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A face
28/05/2006, 9:17 PM
Serious punishment is in order here
There is not serious punishment in order here ..... a member of FAI staff was in the paper not so long ago with unsavoury comments about the league and absolutely nothing happened as a result. The fact that nothing happened in that case set the height of the bar then. If something happens to Rico here then they will completely show the double standards within the FAI and actually just prove without doubt what Rico is saying.
They cant have it every way to be fair !!
Speranza
28/05/2006, 10:26 PM
Face, is it not fair to say that Rico is blaming his and Lennox's failings on refs. We are all subject to the stupdiity of these referees and saying it's a Dublin conspiracy is pathetic because it would also affect two other title challengers - ourselves and Drogs.
Stokes gave a free out during our match vs Linfield even though it was a Linfield player who crashed into his own keeper. He is a fool but I wouldn't say he is biased.
Superhoops
28/05/2006, 11:28 PM
There is not serious punishment in order here ..... a member of FAI staff was in the paper not so long ago with unsavoury comments about the league and absolutely nothing happened as a result. The fact that nothing happened in that case set the height of the bar then. If something happens to Rico here then they will completely show the double standards within the FAI and actually just prove without doubt what Rico is saying.
They cant have it every way to be fair !!
Face, forgetting punishment for a minute, can you clarify:
(a) do you think it is OK for any EL manager to make the comments that Rico made in that interview?
(b) do you think that Longford Town would be entitled to an apology from any EL manager who caused damage to a dressing room door by kicking it in?
sligoman
28/05/2006, 11:36 PM
If something happens to Rico here then they will completely show the double standards within the FAI and actually just prove without doubt what Rico is saying.No offence Face but something better happen Rico here. Our manager received a 1000euro suspended fine for saying **** all about a ref. He was fined 100 and the 1000 is suspended unless he says something else by the end of the season and if he does then he gets whacked with that, which is a disgrace. What Sean Connor said aint even half as bad as Rico said there:mad:.
I'm just looking forward to the fact that every club that gets a goal up on Cork from now on will be singing: 'Ridden rock solid, you're getting ridden rock solid, ridden rock solid....'
A face
29/05/2006, 12:06 AM
(a) do you think it is OK for any EL manager to make the comments that Rico made in that interview?
In normal circumstances no it wouldn't be.
(b) do you think that Longford Town would be entitled to an apology from any EL manager who caused damage to a dressing room door by kicking it in?
They would be entitled to an apology, but if it gets totally blown out of proportion sometimes it doesn't help the situation. I dont know the full details here so i obviously cant say either way. My only guage is some of the Longford fans on another forum.
But long story short .... apology should and will definitely will be given.
In normal circumstances no it wouldn't be.
They would be entitled to an apology, but if it gets totally blown out of proportion sometimes it doesn't help the situation. I dont know the full details here so i obviously cant say either way. My only guage is some of the Longford fans on another forum.
But long story short .... apology should and will definitely will be given.
Normal circumastances? You mean ones that don't effect Cork? I would imagine if this was any other manager in the league, Cork fans would be on here shouting off about how stupid it was to do and that absolutely nothing calls for that kind of childish outburst, that is degrading to the league and worthy of punishment.
But then again, when it is the king of the rednecks... ;)
CollegeTillIDie
29/05/2006, 6:40 AM
Well the fact remains. That was a game Cork City should have been looking at winning. Rico seems to have gone from being incapable of winning the League to being incapable of winning the Cup. :D
On a serious note City are weaker this season not only in terms of quality but in terms of numbers. He lost four players if you include the English departees mid season last year and replaced them with two Under 21 players. By my reckoning that leaves City 2 short of what they had last season. And the recent injury crisis at Turner's Cross has illustrated that.
Superhoops
29/05/2006, 7:20 AM
.....In normal circumstances no it wouldn't be.....
Face, methinks you are clouding a very straightforward issue.
It appears you are suggesting that in Rico's the circumstances were not normal? If so, can you clarify in what way were the circumstances not normal? If not, can we assume you agree Rico's comments were out of order?
bigmac
29/05/2006, 8:37 AM
Phew, that's completely out of order. Anyone who thinks that this is in any way acceptable should ask themselves what their opinion would be if another manager came out with the same response? He has really let himself and Cork City down with this interview.
