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The Ref
19/09/2006, 3:26 PM
Isnt that Shelbourne team the guts of the Distillery team from last year

It dosen't surprise me that one of there player would stoop to headbutting a player, they are also the masters of spitting at you as well off the ball.

Its a pity you dont suspend the lot of them with val ward as well

This is not the fourm for these remarks

Old keeper
19/09/2006, 11:29 PM
Isnt that Shelbourne team the guts of the Distillery team from last year

It dosen't surprise me that one of there player would stoop to headbutting a player, they are also the masters of spitting at you as well off the ball.

Its a pity you dont suspend the lot of them with val ward as well

I wont mention the team we played!!

Old keeper
19/09/2006, 11:31 PM
Hi Ref

How much room is required between the line and the boundary of the field, to allow a game to go ahead? I know the advertising stands must be a minimum of 1 mtr but is this the same for barriers and walls?

Jock MIB
20/09/2006, 2:05 PM
Hi Ref

How much room is required between the line and the boundary of the field, to allow a game to go ahead? I know the advertising stands must be a minimum of 1 mtr but is this the same for barriers and walls?

and electric fences :) :)

The Ref
20/09/2006, 4:50 PM
Hi Ref

How much room is required between the line and the boundary of the field, to allow a game to go ahead? I know the advertising stands must be a minimum of 1 mtr but is this the same for barriers and walls?

There is nothing in the Laws that state a minimum width between a boundry and the line of the field of play. You are correct regarding the advertising stand must be a minimum of 1m but IMO the safety of players is paramount, if I deem that a boundry (especally a wall) is too close, I won't allow the game to proceed. I have seen a scurry for a line marker minutes before the game was due to commence for this very reason (I was not the ref).

IMO 1m is the minimum I would accept, but if the wall is a high wall (over 3-4ft) I would want it further. There was a ground in Blackrock in Dublin that the pitch was so close to wall, a player couldn't run to take a corner, and the box was 4ft from the sideline (i.e. it didn't make the minimum with of a pitch), I refused to ever referee on that pitch for these very reasons (the referee allocations officer understood my concerns and never put me there).

Does this answer your question?

The Ref

football fan
21/09/2006, 9:32 AM
Hi The Ref,

Just to let you know that at a recent branch meeting, the points raised here were discussed.

My brother has informed me of the following:

1. After all players that have finished the match have taken a penalty, they DO NOT have to come back in the same order.

2. In relation to the goalkeeper handling the back pass. Thats the only offence he commits. You award an indireck free kick. The free kick in Law 12 is a direct free kick if the player denies the opponent a goal scoring opportunity and the offence takes place outside the area.


Their FAI assessor says that your guy should contact the FAI and get this clarified as he is instructing you and your fellow referees incorrectly.

With all this debate amongst referees about the laws, I think I shall remain a fan and let all you guys get on with the job!!

Best of luck for the new season!!

Old keeper
24/09/2006, 10:39 PM
There is nothing in the Laws that state a minimum width between a boundry and the line of the field of play. You are correct regarding the advertising stand must be a minimum of 1m but IMO the safety of players is paramount, if I deem that a boundry (especally a wall) is too close, I won't allow the game to proceed. I have seen a scurry for a line marker minutes before the game was due to commence for this very reason (I was not the ref).

IMO 1m is the minimum I would accept, but if the wall is a high wall (over 3-4ft) I would want it further. There was a ground in Blackrock in Dublin that the pitch was so close to wall, a player couldn't run to take a corner, and the box was 4ft from the sideline (i.e. it didn't make the minimum with of a pitch), I refused to ever referee on that pitch for these very reasons (the referee allocations officer understood my concerns and never put me there).

Does this answer your question?

The Ref

Yep thanks

seand
25/09/2006, 12:28 PM
Here's another interesting question for The Ref, if you don’t mind!

