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Ceirtlis
25/04/2006, 9:56 AM
From what i can see the there would have to be an enourmous jump in budget for this show to be "match of the day style". The camera work etc is shocking at present so i dont think it would be feasible to show anything other than the main highlights from the games. In fairness they are not getting much to work with there were poor crowds at all of the last four el premier games. I would imagine tv3 view this show as something going out to a minority interest who should be happy that it is on the television in the first place. They should stop talking about betting as well. They obviously know damn all seen as drogheda are a "brilliant price" at 11/4 on paddy power when they are 5/1 at ladbrokes this morning.
CollegeTillIDie
02/05/2006, 8:15 PM
No it's on tonight and it clashes with BBC 1 N.Ireland's broadcast of Gary Lineker's interview with Diego Maradona :(
No it's on tonight and it clashes with BBC 1 N.Ireland's broadcast of Gary Lineker's interview with Diego Maradona :(
Thanks :)
NY Hoop
04/05/2006, 10:46 AM
An improvement in that it showed all 6 premier games. Also a goal of the month competition but bizarrely without Deery's sensational goal in Waterford:o
Oh when are Waterford and Sligo gonna get proper gantries facing the stand? It looks absolutely amateurish.
KOH
Dodge
04/05/2006, 10:47 AM
What were the nominations? Molloy get one?
Raheny Red
04/05/2006, 1:38 PM
Yep, he got one.
Derry goal V Waterford
O'Neill V UCD
John O'Flynn (at TC but can't remember the opposition)
There were 6 put I can't remember the other two
The Derry goal or the junkie will it, two great goals but I would'nt be surprised if Neiler won it :)
Tadhg Purcell's goal of the millenium header against Kildare was also there...
NY Hoop
04/05/2006, 5:25 PM
You have a good stand. Why not show the best feature in the ground? Cameras should not be in with the fans for obvious reasons. Your answer is childish..........
KOH
gustavo
04/05/2006, 7:13 PM
Would be nice to get a new gantry on the far side RT though and it would show the club in a better light to the general public.
pineapple stu
04/05/2006, 9:08 PM
There aren't any (or many, at least) fans on the far side - that's the whole point! TV3 once announced highlights of a Sligo game played in front of Sligo's biggest crowd of the season, and then showed the crappy far stand with five people in it. Then Sligo scored, and everyone started getting in the way of the camera. It's quite clearly a nonsense scenario. How much would it cost to stick up a small gantry at the far side?
NY Hoop
05/05/2006, 10:39 AM
Try and see the bigger picture. Gustavo does. Its not rocket science ffs. If you are trying to attract people to come to games watching highlights from Waterford and sligo will mean they'll never come. Frankly it looks awful.
KOH
The Stars
05/05/2006, 11:02 AM
Foys play to set up McT didnt look awful!!!
We do need a gantry the far side though,that way you would have the noise from Matty's singing crew,good shots of the shed and the attractiveness of a full new stand.....plus sean connor giving out to the 4th offical
pineapple stu
05/05/2006, 12:30 PM
Thats nonsense that there was only 5 people on the far side ! what game are you on about ? The biggest game of last season was the Athlone match it was full. As far this season there have been decent crowds on that side all season. Average i woud say 400 per game. I mean Stu i worry about where you pick up your information from i honestly do.
Obviously it was the biggest game of the season when it was played. Which was in early 2004. Facts, RT, facts. A gantry at the other side would quite simply look far better and reflect far better on the club. The hard work is done in getting the stand there and getting it mostly full every game - why shy away from the easy bit of showing off?
Red4Eva
05/05/2006, 4:29 PM
Obviously it was the biggest game of the season when it was played. Which was in early 2004. Facts, RT, facts. A gantry at the other side would quite simply look far better and reflect far better on the club. The hard work is done in getting the stand there and getting it mostly full every game - why shy away from the easy bit of showing off?
there's far more advertsing hoardings on the far side
The Stars
05/05/2006, 5:51 PM
thats a good point actually,but do the sponsors of does sings even know about ELW and the exposure they get?
pineapple stu
05/05/2006, 11:44 PM
there's far more advertsing hoardings on the far side
The hoardings are there because that's the side the camera's on, not the other way around.
RT - nobody's talking about cutting off people's views. The new stand is superb - show it off. That's all. Most people here agree, it seems.
CollegeTillIDie
06/05/2006, 10:14 AM
Well i dont think there would be enough room at the backl of stand to set up a gantry so it would have to go to the front where it would block people views !