I didn't listen to the interview as couldn't care less. Rico will get wrap on the knuckles & promise not to do it again as just in the heat of the moment. Other managers have come put with worse in the past & nothing happened to them. Roddy Collins was punched by Ollie Byrne & nothing happened...
Overall the fai rules are not strict enough to enforce any fine although i;m sure if its reasonable Rico would accept it & not drag into the courts like others.
Red&White
29/05/2006, 9:53 AM
Back on topic, Rico's excuses are getting a bit boring at this stage - and don't forget we're only a third of the way through the season, god knows what he'll be like by November. First it was everyone kicking Saint Georgie, now it's biased refs. All we're missing is a Keegan-esque rant on TV.
I love the fact that you were joking about this, and then we got one.
Superhoops
29/05/2006, 10:15 AM
I didn't listen to the interview as couldn't care less. Rico will get wrap on the knuckles & promise not to do it again as just in the heat of the moment. Other managers have come out with worse in the past & nothing happened to them. Roddy Collins was punched by Ollie Byrne & nothing happened...
Overall the fai rules are not strict enough to enforce any fine although i;m sure if its reasonable Rico would accept it & not drag into the courts like others.
How do you know other managers have come out with worse if you didnt listen to the interview (or read a transcript!)?
I don't profess to have heard or read every EL manager's interview over the last 30 years but this is something different and even if said in the heat of the moment (personally I don't believe it was) it is way out of order and cannot be ignored.
From the Irish Times: I'm disappointed they didn't use a headline like 'Reckless Rico to be Ridden Rock Solid over Rambling Rant' :)
Richardson may face action over outburst
Emmet Malone Soccer correspondent
Cork City manager Damien Richardson faces possible disciplinary action by the Eircom League after launching an emotional attack on Merrion Square administrators and Ian Stokes, the referee who oversaw his side's defeat by Longford Town in the FAI Cup on Friday night.
Speaking after the game at Flancare Park, Richardson expressed dismay that Stokes, an official he had already criticised this season, had been given the cup tie at short notice after the withdrawal of Dave McKeon.
The Dublin official infuriated the City boss with his handling of the game, not least for the penalty he awarded Longford late on for an alleged trip by goalkeeper Michael Devine on Dave Mooney.
Longford equalised from the spot kick and went on to win the game while Devine faces a suspension after being sent off as a result of the incident. Television replays subsequently showed that the referee had been mistaken in penalising the goalkeeper as no contact had been made with the striker.
Richardson is likely to receive a substantial fine from the league for his post-match comments which included allegations of incompetence against veteran Merrion Square officials and a clear suggestion that the club was being targeted for unfavourable treatment because of his previous comments.
A face
29/05/2006, 11:52 AM
Rico will get wrap on the knuckles & promise not to do it again as just in the heat of the moment.
Some people seem to think he should be hanged at dawn and fed to the lions ..... its sad really
EnDai
29/05/2006, 12:14 PM
Ah boo hoo
SeanDrog
29/05/2006, 12:18 PM
he has accused senor league officals of trying to effect the game with the appointment of Stokes to the Cork City cup match (at short notice), in a Dublin based bias against Cork City and he is not going to take it any longer.
Once all the babbling is cut out, this is the core of his message.
It will be interesting to see the leagues reaction to such an accusation.
That was hilarious
He makes a great point about Dan Connor. Murphy deserved his suspensions but Connor gets a one match ban?
el punter
29/05/2006, 12:45 PM
I didn't listen to the interview as couldn't care less.
Why could you not care less Pete? Your manager is standing up against what he believes is an anti-Cork agenda from Dublin. I imagine all Cork fans would be very interested in how Rico is putting it up to the powers that be. It's pretty big news in fairness.
Well he has certainly got ye all talking.
I think he's playing the press and trying to keep fans on side by creating an "us versus them" situation, when there could be justified call for unrest amongst supporters. We could certainly have done with at least a replay, not having a home game for 5 weeks isn't good financially.
Was away on hols last week and missed both the Derry and Longford games but the points about a weaker squad and things not being good are certainly valid.But sure we've had bad times before, we'll get through them despite the obstacles Dublin place in our way
Mick89
29/05/2006, 2:25 PM
Well he has certainly got ye all talking.