Regarding the "professional foul", Law 12 states that a player is sent off if he " denies an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick”

My issue is with the phrase “moving towards the player’s goal”. It is quite possible that a player could have an “obvious goalscoring opportunity” without moving towards goal.

e.g. A ball is played in to the near post, keeper and striker go for the ball, both fall over and the ball runs across the face of goal. The striker gets up first and goes running across the face of goal (therefore not moving towards goal). Keeper realises striker is going to get there first, so deliberately trips him. This is certainly denying “an obvious goalscoring opportunity” but according to the letter of the law it is not a sending off offence, as the opposing player is not “moving towards the player’s [goalkeeper’s] goal”

What would your interpretation here be?

Jock MIB
25/09/2006, 4:08 PM
here Ref , was watching something on Trans World Sport which didn't put refs in a good light was wondering what ruling this ref was using...

Incident happened in Brazilian League Game and actually the Ref is i think the only lady to be an official referee there (not holding that against her for this decision though). what happened was that Team A had shot on goal and it hit the side netting, while everybody was turning away and heading back up field one of the Ball boys decide to kick the ball into the goal of Team B... you would think then its not a goal but nope the referee gave the goal

if that happened in Limerick League not sure what reaction the ref would get :) :mad: or :confused:

what you think of that decision Ref????

The Ref
25/09/2006, 4:45 PM
Here's another interesting question for The Ref, if you don’t mind!

Regarding the "professional foul", Law 12 states that a player is sent off if he " denies an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick”

My issue is with the phrase “moving towards the player’s goal”. It is quite possible that a player could have an “obvious goalscoring opportunity” without moving towards goal.

e.g. A ball is played in to the near post, keeper and striker go for the ball, both fall over and the ball runs across the face of goal. The striker gets up first and goes running across the face of goal (therefore not moving towards goal). Keeper realises striker is going to get there first, so deliberately trips him. This is certainly denying “an obvious goalscoring opportunity” but according to the letter of the law it is not a sending off offence, as the opposing player is not “moving towards the player’s [goalkeeper’s] goal”

What would your interpretation here be?


Penalty - Red Card, if I thought that I could'nt justify the Red Card by saying that the defender "denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent who was moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick", I could (using your example) justify the Red Card as "Serious foul Play"

The Ref
25/09/2006, 4:47 PM
here Ref , was watching something on Trans World Sport which didn't put refs in a good light was wondering what ruling this ref was using...

Incident happened in Brazilian League Game and actually the Ref is i think the only lady to be an official referee there (not holding that against her for this decision though). what happened was that Team A had shot on goal and it hit the side netting, while everybody was turning away and heading back up field one of the Ball boys decide to kick the ball into the goal of Team B... you would think then its not a goal but nope the referee gave the goal

if that happened in Limerick League not sure what reaction the ref would get :) :mad: or :confused:

what you think of that decision Ref????


Saw it myself, very funny...... but decision was wrong

Soccer Lover
09/10/2006, 7:39 PM
Hey ref,

What happens if a player breaks his leg on the pitch during the match

do you play on or call the game off

The Ref
10/10/2006, 10:36 PM
Hey ref,

What happens if a player breaks his leg on the pitch during the match

do you play on or call the game off

It all depends,

1 How serious the break is

2 How long before the injury get proper medical attention

3 Can the player be safely moved

4 The condition of the remaining players.

Thankfully this doesn't happen too often, twice in my career, both times I have abandoned the game. The second time was because I couldn't continue (both teams were willing to play on) as the player in question was a friend of mine.

I would imagine in most cases in Junior football the referee would abandon the game

The Ref

Interested
15/10/2006, 12:44 AM
It all depends,

1 How serious the break is

2 How long before the injury get proper medical attention

3 Can the player be safely moved

4 The condition of the remaining players.

Thankfully this doesn't happen too often, twice in my career, both times I have abandoned the game. The second time was because I couldn't continue (both teams were willing to play on) as the player in question was a friend of mine.

