View Full Version : Duff to Spurs?
paul_oshea
30/05/2006, 1:26 PM
in todays standard over here in england.
ya heres an excerpt from the article:
at spurs, it would be a different story. head coach martin jol was forced to use edgar davids as a makeshift left-midfield player last season due to a shortage of options on that side.
The response was encouraging enough to leave spurs weight up a club record offer - in excess of £11m - for the irish international.
NeilMcD
30/05/2006, 2:40 PM
Great move for Spurs and Duff and Ireland if it happens in my view.
Hither green
30/05/2006, 2:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised. They appear to be after a left-winger with Middlesbrough telling them to keep their hands of Downing. That would be good.
tetsujin1979
30/05/2006, 2:45 PM
There may be legs to this story, Mourinho has stated on more than one occasion that he doesn't want to buy another wide player as he has 4 (Duff, Robben, SWP and Cole) but reports from Portugal indicate he's interested in the U-21 captain, Ricardo Quaresma, who is a winger. If Duff, or any of the wide players, were to move, then he would be the ideal replacement
Love to see Duff go to Spurs - then we'd start to see the best out of him. However Id say its just speculation - Just look at the amount of players Spurs have been linked with
tetsujin1979
30/05/2006, 3:13 PM
Just look at the amount of players Spurs have been linked with
Or the number of midfielders they have on their books!
NeilMcD
30/05/2006, 3:27 PM
Spurs got rid of an awful lot of midfield players I posted this on another thread but this is spurs midfielders
Carrick
Jenas
Tanio
Murphy
Reid
Lennon
Routledge
Ziegler
Davids
Routledge and Ziegler were out on load and Davids is on his way to Ajax probaby.
Again it's paper talk but Murphy, Routledge, Ziegler and Davids have all been linked with moves away from Spurs. Plenty of room for Duffer. Duff on the left and Lennon on the right, proper old fashioned team with 2 out and out wingers then.
But i thought it would be SWP to leave if any of the Chelski's wingers were leaving.
eirebhoy
30/05/2006, 5:13 PM
But i thought it would be SWP to leave if any of the Chelski's wingers were leaving.
With Duff going into the last year of his contract his future has to be sorted out in the summer. Mourinho likes him so would probably offer him a new one (or probably already has) and if Duff doesn't want to sign it he'll be sold. Unless Duff signs a new contract this summer I doubt very much Chelsea will keep him.
ken foree
30/05/2006, 6:20 PM
to be fair to duff, he seems more a modest, reserved character than many of the mercs in today's game so i doubt money was the ONLY thing in his mind when he moved to chelsea. that said, i'd like him to move from there also. there was that bizarre sight of him watching ricardo carvalho romp up his wing and hammer one home against man. united - sort've symbolic of what he's become at chelsea, a bit of a lonely passenger.
thejollyrodger
30/05/2006, 9:27 PM
Duff to spurs ??? thats all he's fit for IMHO. Chelsea ruined him. Turned him into a full back.
DmanDmythDledge
30/05/2006, 9:30 PM
Ye not fit for a team who can finish high up in the Premiership.
He is a class act and needs to be playing for a team that will allow him to express himself down the left. Would be an excellent move for Duff and Spurs.
Colbert Report
30/05/2006, 9:32 PM
I'd like to see Harte and Duff both go to Spurs. They'd have a great attack down the left flank.
fergalr
30/05/2006, 9:49 PM
Pretty sure that anything in the Lahn Evenin Stahn is made up. Anyways it would be a bad move for the Duffa especially seeing what 3 point lane has done for Andy Reid's waistline.
I'm sure Damien wants to stay in the nice part of London and win more medals.
eirebhoy
30/05/2006, 10:47 PM
Duff to spurs ??? thats all he's fit for IMHO. Chelsea ruined him. Turned him into a full back.
Short memory. You don't just lose your ability in 1 season. Duff is still as good as he ever was.
drinkfeckarse
31/05/2006, 8:32 AM
With Duff going into the last year of his contract his future has to be sorted out in the summer.
Was this not discussed here not so long ago and it turns out he has 2 years left?? Not that I'm one to doubt your knowledge eirebhoy ;)
as_i_say
31/05/2006, 8:34 AM
Short memory. You don't just lose your ability in 1 season. Duff is still as good as he ever was.
He's been poor now by his standards for a season and a half. Its not inconceivable that a players lack o confidence will harm his form on a long term basis. That remark about him being turned inhto a full back last season at chelsea is spot on.
Of course it would mean the end of cornish pastie boy at spurs probably but a move for him would be good as well.
Also how sh it is davids by the way? up there with cisse, traore and mills for most atrociously over rated prem player. ever. had to get that one off my chest.
drinkfeckarse
31/05/2006, 8:41 AM
Also how sh it is davids by the way? up there with cisse, traore and mills for most atrociously over rated prem player. ever. had to get that one off my chest.
:confused: You have to be actually rated first to be over rated....you won't find many Liverpool fans that will argue that Traore is good enough.
Hither green
31/05/2006, 8:58 AM
He's been poor now by his standards for a season and a half. Its not inconceivable that a players lack o confidence will harm his form on a long term basis. That remark about him being turned inhto a full back last season at chelsea is spot on.
It's just the Chelsea formation and how Mourinho wants him to play. I thought he'd shaken off any of those habits when he pulled on the green jersey this year.