RT I think Pineapple is advocating the camera being opposite the main stand not IN it !
gustavo
06/05/2006, 1:41 PM
It's just a little thing really but i mean its these little things put together that help the league to look a bit more professional . Little victories is what it is all about . You would be surprised at the power of perception . Watching a game on the box with a packed stadium infront of you can make it more appealling that if it was infront of an empty crowd.Another bug bear of mine is squad numbers. I think that every club in the League should have them or else none should. It is ridiculous that some clubs have them and some dont and makes the League look amateurish.
pineapple stu
07/05/2006, 12:04 AM
Well i dont think there would be enough room at the backl of stand to set up a gantry so it would have to go to the front where it would block people views !
It just goes on top of the stand.
Gus - hate squad numbers myself. Think they look stupid. Hope we never get them...
DmanDmythDledge
08/05/2006, 10:59 PM
Classic Osam tonight- "This was Drogheda's first chance of the first half." A clip from the second half was being shown.
pineapple stu
08/05/2006, 11:06 PM
Some Goal of the Season May is going to be! McWalter's brace, Hutton's lob and Molloy's free were all superb goals.
Speranza
09/05/2006, 1:40 AM
Deery's volley from Waterford which was scored in April didn't feature in April's GOTM. It's not difficult to get the month right. Clip below
http://www.zippyvideos.com/4047447135027796/_derry_goals/
Lim till i die
09/05/2006, 10:30 AM
Why did they keep calling Dalymount Park Tolka Park during the highlights of Dublin City v Pats, its only a small thing but shocking unprofessional like
Also was anyone else just waiting for that poor cameraman at Longford Bohs to be blown off the gantry to his death :eek:
Peadar
09/05/2006, 10:47 AM
Gus - hate squad numbers myself. Think they look stupid. Hope we never get them...
That's all well and good for someone like you who knows every player in the league but that cannot be said for the entire TV audience or every league patron. Squad numbers help raise the recognition of players and allow match programme editors to have players identified by number rather than people having to write the number next to a player if they can make out what is being announced over the Tannoy.
Why did they keep calling Dalymount Park Tolka Park during the highlights of Dublin City v Pats, its only a small thing but shocking unprofessional like
Trevor: "And now report from Tolka Park..."
Reporter: "Pats beat Dublin City at Tolka Park on friday..."
:rolleyes:
Then again Dublin City have changed grounds & club name more times then Osam has joked about not being a gambler...
pineapple stu
09/05/2006, 12:32 PM
That's all well and good for someone like you who knows every player in the league but that cannot be said for the entire TV audience or every league patron. Squad numbers help raise the recognition of players and allow match programme editors to have players identified by number rather than people having to write the number next to a player if they can make out what is being announced over the Tannoy.
Don't intend to take over this thread on this topic, but (a) I don't know every player in the league and (b) they don't help the recognition of players any more than normal because (i) we already have a system whereby numbers are assigned to players for identification and (ii) I don't know the Shels/Cork/etc squad numbers.
Squad numbers are just about money grabbing in bigger leagues and inferiority complexes in smaller leagues.
Classic Osam tonight- "This was Drogheda's first chance of the first half." A clip from the second half was being shown.
After saying(rightly) shels were the only team unbeaten he proceded to say Derry have won all their games bar drawing with Dublin City :rolleyes:
Peadar
09/05/2006, 1:29 PM
Agree with stu
You would, since your boys have gone backwards.
What's wrong with kids getting the name and number of their hero on the back of a shirt?
harry crumb
09/05/2006, 1:35 PM
I try to watch it most weeks and I continue to be disappointed. Things dont seem to have moved on at all since the programme started.
Patsy McGowenn made the point in his column that he finds it strange why the Cameras are always facing away from the crowd and into empty terraces.
Most notable for this are..
Sligo Rovers,
Cork City
Waterford united
Derry City
Just makes the matches look sh1te.
Peadar
09/05/2006, 1:49 PM
Most notable for this are..
Sligo Rovers,
Cork City
Waterford united
Derry City
Just makes the matches look sh1te.
Our cameras face the most vocal and colourful group of supporters in the ground! We've always got a fairly good crowd in the Derrynane Road side. How could you have watched the highlights from the Waterford game last night and said that "the Cameras are always facing away from the crowd and into empty terraces. Just makes the matches look sh1te."?
harry crumb
09/05/2006, 2:02 PM
Well the Donie Forde is a better stand.
Well the Donie Forde is a better stand.
Yeah but emptier than the Derrynane these days and very little atmosphere in it(bar the family enclosure). The cameras are in the right place IMO which wll catch the singing and colourful support
Poor Student
09/05/2006, 2:11 PM
Don't squad numbers make it harder to record lineups into programmes? I mean you write the number beside the player and then you know who played and in what position as opposed to putting ticks beside numerically ordered players who have been assigned numbers on a somewhat random basis. I much prefer the old school 1-11. It also enables easier identification of opposition in my opinion as I can identify players I've never head of by their number which equates to their position.
harry crumb
09/05/2006, 2:16 PM
Yeah but emptier than the Derrynane these days and very little atmosphere in it(bar the family enclosure). The cameras are in the right place IMO which wll catch the singing and colourful support
So when the new Shed is built you think pointing the cameras at a small little stand about 6 rows high and with houses in the backround is more pleasing to the eye than the Donie Forde stand?