I would imagine in most cases in Junior football the referee would abandon the game

The Ref

I was unfortunate enough to be playing in a local game where one of the opposition players badly broke his leg in two places, it was out the country so it took the ambulance about 30 minutes or more to get to the pitch. By this time both sets of players had witnessed the pain and agony that the poor chap had to endure before the emergancy services arrived, not to mention that we had lost all interest in playing the game.
The referee for some unknown reason wanted to continue the match after the lad had been removed, both teams refused to continue, to the utter dismay of the ref. Both teams were fined for not completing the fixture due to his report, needless to say any respect that this particular referee had before went out the window.
I was pleased to see your reply to the question as a bit of compassion would not have been lost in my own instance. After all, we all play for enjoyment and believe me, joy was not the feeling on the day.

old git
23/10/2006, 9:36 AM
what is the rules regarding match cards


recent match late into second half sub came on ref asked for his name .. sub struggled to remember had to look up and down match card .. ref then went to manager on sideline and after 1-2 mins sub came on... when we asked to see match card after match referee showed it 16 players had been named ... but number sixteen had been crossed out & subs name written under it ...:confused:

The Ref
23/10/2006, 4:46 PM
what is the rules regarding match cards


recent match late into second half sub came on ref asked for his name .. sub struggled to remember had to look up and down match card .. ref then went to manager on sideline and after 1-2 mins sub came on... when we asked to see match card after match referee showed it 16 players had been named ... but number sixteen had been crossed out & subs name written under it ...:confused:

Law 3 The number of players provides that in all matches, the names of substitutes must be given to the referee prior to the start of the match. Substitutes not so named may not take part in the match.

In reality, in junior football, getting both teams to fill out the match card prior to the match is next to impossible. It is my opinion that once both teams have completed the card and handed it to the referee, no alterations may be made.

It would seem that the crux of the matter here is, did the referee allow a change to be made to the card when the substitution was being made, and if so, who completed the details on the card. If the alteration was made prior to the referee receiving the completed match card by both teams - in my opinion no offence has occurred.

If the alteration was made during the substitution, the referee was derelict in his/her duty. If you have proof you should bring it to the attention of the league.

FYI, if I ask a substitute his name and it does not correspond with a name on the card (lets face it there can be a mistake with players numbers), I will allow him to play, but will furnish a report to the league who can deal with it under their rules. I am under NO obligation to inform the opposition and will not do so.

This is not specifically dealt with by the laws of the game.

old git
23/10/2006, 5:06 PM
Law 3 The number of players provides that in all matches, the names of substitutes must be given to the referee prior to the start of the match. Substitutes not so named may not take part in the match.

In reality, in junior football, getting both teams to fill out the match card prior to the match is next to impossible. It is my opinion that once both teams have completed the card and handed it to the referee, no alterations may be made.

It would seem that the crux of the matter here is, did the referee allow a change to be made to the card when the substitution was being made, and if so, who completed the details on the card. If the alteration was made prior to the referee receiving the completed match card by both teams - in my opinion no offence has occurred.

If the alteration was made during the substitution, the referee was derelict in his/her duty. If you have proof you should bring it to the attention of the league.

FYI, if I ask a substitute his name and it does not correspond with a name on the card (lets face it there can be a mistake with players numbers), I will allow him to play, but will furnish a report to the league who can deal with it under their rules. I am under NO obligation to inform the opposition and will not do so.

This is not specifically dealt with by the laws of the game.

seems referee allowed change to be made upon substitution ,, manager or assistant made the change .. referee then after match walking back to club house said to same person who changed match card i still have an issue with you over this card ..:confused:

The Ref
23/10/2006, 6:18 PM
seems referee allowed change to be made upon substitution ,, manager or assistant made the change .. referee then after match walking back to club house said to same person who changed match card i still have an issue with you over this card ..:confused:

I suggest you write to your league and ask them to look into it. It will then be up to the league to investigate and determine if any wrongdoing has occurred and impose appropriate sanctions if it is upheld that your opposition has breached a rule.

