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Cosmo
02/01/2006, 3:42 PM
I said the "emphasis on English football reporting".

I know - wasnt having a pop ;)

Conor H
02/01/2006, 4:24 PM
Or maybe even start covering the Eircom League as if it was our national league :rolleyes:
:D :D

ThatGuy
04/01/2006, 12:31 PM
(and for some arguably four :eek: )
Well no, Britain is the name of the island which contains England, Wales and Scotland. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).

We're not really good enough to be England's rivals in a footballing sense, historically obviously England is the only country that Ireland may have a "grudge" against. Rivalry is always a mutual thing and I don't think that the feeling really is mutual from England, who probably consider Scotland and Germany to be their main rivals.

Junior
04/01/2006, 12:51 PM
Rivalry is always a mutual thing and I don't think that the feeling really is mutual from England, who probably consider Scotland and Germany to be their main rivals.

Really? what was all the fuss about in 95 then?

ThatGuy
04/01/2006, 12:55 PM
Really? what was all the fuss about in 95 then?
Those hooligans would (and have) run amock wherever they have been allowed to. They didn't suddenly emerge for that game.

Junior
05/01/2006, 12:46 PM
Those hooligans would (and have) run amock wherever they have been allowed to. They didn't suddenly emerge for that game.

Agreed. But the premeditated nature of this attack, in the stadium, was, shall we say borne out of a perceived 'rivalry'? (or Anti-Irish??)

ThatGuy
05/01/2006, 12:57 PM
Agreed. But the premeditated nature of this attack, in the stadium, was, shall we say borne out of a perceived 'rivalry'? (or Anti-Irish??)
I am sure that anything would get them going. Of course the C18 lads would love to give us Fenian *******s a hiding. I am sure that they would have been as eager to give the Krauts/Huns a good hiding, or the "Frog eating *******s", or "Pakis", or whoever they were playing.

Karlos
05/01/2006, 1:45 PM
There are many good natured English fans who should not be tarred with the same brush as common thugs and hooligans. These Genuine english football fans, I don't believe see Ireland as a major rival. That honour is certainly kept for the Scots and the Germans.

Stuttgart88
05/01/2006, 1:58 PM
A lot has happened politically & economically in both countries too since 1995 and in football terms too.

The chants of "No Surrender" would sound a bit daft given the "war" is actually over.

The average English football fan saves his vitriol for Argentina & Germany, Scotland and maybe France too. By and large they're such xenophobes they think they have valid reason to hate just about everyone, especially countries they feel superior to militarily! But I think we're way off the list of teams they'd consider a rival these days. That said, if we were to play them any time soon it'd be a crime to treat the security situation as flippantly as we did in '95.

Beavis
05/01/2006, 4:13 PM
Has the ever been a similar incident to Lansdowne '95 in a game between Scotland and England ?

pineapple stu
05/01/2006, 6:32 PM
Wembley 77? Though that was the other way around...

Roverstillidie
05/01/2006, 9:02 PM
Has the ever been a similar incident to Lansdowne '95 in a game between Scotland and England ?

has there ever been a situation that an england scotland game was as woefully badly policed?

Plastic Paddy
06/01/2006, 6:39 AM
Well no, Britain is the name of the island which contains England, Wales and Scotland. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)

Which is why I said "for some arguably". Read the post properly...

:ball: PP

Roverstillidie
06/01/2006, 6:38 PM
Which is why I said "for some arguably". Read the post properly...

:ball: PP

PP, he is a Boyezzzzzzz fan, so there is the touch of a Loylaist about him. Dont go down the queen and country road with a gypo, it always ends in tears.

shakermaker1982
10/01/2006, 2:09 PM
England and the Swiss.