I think he's playing the press and trying to keep fans on side by creating an "us versus them" situation, when there could be justified call for unrest amongst supporters. We could certainly have done with at least a replay, not having a home game for 5 weeks isn't good financially.
Was away on hols last week and missed both the Derry and Longford games but the points about a weaker squad and things not being good are certainly valid.But sure we've had bad times before, we'll get through them despite the obstacles Dublin place in our way
It seems to me that the main obstacle Dublin has put in Corks way this year is Damien Richardson.
Jerry The Saint
29/05/2006, 2:41 PM
Looks to me like Rico is on the way out of Cork. This outburst will make it look like he's walking away rather than being pushed, allowing him to maintain his professional dignity (while losing his personal dignity:) )
When your team is playing badly its hard not to feel like getting no luck.
Roy O'Donovan got 3 match ban in the Setanta Cup for attempted retaliation (2 match ban might have been fairly but not too many gripes from city fans as stupid retaliation). Dan Connor punches Denis Behan & gets red card & 1 match ban so he returns for the final & makes 2 crucial saves. Unlucky or unfair?
You could say no tv cameras in Unted Park but does this mean teams on tv treated differently?
If they have the TV footage of course they should use it. Are you saying they shouldn't?
SeanDrog
29/05/2006, 3:20 PM
lets get away from this excuse making bla bla bla, whats fair or not fair, simply fact is that Ricardson has intimated publically that he believes that the powers that be, assigned that ref to the match to somehow effect the result against Cork City.
Now he must prove this allegation and lets face it, its a serious one - if he is right then football needs to undergo the italian style enquiry.
bigmac
29/05/2006, 3:24 PM
Some people seem to think he should be hanged at dawn and fed to the lions ..... its sad really
In fairness A Face, compare your reaction to what Devlin said a while ago. I think that most people here would be of the opinion that Rico's offence is worse than what Devlin said, yet you were out for him to be lynched.
The key question is can you honestly say that if it was Nutsy making those comments after a game then your reaction would be exactly the same? If so, then fine, we'll agree to disagree. If not then you're looking through red tinted glasses I'm afraid.
It seems to me that the main obstacle Dublin has put in Corks way this year is Damien Richardson.We'll see, we also had problems this time last season and managed to overcome them.
In Rico we trust.
BohsFans
29/05/2006, 3:48 PM
When your team is playing badly its hard not to feel like getting no luck.
Roy O'Donovan got 3 match ban in the Setanta Cup for attempted retaliation (2 match ban might have been fairly but not too many gripes from city fans as stupid retaliation). Dan Connor punches Denis Behan & gets red card & 1 match ban so he returns for the final & makes 2 crucial saves. Unlucky or unfair?
You could say no tv cameras in Unted Park but does this mean teams on tv treated differently?
Just wondering, why was there no cameras at that?
Was it not the Setanta Sports Cup?
Drogheda usually have 2 or 3 cameras at their home games.
Speranza
29/05/2006, 3:57 PM
But sure we've had bad times before, we'll get through them despite the obstacles Dublin place in our way
Do me a favour, SHUT UP! Boo hoo we are the real capital and Dublin hates us so much. If there is a Dublin conspiracy then you better believe it will hit us and Drogs in the same way it will CCFC. To be honest this is the arrogance manifesting itself as paranoia, just accept you aren't as good as last year.
i think this is a shrewd move once again from Rico, despite being very unprofessional it will mean that Stokes will be wary of decisions when refereeing Cork matches in the future.
A face
29/05/2006, 4:42 PM
In fairness A Face, compare your reaction to what Devlin said a while ago. I think that most people here would be of the opinion that Rico's offence is worse than what Devlin said, yet you were out for him to be lynched.
That is exactly my point .... What happened to Devlin over those comments, complete double standards.
I'm keeping my mouth shut till i know the outcome, but you needed worry .... its not going unnoticed
The key question is can you honestly say that if it was Nutsy making those comments after a game then your reaction would be exactly the same? If so, then fine, we'll agree to disagree. If not then you're looking through red tinted glasses I'm afraid.
I'm not saying a word ..... but just on that, Nutsy broken his ban how many times ?? and i didn't open my mouth.