I still stand by the point made about the cameras at the grounds.
So when the new Shed is built you think pointing the cameras at a small little stand about 6 rows high and with houses in the backround is more pleasing to the eye than the Donie Forde stand?
I still stand by the point made about the cameras at the grounds.
There'd still probably be a better atmosphere in the derrynane. I dunno it depends what the atmosphre is like in different parts of the ground then. For now I still think its in the right place
Peadar
09/05/2006, 2:32 PM
Don't squad numbers make it harder to record lineups into programmes?
Harder if you want to make it harder for yourself.
I appreciated that a football outfit like yours who sell 5 replica shirts a year, fail to see any benefit in squad numbers but for the big clubs with ambition, it helps merchandise sales.
Poor Student
09/05/2006, 2:48 PM
Harder if you want to make it harder for yourself.
I appreciated that a football outfit like yours who sell 5 replica shirts a year, fail to see any benefit in squad numbers but for the big clubs with ambition, it helps merchandise sales.
Ever one for wuming Peader.
Any particular evidence that Gamble No. 6 jerseys would sell less than Gamble No.20? Or O'Donovan 7 over O'Donovan 12? Does eroding tradition always have to be equated with ambition? An actual big club in Barcelona announced today they'd once again forgo shirt sponsorship in spite of the clear financial benefits. Always thought they had no ambition.
NY Hoop
09/05/2006, 2:51 PM
Agree with harry here. Not so bad in cork because they are getting the crowds and have moved the away fans to the smaller stand but the main gantry should be facing the main stand as that is the best stand in the ground generally.
Worst example is waterford simply because you are looking out at nothing. Cannot understand why a small gantry is not built, even temporarily, to put the camera facing the stand. Sligo the same lovely stand but you cant see it on tv. Its all about image and perception.
Believe Derry are looking into it.......
KOH
Peadar
09/05/2006, 2:56 PM
Any particular evidence that Gamble No. 6 jerseys would sell less than Gamble No.20? Or O'Donovan 7 over O'Donovan 12?
What the hell are you on about?
I'm not talking about what exactly the numbers are, just that having a number which is always that of the player, means that you get a shirt printed and the name of your hero matches the number.
Poor Student
09/05/2006, 3:01 PM
What the hell are you on about?
I'm not talking about what exactly the numbers are, just that having a number which is always that of the player, means that you get a shirt printed and the name of your hero matches the number.
Relax Peader. Squad numbers aren't necessary for that. Gamble would probably be No. 6 every time he started if there were no squad numbers. Traditionally numbers have been equated with a certain position and if a player claims that position for themselves then they claim that number as their own for the main part.
Peadar
09/05/2006, 3:21 PM
Gamble would probably be No. 6 every time he started if there were no squad numbers.
Still don't see why that's better than having squad numbers?
Poor Student
09/05/2006, 4:03 PM
Still don't see why that's better than having squad numbers?
I prefer to see numbers 1-11 out on the park. Those numbers are traditionally identifiable with the positions on the field. Makes a game easier to follow than a collection of random meaningless numbers. I don't see why that's better or necessary.
ger121
09/05/2006, 4:26 PM
Which teams do people think have the best camera footage of games and give a good impression of the grounds?
i'd go for Bohs (No bias here I swear)
Shels
Cork
pineapple stu
09/05/2006, 4:36 PM
What's wrong with kids getting the name and number of their hero on the back of a shirt?
Nothing stopping them with the 1-11 system.
On the cameras issue, I'd agree with ger - Dalyer looks the best on the telly by a distance. Nothing stopping Sligo or Derry looking as well if they'd show the proper stand. Longford would look well if they had people at their games.
Nothing stopping them with the 1-11 system.
On the cameras issue, I'd agree with ger - Dalyer looks the best on the telly by a distance. Nothing stopping Sligo or Derry looking as well if they'd show the proper stand. Longford would look well if they had people at their games.
Remeber we cant touch our ground to improve it:rolleyes:
Red4Eva
09/05/2006, 6:11 PM
do any neutrals think our darren mansaram deserved to be sent off for his "tackle" on ucd's conor kenna?
do any neutrals think our darren mansaram deserved to be sent off for his "tackle" on ucd's conor kenna?
I didn't see much in it but they only showed it the once. Looked maybe more of a bookable offence but was studying at the same time so wasn't watching very closely.
Poor Student
09/05/2006, 6:35 PM
I didn't see much in it but they only showed it the once. Looked maybe more of a bookable offence but was studying at the same time so wasn't watching very closely.
He was already booked, it was his second yellow.
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