If the referee has an issue with the card, he should submit a report to the league. After that I can not offer any mode advice - sorry

The Ref

shelbourne1904
03/11/2006, 9:26 PM
This not a "Rules of the Game" question but has anyone any info on the following.

With a small pool of referees to cover both junior and schoolboys in a county what proportionate commitment do referees have to give and what priority is applied to each ???

The Ref
06/11/2006, 5:17 PM
This not a "Rules of the Game" question but has anyone any info on the following.

With a small pool of referees to cover both junior and schoolboys in a county what proportionate commitment do referees have to give and what priority is applied to each ???

At the start of every season, referees are asked to declare their availability (Sat morning/Afternoon/Both, Sun Morning/Afternoon/Both. They are then allocated games on their availability/ability and preference. To my knowledge, referees do not have to give commitment to either. All things being equal, the priority is given by the assessor.

Does this answer your question?

Interested
06/11/2006, 5:19 PM
This not a "Rules of the Game" question but has anyone any info on the following.

With a small pool of referees to cover both junior and schoolboys in a county what proportionate commitment do referees have to give and what priority is applied to each ???

I am not sure if this is 100% correct shelbourne but I think that referee's do a seminar every year and have to register with the FAI with regards to their grade, availibility etc.
As most Schoolboy games are played on a Saturday, maybe your referee's are unwilling to give up two days or are unable to give up two days due to work or family commitments.
As for priority, I would think that most referees just officiate at the games they are given by the fixtures secretaries.

The Ref
06/11/2006, 5:33 PM
I am not sure if this is 100% correct shelbourne but I think that referee's do a seminar every year and have to register with the FAI with regards to their grade, availibility etc.
As most Schoolboy games are played on a Saturday, maybe your referee's are unwilling to give up two days or are unable to give up two days due to work or family commitments.
As for priority, I would think that most referees just officiate at the games they are given by the fixtures secretaries.

Not all schoolboys play Sat - The second largest league in Europe NDSL (DDSL is the largest) is largely played on Sunday. Referees from the NDSL quite often officiate at LSL games and vice versa.

Yes referees do a seminar, and register with the FAI, but referees can let it be known if they wish to officiate just junior/schoolboys.

The system in Dublin is different to the rest of the country.

In a lot of areas outside Dublin, the matchs are allocated by the assessor and not the fixtures secretary, in fact this was the case in the schoolboys leagues in the late 80s/early 90s.

Interested
07/11/2006, 12:39 AM
Not all schoolboys play Sat - The second largest league in Europe NDSL (DDSL is the largest) is largely played on Sunday. Referees from the NDSL quite often officiate at LSL games and vice versa.

Yes referees do a seminar, and register with the FAI, but referees can let it be known if they wish to officiate just junior/schoolboys.

The system in Dublin is different to the rest of the country.

In a lot of areas outside Dublin, the matchs are allocated by the assessor and not the fixtures secretary, in fact this was the case in the schoolboys leagues in the late 80s/early 90s.

Granted the Referee numbers in the big smokes like Dublin and Cork can cater for Saturday and Sunday Football, but once you come out into the sticks, where Schoolboy Football is played on a Saturday the numbers are just not there to cater for all grades of football.
It is becoming a big problem for the smaller Leagues as Shelbourne has indicated, where the higher grade referees are not making themselves available for both Saturdays and Sundays.
The point I was trying to get across is that maybe they are unable to give two days of there free time off due to other interests ie FAMILY.

Van The Man
21/11/2006, 3:48 PM
Just a little question for you ref that I came upon over the weekend. The answer might be obvious but have to ask anyway.