Raheny Red
29/05/2006, 4:44 PM
I read in the paper this morning which said that the Cork website could be in trouble also for uploading the interview??? :eek: :confused:
A face
29/05/2006, 4:45 PM
I read in the paper this morning which said that the Cork website could be in trouble also for uploading the interview??? :eek: :confused:
I doubt it !!
BohDiddley
29/05/2006, 4:54 PM
I read in the paper this morning which said that the Cork website could be in trouble also for uploading the interview??? :eek: :confused:
Which paper?
Roverstillidie
29/05/2006, 5:18 PM
I doubt it !!
there was something about official websites and programmes being held responsible for silliness published on/in them a few months back.
this would fit
I'm a tosser who has to make up and edit others quotes in order to have anything to say. Even after this pathetic move my points are still childish and irrelevant. I should really just leave.
I agree with all of that. Certainly the best post I've seen from you.
aido1895
29/05/2006, 5:22 PM
That is exactly my point .... What happened to Devlin over those comments, complete double standards.
I'm keeping my mouth shut till i know the outcome, but you needed worry .... its not going unnoticed
I'm not saying a word ..... but just on that, Nutsy broken his ban how many times ?? and i didn't open my mouth.
Your hypocrisy(sp?) isn't suprising. If you were honest enough you would admit that you would be kicking up a fuss if it was any other manager who made the comments. Rico made allegations which we can be nearly certain he has no proof of.
If Doolin or Fenlon made the same allegations or gave a similar interview you would be on here baying for blood and posting up info@fai.ie urging people to email so they didnt get away with it.
Jerry The Saint
29/05/2006, 5:26 PM
Interesting quote from Rico that this Dublin-based conspiracy "worked in our favour" during his time with a previous club and is now working against him. Shelbourne and/or Shamrock should ask him to explain his allegations that one or both of them were/are implicit in this corruption.
This goes a good way beyond Pat Devlin expressing an opinion as to the relative merits of various leagues.
Raheny Red
29/05/2006, 5:39 PM
Which paper?
The Sun :o :rolleyes: :ball:
Do me a favour, SHUT UP! Boo hoo we are the real capital and Dublin hates us so much. If there is a Dublin conspiracy then you better believe it will hit us and Drogs in the same way it will CCFC. To be honest this is the arrogance manifesting itself as paranoia, just accept you aren't as good as last year.
i think this is a shrewd move once again from Rico, despite being very unprofessional it will mean that Stokes will be wary of decisions when refereeing Cork matches in the future.
My quote I believe. not from Soko, forgot to put the smiley at the end, :) probably what upset you, poor soul.
Glad you agree its a shrewd move by Rico.
mypost
29/05/2006, 6:34 PM
Any suggestion that Dublin officials deliberately set out in games to conspire against non-Dublin teams is hysterical shyte.
Last year, 2 of our players were sent off against Cork for no reason. Our next game was against Waterford, and there were rumours going round our camp that Delaney had instructed refs to favour our opponents in games, to aid Waterford's survival bid. However, everyone knew there was no truth in it.
Lads, this is not Serie A. We have ineft officials/admins in this league certainly, but I have never seen any evidence that refs here are corrupt.
That is exactly my point .... What happened to Devlin over those comments, complete double standards.
You don't know what happened Richardson yet so how can it be double standards?
Oh and I think kicking down the door at Longford won't help his case
Unfortunately a lot of our fans are extremely fickle and reactionary (look at how some turned against Kearney, Morley, Dolan etc in the past and even Rico when he left the first time) so recent results and his lack of new signings will have had Rico worried about how some of our fans would react.
He is using the same tactic that Dolan always used after a poor performance. He's creating an us versus them attitude and making the fans think everyone is out to get us. This results in them giving out about refs, the FAI etc instead of Rico or the players. It's a good move by Rico imo.
Dr.Nightdub
29/05/2006, 10:25 PM
Having listened to the recording, I think Rico let himself down bigtime. Lots of "fat arses", "ridden rock solid", "bo...fat cats", even one "fcuking" - but absolutely no long words. The mask has finally slipped. ;)
Superhoops
29/05/2006, 11:40 PM
Unfortunately a lot of our fans are extremely fickle and reactionary (look at how some turned against Kearney, Morley, Dolan etc in the past and even Rico when he left the first time) so recent results and his lack of new signings will have had Rico worried about how some of our fans would react.
