 3
7 5 France -3
8 6 Portugal 0
9 7 Netherlands -2
10 8 Croatia 0
11 9 Greece 3
12 10 England -1
13 11 Romania -1
14 12 Scotland -1
16 13 Turkey 12
18 14 Bulgaria 16
22 15 Russia -6
23 16 Poland -3
24 17 Sweden 0
26 18 Israel 11
28 19 Norway -7
29 20 Ukraine -7
30 21 Serbia -3
31 22 Denmark -2
32 23 Northern Ireland 4
35 24 Republic of Ireland -3
36 25 Finland 8
44 26 Switzerland -3
49 27 Belgium 5
50 28 Slovakia 0
51 29 Bosnia-Herzegovina -3
52 30 Hungary -4
53 31 Moldova 8
58 32 Wales 0
59 33 FYR Macedonia 16
60 34 Belarus 34
61 35 Lithuania 29
65 36 Cyprus -8
77 37 Georgia -6
82 38 Albania -12
83 39 Slovenia -7
88 40 Latvia -2
89 41 Iceland -10
90 42 Armenia -8
91 43 Austria -3
110 44 Kazakhstan 12
118 45 Azerbaijan -2
123 46 Liechtenstein -4
128 47 Estonia 2
139 48 Malta -2
152 49 Luxembourg -2
172 50 Montenegro -1
174 51 Andorra -1
195 52 Faroe Islands -1
197 53 San Marino -1

[Armando]

England dropped back into 2nd seeds...lost out by 1 coefficient point!
What a disastrous week for them.

...and Liectenstein didn't make it out of the bottom pot afterall.

[eirebhoy]

England dropped back into 2nd seeds...lost out by 1 coefficient point!

Woh. :eek: England had 1113 points, Greece 1114. That's very cruel.

[Cymro]

Woh. :eek: England had 1113 points, Greece 1114. That's very cruel.

I doubt many of us will be crying many tears for them, though :(

[Edgar]

Obviously it is entirely unofficial, and the author doesn't claim complete reliability, but can this guy be correct in his calculation of the latest Seeding positions?

As you may imagine, I wouldn't be too disappointed to have them confirmed

http://lucrurineinteresante.blogspot.com/2007/11/2010-wcq-quick-look-at-pots.html

Anyone able to offer an opinion? Eirebhoy?

I'll say, my blog reached even Ireland :eek:


There's no way Sweden can be in the third pot, surely. I'd question their reliability based on that alone.

I really don't want to brag, but I can't help it. Seems I was right, isn't it? :D