In hurricane conditons, which I'm sure everyone had last weekend if playing a game, a keeper kicks out the ball from the ground following a wide, the ball travels into the breeze and comes back in the direction of the keeper...What are the keepers options ? :confused:

The Ref
21/11/2006, 4:58 PM
Just a little question for you ref that I came upon over the weekend. The answer might be obvious but have to ask anyway.

In hurricane conditons, which I'm sure everyone had last weekend if playing a game, a keeper kicks out the ball from the ground following a wide, the ball travels into the breeze and comes back in the direction of the keeper...What are the keepers options ? :confused:


If the ball does not go outside the box - the kick is retaken.

If the ball goes outside the box, if the goalkeeper touches it before another player touches it - an indirect free kick is awarded (if he handles it outside the box its a direct free kick).

If the ball goes outside the box, re enters the box and it goes into the goal - if the goalkeeper and no another player touches the ball - a corner is awarded.

Van The Man
22/11/2006, 8:26 AM
If the ball does not go outside the box - the kick is retaken.

If the ball goes outside the box, if the goalkeeper touches it before another player touches it - an indirect free kick is awarded (if he handles it outside the box its a direct free kick).

If the ball goes outside the box, re enters the box and it goes into the goal - if the goalkeeper and no another player touches the ball - a corner is awarded.

Cheers Ref. was just curious.

Curler
09/01/2007, 3:01 PM
Is it true that the 6 second rule for goalkeepers is gone?

magpies
09/01/2007, 9:17 PM
I have a question concerning jerseys, if the two teams have the same colour kit is it the home team or the away team that has to change?

The Ref
10/01/2007, 7:29 PM
Is it true that the 6 second rule for goalkeepers is gone?

Curler

No, it is still contained in Law 12.

The Ref

The Ref
10/01/2007, 7:34 PM
I have a question concerning jerseys, if the two teams have the same colour kit is it the home team or the away team that has to change?

Magpies,

There is nothing in the Laws of the game to answer this one, however competition rules will nearly always specify, and in my experience, it is usually the home team that has to change.

The Ref

magpies
10/01/2007, 9:43 PM
Yea I thaught the same myself but others were saying that it was the away team who have to change, I always thaught it was the home team... we will just have to see....

the 12 th man
11/01/2007, 4:50 AM
Magpies,

There is nothing in the Laws of the game to answer this one, however competition rules will nearly always specify, and in my experience, it is usually the home team that has to change.

The Ref

Logic would dictate the home team as surely it would be easier for them to secure a change of kit.

The Ref
24/01/2007, 7:39 PM
Folks,

As we have been unsticked, if you want to keep this thread going you will have to keep posting questions.

I will be online most days, and if this falls off the radar, just pm any questions you may have.

The Ref

Shilts
29/01/2007, 2:28 PM
Ref, what's the rule regarding a keeper's black jersey? Some refs insist on the keeper changing, others don't care and some ref's will change their own jersey. Is there a ruling on this?

parkfan
29/01/2007, 3:01 PM
is there any rule regarding ungentlemanly conduct.
yesterday we played the ball off throw in because one of the opposing players was injured. usually there are a couple of scenarios the can be played out. but on this occassion the ball was thrown back to our defender who intended to kick it back to the opposition. however the centre forward attack the full back for the ball and dispossesed him crossed the ball in and scored.

The Ref
29/01/2007, 4:54 PM
Ref, what's the rule regarding a keeper's black jersey? Some refs insist on the keeper changing, others don't care and some ref's will change their own jersey. Is there a ruling on this?

Law 4 states that a goalkeeper must wear a jersey that distinguishes him from other players, the referee and the assistant referee.

The onus is on the goalkeeper to change (the way the law is worded), however I bring 3 jerseys with me to every match to ovoid confusion and only once did I have a clash.