He is using the same tactic that Dolan always used after a poor performance. He's creating an us versus them attitude and making the fans think everyone is out to get us. This results in them giving out about refs, the FAI etc instead of Rico or the players. It's a good move by Rico imo.
We hardly noticed this fickleness and the reactionary nature of Cork fans, thanks for tipping us off! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
And you Cork lot fall for it every time, while everyone else can see through it and laughs at the 'great Cork conspiracy theory' :D
The Good Son
30/05/2006, 7:45 AM
Unfortunately a lot of our fans are extremely fickle and reactionary (look at how some turned against Kearney, Morley, Dolan etc in the past and even Rico when he left the first time) so recent results and his lack of new signings will have had Rico worried about how some of our fans would react.
He is using the same tactic that Dolan always used after a poor performance. He's creating an us versus them attitude and making the fans think everyone is out to get us. This results in them giving out about refs, the FAI etc instead of Rico or the players. It's a good move by Rico imo.
What exactly is the problem with CCFC fans turning against Kearney and Morely? What exactly is fickle about turning against players that leave for an opposition team? Do you know anything about football culture?
Rico got very little grief when he left. People in them days had cop on and could see what he had to put up with, dealing with the chairman of the time, there was a huge ammount of support for him.
Fickle and reactionary is what Rico and Lennox had to put up with after the Portadown Setanta cup match last season, a bunch of knuckle dragging, Pat Dolan infatuated, numbskulls with their Lennox\Rico out protest.
Still it is worrying that Rico could start using Dolanisms as excuses, but hopefully that was only in the heat of the moment, and he won't start turning into Dolan. That would be a worrying scenario.
If they have the TV footage of course they should use it. Are you saying they shouldn't?
I think this is a big issue actually.
IMO TV footage has to either be used in all circumstances or none,you just cant pick and choose.The situation with Dan Connor is the perfect case because it worked in Drogheda's favour,and against us.
Of course we then subsequently have a player banned for 3 matches using video evidence in the same competition.(this is just the best example available,i didnt pick it because it involves City)
This could easily allow clubs to just not bother recording games for fear of what could happen
Maynard
30/05/2006, 5:58 PM
The player that was "fouled" admitted that he dived.
Andy Myler did exactly the same thing in an interview in 2003...doesn't matter a f@ck really. If teams are willing to accept instances of "gamesmanship" that benefit them, then they have to prepare to recieve a karmic slap on the @rse in the same suit.
Celdrog
30/05/2006, 7:20 PM
When your team is playing badly its hard not to feel like getting no luck.
Roy O'Donovan got 3 match ban in the Setanta Cup for attempted retaliation (2 match ban might have been fairly but not too many gripes from city fans as stupid retaliation). Dan Connor punches Denis Behan & gets red card & 1 match ban so he returns for the final & makes 2 crucial saves. Unlucky or unfair?
You could say no tv cameras in Unted Park but does this mean teams on tv treated differently?
Roy O'Donovan did not have attempted retaliation - he did retaliate and headbutted him. Dan Connor says he never touched Behan, same as Rico said about Devine. You say punch, Rico says headbutt - at least one of you is telling porkies.
Danny Murphy punched Keith Fahey after the Setanta Cup final and then got another red in the Conh match - of course he is going to get a bigger ban.
Only conspiracy in the Setanta cup was Kelly deciding to ref the Cork Drogs game in Cork at short notice. Remember Behan blocking two Fahey frees with his hands - blantant free and penalty but not given.
Didn't hear Rico complaining about a Dublin conspiracy that night. :rolleyes:
Funnily enough Doolo didn't comment about being ridden rock solid that night either - we just got on with things and won the cup.
Sniffer
30/05/2006, 7:54 PM
HE'S BACK
corktrophycentre.com/audios/richardson127.mp3
CollegeTillIDie
30/05/2006, 8:05 PM
Well he did moan a lot, early last season, about the likes of UCD and Bray going to Turner's Cross and refusing to roll over and play dead and allow City beat them. I mean the cheek of College and the Seagulls to go there and come back with a point each from draws. Who do those teams think they are? Was the general gist of his post match interviews!
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