Stuttgart88
31/05/2006, 9:39 AM
Was this not discussed here not so long ago and it turns out he has 2 years left?? Not that I'm one to doubt your knowledge eirebhoy ;)I thought it was the other way around - it's commonly thought he has two years left, but he actually only has one. We'll see!
Would prefer if he went abroad, but Spurs would definitely be a natural fit for his abilities. Purely selfishly, I wish Spurs would stop buying Irish players, I want to have as few reasons as possible to like them :).
From a journalistic perspective, my guess is that the Standard sells about 10,000 extra copies in North London on the back of this type of story.
John83
31/05/2006, 10:36 AM
Anyways it would be a bad move for the Duffa especially seeing what 3 point lane has done for Andy Reid's waistline.
You're talking ****e. Reid was fat long before he went to Spurs. And Keane seems to be fitter than ever right now.
NeilMcD
31/05/2006, 10:41 AM
I think the fact he called it 3 point lane shows it all. Duff going to Spurs would be good for all concerned in my view. It would be great for Ireland that Duff would be playing week in week out and the top of his game and playing with Robbie also. IT can only be good for Ireland which is the main thing.
FarBeag
31/05/2006, 11:12 AM
I would also love to see Duff at Spurs.Having him play week in week out will be good for him and Ireland.Watching him warming the bench or playing a bit part at Chelsea is just a sorry sight and will do no one any favors.
eirebhoy
31/05/2006, 12:04 PM
Was this not discussed here not so long ago and it turns out he has 2 years left?? Not that I'm one to doubt your knowledge eirebhoy ;)
When he signed every report said he signed until 2007. Stutts posted a report a few weeks ago saying he's out of contract in 2007, not 2008 as many people thought. I think that journalist was the only one to think he signed for 5 years. :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3081647.stm
He's been poor now by his standards for a season and a half. Its not inconceivable that a players lack o confidence will harm his form on a long term basis. That remark about him being turned inhto a full back last season at chelsea is spot on.
You'd have a point if he wasn't still taken the **** out of most full backs that come to Lansdowne. :) All he needs is to get back running at players on a regular basis and he'll be his old self again.
drinkfeckarse
31/05/2006, 12:13 PM
When he signed every report said he signed until 2007. Stutts posted a report a few weeks ago saying he's out of contract in 2007, not 2008 as many people thought. I think that journalist was the only one to think he signed for 5 years. :)
Nice one, yourself and Stuttgart are as informative as ever....
Stuttgart88
31/05/2006, 12:21 PM
I wonder which Duff would himself prefer: being an almost certain starter with attacking license under a progressive manager at a progressive club unlikely to win major honours and for whom success is more subjectively defined, or being part of an extremely successful, but totally functional side under an egotistical manager who restricts Duff's attacking license, rushes him back from injury & doesn't always play him?
I suspect Duff isn't as much driven by silverware (not now anyway) as a desire to enjoy his football week-in, week-out.
I wonder is he still as happy at Chelsea as he was so obviously 12-15 months ago. The possibility of playing alongside Ballack & Shevchenko must be appealling.
geysir
31/05/2006, 12:22 PM
When he signed every report said he signed until 2007. Stutts posted a report a few weeks ago saying he's out of contract in 2007, not 2008 as many people thought. I think that journalist was the only one to think he signed for 5 years. :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3081647.stm
Stuttgart was referring to Times journalist, Rowan, who had got it right about one year left.
The BBC report appears definitive.
Maybee the 5 year contract rumor grew wings from here
http://www.football.co.uk/chelsea/duff_seals_record_move_160183.shtml
fergalr
31/05/2006, 12:52 PM
I wonder which Duff would himself prefer: being an almost certain starter with attacking license under a progressive manager at a progressive club unlikely to win major honours and for whom success is more subjectively defined, or being part of an extremely successful, but totally functional side under an egotistical manager who restricts Duff's attacking license, rushes him back from injury & doesn't always play him?
I suspect Duff isn't as much driven by silverware (not now anyway) as a desire to enjoy his football week-in, week-out.
I wonder is he still as happy at Chelsea as he was so obviously 12-15 months ago. The possibility of playing alongside Ballack & Shevchenko must be appealling.
Apart from the pejoritive manager remark and the "rushes back from injury" bit (when imho the opposite is the case - c/f DD's delayed return to action at the start of 2004/05 season), I think this post is spot on.
Unless you know Duffer personally or chat with his ma while queueing at the atm down in nutgrove, you all have no idea what his motivations are.
I have no idea if he is still happy at Chelski but moving away from the English champions to any other English club would by definition be a backwards career move.
By the way if Duffer underperforms in a green shirt then its an issue for Irish manager to sort out. Kerr failed on this point - lets hope Staunton gets more out of him.
Stuttgart88
31/05/2006, 1:39 PM
I was referring to the recent Paul Rowan article in suggesting that Duff came back from injury earlier than he wanted, at Mourinho's request.
Do you really think Mourinho isn't an egotist, or did I misunderstand your question?
It's also debatable whether being a part-time player at Chelsea is better career-wise than being a regular at a perfectly good club, that actually suits his style better. It's certainly a backwards move in terms of tangible success I agree.
A bit like Robbie last year, I think maybe we're being a bit premature in writing off Duff as a Chelsea player but it's certainly an interesting situation. Personally I think he suffers from not having two orthodox forwards to service at Chelsea. He so often hits good crosses at Drogba that he just wastes, whereas Joe Cole cuts out this "risk" and goes for goal himself, with better results than Duff.
Quiet day at work - hence I'd argue with anyone on anything today!
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