(an interesting point, when I started refereeing, the chief referees inspector told our group that did the referees course that no player is ever allowed to wear black as referees were not permitted to wear any other colours other than black):eek:

The Ref
29/01/2007, 5:14 PM
is there any rule regarding ungentlemanly conduct.
yesterday we played the ball off throw in because one of the opposing players was injured. usually there are a couple of scenarios the can be played out. but on this occassion the ball was thrown back to our defender who intended to kick it back to the opposition. however the centre forward attack the full back for the ball and dispossesed him crossed the ball in and scored.

Parkfan,

I'm not sure what happened but there is no rule that covers this. A question similar (but not the same) was asked earlier in this thread, here is the answer I gave below.



One more for The Ref! These days its common practice for players to put the ball out of play for injuries etc. I was wondering if a ref would be within his rights to book a player/award a free if, for example, Team A took advantage of Team B putting the ball out of play to allow attention to an injured member of Team A.



I will answer this question is its two parts

a) A question similar to this actually started this thread so this is the answer I gave then

There is no rule. If a player kicks the ball out of play, the opposition are under no obligation to return the ball to them, also if the referee stops the game in order for a player to receive treatment and no foul has occured, a drop ball restarts the game neither team is obligated to return the ball. (For a drop ball) If a player states to the referee that he is returning the ball to the oppisition and the drop ball becomes uncontested and that player "changes his mind" and dosen't pass the ball back, there is nothing the referee can do (offically), in practice, most referees will stop the game and re-drop the ball which will then become fiercly contested.


The Ref

old git
05/02/2007, 12:57 PM
can u help here ..

was in a pub yesterday and good discusion overheard a bout a penalty decision..

player went to tackle in box ,, but at last min pulled his leg back no contact to oppistion player .. who many thought dived... referee gave a penalty with explanation.. it was for intent same as fouling player ... i have stopped playing a fews years ago but this seems a new one to me .. :confused: :confused:

Goals4fun
05/02/2007, 2:18 PM
can u help here ..

was in a pub yesterday and good discusion overheard a bout a penalty decision..

player went to tackle in box ,, but at last min pulled his leg back no contact to oppistion player .. who many thought dived... referee gave a penalty with explanation.. it was for intent same as fouling player ... i have stopped playing a fews years ago but this seems a new one to me .. :confused: :confused:

i am not a ref but i think the 'intent' thing is a bit all over the shop. Stevie gerrard got a peno in the first game of the season where a player slid in and in trying to hurdle him he strugled to shot. the ref gave a peno. This was for the intent as if gerrard did not hurdle he would have been cleaved and in hurdling him , he lost his balance and oppertuinty to score.
If the leg was pulled away and this did not effect the player it should have been a free out and a card for diving. If he tried to get out of the way and went down then i suppose the peno is correct.

old git
05/02/2007, 2:32 PM
i am not a ref but i think the 'intent' thing is a bit all over the shop. Stevie gerrard got a peno in the first game of the season where a player slid in and in trying to hurdle him he strugled to shot. the ref gave a peno. This was for the intent as if gerrard did not hurdle he would have been cleaved and in hurdling him , he lost his balance and oppertuinty to score.
If the leg was pulled away and this did not effect the player it should have been a free out and a card for diving. If he tried to get out of the way and went down then i suppose the peno is correct.

would agree with u on above ,, could be some very dodgy penaltys if referees start using intent ... to deceide on these decision.. what if my intent was to win the ball . ;)

The Ref
14/02/2007, 8:24 PM
can u help here ..

was in a pub yesterday and good discusion overheard a bout a penalty decision..

player went to tackle in box ,, but at last min pulled his leg back no contact to oppistion player .. who many thought dived... referee gave a penalty with explanation.. it was for intent same as fouling player ... i have stopped playing a fews years ago but this seems a new one to me .. :confused: :confused:

Sorry for the delay in replying,

Law 14, the penalty kick states “A penalty kick is awarded against a team that commits one of the ten offences for which a direct free kick is awarded, inside its own penalty area and while the ball is in play.”

the ten offences, that when committed in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:, results in a direct free kick are;

if, in the opinion of the referee, a player:
1. kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
2. trips or attempts to trip an opponent
3. jumps at an opponent
4. charges an opponent
5. strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
6. pushes an opponent
7. tackles an opponent to gain possession of the ball, making contact with the opponent before touching the ball
8. holds an opponent
9. spits at an opponent
10. handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

From what you have said, the referee was of the opinion that the player attempted to trip the player, therefore a penalty was given.

Hope this clears it up.

The Ref

Jamjar
14/02/2007, 9:22 PM
Is a shoulder charge still legal ? i.e. shoulder to shoulder to knock your opponent off the ball.

The Ref
14/02/2007, 10:47 PM
Is a shoulder charge still legal ? i.e. shoulder to shoulder to knock your opponent off the ball.

Prior to 1997, Law 12 mentioned what a fair charge was i.e. shoulder to shoulder. Since then it is left to the referee what a fair charge is.

If a player charges an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force then it is a direct free kick to the opposition. Otherwise it is legal.

It depends on the opinion of the referee, not an answer I know, but an expaination.

I would normally let it go if it is fair and not dangerous.

The Ref

Jamjar
15/02/2007, 4:58 PM
Thanks for that. I think it should be allowed, don't want the game to be completely non-contact.

Innishvilla
21/02/2007, 8:16 AM
I suppose last nights incidents will spark an interesting debate regarding quick free kicks! I play amateur soccer and I know the rule surely professional footballers should know as well. I felt a bit sorry for Lille until they went to walk off the pitch, that was a disgrace. My question for the Ref is, what would you do if a team threatened to walk off the pitch?

The Ref
24/02/2007, 12:05 PM
I suppose last nights incidents will spark an interesting debate regarding quick free kicks! I play amateur soccer and I know the rule surely professional footballers should know as well. I felt a bit sorry for Lille until they went to walk off the pitch, that was a disgrace. My question for the Ref is, what would you do if a team threatened to walk off the pitch?

You ask what I would do, it has happened to me in the past, but it is not covered in the Laws. A little common sense needs to be applied in these situations, should a considerable period of time have elapsed, I would abandon the match but if it took, say two or three minutes to come back to the field I would restart the game with my original decision.

I would not try to influence the team that has walked off nor would I appease them by changing my decision. I would let them know before I was officially abandoning the match that I was doing so, in reality, giving them a final opportunity to change their mind and return to the match.

I would then furnish a report to the relevant authorities giving an account of the facts

The Ref

thumbtack
26/02/2007, 9:45 PM
Was watching a game where team A put the ball out of play for an injury to an oppossing player. Team B threw the ball back to the keeper of team A and he picked it up. The ref gave an indirect free kick to team B, is this a good call.

Mr_Parker
26/02/2007, 10:07 PM
I haven't read threw all of this thread so I'm not sure if this link has been posted before.I find it an excellent reference for all things "referee"

http://www.corshamref.net/

DmanDmythDledge
27/02/2007, 4:00 PM
Was watching a game where team A put the ball out of play for an injury to an oppossing player. Team B threw the ball back to the keeper of team A and he picked it up. The ref gave an indirect free kick to team B, is this a good call.
No. The fact they the ball was kicked out deliberately due to injury is irrelevent- it was still a normal throw.

The Ref
27/02/2007, 8:18 PM
Was watching a game where team A put the ball out of play for an injury to an oppossing player. Team B threw the ball back to the keeper of team A and he picked it up. The ref gave an indirect free kick to team B, is this a good call.

No this is incorrect.


No. The fact they the ball was kicked out deliberately due to injury is irrelevent- it was still a normal throw.

An indirect free kick is only awarded when the goalkeeper touches the ball with his hands directly from a throw in taken by a team-mate (Law 12 refers).

In the example above, the throw was taken by the opposition.

The Ref